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00:00 Intro
04:47 Superman: Legacy Gets Its Superman & Lois Lane
19:28 Evan Peters Joins Tron 3
23:13 Recapping What Made The Blockbuster Movie in 2023 – QuantuMania & Creed III
32:13 Shazam: Fury of the Gods & John Wick 4
45:38 Dungeons & Dragons & Mario
53:22 Guardians 3 & Fast X
01:07:25 The Little Mermaid & Across The Spider-Verse
01:15:14 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts & Elementals
01:23:35 The Flash
01:36:19 Forecasting the rest of 2023 with Barbie-Heimer Looming
01:48:10 Signing Off & Topic For Next Week (Indiana Jones & The Dial of Destiny Recap & Discussion)
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00:00 Intro
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19:28 Evan Peters Joins Tron 3
23:13 Recapping What Made The Blockbuster Movie in 2023 – QuantuMania & Creed III
32:13 Shazam: Fury of the Gods & John Wick 4
45:38 Dungeons & Dragons & Mario
53:22 Guardians 3 & Fast X
01:07:25 The Little Mermaid & Across The Spider-Verse
01:15:14 Transformers: Rise of the Beasts & Elementals
01:23:35 The Flash
01:36:19 Forecasting the rest of 2023 with Barbie-Heimer Looming
01:48:10 Signing Off & Topic For Next Week (Indiana Jones & The Dial of Destiny Recap & Discussion)
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Speaker 2:Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Project Infinite Podcast. The podcast covered the infinite, the ever-expanding multiverse of fandom, from movies, comics, tv shows, video games. We've got you covered. I'm Rob. I'm here, as always, with Kort. How's it going, man? It's going great man.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to say shout out. It's a very special birthday today In the house. It was Toby McGuire's birthday yesterday. Shout out to the goat. That's why you're I'm kidding, it's Rob's birthday. Shout out. He's been doing this forever And he's just better. He's the best. He's the goat. The guy with the quips, the guy that hates the flash, he's him. And I was right. Every day, all day, he's him.
Speaker 1:And that's actually what we're going to talk about today, which is funny enough. We were going to talk about the summer blockbuster And we're going to talk about some box office returns from the I would say about the first half of the summer, if you want to do April, may, june, and now we're about to go into July and August. So we're a little over halfway through. You know this landscape of just movie goodness that we've got. You know as much as we critique, we go in, we look at all these things. I think the best thing about all this is that we have these movies to actually look at, critique, talk about, have fun with. So you know, you get your let downs, you get your surprises, but at the end of the day we get to talk about it, which is great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely. Just I mean, Is that your birthday?
Speaker 1:present Is you get to talk about the flash and how, even more, you didn't like it.
Speaker 2:Maybe, yeah, and I have numbers to back it up. I mean, yeah, i mean the cool thing, the weird thing I don't know if it's cool or weird or both about kind of all these movies that have come out. There's these kind of interesting stories behind them and why they either worked, why they didn't. Sometimes movies that didn't work made money and sometimes movies that worked didn't make money, which is, you know, that's kind of where we're at now in 2023. Like, it's kind of becoming harder and harder to predict what's going to succeed at the box office, what's going to succeed critically. When you think you got the formula figured out, you don't.
Speaker 2:There might be a couple of exceptions on this list. I think Mario is probably a huge exception. I think that was a movie that everyone probably thought was going to be humongous and was. And then you have a movie like The Flash, which people thought was going to be huge and wasn't, clearly as well as there's a few other movies on that list. And then there's movies that I think the perception is that they didn't wear or wear anything and then turned out to be huge. I think Guardians is the perfect example of that. I think it's quietly made about $800 million.
Speaker 1:And it's funny that you say that about a Marvel movie, because you say this three years ago. That's not the case. It's just, it's sure fired that if it doesn't make that money, there's a problem. The one I really look at for the summer you know just the year because it was a little bit before the summertime it was John Wick.
Speaker 1:I know John Wick really outperformed what I thought it was going to do. I thought John Wick was going to do a round where you know where The Flash is sitting right now. John Wick, definitely. I think it's double what The Flash has right now, which is really saying something. And obviously the run was like it has a full run that movie did. The Flash has only been out for about to be two weeks, so nothing insane, but it is a telltale that you know this idea that these superhero movies need to be day ones. You know, i said it last week where it feels like the beginning of the end or just, you know, the end of what we knew from before and what we were kind of conditioned over the last, like 10 to 15 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So we're going to dive into all that stuff, because I think there's a lot of interesting things to be had as far as what these movies were able to do or not do, versus what's coming up and how these patterns or trends that we can identify are going to apply to these movies These movies that are coming up, because we do have a few more you know, comic book movies coming out.
Speaker 2:We have a few more kind of big blockbuster movies, especially when you're talking about Barbie and Oppenheimer, obviously, And Mission Impossible. You have an Indiana Jones movie coming out this week which I feel like there's a lot of question marks about that.
Speaker 1:I do have some thoughts on why there's question marks, though I have a pretty definitive thought on why?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean just an interesting conversation to be had that we're going to have, but before that we have a little bit of news, starting with the big one. The big one, yeah. So we finally, after weeks and weeks of speculation, have a Superman and Lois cast for the Superman Legacy movie, directed by James Gunn. It's going to be written by James Gunn, probably going to be directed by James Gunn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to be directed.
Speaker 2:So yeah, david Cornswet and Rachel Brosnan have been casted. These two were part of the rumor mill sometime ago And now it's official by James Gunn himself has has confirmed this, and there it is, we have. We have a new Superman and Lois Lane.
Speaker 1:I'm all the way in, i'm in And I was actually more. It's funny, like, obviously we could just talk about David Cornswet. You can go look at some of his clips. Obviously, when somebody gets cast, their clips start flying.
Speaker 1:This is probably one of the best received castings we've had in a like in a while of, like you know somebody on, like the echelon, because, like you know, you get your midteres, superheroes and characters that get cast And, like you know, people are like this is great, this is perfect casting. But like when it's like Batman, superman, spider-man, like those like top, top tier. This is why this fantastic forecasting is so, like you know, coveted right now, like it is so tough for everybody to be on board And like the perception of what I've seen is, like you know, it feels to me like near near everybody's in good graces right now. Everybody's on board and I I gotta agree. I mean he, just he has this balance.
Speaker 1:I think in between, like somewhere. It's somewhere in between where Cavals Superman and Grieve Superman sit, which is a great place to live. That's kind of where Tyler Heckling Superman lives on the CW, which just had their finale, which I've been hearing nothing but great things about, but he's just, you know not, i'm not going to overcomplicate, he's just got it. If you know what I mean, he's just he's got the thing that you need to play Superman Is the thing being 6-4? We don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah it. I think it's a good casting choice. I think what this is going to be able to do, i think I think we're going to get something different out of Superman this time around that we got the past few iterations, i think. Right now, as far as the direction that they could go with this, i think I honestly think the Tyler Heckling kind of portrayal is is kind of where they want to walk, like I think they I think that show nails what the character of Superman is and the character of Clark Kent, which I think kind of I think the Caval run did a good job of kind of showing what Superman does, but not particularly like a lot of Clark Kent stuff. Yep, i agree, which makes sense because I won't say I'll say this I did actually quite like what he did with Clark Kent as a, you know, as an ascension to Superman and kind of like the Ideologies beyond it. But, like you know, there is something endearing about Christopher Reeves and then later portrayed by Brandon Ralph.
Speaker 1:You know all the way up into the arrow versus, you know, every day, man like that we haven't. That we didn't get from from Henry Caval, we didn't get that at all. We just got who. We got all the way up to the end of Man of Steel and then you just got beats. But all those beats were overshadowed by the fact that this was a Batman vs Superman movie and any of his reporting scenes like we've never gotten, like you don't even get that out of Superman and Lois, obviously, because first episode spoiler alert he gets fired in the first episode, so he's no longer that reporter.
Speaker 1:But what Tyler Heckelton captures so well is being, you know, this next evolution in his life and that's being a dad and, like you know, sharing those values that he got from Jor-El and from Jonathan Kent. So where this you know new version of Superman will lie is kind of you know this, like James Gunn said, this cub reporter. That's kind of like a running gun. That's, like you know, trying to balance being an alien and being, you know, just a regular god. And you know hindsight's 2020, because you know that saying that James Gunn talks about, like you know, this whole phase is called gods and monsters. Like you know, what DC comics have really captured and been about since the 30s is it's just God's trying to be men, everyday men and like nobody's above. So and I think David Corrin so it's gonna get a really embody that and I think he's. I think that's a great casting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then Rachel Brazzahan also great casting. I mean she is obviously well known, most well known for Marvel's Mrs Maisel, which she's spectacular in, she's in House of Cards, she's in Manhattan, so she has a lot of really great television stuff to her name, things that were she's kind of like the focus of things, And I think Lois Lane is a character that definitely needs some bolstering. On film, i think obviously the TV show does a great job with her because I mean she's in the title, so she's basically a co main character alongside Clark, and then, you know, in the movies I feel like she's kind of kind of taken a backseat.
Speaker 1:I feel like there was bones of something with Amy Adams but they never quite got there with her, and again I mean both with Henry Cavill and Amy Adams, like it was neither of their faults because they only got the one Superman focus movie and then everything else was was just as like stuff right where, like you couldn't explore that, yeah, and also everything that Amy Adams was shrouded by after you know, when the, when the Shatter Cut was coming out, was like what would have been, and like this whole second part of the movie or part two movie where she was supposed to be murdered And then also she was supposed to be in love with Batman, like all that's not Lois Lane, like all those things just have no retention for anybody that's, you know, familiar with Lois Lane in the comics. Like I think we said it when we watch Guardians 3 and I've known it. Like this idea that James Gunn somehow, miraculously, even after you know, his praise of the flash movie, like he's the head of the studio why would he not say that about the movie? like this whole idea that he's not going to be able to pull this off. I'll, just I'm not, i'm not going to believe it until I see it and I just genuinely don't think I'm going to see it, that this movie doesn't work. And then obviously your comic runs to pull it from, if you're pulling from all star Superman, like I think he knows what he's doing, and I think we're about to see something truthfully special now, going a little deeper into what we know the villain of this movie is going to be Lex Luthor who is going to team up with the authority, and you know what I'm going to call it right now and I want you to save this clip once I get it right.
Speaker 1:Once the authority movie comes out, everybody's going to be in love with the authority. I'm calling it right now that, like everybody's like, oh, you shouldn't start with the authority. I also am not a huge fan of them starting with the authority. I think you should start with Superman and then grow that. People are going to just, you know, be over the moon about the authority and everybody's going to claim they've been authority fans for for 20 years. You can clip this right now that I'm calling it, but, yes, so it's going to be Lux Luthor who's going to kind of use the authority. The other thing that we know is this universe is already going to have super powered people in it and superheroes, and he's going to be like you know. Obviously he's going to turn into the big one out of all of them. So how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:I think it's a good idea. I think it's kind of a just a nice. I think it's like a paradigm shift, like that's kind of how the movie could potentially present it, like you have all these other super powered beings or other heroes, and then he shows up and then like the paradigm shifts. You know what I mean. So I think that's a that's a really interesting idea to run with it's. You know, i'm I'm all for doing something different than what we've seen before, and I think that's where a lot of you know origin stories of characters that we've seen before gets bogged down by just retreading familiar ground yeah, like Man of Steel was Man of Steel and then, you know, obviously the first act of Batman vs Superman was very much.
Speaker 1:He was the first one, even though Wonder Woman was there and everybody in the Suicide Squad that had powers before, but he was the first one, alright, and the flash was all. Spoiler alert for the flash. The flash was also there the same day that Superman showed up. Who knows man, who knows, but I am on the fence about it. I do like this idea of like an ascension of him, you know, kind of rising to power but not having to be like hit, conversely with Batman just being angry from Batman, like I don't want that, like I want it to be, like you know, it's this got, it's this good, nice, wholesome, endearing person, kind of you know, gets to you know, just a race into the sun, you know. So I'm genuinely think that's going to happen.
