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Ready to plunge into the world of cinema where stunts defy gravity, and storylines keep you on the edge of your seats? Then gear up as we scrutinize the blockbuster magic of Tom Cruise and Christopher McQuarrie in Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning, Part 1. We unpack every aspect of this thrilling production, from the spectacular second act to the profound influence it has on the modern movie landscape. We dare to ask - could this be the best summer blockbuster ever? We dissect every high-octane action scene, riveting plot twist and brilliant performance, shedding light on their symbiotic relationship as actor and director.
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50:34 Our Favorite Moments, Characters & Things
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So, fasten your seatbelts for a wild ride as we navigate the exciting world of superheroes and celebrate the brilliance of the Mission Impossible franchise. Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
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50:34 Our Favorite Moments, Characters & Things
01:04:53 Court’s Big THEORY
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Speaker 2:Podcast. Go tell your friends. It's the Infinite Podcast. My God, he never ends. It's the Infinite Podcast with Robin Corp the Cube. Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Project Infinite Podcast, the podcast covering the Infinite and ever expanding multiverse of fandom for movies, comics, tv shows, video games. We got you covered. I'm Rob. I'm here, as always with Court. We had a special special episode of the podcast just because there was too much dang stuff to talk about in the regular episode, the weekly episode. We were not able to talk about Mission Impossible, dead Reckoning, part 1 in that episode, but we are here to talk about it now in this special abridged edition episode.
Speaker 1:We're back to doing our special edition movie reviews.
Speaker 2:Yes, we haven't done one.
Speaker 1:We've done so many episodes of this that we're back to doing something that we used to do.
Speaker 2:It's a callback.
Speaker 1:We're getting self-referential.
Speaker 2:We're getting self-referential. We're going to talk about Mission Impossible, dead Reckoning man. What a picture. We got all the things that we could have wanted. The Dutch Angles are back. Tom Cruise is back, welcomeing us to his movies.
Speaker 1:The cinematic experience is back.
Speaker 2:I'm glad that, hewhoa, I'm glad thatI'm glad that he's cornered this angle of being like hello welcome to my movie.
Speaker 1:I'm Cinemas Tom Cruise. I'm Blockbuster Cinemas Tom Cruise and Christopher McQuarrie is here. Yeah, and Christopher McQuarrie has just made an absolute name for himself. That guy can produce, and hats off to them for producing quality. I mean, that's number one praise of this movie. It's just you feel quality coming out of this.
Speaker 2:I just love that. I just love that intro so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the intro is great and it justho, and it like gets you ready. It's like I'm about to probably see some good movie. Yeah, Like there's like there's like a feeling of being proud of that. This is the project that they're putting their name on.
Speaker 2:I'm Tom Cruise. This is Christopher. Give the people a wave, chris. Yeah, he's like I'm here. Yeah, I'm also here. Yeah.
Speaker 1:This is my movie. Yeah, good people making some great, great movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is their.
Speaker 1:They've been together since the DracReacher days in 2015. It's 2023, eight years later, and look at them now. I mean they have one of the biggest movies on the planet and they really revitalized the franchise that wasn't dying or dead by any means necessary.
Speaker 2:No, the opposite in fact.
Speaker 1:But they just, they really are understanding the modern Blockbuster and how to entertain the mass audience.
Speaker 2:Exactly, but I mean it's it's we talked about. I talked about this a little bit with John Wick and it's interesting that the interest level and the quality of these movies seems to be going up as as the movies come along. And Mission Impossible is on a similar track, especially with like the newer ones, so like the ones after probably four, I would say after three, after three.
Speaker 1:Because Ghost Protocol to this feels like its own universe. It's like it feels like its own piece itself.
Speaker 1:Like one, two, three feels like its own three, and then four, five, six, seven plus eight, which is going to come out feels like its own five, but they all but this one, what it does a great job of it's volitifying the rest of the franchise, specifically Mission Impossible one. So what I did to prepare for this because I'm psychotic is I've watched every Mission Impossible movie. I watched one, two, three on the Saturday. I watched four, five, six on the Sunday and Monday I saw Mission Impossible seven and I'm we are happy to report, like we said, this movie is great. It is the. I think this is probably the best movie of the summer, the summer blockbusters that we've talked about so far. It's probably this in Guardians three or the or the two best.
Speaker 2:Because you're not counting across the spider bars, right.
Speaker 1:I wasn't If I were, I mean if I were to cross count across the spider verse and turns the live action stuff. I think that this is, yeah, this is. This is real good. I don't know which, I don't know, and you know, you know what. Who cares which one's better? Let's talk about the action movie. Who cares?
Speaker 2:Well, the biggest I mean the biggest compliment I can give this movie up top is it's two hours and 43 minutes and doesn't feel like it, not feel it at all.