Speaker 1:I think you said we're going to get Jimmy Olsen. We don't know who's playing playing him yet obviously we're probably going to get a new Perry White, like if you're a fan of Superman comics from like day one, or like you know Superman as a character, like I think this is going to embody like the best aspects of that character. So, yeah, i'm all the way. I'm all the way in on this. You can also clip this now. Glenn Powell is going to play Green Lantern. I'm calling it right now because Glenn Powell is like I don't know if they worked together before, but Glenn Powell, like immediately retweet. He said great to see this man and he said something he's playing Green Lantern.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to manifest it now because there's not one other person in Hollywood that I think would embody how Jordan better than Glenn Powell at the moment great to see this. I'll be Green Lantern soon, yeah that's exactly what he should have said. Anybody else you want to see in this universe, specifically for Superman, i'd love to see them take a crack at brain.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think that would be the the logical.
Speaker 1:See what I did there. I think that would be the absolute logical choice for a second movie is to do, because we haven't seen it. And obviously the other, the other piece, other side the coin is you know it's Supergirl, because we already know we're getting super supergirl woman at tomorrow. So I think that also is going to be a pretty, pretty good movie and I also think that they're going to actually interact and like any other live action version of Superman in the film, obviously, obviously the TV show actually did it and did it pretty well, if you ask me to. So what else about this universe? I think the Batman casting was the other question about yesterday, because people were like, well, do we know who Batman is? and I, james Gunn, said they're a million miles away, we don't even know. Now, look, there's a Batman out there already. I'm just saying I'm just saying George Clooney. Nope, nope. I I saw side by side of Pattinson and David. I was like don't look bad, doesn't look bad together. Yeah, i would, i would buy that.
Speaker 2:I would buy that immediately yeah, i think, i think absolutely good work. I just don't know, i just don't think so. I just don't think they're gonna, they're gonna cross that line. I don't think so either.
Speaker 1:I think they're gonna let Reeves play for as long as he wants to, basically just make him. He's how. No one did it like nobody. And you know what we learned and you can actually find the clip in our flash episode. We were correct that they did ask Christian Bale. Apparently a lot of times they asked Christian Bale to be that you know, the Bruce Wayne that gets out of the car at the end of the flash and he said absolutely not, you bloody Americans, absolutely not. He's my best friend. Christopher Nolan will lose it if we do this he'll drop a nuke on it.
Speaker 2:He has one, we know it yeah, yeah, which we both figured was the case. Yeah, i mean, the Clooney thing just felt so out of left field.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah and, like you know, obviously Clooney's not ever playing Batman again, unless they do some multiversal stuff years down the line, i look, despite the bit controversial. I don't think Clooney would be the worst Batman beyond. Though, if they decide to do that and as long as he doesn't have to suit up and just all he's got to do is just be like old man, billionaire playboy that trains Terry like I would buy that. Yeah, i'm absolutely. Another thing we learned from the flash movie was that that if this flash movie was successful, that Keaton was gonna get his own Batman beyond movie. Well, nope, that's not happening. You know who probably would have played that Terry McGinnis? right, probably would have been Dylan O'Brien and just get the whatever was that movie, american assassin that they did? just get that duo back together.
Speaker 2:I thought about that, tom Holland no no, yeah, so any other thoughts on this?
Speaker 1:Superman thing no, i mean the old. I say no and then I say yes. But though I guess the last last thing is should this be the start of the DCU? it? should it be blue beetle, or should it be this?
Speaker 2:it should probably be this I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't have like a shadow of doubt. It should be this.
Speaker 2:I I personally think it's a bit of a mistake to have blue beetle and I'm not even married to the idea that they're even going to go through that idea. That would be the yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's just it's gonna be box office which, if blue beetle doesn't report, perform like we're gonna talk about in a little bit, i genuinely don't. I it would be confusing. I think it would just be a mistake if you say this is the first character, like why just not start completely friendly, like I don't even love the idea that you know Amanda Wallace, viola Davis, is Amanda Wallace sticking around. I don't love, i don't. I really don't like the fact that peacemakers still like just give us a peacemaker season to, but you just put it in, put in the DC, like nobody's gonna care.
Speaker 2:People love that show and honestly, to be honest, like and we're probably gonna talk about this when we dive a little bit more into this stuff like I don't think general audiences care now, they don't.
Speaker 1:They don't care and in you know, it's been a real eye opener this summer because I feel like I've been so laser focused about like what the movie yeah yeah, and this has been, you know, ever since we started this 101 episodes ago.
Speaker 1:But now and you know we touched on it in this episode, really going to dive into it, the audience is what you make these movies for. So it is an interesting conversation that we're about to have about. You know what it's us versus the general audience, like who, who's the us? who's the general audience? who are we making these movies for? but how do you consume these movies?
Speaker 2:so I think that movies that made the most money out of this list are the ones that walked out line the best.
Speaker 1:I think that's more like John Wick did that really well. I think Cree three does that pretty, pretty exceptionally. Mario Mario did that and they did it differently. They weren't the same version of those of that of that ideal, but they all do it. They all know how to walk that line of you know understanding who the fan is understanding. We need to market this thing to everybody. It can't just be the one person like all those things are understood.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and then the only other bit of news I have is Evan Peters is in Tron three. But you would share it, let up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll see what that Tron movies like. I mean Tron, tron Legacy is in my top three guilty pleasure. This movie is a 15 out of 10. Even I know it's not 15 out of 10. It does I love. Those are the. Those are sometimes my, those are my favorite movies. Sometimes the ones I know are like, yeah, but like I'll defend that movie till the end of the earth. I love that movie so much.
Speaker 1:I watched that movie at a four. I was well 2010, so I was 11 or 12 when that movie came out. So, yeah, i just I vividly remember watching that movie for the first time. I rented it on DVD 48 hours, great experience. And yeah, i watched it like three times in like two days, couldn't get enough of it. So Evan Peters is the villain. I believe this movie classic Evan Peters, classic Evan Peters. So we'll see. I mean it's. You know, one thing that I like to talk about is your movies only as great as your crew, your cast and your crew. So and I'm looking more at the crew side So like, do we? I don't do even know who's directing this movie yet I don't even think we do.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:And we really need you know what you should do for the wait times. You should just play the theme song when we do the way Keep running. What does that?
Speaker 2:name sound familiar Because he directed Maleficent. He directed the last Pirates of the Caribbean movie, disney Guy. Disney Guy.
Speaker 1:Okay, yep.
Speaker 2:So to make of that, will you?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, yeah I. It's weird, i literally didn't know not to take too much time, but I literally just had a conversation about this, about the, about what Disney was doing, like when Disney I can't remember what year it started, but it was like the mid 2000s. Like when the when the Nadia movies were coming out, up until like mid 2000 to mid 2010s Like Disney was cooking in their live action department for a little bit non, non Marvel and non Star Wars. They were doing a pretty good job. So, yeah, we'll, we'll see how that movie looks. And you know, just from the director, i mean, who directed the first one, joe Kazinsky, who now is, you know, probably going to be a household name of directors, in my opinion, in the next couple years of his life. So, yeah, it's all about your personnel. So that's once you know. The cast gets a little bit more round out. I know a couple other things that we'll see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we'll see. And then I mean, obviously you never know what you're going to get with Jared Leto.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, that's my other concern. He was scaling a building, the other day. So that's something.
Speaker 2:He's a real wild card, yeah, but not like a Ezra Miller wild card. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because like he's just kind of a wacko. Yeah, which is fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as long as you don't hurt yourself or anybody else, then like be you, you know. Yeah, so we'll see. Like it Well, jared Leto is still an Oscar winning actor at the end of the day. Like you keep telling yourself that he won an Oscar. I know I didn't make him do Morbius.
Speaker 2:That wasn't me. That's being like. You know. Andre Aguadala is technically the finals, come on.
Speaker 1:Why did Andre Aguadala get a random shot? It's the best reference I can pull from. Oh no, what happens when Andre Aguadala retires and the aliens are going to come down? This is bad. This is very bad, yeah.
Speaker 2:So we'll see. Like I said, you never know what you're going to get from Jared Leto. You never, you never know. You can get a Joker, or you could get a Blade Runner. You know, you don't know, yeah. So let's dive into some, into some numbers, into some movies and some numbers. Yeah, just. I mean, you've heard us talk about every movie on this list pretty much except for elementals. I think it's the only one we have and the little mermaid.
Speaker 1:I never saw.
Speaker 2:Maybe you can expand our animated bag a bit, but I think we've talked about all of these movies, other movies, at some point, so I guess we're just going to do this in release order. That's probably the best way to do this. Sure, so this kind of all started back in March, yes, ish, with John Wick.
Speaker 1:No, it actually started in February.
Speaker 2:Oh, february. Yeah, I have these out of order.
Speaker 1:Yeah So.
Speaker 2:February. So Ant-Man and the Lost Quantum, There's this little movie called Ant-Man.
Speaker 1:See what I did there.
Speaker 2:It was the most anticipated movie of the year.
Speaker 1:It was And it was, and you know, guilty as charged too. It was like I was also saying like this might be the Marvel movie of the like, even more than Guardians. I think I was looking forward to this movie more than Guardians, but then but then we, but then we.
Speaker 1:Then we started like it was weird with this movie And I think I think it was two weeks out. Specifically, you can find the episode that was two weeks out or it was ever. It might have been the week before, because I know the Super Bowl had and I was like I'm getting a bit concerned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, It was. it was kind of like an aha moment of like is this movie going to work?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because I was like, because you know, the legend of Jonathan Majors was quickly becoming really, really big And I was like it was the con, the converse. I was like, is Paul Rudd going to be able to go against this? Like, is this going to? And I also it was a visual thing. I was like wait a minute, did my ears deceive me by listening to the melodic melodies of Yellow Brick Road, or does this movie not look amazing either? And then it got confirmed when we watched the movie that it doesn't look great.
Speaker 2:And then, like just the suspicions about the story were kind of confirmed of like, how is this going to work? How are we going to, how are we going to make Kang an adversary for Ant-Man? And you know, we talked about it like it really it really should have been the best. The best adversarial relationship in that movie was Janet, and Kang was who this movie probably should have been about, or it should have been MoDoc and Ant-Man.
Speaker 1:And then, lo and Behold, who walks out at the end of this movie, the most unkillable of big beds. And then it's like, you know, you take this Avenger, that's there. and it's like, oh, actually crap, because like I just struggled against MoDoc, like Darren Cross, who I've already beaten, like how am I ever supposed to beat Kang the Conqueror? That would have really paid off. that ending of that movie too, that ending of that movie would have really like where he's, like freaking out in the least, like did I just doom the entire multiverse? But I digress, we've already talked about this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're dead. And then the box office return was 476 million, which is low for Marvel standards, but it's not the end of the world, because we're going to get to the end of the world later when we talk about the Flash. This puts it on par with Eternals. It's in the same realm of Eternals. It's in the same realm as Chongqing Legend of the Ten Rings, which I thought would have made more money. That came out in 2022.
Speaker 1:2020 as well, And this is off a $200 million budget for Ant-Man, And you know, one of the things that we talked about specifically for this movie after we saw it was you know where is all this money going? And there is a movie in here where I'm like way less money to make, but the return is way much more incredible. And I think that now we're in the Sarah for Marvel, where the actors were getting so much money, where the actual production value really started to plummet and it was noticeable.
Speaker 2:And it's fine if you want to pay these actors, but do something with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2:If we're going to double it.
Speaker 1:Specifically, our big one was a bit, and you know I do think that was a little bit responsive to you know, a real world. Eventually Lily and you know her ideals on some things that you know a lot of people did not agree with gets diminished. But you know, as a character, up until that point she had gotten what shine, like Ant-Man 2, where it still ended up just being Scott pretty much. She never really got that chance to really to like really really play, which is unfortunate. You see Shades obviously in Ant-Man 2, but a movie that kind of just puts her to the side of the side, yeah, and you know, just wasted opportunities. But again, one of the comments I made is like it didn't feel like a real movie, like it just felt like a product that was being given out versus like an actual film that was made.
Speaker 2:So all in all for Ant-Man 400, like I said, 476 million. I guess we can kind of judge this on a positive or a negative scale. Would you say 476 million dollars? Did this movie work or did it?
Speaker 1:not work. It did not work. It did not work because of the hype that was going into this movie. This was supposed to be the first movie of Phase 5 that was supposed to save the quote unquote horrible Phase 4, according to some people, and it's introducing your Thanos Yeah, your Thanos. And you have the best points about why that should never happen. That's not a good idea. That's not how you mark it.
Speaker 2:And I mean obviously everything that followed with Jonathan Majors, is another reason why you don't do this.
Speaker 1:But two weeks later a movie did come out. What a segue actually. Yeah.
Speaker 2:This was in the era of when Jonathan Majors was a good actor and just that, just a good actor. So, yeah, we get Creed 3, march 3rd. So obviously, again another movie that we talked a lot about, that we both quite liked That movie. it was 275 million at the box office, which you know. again, you have to scale these things for what they are 275 million for Creed, i think, is pretty good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on a 75 million dollar budget, so a 200 million dollar return, so not bad at all. Michael B Jordan's directorial debut This is looking at things beyond just box office returns, money, all those things good positives. At the time, jonathan Majors was like, okay, this guy is like this is serious now. This is the best part about Ant-Man is Jonathan Majors The majors And the best part about this movie was Jonathan Majors, so he was two for two personally. So you get this actor that, possibly before he is about to go off into the stratosphere and going to be possibly uncastable to a movie like this, is castable now to play, to play, you know, one of the major, one of the major, you know storage franchises that's been running for for 40 years.
Speaker 1:Obviously, michael B Jordan's directorial debut without Sylvester Stallone And it said a lot. I really love the work he did behind the camera. This was probably the most. I would say Creed II was probably the most personal to the Rocky mythos, but this is the most personal Creed movie that we had gotten up to that point. It shows you, like, what personal storytelling can do in a director that cares about the product as well.
Speaker 2:It's also the most stylized out of the three movies. Sure, we talked about the anime influences, specifically that Michael B Jordan brought to this movie, which I thought were really cool, especially in the third act. So like it went full, basically full anime in the third act, which I think worked, And at the end of the day 275 million, I would say this movie worked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I got to agree. I went to see this movie and you know there was people in the theater, the theater was actually had a pretty decent return And people were talking about this movie. And you know, in the day and age we live in, like for a movie like this to get talked about, like that of like hey did you see this? Like are you going to see that? That's also a scale you can kind of judge on And that's your general audience, like our normal, our regular people. Just are they talking about this movie? Like are they like hey, did you see Cree? Are you going to see Cree?
Speaker 2:I specifically remember people in the theater watching the movie were giving very like this or this Like what was happening in the movie, which is always a good sign that the movie is working, like people are engaged in it, which is also a good thing, and not like false engagement.
Speaker 1:Right, and it's funny. I took my mom to see this movie And Chris Stockman actually made a funny point or a great point about this when he last week on, i think he was reviewing Indiana Jones. He talked about like the general audience, like you can like let's use my mom, for example like just like he did, like she's the general audience, so like somebody like that walking out of the theater like that was engaged. That was an engaging story. That was engaging visually, like auditory, like all those things. And like good for Michael B Jordan. You get your directorial debut and then to return it back with $275 million, that's a win, that's a huge one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i totally agree. And then Jonathan Manger's career fell apart because of things he just can't help himself with and do awful things apparently. And then we go a little bit. We go a week later And that's another kind of thing that we kind of noticed with all these movies is the close proximity by which they all released. Yeah, this is like a year. That's like notably like In some cases things are coming out on the same day. This again, this is a case of that where so you get, you get creed, and then you get a little bit of a break, you get a couple of weeks, and then you get John Wick, john Wick 4.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a movie in between that you forgot, but I forget. that would be Shazam Fury of the Gods that came out on the 17th.
Speaker 2:I didn't have that at the bottom of the list. Yep Had it at the bottom. There it is.
Speaker 1:So again, let's. This is a good list test because this is another superhero movie, so these are the ones that are dominating the box office, but the return for this one was $133 million. Very interesting, very interesting.
Speaker 2:Very interesting.
Speaker 1:And you know we, when we reviewed this, i think we were probably a way more lukewarm than you know. Most of the critical reception was, i think you know I didn't. I didn't hate this movie. I think this movie is better than Black Adam, i think.
Speaker 2:Well, Black Adam, we're going to have to fold into this conversation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are, i didn't really see the DC movies right.
Speaker 2:Because something, something interesting happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something interesting really did happen. But yeah, and you know, kind of the the inverse, like you know, i remember Creed 3 comes out and then, like Jonathan Majors was everywhere And then Zachary Levi kind of was like getting very restless about things and like he just started to act very funny around the time that you're trying to market your movie, like just making angry social media posts and like he was at Comic Con talking to the rock or whatever he was at. He was talking to the rock, like he just seemed very like off, like I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1:Like something was like something was up with Zachary Levi. He's like manic, yeah, he was like, yeah, it's like it just was very off putting. He was and you know what a crazy thing to do for the lead of your movie right before the release of your movie. Like, and you know this is something where you're going to need every, you're going to need every inch of battleground that you can get. Like you know as much as you know it might be a detriment. You know you can't help like your social media, like he was going on social media and just losing it on days on, like it did.
Speaker 1:We were like very confused. Like you know, you have him at these interviews just dialing off into things that don't even have to do with the movie and like one thing I you know I think it's probably the worst for probably David of Sandburg I feel the worst for because you know there was some portions of them I actually I actually quite liked. I do think it kept someone, like you know, the elements from from the first one. I just think this is a. This movie suffered from being in the, in the, in the detritus of the DC. You.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i agree because I mean you. I mean, a good thing about this movie in particular is that the sequel, so the first movie, was 367 million. This movie was a fraction of that, yep, almost almost a little over a third of. And you would think that a movie that did so well in the first one that people would be flocking to see the sequel or the follow up, like you would think it would make at least as much, if not more than than the first one.
Speaker 1:And I think it was a lot of money. Yeah, it was like 125 million dollar budget, which is low for super here, like that's low, that's not, that's not anything to like go over the moon and you know, you know, and it's funny. Comparatively to Ant-Man three, like Shazam two, i think looks like, i think it looks quite a bit better than Ant-Man three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I think you're right about the, about the like the DC kind of stigma, i think. I'm not sure I'm still not. This one kind of confuses me. I'm not sure why, why it bonded as bad as it did.
Speaker 1:I mean, are you not in the? are you not in the wake of of the John Jonathan majors of science? Like I think it's a, i think it's Zachary Levi, just kind of losing it? I think that it's a product of you know, like I said, like it's the, it's the remnants of the DCU, like this is it? and Wasn't that when we knew it was this around the? When we know that that Henry Cavill was done, this is I think this also has to do with this. Yeah, i think that was this because people were like, so what, that all that sort of was. I think around this time. This is when we knew that James Gunn was taking over once this movie was in it's. Like you know, it's marketing like a bad at its marketing stride, also the marketing for this movie. This is probably one of the more notable, like you know, times of not good marketing on this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not really.
Speaker 1:I remember I was it was around the NC double a tournament and like the screen would flash And it would be a lightning bolt she's am fury the gods and like I need will be. Like she's am fury the gods coming out, go watch it. And I'd be like, all right, and again the judge, what is the general audience supposed to do? There's no, there's no hype around this movie. There's no aura around this movie. It's just a thing that's coming out That doesn't have any legs behind it. From a from a studio perspective, yeah, you know, new leadership about a turnover.
Speaker 2:So yeah, like one of those, one of those things that like like, well, it's here, we made it, yep, it's just gotta come out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just gotta come out, Yep.
Speaker 2:And then you know I think another person that was we talked about this when we talked about the movie, But I think actual angel was really hard done by by this movie Because we were like can actually actually actually act.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think you know one of the problems they, they did I mean a retroactive problem of the first one is they cast. Zachary Levi is kind of like the star quote-unquote because he's a shazam, but then, like actual angel, grew up, mm-hmm between the first one and the second one, and they were like we, and then we probably should have just made him She's am, but you couldn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, but then you also could because you did it with, with Mary yeah like she ended up just being yep, her regular self, and then the and Mary Marble, so you probably could have just done it right, but you know, yeah, it's accurately, it's Chuck. You can't, you can't let Chuck around like that Well maybe now maybe they should have cuz wolf yeah, and you know we talked about, we talked about the movie, like the scenes with, actually, angel were good Yeah in the movie for like ten minutes Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not like he's not in this movie. In this movie that was like two hours and ten minutes, i think. Two hours, 15, yeah. But then a week later, and you know, noticing a trend, that you know, these big movies that in a Any other year would have been way more spaced out, or just one after another, john, what chapter 4 comes out.
Speaker 2:And this is a this is a Great movie to talk about this particular.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i got a point after this too, but go ahead, yeah, so Obviously there's.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of things with this movie that are working against it. Yeah, yep of why it shouldn't perform as well as it ended up performing. First of all, it's the fourth movie in a franchise which is bananas. Yeah, the start way. Yep, obviously you know it's. It's also an interesting test case, just in general, because Every it's it's the exact thing that you would have expected from Shazam Mm-hmm, like every subsequent movie, keeps making more money. If, if they keep, if the quality is good, Which, with the John Wick movies, they got, kept, getting, they kept getting better.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna use a different. Like they kept getting tighter and tighter and tight, it felt like the, the truck, that mission and possible kind of went on and then you get to this fourth one and boom 428 million dollars, which is crazy good and This. This is probably at this point in the year, in March, so three months into the year, almost four. This is the best example of word of mouth that I'd heard at this point Also just before we move on to John Wick.
Speaker 2:We, it doesn't need to be said, but as far as like our rating system, shazam, massive, massive Disappointing, but anyway back to back to John Wick.
Speaker 1:Right, like I said, this is the this is the one of the best word of mouth. Like this is to the point where, like It felt like everybody's, like you know, did you see John Wick? Like you need to go see John Wick, and it wasn't just, you know, audience. Now we're getting into more of a critical reception Critically.
Speaker 1:This movie was getting, you know, heralded as one of the best action movies period. Like this was like you know, the action was so tight. And then you get the confirmation in the theater and one thing, narratively, that this movie does Incredibly is understands what the heck it is. They understand that Keanu Reeves isn't some all-time great actor, but he has an all-time great presence. Then they let the action speak for itself. That's exactly what a movie like this should do. This movie looks incredible, which is, you know, visually like something that you want, like all from all these movies that we just talked about. I didn't have it on my bingo card that John Wick was gonna look the best, but it did. Yeah, it had a compelling. It didn't even have the craziest story, but it had a. It had a compelling enough story where it lets the action speak for itself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly I think this. I think this movie, of all the ones that we've talked about so far, even probably more so than Creed, just kind of like you said, the most successful movies on this list are ones that understand the identity and understand the, the, the consumer, what they're trying to appeal to and John Wick, honest to God, just appealed to you could really take anybody to this movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you know, obviously this is a rated R movie. The act, like the action is very like it is on the upper upper echelon of violence. You can't take your kids do it right, but you can take your teenagers to this maybe. Yeah, your friend groups can go to this, like you know it's a good date night.
Speaker 2:This is a good night movie too.
Speaker 1:There are like some endearing moments in this movie. You know what I mean. But, like you said, like this movie does understand exactly what, exactly what it is. This is operating off a hundred million dollar budget and again, like you look at a movie like, and that's pretty high, like a hundred million dollars is high, but look at the return you get back. It's not into the fact that you know there's these actors we have to pay, or there's this universe We have to keep going. It's let's pour all of this money into making this the best possible Movie going experience we can yeah, and I think the return kind of Exemplifies three hundred and twenty five million dollars on your return is something that is.
Speaker 2:That's not yeah for a non Kind of fandom movie. It's just this kind of little action.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I watched. I watched all of them leading up right into the movie and when we went I was like the first one in this one are Extremely different, but not at the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good.
Speaker 2:It's a good, a coherent kind of boom boom, boom, boom, boom boom boom like if you watch all four of these in one shot like You could follow it. Yeah, it feels, it feels the same, but also the subsequent ones kind of take it up a notch and take it up a notch and kind of build This, this franchise is perfect on building upon the last thing, like that's what this franchise I think has done better than a lot of recent franchises It takes the bones of the last one and builds upon it and and build something even better. Right, and I don't know how high that can keep going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I mean you have a sequence, you have two sequences in here, but I mean the, the Devil's Breath sequence is probably gonna like I'm thinking like you know The Michael Mann heat, you know Val Kilmer Shootout scene at the bank, like I think what else terminator to the, the, but the, the truck sequence and I think like, like obviously there's a ton more, but like I'm putting that Devil's Breath sequence in there, Like it's like some of these all-time action sequences.