Speaker 1:Nope, so I saw this movie. Yeah, I saw this movie on Monday and then we just saw it a couple hours ago again, so I've seen it twice. You've seen it once. I will tell you again after seeing it. I got a lot of things just kind of confirmed to me about this movie.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I mean it. Just it plays well. The 245, you don't feel that 245 ish? The acting is specifically top notch in this one for the summer blockbusters. It's just, it's just a good fast pace. The energy is frenetic in this movie I'm going to talk about. I think this is probably one of the best second acts I've seen in a movie. This second act is absolutely breathtaking. I told you there's a side A and a side B to this act too, and it is the. It is probably one of the best pieces of this franchise, if not just action movies in general.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I think I think I planted my flag here in saying that I wanted to. I wanted to open up these, these kind of reviews that we do with, with answering one simple question, because it's a question I've been asking the last few reviews that we've done, particularly with the flash in Indiana Jones, and it's a question I've subsequently been retroactively answering for other movies that I've seen. And the question is very simple who is this for? And I find myself if you listened to the last episode I'd said this I've found myself with the movies that I like versus the movies that I haven't liked quite as much. I've been struggling to answer that question with the movies that I haven't liked as much compared to movies that I have liked, where I know exactly who this movie's for and I know exactly what this movie's trying to accomplish. So, with Mission Impossible dead reckoning part one, I will ask the question who is this for?
Speaker 1:This movie's for everybody. Like this movie has a very vast, you know, kind of audience to it and it's a great, it's a great litmus, like I look at. I look at this and I'm taking the fan event that I went to. There's a lot of different people, like we were I went and I got there a little bit early and then people just started kind of pouring into the theater. But it wasn't one type of person, it was like it was a very vast different majority. Like there was like older couples in there, there was like younger people, like there was like there were some kids in there. Like you can tell that this movie is just a good action movie where there's not something too profane. So you can't keep anybody kind of out from this. It's not childish enough to, like you know, keep the adults from being like this is just the kids movie kind of disguised. Like this movie is very versatile and I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2:Yep, this movie is versatile. This movie if I could just check a couple of boxes this movie is obviously for fans of Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1:I specifically this one, but I will give that to the. I think you know I hate to. I don't even want to really compare in this episode, I just want to sing the praises of this. But to compare this to Fallout, I think Fallout on paper is a better film itself, Specifically the third act of like the flow of Fallout, like you know, when like somebody's like playing a sport and you're like watching them and like you're like this is like one of the best performances Like I've seen.
Speaker 1:That's how I felt about Fallout on my rewatch, like from start to finish. That thing is like I feel like when Christopher McQuarrie put down the like you know, put the hands on the keyboard, he was just cooking on this script. The whole way through this movie feels just like a such, like a love letter to the first one, which I just wasn't expecting Down to. I mean, kitchwich is in this movie, obviously from the first one, but a lot of narrative pieces from the first one are in this movie. Even down to the Dutch angles are back, which is really awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I would say fans of Mission Impossible, absolutely Fans of action movies yes, check that box Fans of the movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fans of like you know again, the broad audience is a perfect like oh, mission Impossible, let's go see that Friday night. We don't like because there still are people like I remember when I was younger, like I used to think about it, like people used to go to the box office and look at the screen and be like what movie's playing. Nowadays it's like you know, kind of know what movie you're going to see. Like to the people that still do that hats off to you. And like this is a perfect movie like Mission Impossible, let's go see Mission Impossible.
Speaker 2:Fans of Tom Cruise Yep, we'll enjoy this. I think he's very good in this. So, like I'm able to kind of check these boxes of the type of person that this movie was made for, the type of fan this movie was made for, and you encapsulate it perfectly, like, truly like, if you enjoy movies, you, I think, will find enjoyment out of this movie, unless, like you're really into like a specific type of movie, like if you're like into rom-coms, obviously don't see this.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know, I don't know because Haley Atwell and I mean this is probably a good segue to talk about performances. But, like you said, Tom Cruise is great. I agree, he's great as like, at this point in the franchise. I mean as much as we feel like there's so many of these franchises that run forever, not all. There's not a lot of franchises in like movie history that run for this long. So to add a different actress into there while still having an actress from a previous movie in there that he has to play off of he plays off of both of them very well, that being Rebecca Ferguson and Haley Atwell, but Haley Atwell, specifically, just is an infusion of energy.
Speaker 2:You want to say the thing about Indiana Jones. Yeah, let's get it out of the way.