Speaker 1:So, this movie has a definable sequence in there too, like it's all the bones of being something truly incredible, which it was yeah, yeah and everything, everything.
Speaker 2:This is the case. This is probably the. This is probably the best case on this on this list as far as like everything kind of coming together And working. I mean, obviously this movie's on here that made more money, mm-hmm. But this is probably the example of everything kind of just hitting on all cylinders right as far as needed it.
Speaker 1:It's like Mario probably could have made 750 to or like, let's say, 600 to like 800 if they were on, you know, cruise control, like this movie needed to be this to get there. But again to my point, like that's hundred million dollars was not just put into just This is just normal to give you like this hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2:Was this director and this team's gonna be like alright, well, let's make the greatest thing possible that we can and I think the other good point about about what you said, you know, at the beginning was the sustainability in the word of mouth. I think that's where, ultimately, movies like The Flash and Shazam faltered. Yep is because you get your initial group Yeah, people that it's like us, mm-hmm, i'm gonna go see it day one, night one, and then, if it's no good, it's that it's just gonna flat line after that and that's basically. That's basically what happens Shazam is is. You know, people saw it night one, day one, week one, and then they were like, yeah, i will say first exam, i'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna double down on my statement that it was the fact. I I have to look, but I genuinely I do think it was the time where James gun officially took him and Peter Saffron took over and it was them and like, and then we got announced and then he did that video and I was just like okay, so do we need to see Shazam now because it's over like it's, this is done and then, yeah, so John Wick, obviously monster, monster success, you know it's.
Speaker 2:It's launched Spin-offs, it's launched a potential John Wick 5.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is nuts because, spoiler alert, john Wick dies at the end of chapter 4, which I think was there. I think this was what they thought it. I mean, you get Donnie Yen, which is one of the greatest Eastern like action actors of all time. Like, i think they probably thought this was it. Like you know, they blew up the the continental like this is yeah, it had all like the feeling of like a final chapter in a movie, but you know, success is success.
Speaker 2:Yep Week later we glitter.
Speaker 1:something happened Yeah week later We got Dungeons and Dragons. I actually take back my statement about word of mouth, because Dungeons and Dragon Probably needed the best word of mouth. It's definitely. This one actually might be the most surprising on this list.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 208 million dollars, which doesn't sound like a lot, but you know, i think, for what this movie was and what it was kind of presented as, i think that's that's a pretty fair return. Yeah, return. For the longest time, your joke about this movie, every time we saw a trailer for it, was that it was a pyramid scheme.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah that nobody was. This movie was never coming out. It wasn't like Barbie was gonna an often hyper. We're gonna come out. This trailer is still showing. It's gonna be like you know, we're gonna be watching Secret Wars and this trailer still is gonna be showing, or like, wait a minute. But yeah, i mean this movie's off 150 million dollars for the budget And I will equate that to this movie got delayed multiple times too. So all those things go get incorporated into your budget.
Speaker 1:But this movie does have an uphill battle. I mean, like Dungeons and Dragons is very niche. It's got a very, not small community but it's got a very, like, you know, knit community. So it is a tougher battle to fight. And this is a week off of John Wick, where every and John Wick was performing week after week after That. But then I had just been hearing rumblings that this Dungeons and like you saw it and you're like, wait a minute, this movie is actually pretty good. I quite liked it. I remember my brother saw and he was like and my brother nothing, he's again, he's another general audience and he goes. This Dungeons and Dragons movie was actually kind of freaking good, it was really fun, it did.
Speaker 1:it did a nice job of remember that word fun You just said it did a nice job of This kind of fantasy parody.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, like a fantasy satire, but not like overly done, like the Kingsman did to the spy movie.
Speaker 1:I think is a good time for that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kind of. Yeah It was. It played on a lot of fantasy tropes. It wasn't too heavily reliant on the source material, like it wasn't too like inside baseball, which again we're gonna talk about that when we talk about the flash. You know it had references for people that are familiar with Dungeons and Dragons, but also just told a nice fun, light-hearted story Like this is, and it's just bolstered by two really charismatic performances from.
Speaker 2:Michelle Rodriguez and Chris Pine and Yeah, i think just the movie just worked like I don't think it was bad, i don't think it was the best movie I've ever seen. I thought it was a nice fun, harmless, kind of just springtime, summer time movie.
Speaker 1:You just made my point about the idea of the summer blockbuster And as much as a lot of people probably aren't gonna want to hear it in a couple movies that we're gonna talk about, that Fast X understood that about the summer block. It does not need to be some oscar wing movie. It needs to be loud and dumb and fun, where the general audience can go in there and turn their brains off for a little bit And just have some fun for two hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Dungeons and Dragons. It doesn't have the the John Wick-esque monetary return, but I thought it was fun. I thought it, you know, wasn't terrible. I thought I thought it was worth the price of admission which, at the end of the day, is all you can ask for. I would consider this definitely a success, not a rousing success.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i could John Wick, but it's the underdog success, i would say, of the summer.
Speaker 2:Sure, i would agree with that. And then again a week later, man, this is nuts. But then this, weirdly enough, is the only movie we get for April. And boy did it, did it, did it show, because this is The juggernaut. I guess we can claim that this is the juggernaut title of this movie. Run Mario, the Mario movie. Yep, the, the only movie on this list to crack a billion dollars. What are you?
Speaker 1:talking about, seemingly you made one true loves that same day.
Speaker 2:Well over a billion dollars 1.3. Yeah which doesn't didn't surprise either of us. We knew this movie was gonna be massive.
Speaker 1:This movie only could have made a billion dollars and it would have usurped like half this list, i think, for the 300 million, that at all, or whatever X million.
Speaker 2:We talked about this movie. It's, it's Mario, it's, it's perfect, it's perfectly built to make a billion dollars.
Speaker 1:Charismatic voice cast. It's got a much, a much more line. Yep always cast this until until people saw the movie and they were like oh, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that whole, the whole Chris Pratt then kind of went out. Chris Pratt had Yeah does he? he might have the greatest redemption arc of the, of this whole blockbuster arc. Maybe that's how we should do the categories at the end.
Speaker 2:We should just tailor towards this.
Speaker 1:But, yes, this movie was everything that it needed to be, and then some again Sometimes the best movies and the movies that aren't complicated. They don't need to be overly complicated, they don't need to have this complex plot, they don't need any of those things. They just need to be what they are and understand what they are, and this Mario movie understands it. Illumination understands this. That is a studio too, and that's just. It's a massive win. I talked to. This is the. This is the franchise starter, franchise starters that they could have asked for. Like we are going to get every variation of Mario You can. Like we're gonna get our Mario Kart movie That's gonna mess around with the idea of fast and furious. Like we're gonna get our Luigi movie. Obviously, we're gonna get Donkey Kong. We're gonna get so many movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, out of this. Um yeah and I mean we talked about John would kind of being like for everybody with that radar copy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right This is the actual for it. And you know, let's talk about the audience, like for the kids. Yeah, there was, you know it was. I Like actually it was really nice to see like there was this guy and he had his like two kids with him And he had a Mario shirt on and his kids, like you know this franchise that he probably grew up with now His kids are gonna grow up with like that's a great franchise right there. That's the test of it too. So, yeah, really awesome. Which which Mario you think he grew up with? you think it was the, it was the John Leguzama one. I think everybody grew up with that one Actually. But, yeah, just great returns. We don't even need to talk about budget because when you make 1.1 billion, dollars, who cares It's?
Speaker 2:yeah, i mean, this movie was an absolute monster, yeah, which, again, we weren't surprised. Yeah, but even still, like it, just it, just it. You couldn't have executed it any better, like this is it was, probably is, the most well executed movie as far as marketing release 100 knowing your audience what they have the premiere, i know they, i know they had a.
Speaker 1:didn't they have a Tokyo premiere?
Speaker 2:as well, and it was like Yeah, i mean obviously overseas.
Speaker 1:Oh well, that's, and there's a movie in here That's we're gonna talk about for the overseas battle, but yeah it's just the perfect storm, like it.
Speaker 2:like as soon as like they announced this movie and they were like it's gonna be Mario and it's gonna be animated, it's gonna be like everything's gonna look classic Mario, i was like, oh yeah, this movie's gonna make a million dollars.
Speaker 2:I can't not, it's these, he's them. He's the singular, most recognizable Animated character outside of Mickey Mouse. That's not even. That's not even a hyperbole, no, that's. That's. That's who Mario is. He's been, he's been a staple of, of Iconic iconography for your for decades. Yeah, he's the most recognizable video game character of all time. It's not Joe.
Speaker 1:Miller, you are treading some mighty thin ice.
Speaker 2:Joe Miller animated movie now talking. So yeah, after the Mario juggernaut just demolished, i think it's hilarious that, like everyone was just like Joe Miller v Golf Club Don of Abbey's just the name saw this release date and they were. They saw April 5th and they're like nope, Yep.
Speaker 1:We're staying out of.
Speaker 2:It's like Kobe calling I saw in his prime That's staying out of Mario's way because we go all the way to May 5th with the next installment of the MCU one Ranger.
Speaker 1:Nope, that's not. That's gonna be my, my, my bit for today's. I'm gonna say the wrong movie every time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the second MCU movie of the year And in a series of three, because obviously the Marvel's is coming out later this year. Guardians of the Galaxy, volume three, james Gunn swan song in the Marvel cinematic universe. This movie again. This movie, this movie kind of restored like the Marvel status quo, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:This is that's actually the most important point about this movie Is that it did restore some faith back in Marvel that they could still do this.
Speaker 2:This was a a a flippant 828 million dollars, which like people were like this movie might not make any money.
Speaker 1:This is low. I'm like I want to see your movie make 800 million.
Speaker 2:I want to see your movie make $1,000 and I mean, if anything, this list that we're going down shows you how difficult it is to crack that that Probably like over five Yep mark, like I would say. five is like the mark of like when you know you've kind of made Like a thing.
Speaker 1:500 million is like a sequel inbound for some movies. If you make 500 million, yeah, if you make 300 million, it's like wow, we really did a thing on the movie. But, like you know, budgets have inflated so much, you know, since this Marvel crazes started. So, yeah, $828 million.
Speaker 2:Regarding this three. Again, another movie that was bolstered, obviously, by great word of mouth, a great initial trailer, i think got people, got the ball rolling for this.
Speaker 1:Well, the Super Bowl is actually a good litmus test too, because I remember the flash trailer and that trailer dropped And we're like we watched the flash trailer like that's a trailer, and then we watched the Guardians trailer like wait, we forgot we actually forgot that this movie was probably gonna be incredible, and this movie also.
Speaker 2:What I think helped this movie a ton and it goes back to the first one is how Insulated it is from everything else in Marvel, because this movie is immune to The Ant-Man thing. It's immune from every aspect. Yeah, it's immune to the Thorlum I mean Thorlum and Thunder still made money, even though it's not. It wasn't, obviously wasn't the best, but it was it. Guardians is lived in that perfect space where it was immune to everything else. Like you, couldn't apply the criticisms to everything else to Guardians, because it was insulated from everything else.
Speaker 1:It was its own, true standalone thing and look inside the movie to, like you know your point of view, characters rocket and, like you know, talking raccoon, sure, but like Probably one of the most relatable characters out of any of these movies on this list that you're gonna find in there was.
Speaker 1:Rocket of all people, yeah, and that's, that's really saying something. But just how endearing this movie was is just it's something, and it this movie was Something, something else. I mean the out of the theater reaction of mugs. Everybody was just this wow. And like you know that opening night also had a buzz that I had and I saw and I told you when We were walking out, like I hadn't felt that in, like it had felt, like years I hadn't felt that walking out of a Marvel movie, yep, yeah, exactly That's exactly it.