Speaker 1:Actually we might have to save it. So when we talk about spoilers, so I mean a good way that we can kind of keep going about this, to kind of, you know, summarize and make this part like the non-spoiler part as we could talk about, you know, box office, obviously, and you could talk projection, I guess, because obviously the numbers aren't there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we haven't even hit the first weekend yet, but this is projected to be the highest opening for Mission Possible. They estimate by Sunday it'll hit 90 million, which is very good for an opening weekend for this movie. Obviously, Tom Cruise did his best to get out in front of Oppenheimer and Barbie.
Speaker 1:He's been globetrotting through all the premieres Cause he's a movie star. He's the definition of like he's going to. Like he's been doing a little on the East Coast. He's just been going to popping up in random IMAX theaters and just having Q&As, which is awesome. I have to respect it. I have to respect it. Like he's just into the idea of like big blockbuster movie making, but not stupid. Big blockbuster movie making Like competent big action blockbuster, like great movie making.
Speaker 2:I hope he does it. I hope he does it so like the lights go down in the theater that he goes to and then like they show like the intro that he's in, where he's like hello, I'm Tom Cruise, this is my movie.
Speaker 1:And then he walks out and he's like I'm also Tom Cruise, and this is me talking about, talking about me, talking about the movie, I mean, you know the 2022 Oscars were a big one, where a lot of people kind of thanked Tom Cruise for kind of saving cinema again with Top Gun Maverick, and I feel like the low key thing they didn't want to say was that he kind of, yes, he got people back in the seats, but he got people in the seats to see a movie that wasn't a superhero movie or a Star Wars movie, and that's the thing that he kind of drew people away from. So 90 million out of the gate is great. Obviously, this movie came out on a Wednesday, with pre-screenings on the Monday, but still good numbers. I think this movie could make 500 million and probably would have made more. I think this movie might play the best out of the three internationally. I think, too, the only one that's in the way is Barbie. Truthfully, I don't know how keen some of the Eastern audiences are going to be to see Oppenheimer. True.
Speaker 2:Very true, yeah. And then I mean just aggregation, critical consensus, audience consensus. It's to quote K2SO from Rogue One it's high, it's very high.
Speaker 1:What is it so? We got a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes right now 96, critics, 96, audience 94.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's high, it's high, it's very high. It's one of the most critically consistent movies that we've come across in the last few months and, yeah, it's performing well so far. It's projected to perform well. It's being reviewed well. I don't think it's quite going to hit the highs that Top Gun did, but you know, as far as Top Gun was the definition of lightning in a bottle, though.
Speaker 1:That was the perfect storm of everything you can ask for in movie, and it's like whether you believe in divine intervention. But that movie just happened upon the most perfect of timing it could have.
Speaker 2:And you know, it happened at a time also when We've talked about the show the last couple of weeks, where there wasn't this just there's just slog and slew of films, big budget, you know, high marketable films that have been releasing. I mean, how many reviews have we done in the last six weeks? Six, yeah, so yeah. So I mean the fact that this movie is coming out at this time and performing the way it is and being reviewed the way it is is a testament to its quality. Just from top to bottom. We get, you know, performances. I mean the cast is pretty vast. To be honest with you, like, a lot of the characters in this have quite a bit to do, which is good.
Speaker 1:There is a quite a and, to even double down, there's quite a bit of characters in this movie too. There's a pretty big laundry list and you know, thinking back that's not something the other movies had. The other movies kind of had a tight-knit group versus like them, but it's not just the team. The team is still tight, but now you're kind of trying to expand the lore a little bit. But I think they do it If this makes sense. They did it in the most mission-impossible way, Because how clandestine everybody that kind of got injected into this movie was.
Speaker 2:Yes, I totally agree with you. The way Like everyone. It's weird. We talk about we use the term main character energy a lot. Everyone in this movie has some sort of main character energy to them, like whether they're the actual main character or not, they all perform as if those characters themselves feel like they possess main character energy, like I'm the main character of this movie. Actually, like there's so many characters that I feel exude that, which I appreciate, because I think oftentimes that's for the better, because it makes you pop off screen and I feel like every character in this is memorable in some form or fashion, or at least every main character. Obviously, there's the classic mission-impossible room full of people that obviously aren't as memorable but are all played by Notable actors like having the same character from top gun play the same character in this movie.
Speaker 1:The same exact character actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so man it. And then I mean just another like non-spoiler bit across the board, the action.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah I. So I want to talk like the acting itself, like the acting was great, like everybody bought their a game. Yes, you know my I mean obviously my standout is Haley I well. But also I quite like where Simon Pegg is in this universe too, because he's been here, for this is his fourth. Yeah, this is his fourth movie that he's been in 4567. He's been great.