Speaker 2:like I said it, it restored that kind of like Marvel status quo, like, like you know, it's kind of Marvel's in this perfect place where, like, they can just casually put out an 800 million dollar movie, mm-hmm. I mean, just that's basically what this was there. Well, here it is like yeah.
Speaker 1:But again, you know as much as I talk about the small budgets and you need to use every penny, like these big budget movies. Have a thing where it's like you need to. Now you need to perform, you need to, and you know, again, this is a great example of taking your budget and actually using it. You use that 250 million Yep shoot, practically shoot on locations, and you know one thing I love about this cast is they know what they're making and they they're all in love with these characters and Wanted to see the proper send-off. And that's the most important thing over money, over anything, is what type of story are you telling? That's what really matters, and Guardians, in my opinion over this whole summer, understands that and it's number one in that category.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I mean all these Like you going back to that point, like the actors have all kind of come out and said like I'm not really interested in pursuing anything else. Yep, i mean David's thesis, probably the loudest voice, yeah, in that regard, saying like he has no.
Speaker 1:Well he's a serious actor. He's a character actor. Now, yeah, it's character actor. David act, he acts. I mean he's gonna get some play in Dune and then I forget what else he said. I am not gonna be surprised if Amazon gives him a call for Kratos. I will not be surprised.
Speaker 2:I've said that from the beginning. I think he can. He would be able to brilliantly played both versions of He plays that angry, vicious, god-killing Kratos or the later Norse, nor storyline the reserved Kratos. He could play both of those roles I gave.
Speaker 1:I gave Amazon the blueprint. So if you guys give me a call to do this for you guys, i got you. But you do it like how they did arrow season, the arrow and you do the. You start from 2018. God of War, you get, you start with Atreus, but you just operate your whole. Whatever you want the theme of your show to be, you operate those through flashbacks And you saw all the Greek stuff through flashbacks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would play a hundred percent, a hundred percent agreed. But yeah, i mean Guardians again. We were like our movies, our movies back.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Between this and Mario, it was like Almost two billion dollars worth of worth of profit for movies and you're like this is here we go, like this is we're gonna take off. And yeah, i mean Guardians, obviously a rousing success. They restored a lot of some. I mean we talked about it like there was a lot of not pressure on this movie, but like like I don't think James Gunn necessarily felt like the pressure to save the MCU with this movie, but There was. There was kind of like a thing like hey, and you know This is a refrain you've kind of used over the last few weeks of like like mediocrity is no longer acceptable.
Speaker 1:And James and James Gunn said that after I.
Speaker 1:So I told James Gunn what to say and he said it to everybody and he's Getting the credit, but like the day and age of, like you know, these superhero movies being able to walk in here, or like your Star Wars movies or DC Like the days of them just getting to like produce something like Ant-Man 3R. I think they're gonna start to come to an and that's what I said about like the new DCU, and then I said this about You know the fantastic form once we get out of the secret, secret wars. I think they're gonna try to actually make the cinema. You know what I mean. Like that's funny as it sounds. Like I think they're actually going like Hey, we need to probably get directors like your Joe Kaczynski's, like your Chats to Helski's. Like we need to get these people to work on Our movies, like your James Gunn's in 2014, and like we need to maybe just let them do what they want to do.
Speaker 1:It might be a little bit easier on us. Let them cook and like Practical is huge. I think, like, again, the day and age of just these visual escapes are cut. Unless you're James Cameron, it's gonna be tough. So, the better practically you can get, the better caliber of actor that you get, which you know These movies a hundred percent have, like, i think, one. Like they calculated the amount of Oscars that, like the MCU, has had and It's like it's in the hundreds or something.
Speaker 2:But yeah.
Speaker 1:It will. Two weeks later, this little movie comes out. I'm kidding, oh. Bad, fast sex what a picture, what a pet. Even Martin Scorsese would be proud. You want to talk?
Speaker 2:about just Getting it, yep.
Speaker 1:Remember you that? so Rob does the funniest thing in the theater. Well, like something like ironically is happening. You'll just look at me. He'll be like What's going on? And that was that Rome sequence Doesn't blow up the Vatican like oh, okay, this is what this is gonna be.
Speaker 2:All right, yeah, i mean, you know, i think the best thing about this movie is, like every movie, like you look at it Like a, like a, like a writing assignment, like what's your, what's your thesis statement And fast-ex, i think, delivered their thesis statement the best, sure, because, like they were, like here's what we're giving you, yep, and we know what we're giving you and you're gonna like it.
Speaker 1:You're not, and they've had that mentality since eight like Seven was the last and obviously seven had a had a kind of cloud, like a very somber cloud over it And still delivered. These movies make a ton of money and, like you know, bringing in Jason Momoa like just sees this movie.
Speaker 2:These movies are demolished crazy, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, this movie is just understanding of itself. It's understanding of you know, the, the actor centric that you have. Like. My favorite idea and I genuinely still think it's true is like Vin Diesel is the make-a-wish kid on this set and like they're like He's just going crazy doing this and everybody's like good, good job. Like go do whatever you want. Today's all about you and I just hope he keeps making movies like it's so stupid, i don't care what anybody says. It's so dumb, it's so loud, it's so stupid, it's crazy, but it just works. Like I love. Like it's bulletproof, like he is. How much time we got four minutes boom punch. Like who cares?
Speaker 1:The only miss they had is they should have had Alan rich in and Jason Momoa in a relationship in that movie. That would have played. There's still time. There's still time. We got this is the oh no. What if they kill it? What if? what if the rock kills Alan rich in at the end of the fast 11? Oh, the warpath that he, oh, he's gonna be like Thanos and endgame. Where did that bring you back to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the other part of this. Is they got the rock back?
Speaker 1:Which is like It's the butterfly effect, and I guess a movie that came out of Jude second definitely does deal with the butterfly effect. It's something because it this all stems back from again, this whole, the whole idea, this whole episode of, like the box office return of black Adam and the credit and the reception of black Adam, all of that turned into him coming back to Vendee's and be like you know what. Oh, i still have my theory, though, that he, that Vendee's will made him do black Adam and made him get Henry Cavill back, so that the franchise would fail, so that would bring the rock back and also bring Henry Cavill.
Speaker 2:But also, as it relates to black Adam, we can rewind a bit, did it?
Speaker 1:fail, mmm for fast and furious.
Speaker 2:No, it's definitely succeeded, but even in comparison to the other DC movies.
Speaker 1:Oh, it made money. I just think it's the rock that made that movie, the money which you come for the rock on the on that movie, but you stay for the Justice Society, which makes him A monster box office star.
Speaker 2:That's never been in question. That he can, just through the sheer force of his charisma.
Speaker 1:Well, he did not do that for Fast Five, was that not the thing that he did? That was the whole point of Fast Five is like the rocks in this franchise now, like we're back.
Speaker 2:Is there another person that's like this On planet?
Speaker 1:Earth? Yeah, probably not That, like he can't really act Again. That's the whole idea of the general audience. If I go to somebody and I ask them, i don't know, give me an actor that was in one of these movies that we've talked about.
Speaker 2:Zoe.
Speaker 1:Saldana. Okay, so let's take Zoe Saldana right, put her against the rock. Which one's getting more people?
Speaker 2:The rock, give me another actor, it doesn't matter, i can give you out all of them. Exactly My point. Michael B Jordan might be the closest.
Speaker 1:Out of that list Maybe three years ago? Yeah, yeah, i just there's nobody else on this list of, like you know, i will spoil. one of the box office draw award goes to goes to the rock, like this guy will get. but, and again, what happens if he's in Shazam Fury the gods? It probably makes way more money.
Speaker 2:Way more money, But you know what it is. So here's the thing about the rock right. Like he's not the best actor in the world, but he's he might be the best promoter. Like it's when he's dumb when he's in.
Speaker 1:He's in. This guy took over Times Square to promote black at like. Yeah, once he's in.
Speaker 2:He's giving you all of his marketing power.
Speaker 1:His, his career, and you know I forget who I talked to. Michael B Jordan was when we talked about it. Like you know, all this acting that Michael B Jordan had done from the wire probably led him to be a director in his life. Like he needed that as a vessel to get to this point. Like the rock's true purpose might not be acting. It might be like producing Yeah, he might be like a studio head that like really just changes the he already has as an actor. Like what happens when this guy just focuses on producing, like the power that he has is immeasurable.
Speaker 2:It feels like I mean yeah, well, yeah, i mean, black Adam is the perfect case for that. Like, black Adam made three hundred and forty million dollars when they had no business making that no business, and it's just because of him.
Speaker 1:Yep, it's because of him, he, he, he may or may not have ten was bigger at the movie theater, like the ten was noticeably better than bigger than all the other. That doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1:He just out and out was like I got Henry Cavill back which is nuts, and then the internet lost it, like people were going to see the movie for the post-credits scene at that point. Yeah, so he was like you're welcome. Yeah, henry Cavill is going to be in this fast and furious franchise, isn't he? Oh, that'd be great. Well, we already. We already know what we want. He's got to play one of the. He's got to play.
Speaker 1:He's got to know he needs to specifically be the baby shop brother. He needs to be the by far youngest, which would be just hilarious because he's much bigger than them.
Speaker 2:So, at the end of the day, fast and furious obviously, just probably the most consistent thing on this list, just like, hey, it's another fast and furious movie that made seven hundred million dollars. because, of course, it did It always will be. And then we get to Jude, second The most you missed one.
Speaker 1:May 26th, the Little Mermaid came out Oh shoot Yeah which actually performed. Yes, it did, because it's a Little Mermaid movie that's made by Disney. Of course it's going to perform. Of course people are going to go see this. Look, another piece of the audience is the kids, For the kids. Yeah for the kids, exactly.
Speaker 2:For the children.
Speaker 1:Kids don't care about any of this crap. No, they're just going to see a movie and just you know, being trans by as much as we were in trans by our experiences watching movies When we were young. kids are going through that same thing now with, you know, with your Little Mermaids, with your Super Mario's. The only difference now is like these are remakes of stuff that had come before, or their adaptations of something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. And I mean, when I first saw the trailer for this Little Mermaid movie, i'm like yeah it looks like the Little Mermaid.
Speaker 2:They're doing the thing, they're doing the songs, they're doing the story Like this movie is probably going to do. Well, like it, almost it, almost, it, almost shredded into that. I mean, the funny thing about this is the live action Lion King movie made a ton of money. Yeah, yep, like it's a. It's a soulless hollow project with animated animals that shouldn't work, like at all And it doesn't work. But it's still made a ton of money Because it's the Lion King This is the Little Mermaid.
Speaker 2:And then Little Mermaid was was treading in that direction. Luckily they don't have as many soulless animated animal characters Like they have Sebastian. they have Flounder, which was already too much. It was already unsettling.
Speaker 1:You already got legs, you idiot. That's the acting right there. Less performance.
Speaker 2:And so it had that going for it. Hallebelli obviously just was incredible Like vocally, which is what you need. It's a musical Mulan, do the songs.
Speaker 1:Don't get me started. We'll keep it simple for Little Mermaid. It performed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it did perform Absolutely And like 500 million. We talked about that. 500 million mark is really hard to get.
Speaker 1:I will say Disney just needs to be careful with their remakes, because each one has gone down and gone down. So they just need to get a little careful, because what's, isn't there something next that they're doing? I know there's some.
Speaker 2:Hercules at some point, yep, yep. So I don't know what the next one like on the immediate pipeline is.
Speaker 1:It might be.
Speaker 2:Hercules might be the next one because Peter Pan won already is on Disney Plus and people hated it.
Speaker 1:Yep, you think people hated it because they wanted to hate it, or do you think they hated it because it's bad?
Speaker 2:I just didn't think it looked good.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen it, but I just was not interested, sure.
Speaker 2:And then they did the Pinocchio one that got dwarfed by Guillermo Dutton in the version Exactly. The Dumbo one was no good. I'm trying to think what else they did. They did the Beauty and the Beast one, like forever ago, yeah, and that was like the And the Waxon.
Speaker 1:It felt different too. It wasn't in like this piece of where it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think Hercules is the next one. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But that again, that's my. They got to be real careful. They just have to be very careful. You got to be real careful.
Speaker 2:Do the songs. Do the songs. Give me the wacky.