Speaker 1:And I mean, obviously Ving Reims has been here the entire time. He's been in each, each and every one of these movies. Obviously ghost protocol was the one he was in the least, but regardless of that, he's been around the whole time. He's fun. I have some thoughts on him in a little bit. But yeah, rebecca Ferguson as well too. She's great, everybody's great, everybody does their job, and then some, and that's all you can really ask for. So Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And then production wise. I mean, you know, behind the scenes, behind the camera, christopher Chris from a queries firing on every single cylinder. Obviously, tom Cruise is a movie star for a reason. That's, the stunt work is just incredible. I watched a little feature right on the Rome sequence, the second act sequence just breathtaking. They made it very evident we're doing everything practically. We're not see, we're not CG anything in, we're not vfxing Any. The only thing we have to vfx it is coverage stuff to cover stuff up. But like all this, like you should see the car mounts they were using and like just nuts, and then putting it in robe on the cop, like on the cobblestone streets, makes it even tougher to drive on that.
Speaker 2:Just it's incredible what they're able to do and you know, in contrast to what we talked about last, we've been Indiana Jones when all the action sequences felt kind of samey. These all feel, they all feel definitive, they all feel very distinct from one another. I mean, you talked about the second act, we'll talk about a born spoilers, but the third act has the same train but two different sequences, two memorable sequences in in, said, in, an, on said train, and then a third, separate, adjacent action sequence away from the train. It's nuts, so yeah, and all things that I can like immediately recall.
Speaker 1:First act has the first act probably has the most mid. I get most mission and possible as action sequence in there too. Yeah, a little bit more espionage in the first act sequence. But you can define this the acts in this movie very easily, like there's there's no bleeding into them. They're very definable. The ending is satisfying, but obviously this is a part one or two. They did a very good job of setting that up. The villain of this movie is very menacing and very in the and the theme and the idea in this movie is just very, very loud at a time. I probably don't want it to be this loud, so yeah, but yeah, so I mean now we can kind of talk spoilers about this.
Speaker 2:I mean all in all, before we dug into spoilers, just highly highly recommend Seeing this movie in a theater.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did not feel like two hours and 43.
Speaker 2:Yeah if you're worried about the runtime, I would say don't be, because, like I said, it doesn't feel it. Everything blends, see, pretty seamlessly from one one movement, one scene to the next. You won't find yourself, you know, check in the time at all, in fact. Like you'll get to the end and you'll be thinking it's the end and it's not actually the end, and then the actual end is gonna come and you're gonna be like that's the end. It's gonna be one of those things. So yeah, it's, it's, it's really really good. It's all I could say about it. Yeah, so hard, hard, hard, hard pungent spoiler territory. First and foremost, shout-out submission of possible for being such a good movie that you can get away with calling your villain the entity Yep.
Speaker 1:So the villain of this movie is essentially AI. It's all wrong. It's all it is all wrong. So it is a Algorithm that in artificial intelligence that they, that the they were using to essentially be the great, like what's better than you know, central intelligence, national intelligence or international intelligence, artificial intelligence, intelligence that doesn't need the human error, that's a lot. And they even say In the sequence, when they're at the whatever you know Virginia CIA place they're at, they talk about they're just like you know the one thing better like now. There's no human to kind of have the the error of making you know any of the mistakes that you know quote Ethan Hunt would make like you can hunt that cares too much about people. So yeah, this AI kind of goes rogue. I love the national Intelligence director. He's such a. This is.
Speaker 1:Kerry Elvis's character right, he's such a scummy guy, but I again main character energy on this guy I love in the room where he's like they talk about the IMF, like Kitch, which is about to go ahead, this is be everybody's like, don't do it. And he's just like you're telling me these people put on different faith. So you're telling me that when you guys don't know how to do something, you send these guys in to do the thing that he's like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, oh. There's so much of that going on in this. There's a there's there's illusions to to cruise going rogue.
Speaker 1:Well, again, yeah, well, they talk they have to turn into ghosts. There's talks about them going rogue, but again, this has so much energy from mission impossible one Down to this sequence, when they're kind of talking about like the ideal of the IMF itself is kind of called in question. Obviously, in three, lawrence fishburn has a lot because Lord fishburn plays this character, the same place character that Angela Datsy plays in fallout, where he's just like Three is like the most like IMF is a part of this organization versus the other ones feel like the IMF is like what, what the heck is this thing? Even. But yeah, I really kind of enjoyed that as well too. So I'm Rebecca Ferguson's back. Yep, she's got this key. It was a fast yes. So there's this. There's a submarine sequence to start the movie. The sub attacks itself because the AI, the AI is AI. In this movie. It's like it's got like an eye that moves around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very like technological eye of sauron vines. Really well, especially when they're at the nightclub in the movie and cruise realizes like, oh my god, the AI is all around us.
Speaker 1:Well, remember, in remembering for Benji talked about that and for he's just like I keep having this nightmare that that an AI is gonna kill us all. This is the AI that's gonna kill us all. So, and he and Benji says in this movie he's like I was right, that was right, yeah. So yeah, they're essentially the plan. Is you know, ethan's like I'm gonna destroy it, like there's no somebody should have this. No, this is good.
Speaker 2:No one man should have all those power.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then Kanye West started playing now. But kids, which is just like, well, you're gonna know, you're gonna get it for us. And Tom's like, well, I'm going rogue nation.
Speaker 2:This is mission impossible. Rogue nation yeah, don't go. Rogue Ethan.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna, and then you start going. You start go. I love the way fallout in this movie gets edited in terms of sequence construction. Fallout still has one of the best on the seek, the middle part sequence with where they're trying to get. What's his name? Sean? What's his name? I forget his name. The character, the villain of of of rogue nation. What's his name? God, god, why?
Speaker 2:can't I remember. It doesn't matter, I have the worst memory Jimmy rogue nation. Nope, that's not it, that's it, that's the one that's not it, I Got it. Don't worry, yeah, he's got it. He's got it. Ladies and gentlemen, give me a second, give him a second.
Speaker 1:Hang on, we still need to get our weight music. Oh uh, lane, solomon Lane.
Speaker 2:Solomon, it's, he's, no, he's no bricks and lore, but he'll do. Anyway, don't let them. Don't get me started on how. This is just fast sex again.
Speaker 1:No Down to. They have a a loud car chase through Rome, large Car, but won't lots of destruction.
Speaker 2:All right, think things that this movie did, that fast-ex did already or a franchise did.
Speaker 1:Car chase the room.
Speaker 2:A submarine under in the Arctic submarine, the Arctic, that that shows up. Yep, god's, I God's eyes in this Inexplicable bridge minds.
Speaker 1:Um clad destined intelligence organization, and I'm not talking about the IMF either. There's another one in this movie.
Speaker 2:There is another one of this. What else is in this? We have a deeply personal retroactive villain, yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, personal retroactive villain. They have friends to take the place of family. Let's get off this. I don't feel good about it. Anyway, again back to my. I was talking about scene construction. Why I talked?
Speaker 2:about you were talking about actual things.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, solomon Lane. Like the sequence where they play out the scenario of if he breaks them out and fall out, yeah, same thing that they do in this movie. They do it really well in the Saudi Arabia sequence when she's in the desert and he kind of goes to find her and like then he breaks into the, the, the government facility, and then they go after what actually happens. Just good stuff, man, really good stuff. I love. I love the physicality Rebecca Ferguson brings as well. I also love the way she pronounces things. Just feels so formal but just so freakin cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, uh, their relationship kind of blossoms. But I like that they don't kind of hover, like, they don't just go full, send into it, like and it's a line that Luther says in this movie you know, spoiler alert she dies in this movie, elsa dies in this movie and Haley Atwell's Grace asked Luther like where you guys close? And he says for in our line of work we were, like for us we were. So it's not like this is Ethan's wife or anything, but like they're as close as two people that could fall in love could be in this line of work, two people that do the same.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
Speaker 1:I really like that little bit where they they get to, they get to Venice. It's just like it's my first time like you can tell that they're like in a not relationship, but they're together, they're in a situation no well. So yeah, ethan, ethan's plan is there's a buyer.
Speaker 1:I gotta go get the key got to authenticate the key two parts to the key yeah but in classic Ethan hub fashion, he's gonna actually sell this person the key to every one of his superiors. You know this may. Why would you give them the thing I want to see where it goes? Just give me, let me cook. But however, there's a thief on the loose pickpocket. So Haley Atwell is introduced. Grace and amazing, slide ahead. The sleight of hand from Mission Impossible One's that, yes, I did not think that was something they were gonna hit home with. Like the sleight of hand was a big piece of Mission Impossible one, and it isn't this, and it's pretty fun.
Speaker 1:Yep, so she's a thief. And now we could talk about Phoebe Wallerbridge versus Haley Atwell.
Speaker 2:They're the same character.
Speaker 1:They are the same exact character, except, oh, haley Atwell is just incredible. They're both good, yes, both great, but Character wise, better written, oh, infinitely better. Like she's got. She got like morals. Like she's got like a moral compass. Like she's got. Yeah, she's just so much more likeable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I it just and like when a traumatic thing happens, she actually, like, has a reckoning.
Speaker 1:Is she know she's in over her head A dead reckoning? Yeah, come on, man.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, that's the other thing, like it. Look, I have no issue with how Phoebe Wallerbridge's character was portrayed in Indiana Jones, like she was super capable good everything fine, like, but I also liked how Haley Atwell was like really good at this one thing and Horrible at everything else.