Speaker 1:Hades, yep, give me all that. June 2nd rolls around, yep And Simulant comes out with, with Robbie Amell, big, big time release. Come on, man, battling with Follow Her, possibly a bigger battle than Barbie and Opera and Hyrule will be. I'm just kidding. Come on, man, you know just the Spider-Man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, spider-man, we just talked about this movie like two weeks ago. Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1:It is the best movie of the summer so far. I don't think that's an if and or, but the only movie that it's truthfully battling with for the big box office of the year FastX Nope Is is Guardians 3. Yeah, this movie is is everything. Yeah, i'm still holding my statement true that it is better than the first. You know what I told myself? I wasn't. I wanted to get away from that. I hate doing that. Now, who cares if it's better or worse? Yeah, it's just incredible. This movie is Yeah And it performs. It's a household everywhere.
Speaker 2:Again the first one.
Speaker 1:The first one Um, you know, people were talking about this movie everywhere, like your general audience go, go, or was just everybody was here to see that movie. The theater was packed and we talked about it. We were like it was like five minutes before the movie started. We're like there's not a lot of people in here. And then, like as soon as the movie started, like 50 people ran in the theater. I was like whoop Um, and people were like engaged in that movie while we were watching. Like I remember like, and then it ended and like you know the funny TikTok reaction was like we're furious, You're furious, like kids were getting mad, like.
Speaker 1:But I told somebody, is that not the test of a good movie? It's like when people are that upset that this just ended.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100% It's, it's tremendous, like the movie. Again it it understood obviously its audience. It understood the momentum of the first one picked up Um, after its theater run. I think the best thing about into the spider web, the best thing about into the spider verse, was like after the theater run and like people started like picking it up And they're like, oh, this movie is amazing.
Speaker 1:You know what this movie reminded me of, and I'm going to compare this to guardians real quick. So we already knew guardians was going to have heart and soul. We already think that's just a given for James Gunn. This movie is one of the best examples of like understanding, like in a sequel. You need. You need that because now I already know these characters.
Speaker 1:So why do I give a crap now? Like, obviously I have the going in give a crap, but how do I give a crap in the moment of what's going on? And I just think in you know, i said this before the cool multiverse, different spider men, spiders and who cares the scene where he's with his mom, um, right after the party is is what you stay for the movie for. The scene where Gwen and her father finally reconciled, that's what you stay for. Um, obviously, what we think the best scene in the movie is is when Peter and Gwen, when Miles and Gwen are on the on the rooftop, like that's what you stay for And that's why I think this movie is truthfully incredible. It's narratively. You know why you get people to stay.
Speaker 2:So just visually groundbreaking Nuts And maybe not so positive ways for for the team behind it? Yeah.
Speaker 1:A soundtrack that is just you can listen to normally, you don't? it doesn't need to be like you're a weirdo listening to no, no, no, this is just the first one, right, the first one started this And now it's just commonplace that, like you know, black Panther did it, shang-chi did it And this movie does it like.
Speaker 2:Guardians did it Well. Guardians did it differently. Guardians did it with, like licensed music that like they're applying to to the movie, Whereas, like Black Panther, this into the Spider-Verse had songs curated for this movie And it just poof.
Speaker 1:Thanks, metro Boomin. You demand the best cameo alert in the movie too.
Speaker 2:My bad, everybody. There was somewhere to run There was somewhere to run. It's fun, it's funny. It's got so much heart. Great, obviously great spectacular visuals. Characters are incredible, performances are incredible, also marketed pretty well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Oh, marketed extremely well. You knew this movie was coming out And you can tell. you can tell on a first day how well the movie is marketed, like the flash. We're going to talk about it like We're getting close, Like not a not a huge, huge turnout for the flight. We want to like we didn't go to something. Did we go super late?
Speaker 2:Um, i don't remember if it was super late, but it was definitely first day, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was first day, It was the. It was the Thursday, Friday I think, or I think it wasn't the Thursday. We went on the Friday And it was. It wasn't insane in there. And then a week later, after across the Spider-Verse unfortunately Paramount does, and this is a, you know, we talked studios.
Speaker 1:Paramount has really had a tumultuous summer because this is the third time this summer that one of their movies has come out after a massive movie. So judges of dragons comes out after John Wick mistake. Now Transformers Rise of the Beast comes out after it across the Spider-Verse mistake. And before the flash And before the flash. And now Mission Impossible is fighting for time between right the week before Oppenheimer and Barbie. So, but we're at Transformers Rise of the Beast. Obviously, Spider-Verse win, Yeah, $536 million, And that's without with this movie being banned in certain countries. Horrible, And also, you know, uphill battle for a lot of people that you know don't agree with some of the things that are in this movie, which is just Crazy, Crazy, Yeah. But yes, we get to Transformers Rise of the Beast And this is, you know, this is also kind of a franchise.
Speaker 1:We need a win, We do need a little bit of a win, but it's also. This is like the. This is honestly the litmus test for this is Shazam, Is it not? Because look at Bumblebee versus Shazam one, and then Shazam two and Rise of the Beast, And off those two movies. I look at Bumblebee and you know how I look at it is Bumblebee is like a prequel. Now I don't even feel like Bumblebee is in this new franchise. I like to look at it because this is the beginning of a new, of a new trilogy. Yep, And I quite like this movie. I actually quite enjoyed this movie And probably had one of the lower returns, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 2:So I think I think the best way to describe this movie was like as far as like the summer blockbuster, this was like safe This is the safest one. Like it's just Transformers. Like people are familiar enough with it by now.
Speaker 1:made for better or for worse, right.
Speaker 2:People are familiar enough with it by now that it's going to get. It's going to generate a reasonable amount of hype and ticket sales And the quality of then the movie will dictate the future. Yeah, and I think this movie just kind of rode the middle ground Like I think people liked it Fine, fine enough that that you know more people kept going to see it. It didn't get a massive kind of second following or great word of mouth. It's safe, it was fun, it was. It was the quintessential summer blockbuster loud Transformers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it also did have some moments that you know, also get people to stay, like I did quite. You know, looking versus the the Bay piece of this universe It's still up in the air. If it's the same universe, i guess we'll never know. But I did quite like Anthony Ramos and his relationship with his brother. I think you know we're going to talk about the flash in a second. This third act of this movie cancel me, if you want is better than the third act of the flash. I enjoyed this third act way more than I enjoyed the third act of the flash In.
Speaker 1:You know Stephen Cable Jr. Like I really look it forward to what he does with his career as well too. I mean somebody that directed Creed two very visually stylized director as well. Really, he's a really influential and he's like you know his upbringing and like you know his. You know the New York backdrop in this movie is really well done too. So I'm really looking forward to what he does with this franchise specifically and what he does with his career too. So, operating off a $200 million budget, you get 345 in return. Obviously, it's probably not what you want, but look where you put this movie. You put this movie in between, the best movie of the summer and probably one of the biggest talked about, you know, in America at least. And then you put it up against you know, the most controversial and probably one of the most talked about movies of the summer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if this movie had been isolated, it probably would have done better.
Speaker 1:I don't. transformers fans were really enjoying this movie too, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think. all in all, i think this movie was was a pretty, pretty nice success for them.
Speaker 1:I will say success too, and I'll say it because I think it warrants a sequel and it warrants this trilogy. And we got the GI Joe influence. So reveal the summer. The GI Joe. You would think it's Clooney as Batman now, but it's actually the GI Joe's here. Gi Joe, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 2:GI Joe. All right, the last, the last two, all right, let's do elementals first. I want to save the flash for last. So elementals It's a Pixar movie. What if elements have emotions? What do you?
Speaker 1:mean the blackening came out on the 16th. That's the one we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, What if elements had emotions? Mm, hmm, Pixar, Look man we need. I think we need to have an intervention with Pixar at this point.
Speaker 1:You know, it's funny even to say because, like you know, you're absolutely incredible as a franchise or something when you're operating that on that high of a level where, like I'm, i probably could assure you that elementals probably pretty good if I were just to watch it and I'd feel something by the time I left. But, like, even elemental can't stack up the same way that, like you know, a toy story or the or an Incredibles would stack up. This movie got dishoroid, oh yeah. It just annihilated, um yeah, only because at the end of the day you could also take your kids to see the flash in the same day.
Speaker 2:And honestly, you could the across the spider versus probably exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i went to the. I went to the movies yesterday to see asteroid city, which is something I want to talk about in a second but, um, people were still going to see we're going to see across the spider verse. across the spider verse was the movie in the big theater. Wow, transformers came out a week after that Just won the box office Exactly. It's versus the flash that came out last week, a week and a half ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, like I said, Pixar we need. it might be time for an intervention with you guys, Yeah.
Speaker 1:What's the? what's the last truly great Pixar movie? Is it soul? It's probably the last like absolutely knockout Pixar movie that they've made that just came out in 2020. Very unfortunate also that that movie comes out in 2020. Cause I wish that movie would have came out in a in a non pandemic year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, and I mean light year bombed, so like that, that one Luca Luca did okay, yeah, luca was only on Disney plus. I'm pretty sure that was during the pandemic. And then you're talking Yeah, you're talking soul back in 2020 and then Incredibles 2 before that, so like, yeah, it's been probably three going on four years. Yep, because I think it was just, i think Disney with these Pixar movies, i think they're I don't know what their plan is going forward with these Pixar movies. Like it feels like these Pixar movies are just not built for movies theaters anymore.
Speaker 1:No, no, they're probably built for where you can like control your kids and where you can get your own stuff. That's your own house. Yeah, which is, you know, unfortunate because there is something to be said And again I'm I want to wait till we talk about, you know, the Flash, because after the Flash came came Asteroid City, but yeah, it's, it's much different now. I mean, we came from a time where, like you know, you need to go to a theater to see a movie, no matter what. Like that's where you need to go. I just had a conversation about this yesterday. Now it's like it's the inverse. It feels like like now it's why would I go to a theater to watch? Like I know a lot of people like that now. Like I can just illegally watch this on, you know, like the Firester, like I or I'll just, i'll just. The most common thing I hear now is I'll just wait until it's streaming. That's like a common phrase of now, which?
Speaker 2:is, you know, not to, not to go, not to retread Gold and Ground. but why Avatar is what it is? Because you can't just watch that at home.
Speaker 1:Nope, i feel like guilty even thinking about watching that, like you know, on like my laptop or like I need to. if I'm going to watch that at home, it needs to be on like my main TV, like big TV, like I need to watch it that way.
Speaker 1:Whereas, like Elemental's, like I could just watch that at home And I could wait for my kids like me and my kids can have like a nice movie night and watch this, so yeah, So that's why that movie got crushed And, like I said, pixar, we need to have an intervention.
Speaker 2:Speaking of interventions, the Flash, did I just remit the Get One? We'll never know, we'll never know. Because Warner Brothers is like nah, they're fine, it's fine, everything's fine. There's just two of them actually, Guess what? It's not fine Because your movie only made $200 million The Flash And you're coming out on digital in like a few weeks.
Speaker 1:July 18th, I think they said Yeah. Insane. So your movies are the dirt They were selling buy one, get one tickets to watch this. I have never heard of that for a major release like this.
Speaker 2:No, not not 12 days after it came out.
Speaker 1:I had like a, i had like a epiphany the other day. I was like why did we get this movie in 2023? This movie should have came out in like 2016.
Speaker 2:So okay, so this movie, neither of us really liked it that much, but I liked it a little bit more than you.
Speaker 1:You did. You hate this movie. I don't hate it, no, this is actually the downfall of you as this movie, but I'm sorry to know it's a true turning into the reverse. You should play the reverse flash in the sequel. That's never going to get made.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry to know. it's a trend where people that just don't know anything about the flash quite like this movie And people that do know the flash just don't like this movie. So what's what's happening? What's happening here? Like I thought they made this movie, that supposedly they made this movie like for us, like for the nerds. I'm going to end up going the other way.
Speaker 1:I'm going to retool what I think from your statement. I don't think it's a not knowing the flash thing. I think it's a not knowing Ezra Miller thing is the true issue of this, because I think some people that don't know Ezra Miller, are like, oh, look at this goofy, wacky person, just do these things.
Speaker 1:Two versions of him having fun. Look at this nice scene with his mom. You're Michael Keaton. That was Batman when I was a kid. Like cool And like this, is it? Like there's, no it's.