Speaker 1:What was the thing? She was horrible at the intelligence part of this, like the mission impossible part of it. And driving and drive horrible. It's great Like giving your character like one thing that like you know what makes Indiana Jones so great. I hate snakes like this guy that's not afraid to jump out of planes or fight Nazis, just hate snakes. Like giving your character like one thing they're just very not good at is sometimes really fun. Like Haley, I will. Could not like she, just she's like I'm not driving.
Speaker 2:You could drive in the cool thing too about where this movie ends up, because spoiler.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, it's such a good old courage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because spoiler, this is a two-parter. So this movie and she, she signs up. Yeah, she joins the INF, which is so when part two starts, she's gonna be like Tom Cruise, like she's gonna have the, the capabilities because she's gonna be having been true, she'll probably be having been trained like office green, that character, and when we see grace again in part two, she's gonna be super capable.
Speaker 1:So something I really like is like how all of them have one thing like Ethan's the field special and like that, something Talk about in one, like when they were going over the team which Emilio Estivis gets killed in the first 15 minutes of that movie, like he's been. He's the tech guy, like in this, like obviously Ben cheese, like the Hmm, he even goes further in my point about Luther. I'm gonna make they have two tech guys. They don't need two tech guys. Yeah, sums up. But she's like the sleight of hand pickpocket. I can get anything you guys need off a person. Yeah, which is really good. So Elsa was British intelligence, but she was kind of like a wild card essentially. But yeah, they all have like discernible things they can do, but they still, like Benji grew like Benji can now do field ops, to his dismay sometimes.
Speaker 2:But yeah, to quote, to quote a butcher from the boys the spice girls. They are the spice girls. Let's pop spice up to these days.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the. Yeah the airport sequence is really great.
Speaker 2:Classic SB and I spy stuff the nuclear bomb yeah.
Speaker 1:And that Benjy, there is, yeah but the AI, the entity that tricky AI. Yeah, but there's a guy in the airport named Gabriel, from Ethan's past before the IMF. So a big plot point that they keep pushing is Dominic Reyes, big Dominic, played by Deathstroke from Titans.
Speaker 2:Yes, shout out a sigh Morales yeah he was great.
Speaker 1:He was great. His voice is just so incredible. Yes, which I. He gives off. Bond villain vibes to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he also gives off like suave, like Clooney Vods Mm-hmm Also yeah get him including in a movie together. Oh yeah, that's gonna do either Batman, batman and deathstroke.
Speaker 1:But yeah, he's there and you find out, he's from Ethan's past and all and again, the big plot point that they were trying to push is all of them had a pass before the IMF. Luther, I Can't wait, I can't wait. But yeah, everybody's had a pass before the IMF. So Ethan's past before the IMF Was with this Gabriel. Gabriel killed we don't know who this woman is he just killed a woman that Ethan cares for, so pulling on a plot thread, but check off his gun and gets fired later.
Speaker 1:So, good job, good job, christopher, you know how to write, yeah. So yeah, we do a cool airport sequence with a lot of bait and switches, and this is where we get introduced to the clandestine. We don't, I think they even call it. What do they call it? They call it like shadow group or something. I don't know what they call it, but essentially it's just like a government. You know, it's just. It's probably just like your ex military guys that are just private, contracted by, you know, by the CIA.
Speaker 1:Go get Ethan, this guy's of all, he gives the same monologue also that Alan richen gives in Jaxx. This man is a master of espionage, he's a ghost, and the only way that I will know that he is dead is there's a wooden stake driven through his heart Good stuff, and he always goes rogue. Yeah, and do they know each other? I Guess I think they're gonna do something in the next movie because it feels, because it was that look that he gave him in Rome. They, I feel like they cuz, and then coyote from Top Gun Mavericks in this movie. Yep, who's he? I don't know if you got this, but he feels very what Jeremy Renner was. I feel like he's gonna be the person that, like him, and Paris are gonna join, are gonna join the IMF, essentially in the next year, cuz he's like, he's like.
Speaker 2:What if Ethan's the main character?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what if Ethan's doing this to save everybody?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like his partner's, like shut up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you're the young gun. You're the young Top Gun, relax. But yeah, they're chasing them throughout the airport. Luther's doing a little Bain switch where, yeah, he's tricking the satellites to make the their facial recognition thing. It's Ethan, whether it's just a innocent Italian man being attacked? Yeah, relax, guys. And yeah, gabriel shows up, but his glasses trick, his AI glasses trick out. Can't see me. He's John Cena. He can't say him. So, yeah, the key is lost. Oh, no, taley Atwell is gone. Grace is gone. She goes to Rome. Second act Wolf. Yeah, wolf, he's a lawyer. He impersonates her lawyer. They break out. She breaks out away from him and he's like can you relax, calm down, I'm gonna. I'm trying to save your life because you know you're, this isn't just pickpocket territory. You've pickpocketed the wrong pickpocket people. So, and then the rope sequence starts, and this is side a of the rope sequence. So, poof this car. All practical car chase throughout there.
Speaker 2:Um, they put pom-clementine fin a big truck yeah okay.
Speaker 1:So pom-clementine shows up cooking as Paris. A spoiler alert she's the heat check performance of this movie. She is an issue.
Speaker 2:She's like if a horror movie villain dropped into a mission impossible movie. Yeah, she is a mad woman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just an issue.
Speaker 2:She's like if you gave a barbarian a tank.
Speaker 1:She's got all like her skill trees all unlocked, like she's got fighting, she's got driving, she's got everything unlocked Um yeah, she is a crazy woman, she's it's a problem like she's driving just barreling. Well, she kills those guys immediately. She's just like and she's just like get me to him right now.
Speaker 2:She's barreling through cop cars, civilian cars just screaming.
Speaker 1:Oh, she's like smiling and screaming the whole way. It's great, incredible, amazing. Obviously she's work. She's Gabriel's right-hand woman, yeah, um. So yeah, she's trying to get after Ethan. The parish police are trying to stop Ethan and the clandestine order in the military guys Are trying to stop Ethan. So he's like why got we got to go? Man I just an incredible sequence, incredibly constructed, really well thought out. Yeah, very, it's got big mission impossible vibes, but just great practical vibes to it as well too. The car, the little yellow car, big 1960s vision impossible energy, great stuff.
Speaker 1:Um so, yeah, haley, grace escapes, ethan's like it, Benji and Luther meet up with him. They're just like, oh, and who's also there? Yep, oh, so there's there, else is there. And he told Elsa stay dead. I need you to stay dead. I'm not gonna go in Rome, I'm going. I'm going with you because I like you. At the very least, I like you. I'm going rogue, I'm going rogue Go and rogue nation, which I showed up. Man, her introduction in rogue nation was, yeah, perfect. But yeah, they go to meet out, they go to meet. What's your name? Why?
Speaker 2:white widow, yeah, who was played by Vanessa redgrave in the first movie Mm-hmm. Same character, yep.
Speaker 1:Wait, no, it's Vanessa Kirby both times.
Speaker 2:She's the well. She's the daughter of the original arms dealer from one oh.
Speaker 1:My bad, my bad, yeah, yeah I. I'm thinking From from fallout, not from the first one. Yeah, but yes, like you said, it's the original daughter, which is really good, yeah, so yeah, we are now, and now it's tense. This is the talking. That way, they were talking about all the reviews for this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, too much talk.
Speaker 1:No, it's good stuff. Yeah it's really tense. I love the fact that she doesn't know that that's Ethan. She still think that's John Lark and they did and that's my all spoiled, my favorite joke or bed. She's just like. She still thinks you're John Lark and Ethan's like. How did he know I'm not John Lark and Benji's like.
Speaker 2:He goes you think you're. She still thinks you're John Lark, international mass murderer. And he's like how do you know, I'm not.
Speaker 1:She's like.
Speaker 2:We don't know who anybody is. We don't, we don't if you, man, if you weren't, if you were tired of mission impossible, face swapping. I got bad news for you.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's so much face swapping, so yeah, they have a. So there there's a. Here's the debate. So this AI is all-knowing and Gabriel's essentially the.
Speaker 2:Messenger yeah he's the.
Speaker 1:What's the best way to put it? He's the. He's the, the iron fist of the.
Speaker 2:He's like the. He's like the silver surfer. Right yeah, he's the.
Speaker 1:He's the Herald of the AI, so he's just like, yeah, he's all-knowing and like. Ethan pulls the Obi-Wan from Episode three yeah, you're in. You're a psychotic fanatic.
Speaker 2:You sound like an idiot because, gabriel's like it's a probability matrix. Like the AI, the entity has has seen all. It Calculates every your moves before you make them and by the end of the night, one of the two women you love are going to die. Yeah, what needs to happen? Ethan's like we'll see about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, guess what? Yeah, he was right yeah and then this is an SSI be. So there's a, there's a little chase sequence, so everybody escapes, gabriel escapes, and then you know, ethan's like I well, I gotta go, I gotta go after, I gotta go try to get the key, I gotta get to her. And he's just like Gabriel's just waiting there on the bridge.
Speaker 2:She's just like what we do now we wait, main character.
Speaker 1:so Grace is escaping with the key, obviously because she's still a thief. She just wants to get out of this, essentially, and just make her money and just escape, yeah, turn into a ghost, yep. So yeah, they're Ethan's right. Oh, if you didn't think Tom Cruise was gonna run Probably some of the best running in this franchise yes good running.