Speaker 1:I feel like on paper This is a no harm, no foul. But like for like the nerds, like us, like this is all hard, all fall foul. You know, like this is like so many party fouls happened in this movie. So we're, like you know the general audience might be like Okay, like that's fine, but like you know even somebody that's like in the middle of the pack. That's like you know, your Marvel person that only knows the movies. But like, make sure, as they see all, they see all the movies. And like you know what, dc is also superhero, so I'm going to go see those as well too. Like you know, they get to the flash. They're like that's not too bad And like, but what were the last two DC movies? It was Black Adam and Shazam. And now you get to this and you're like this isn't as bad as those, so it must be great.
Speaker 1:And you know, back to my point that I made weeks upon weeks ago of like everything's very drastic There's. We live in a time where there's no. This is the this there's. There's no subtlety. There's no. This movie is just alright. This movie's okay. This movie's decent. It needs to either be. This movie is the greatest thing ever Or this movie is the worst thing ever. There's no in between, and I think these are the spectrums of the flash. It's either this is the greatest movie superhero time or this is the worst thing I've ever seen. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then, like my other thing is, is so the fan servicey stuff was so abstract And so just that is actually the perfect word to use as abstract It was crazy, like again. I talked about the I'm not going to retry too much ground ball, like who was that for Who were those?
Speaker 1:for The George Reeve one is just very that really bothers me in hindsight of like you know, like you said, like if you know it's one of those a few, like it's the Mr Incredible meme of like does he know?
Speaker 2:like it's like this man ended his life, right, and that's the other. That's the thing about it too, like because people who don't know, like, that's the type of cameo. Yep, that's the kind of cameo that doesn't work on any front, right, doesn't work on any front, because what inherently is like a cameo for it's for people to be like Oh that thing, like positive, positive memory of that thing, or it's just like a no harm, no foul, like a general audience members like well, who's Bradley Cooper and Dungeons and Jacks are actually a decent boy, Yeah like it's either like Oh cool, bradley Cooper's here, or like what was that Right?
Speaker 2:So this George Reeve Superman thing, it was two things. You either get like a like a general audience person is like what is that? Who is that? I don't know who Superman. He's in black and white, i understand right, because it's from like the 50s, like who remembers that, right? Or like people who I can't even say grew up with him as their Superman.
Speaker 1:Because who you gotta go get something? It's like 80 years old Yeah.
Speaker 2:But then there's people like us who know the story, and that cameo is also not for us, because we see that guy and we're like he killed himself, like that. That that's not good, like that's not positive.
Speaker 1:And then, like there's the Jake Garrick piece who like and remember one of the things that they kept saying is Oh no, the movie purposely looks like this And I was like maybe in the chrono bullet supposed to look like that, like on purpose, which I can live with, but like these are like. remember, i think it looks so bad that people are like that looks enough like Teddy Sears to probably be Teddy Sears. But then I watched the movie. I was like that kind of looks like John Wesley ship And like now I'm landing on.
Speaker 2:I think they just mashed the two of them together and like and post and just said all of those cameos were CGI, including dot dot dot, the Nicholas Cage one who was apparently shot for the movie. He wasn't shot for the movie, he shot for the movie, but it was also all a CGI person.
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't get it.
Speaker 2:And again, when we talked about the movie, it was way too inside baseball for anyone to like understand the reference.
Speaker 1:It just does not work It talks about it.
Speaker 2:in comparison to like the multiverse of madness cameos 100% worked. We could say that they didn't work for the movie, but people recognize them.
Speaker 1:Yep, people were like is that Jim from the office? That's kind of cool, he kind of does. Even for the people that didn't know it was like that's Jim from the like, that's kind of cool, like he's playing, like he could play a race. Tall and likey People remember Patrick. Stewart Yeah that was like that's a bit like captain, like the person from one of the movies in the franchise just being inside.
Speaker 2:inside the baseball one was black because nobody watched that stupid, but it doesn't have any harm to it.
Speaker 1:There's no harm.
Speaker 1:So it's fine, yeah, but yeah, this is just it's. It is it's just. I just again, like this movie's not the worst, It's not the worst thing, like this movie is actually. I think, like I said, i like this movie, Like I don't hate this movie actually, I think this movie is not horrible. I don't think it's bad. I just think there's choices in this movie where I'm like who's making these calls Like you heard the story of? we were supposed to get a very, very different, like I think it was. Was it Jeff Johnson? It wasn't Jeff Johnson, it was. It was somebody in Ezra Miller wrote a script for this movie where it was supposed to be a lot like something else I think One of the flash comics. It was supposed to be a lot more akin to with Ray Fisher, as Cyborg was supposed to be the whole thing. And you know, the studio came out whoever it was at that time, they said absolutely not, we're going to do this version. And now it's seven years after this movie should have came out And we get this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and again. This movie just got destroyed at the box office 211 million dollars. I think both this and Shazam are going to hurt Blue Beetle badly. Yep, yep, because Blue Beetle does not have mainstream appeal to it outside of, probably, george Lopez and Zolo Miradouania being you know, being Cobra Kai, having Cobra Kai fan, that's going to help.
Speaker 1:But, and it also being the first Latino led superhero movie, which is great, but I don't know if that's enough to push it over the edge. It's going to need like a Shazam one s energy to get it, which could happen. Yeah, like, what does this movie need to make for it to, you know, at least be credible? it's going to need like probably three to 400 million and plus for people to remember it.
Speaker 2:It's going to have to live in that Shazam one, three, three, 20 to 350 range.
Speaker 1:It's going to need a heck of a word of mouth to it's really. And again, i am just hard stop. I genuinely think if, if you want to make sequels, make your sequels like. I don't think you need to put everything in the decent like needs to be in the DCU, but do not make this the first thing that you do in the DCU. I think that's a mistake And it also needs to be.
Speaker 2:It also needs to be word of mouth that isn't fabricated. Yeah, oh, that's a big one. Yeah, because I think that also hurt the flash which was all of a sudden. Just these random celebrities were just like this is the greatest movie ever And people are like Oh yeah, i'm going to see it And we're like it wasn't the greatest movie ever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's for sure, right.
Speaker 2:Like, because it wasn't a lot of word of mouth from like people, like regular people. It was a lot of word of mouth from other celebrities. It was a lot of word of mouth from like influencers, like tech talk. Well, there was the.
Speaker 1:There was the infamous first screening that happened at cinema. That was the start of all this, where, like they showed it at CinemaCon and people were like I just think it's a shell shock because you're getting shown like a whole and like the flash has a lot going on in it too. So, like, if you just see that with like no sample size and you're just like here, here's the, not like clips to get people like here's the whole movie, like you're around all these and like, of course, some people are going to be like, wow, like you know, you got your cameos in there where, like your, your, your soups are going to just start screaming.
Speaker 2:Like you know what I mean Like it's the perfect storm of like yeah, you were also brought there, Yep, like invited there.
Speaker 1:So like, well, it's the premier, it's the premier thing that they talk about in Hollywood. Like always, take the premier reviews with a grain of salt, because a lot of those people got invited to the premiere. They're around.
Speaker 2:The people that made these movies are starring, like so I don't begrudge them for being for saying that, because like they have to in a way, they have to say that. So but like at the same time, that was all we were getting, yep, like we weren't getting like anything critically until like right before the movie came out And like the critical reviews were like this movie is okay to like mediocre.
Speaker 1:And again the premiere came out and again more people are like this movie is absolutely incredible. But then the, the, the veil started to fall And it was just like this movie.
Speaker 2:maybe isn't the, the, the fan reception still is really high, though it's still, you know, in the 90s, i think, on Rotten Tomatoes, but that's a little bit of just copium, to be honest with you, because people will just dive in like especially like I hate to like draw this line, but especially like on the DC side of things, they will side with anything that isn't Marvel. Oh yeah, yeah, i agree. So like they're just gonna tell themselves that this was the best movie ever and add all these redeeming qualities when like no, didn't, just didn't, Like you can't, don't, don't, tell me that the bad CGI was on purpose.
Speaker 2:I just absolutely just say you didn't have enough time.
Speaker 1:You didn't have time to finish it, and there were 85 directors that worked on this movie as well.
Speaker 2:Like this movie has been, I'm not gonna think any of you, andy Muschetti, if you're just like hey man, like you're getting Batman like wasn't my movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the Batman stuff and we said it was good, Like I think you're gonna do probably pretty good with Batman. I just got to see how you do with emotion and non action stuff. I actually have to see how you do with action stuff too a little bit.
Speaker 2:And it was just like I said. They kept Ezra Miller on this project because if it did bomb they could just blame Ezra Miller, Like hey, Ezra Miller is a crazy person, And that's.
Speaker 1:We couldn't market them, We couldn't put them out there, for just nuts that like you couldn't, because why would Michael Keaton say yes to doing them the marketing for this movie? So like it falls on the soldiers shoulders of Sasha Kaia, who's not a household name, which also Michael Shannon was barely in this movie, who has publicly said that they weren't gonna be in this movie in the first place. But they just said. But he said, like you know, andy's a lovely guy, so I just said yes And like I have respect for Zach and and they're like Hey, so we can't bring Ezra Miller out to do the press.
Speaker 2:Michael Keaton can't really be bothered to do it either. He's in his first Harrison Ford age. Can you just get out there, because we don't have anyone?
Speaker 1:I think they paid him to go out there. I bet you they were like we will just, we're gonna, we're gonna pay you because we don't have anyone. Yeah, who, and that was another thing I had, like what's the, what's the cast of this movie? It's two as a memory.
Speaker 2:I compete in Sasha Kaia for not as much as people think.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then last couple points I want to make before. We, you know, do like a two minute. we need a two minute drill for the drill for what's to come.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's two movies that came out this Friday and that's no hard feelings in asteroid city. And my point to make about this is times have changed. I mean, one thing we focused on weeks and weeks back was the infamous for me Matt Damon interview on Hot Ones that he had, where he talked about movies are different, like, especially with streaming. Like I told you, like a movie, like no hard feelings comes out in like 2005. This movie is making money And, like you know, jennifer Lawrence is going to be plastered on every magazine everywhere Like she's back. She's back.
Speaker 1:Like this movie now in 2023, is like wait for streaming and then we're going to go watch it. And then asteroid city. So like you talk about, like you know the quote unquote real cinema in the room. Like All right, so now one of the big time directors is up. That's not. Like you know, christopher Nolan. Like now you get Wes Anderson up to play, you get him up to bat. And again another movie, that's like we'll wait for it on string. We'll see how it does too, and you know that's that's movies now. Like Wes Anderson makes Ramputa, pesto Hotel in 2014.
Speaker 1:Like, even though this is, you know, it's getting to the height of the superhero genre. Like people are going to go see it. It's much, much different. Now, walked into the theater, there was like maybe, maybe 10 people in the theater of the opening weekend of the movie And it was all, all it was. It was, i think it was four older couples plus me, which was, which was funny, so, and that was that's the sample size of the movie. Like this is, this is what we're going for now And you know, this landscape is just it's drastically different.
Speaker 1:It's just it's crazy to think about. Like it's what's Anderson, like you would think, like a guy like that makes a movie and, like you know, people are going to go see it. Jennifer Lawrence in a hard R comedy movie. Like people are going to see it. It's just that's not the case anymore. Like people are going to go see a Spider-Man movie, they're going to go see, like you know, they're going to go see like a franchise action movie. But you know, your rom-coms and your and your R comedies and, like your, your film festival esque movies are, like you know, they're getting so much more few and far between on a bigger theatrical skill, which those are the movies that dominated this like they're the movies that made this. Yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:And next week we have a date with destiny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, and then I mean the whole reason we're doing this is because we have just a few more kind of like hate makers coming up and it's going to be interesting to see how those do So. Coming up at the end of this week we have Indiana Jones five, indiana Jones of the dial of destiny. Obviously Harrison and Ford returns as Indiana Jones, directed by James Van Gold.
Speaker 1:They should not have shown that movie at Kings. I think that was a mistake. They should never have done that.
Speaker 1:That is not the type of movie. Maybe, again, you show that movie in the 80s, if you show writers in, you know, in 1980 and you do that that plays, that does not play in 2023. Because what's that movie probably more akin to? It's not more akin to, you know, your asteroid cities or your killers of the flower move. That movie is more akin to your gardens of the galaxies and your spider-man. So I do think it was a mistake And it sucks because you know James Van Gold and oxter nominated director Harrison Ford, one of the golden people of Hollywood history, like you know these heavy hitters, just you know you can't survive against these, these fandom movies at this point.
Speaker 1:And then you know, two weeks later, we're getting Mission Impossible, which had to move their date two days back so they can debut in the middle of a week versus at the end of the week, because a week later is is judgment day, lord, and what a way to end this July 21st. This was coming. You knew this was coming. Pete, what are you wearing? I personally have gotten a three P suit Armani suit, taylor and it's going to be in bright pink, but then it's going to have a have a inside section. That's just very reversible, it's reversible and it's going to be like a funeral suit on the other side. Oh man, What a day. I can't believe this has happened. The marketing's starting for both and it's nuts Like they built a Barbie dream house in the middle of Malibu that they're doing the marketing at. But, conversely, does Christopher Nolan possess a nuclear weapon? And that's the lore of Oppenheimer? We don't know. He keeps saying that we did practice. What do you mean? you did practice? What does that?
Speaker 2:mean boss, just I love that neither of these movies moved. I love that they came. They're coming out the same day, i love just. This is just the perfect storm of just to diametrically opposed films.
Speaker 1:This might be the best example of how to use social media to your advantage, too. As a movie, as like movies, yeah, and funny enough.
Speaker 2:Neither, none of none of that. None of that came from the movie studios. No, no, this was just us. We did this. We were like this movie's coming out, This movie's also coming out.
Speaker 1:They're the most contrasting movies that you can possibly ask for. Wait, wait, are they, though? Because I said that because the second Barbie trailer came out. I was like wait a minute, there's a darkness here, there's an ethical debate in this Barbie movie. Possibly more than I've become the death destroyer of worlds Okay, robert, no one cares. Am I a real person or not, that's what we care about.
Speaker 2:It's so fascinating. I did this Barbie Oppenheimer thing from from jump Because, like in the beginning, you were like surely one of these has to move.
Speaker 1:And you know, as it got closer, i was like, oh, oppenheimer is probably going to be the one that moves, because Barbie us a mid summer Barbie movie is going to make and Ryan Gosling is going to make a gazillion dollars.
Speaker 1:And then I was like, wait a minute, people still love cinema. And guess what? Christopher Nolan is cinema. So people in its Killian Murphy and his first leading time with him, it's this, robert, and it's the story of the inception of the nuclear bomb, done by Christopher Nolan. So you know everything's going to be practical, like I'm there. So now you're like, uh, oh, what do we do?
Speaker 2:Are all, are both these movies going to make a gazillion dollars.
Speaker 1:I do think that Barbie is gonna, is gonna win. Yeah, barbie's gonna win. It's just obviously more people can see Barbie. But what if Oppenheimer wins? But what if the crowd from both of them switch? That's what I'm saying. It's gonna happen. I know it because we're gonna do it for the memes. We're gonna do it right, we're gonna do the thing, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:If my work life allows me to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are going to see both of these movies in the same day. I don't think there's an if and or but about that.
Speaker 2:And we won't be the only ones, No promise you.
Speaker 1:The only question we have to ask is which one are we seeing first?
Speaker 1:I imagine you got a see, it's not simple Because, like you know, and then that also goes down to like, we talk about personnel, like it's Ludwig Gorsen, it's you know, it's Hoitzenhotem, it's Christopher Nolan cool, and then you're your cast. But then, inversely, it's Greta Gerwig. You have some of the biggest pop stars on the planet working on the music for Barbie. You have Ron Castling and Margaret. Like holy crap, like what do you do? We fight, let them fight, let them fight. Get Ken Watson, avi to do like the. Just have him do like the the Nicole Kidman thing before the movie start, yeah, and then he's just like let them fight, and then both move off.
Speaker 2:Look, they need to think, yeah, they need to do like a, like those old the showtime boxing promos that they went air like the week before a big boxing match. They should do that with with Barbie and Oppenheimer. This is gonna be insane And this this is ulti-. Ultimately, everything that we talked about. This entire episode leads to Barbie, oppenheimer Mm-hmm, because it's the biggest cinematic moment of the last, like probably since Avengers Endgame.
Speaker 1:And that's saying something. Or Spider-Man No Way Home. But I guess maybe It's fabrication.
Speaker 2:But this is just This is real. Yeah, this is like Spider-Man No Way Home still has like a kind of a niche kind of thing to it. This just feels like it's just everyone is invested. Yeah, this is this is absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 1:This is crazy, doesn't make sense. Like if you would have told me, like you know, two years like a year ago, like I mean two years ago, like, hey, oppenheimer and Barbie are gonna release on the same day, and like it's you know, a movie about Barbie in a movie that Christopher Nolan's doing about the nuclear bomb. I was gonna be like, well, this is good luck, barbie. And then the cast started getting announced And then they were like, well, we're gonna get Oscar-nominated credit girl with to do this.
Speaker 2:I said, oh, and then we're ditching Amy Schumer and we're getting Marvel Robbie. Oh, what a decision. That's like Oh man, just that is a spurs-esque Oh yeah, just dynasty maneuver. Yeah, look at us, man. I can't wait, i can't like we're three weeks away. We are three weeks away. We're three weeks away from Barbie Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1:And that's truthfully it, because after that, blue Beetle is essentially the last big one of the year before it gets into September is when it ramps down. September is usually the time where you know, and it's for a reason. That's when kids go back to school, that's when you know, you know a lot of some adults go back because it's like you know your summer like your summer's over, and so it's like the one movie I'm quite looking forward to. So my my dark horse for the rest of the year is going to be The Creator.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of people saw that trailer and they were like, oh, this is this is interesting, i told you before we hopped on. I think this is going to be the bullet train of this year. It was like this movie that didn't was just an original idea, just spawned and, like you know, people are now kind of into it. It's like this little this sci-fi world that seems very expansive, that looks pretty incredible, with an actor that's gotten a lot of play in the last couple of years. And then obviously still my my single most anticipated movie of this year, um by far is Chicken Run, dawn of the Dawn of the Nugget. Heh Uh, just kidding, it's due in part two. Obviously, sometimes I just throw that trailer on to feel something. Hmm.
Speaker 2:Hmm, i do the same thing with the Craven trailer. What was that?
Speaker 1:accent, don't forget. that's coming out in October. It comes out on my birthday. Yeah, what did you get for your birthday?
Speaker 2:I got a fallout boy cover of We Didn't Start the Fire.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm into that. I get I get Craven the Hunter for my birthday. Yes, they gotta we gotta make sure Hollywood releases a movie on our birthdays, but it's it can't be anything that's good. It's gotta be always something that's a meme, because it's much funnier that way.
Speaker 2:And that Craven movie will be if nothing but a meme.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I can't wait. I'm actually wearing a suit to that movie too. I'm looking forward for the I'm just looking forward I'm gonna wear a leopard suit to that movie.
Speaker 2:Just looking forward to the post-credits scene where Morbius shows up again.
Speaker 1:And Michael Keaton. Oh, my god, that's how they should do it. They should just keep recruiting and like-. so now it's like gonna be Michael Keaton and Morbius go to Craven And then, like, michael Keaton, morbius and Craven go to El Muerto, and then Michael Keaton, morbius, el Muerto and Craven go to HypnoHustler, and then HypnoHustler, michael Keaton, craven, morbius, i forget the last one. El Muerto go to Venom Go to Venom.
Speaker 2:Venom being the last one is the funniest one, it's.
Speaker 1:Kittler, and then he's just like okay. And then Andrew Garfield shows up and he's Spider-Man And he's like what is this universe? It makes no sense, but I'm gonna do it because I'm an Avenger, oh man yeah, all right, the movies, the movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're done here.
Speaker 1:Zlaquemann, are we gonna come out Who?
Speaker 2:knows, maybe they should just hex that movie?
Speaker 1:I don't know That movie might make The last one made a billion dollars, so Look you know, Camio Careful.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying overseas it plays.
Speaker 1:Best Aquaman Camio was in the flash actually, so maybe the flash is pretty good. Drunk Jason Momoa.
Speaker 2:Judged Jason Momoa.
Speaker 1:And dog Jason.
Speaker 2:Momoa Stumbled on to set and they were like film this.
Speaker 1:And Mushetty said give me my camera. How to get this on film.
Speaker 2:And then they did it. All right, guys, that's gonna do it for us this week. You can follow us on Twitter at projectinuponterscorepod. You can follow us on Facebook New episodes posted every Wednesday, except for this week. This one will be up on Thursday, which is fine. You can follow us on Instagram. That's the Project Infinite Pod. Next week, we're gonna review Indiana Jones and the Dala Destiny.
Speaker 1:We're back to movie reviews next week. We're back to movie reviews, in fact-.
Speaker 2:For that week and then the week after. Permission impossible.
Speaker 1:Yep, and then we get a break. I think we have a break in between Indian Mission Impossible.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh. And then we have another break between Mission Impossible and no, we don't Do we. Yes, we do.
Speaker 1:We have a break in between that, thank God, we have to decide Because there's two avenues we can take. We can either do maybe like a Christopher Nolan, you know. Look at his career and see how he stacks up against you know, being like, you know this type of director that is like he's the only in the modern age guy that can do block It's him and Jordan Peele, it feels like that they can do blockbusters And people talk about them Or we just build a Barbie Dream House. So whatever one we land on will be the preview episode. Maybe we do, but maybe we talk about Christopher Nolan while building a Barbie Dream.
Speaker 2:House. I don't even know how to begin to-.
Speaker 1:I don't know how we're going to do the review that day. Neither We're going to need a celebrity cameo. I don't know what's going to happen, but Neither.
Speaker 2:But we got a little bit more time to figure it out. Until then, from me, from Careful man. Man, i don't even know where to go with this one. Our topic was so wide ranging and fun. From the Careful man Trying to think of, like what, the most successful. So all right, it's got to be from the-.
Speaker 1:You got to be real careful here, Fury.
Speaker 2:From the Shanturo Furukawa of the podcast the president of Nintendo. I had to pick something Mario related. So you get the president of Nintendo this week. Because your movie made $1.33 billion, I'll take it And a happy birthday to the goat.
Speaker 1:There's nothing possible without this guy. John L Way Nope, why would you pick?
Speaker 2:John L Way of all porn events, because his birthday is my birthday.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's actually crazy Nice. Let's see who else has a birthday today. All right, celebrity birthday No, mel Brooks, okay, so Mel Brooks' birthday is today. Henry VIII Uh-oh, uh-oh. Elon Musk's birthday is today. Oh, no, henry VIII. So this is the Henry VIII that that, um right, that Timothy Shalloway played in the king? Mm-hmm, look nothing alike. Ooh, pat Morita. Okay, oh, it's soccer's own. Kevin De Bruyne's birthday. It's Rob Dyrdek's birthday today.
Speaker 2:Not a. Rob Dyrdek. Yep, ooh, john Cusack.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's Kathy Bates' birthday today, right? Mm-hmm? Nice Mm-hmm, who else we got? Oh, you said Pat Morita, right? Mm-hmm, mel Brooks, it would have been his birthday, right? I like Mel Brooks, mel Brooks, good.
Speaker 2:Brad Lee B. It's Brad.
Speaker 1:Lee B, it's Brad Lee.
Speaker 2:B Nice.
Speaker 1:Oh, John Cusack's birthday. Ah nice, All right, I'm in good company.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do have good company Once you got past Elon.
Speaker 1:Musk, we're in good shape. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that was a tough start. It was a tough start. Oh, it's John Watts' birthday. Is it John Watts' birthday? Leave it in John Watts. Leave it in John Watts.
Speaker 2:Don't cut any scenes. That's one of our best bits. We missed that one last week.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:We talked about our best bits.
Speaker 1:Leave it in. John Watts, yeah, leave it in. We can't look at my birthday yet. We'll wait till Craven comes out, yeah, and then we'll talk about famous celebrity birthdays that day.
Speaker 2:All right, guys. We'll see you next week for Indiana Jones. Until then, goodbye Peace.