Speaker 1:It's just it's well shot. So you're running through like the categories, running through like the streets in Rome, but, Benji, but take it over by the AI. The AI is giving them false sections and then, lo and behold, Grace gets to Gabriel. They fight. Grace is actually not a bad fighter, which kind of makes sense where she's still outmatched, but she's like scrappy, Exactly Like she can still hold her own. So she's got the bones. But you know who's an actual real good fighter? Elsa, Ah, no man. What he gives, this is one of the best part this might be my best part of the movie when he's just like I was holding it with you and then the score starts to kick up and then he's like silhouetteed, running through like the hallways in Rome. I'm like this is the truest form of cinema I've ever. This is insane. Oh yeah, so it's incredible. The fight sequences are well done. They're shot in the wide so you can kind of see what's going on. There's not a million cuts, Thank God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's always like they do a good job of volume back and forth between the fight and crews running.
Speaker 1:Because it's like is he going to get there in time?
Speaker 2:And no yeah Is the answer yeah.
Speaker 1:So Gabriel kills Elsa and you know Ethan's like, oh man, that shot that, like shoulder shot they do. It's my favorite shot Close to the head, where he's walking up to Elsa like shell shocked, because I mean, he already kind of went through this, like obviously one of my favorite villains from this franchise is Philip Seymour Hoffman and three, you know, killing his wife for what he thought in the beginning of the third one. Like he cut, he probably thought about that. He thought about Marie, which we don't know much about, but we know it's a woman that he cared about that was killed by Gabriel. So again he's like not again.
Speaker 2:Gabriel had this conversation with. Grace earlier, where he's like, this is what happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me tell you your story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like women, he claims to hear about always die, and he was right.
Speaker 1:He was right, he is right. So, yeah, elsa's dead. And then they caught when they cut back to the shot of, you know, instead of the nice sunset in Venice, they cut back to the same shot of just him leading over the act. I'm like what are we man, yeah, cooking. And then into the third act. And then here is where India this is where Helena should have had her heel turn and Indiana Jones, which Grace has immediately. She's just like I'm sorry, what can I? I did this, I did this.
Speaker 2:What can I do, and then Ving Reims ultimately goes like this is the Mission Impossible movie. Yeah, and Ving Reims like immediately is like no, like this, you didn't cause this, like this happened to you. And now it's the classic case of like you didn't cause this, this is happening to you. Now, what are you?
Speaker 1:going to do about it? With great power, with great thievery, comes great responsibility.
Speaker 2:Like that's basically what this sequence is. It's like OK, you're in this, now what are you going to do about it? And it takes some coaxing let's take some coaxing to get her on board.
Speaker 1:Well, another big piece to add is just like well, this is the lore moment. This is, like you know, a spoiler. Like each of us had a moment in our life, like we are not amazing people in this room. We each had things that we did, but we were offered a choice. Like it's either you have three choices you go to prison for the rest of your life, you get killed or you join. That's your choice.
Speaker 2:You choose to accept you join the Assassin's Creed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no wrong movie. You join the Morbiuses. So, yeah, she gets her choice. And then here's the plan. Well, gabriel talks about it. He's like I don't need the key right now, I'm going to get it tomorrow. It's going to drop at my feet on the Orianyx. I love the fact that that train was called the Orian Express.
Speaker 2:Yeah, great.
Speaker 1:You know what this movie felt like? A little bit Felt like the way that I felt about no time to die, like it had the Mission Impossible, mission Impossible stuff in there, but also being serious about itself, yeah. So yeah, the choice is she's going to impersonate the white widow, her and her brother. They're going to get on the train. They're going to get the key. They're going to escape. Yep, give me the famous Leonard Start line from the Flash.
Speaker 2:Make the plan, execute the plan, expect the plan to go off the rails, throw away the plan.
Speaker 1:Exactly what happens. So magically, while they're trying to make both masks, the brother's mask fails, so she has to go in alone. Ethan's going to find another way. Isn't there a big stunt that's supposed to happen in these movies?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you might be sitting there watching this movie, thinking to yourself where's the base jumping stunt? Yeah, it's coming.
Speaker 1:It's coming, give it a second. They really build up to it too. They really try to get you there. So, yeah, they get to the train. She's by herself. And who's on the frickin' train? There's two people on the train.
Speaker 2:There's heaps of people on the train actually.
Speaker 1:Every main character is on the train. Yeah, that train is really famous, so yeah, it's a real Orient Express appeal.
Speaker 2:It is a real Orient Express.
Speaker 1:So Kichrich is on the train. So you learn that he's the buyer. He's the buyer, but Kichrich isn't the evil one, but it's just, it's still Kichrich. You know what I mean. But you find out who the evil one in that room it was the. It's Kerry Elwes. Yeah, it was the national intelligence director as the evil one. So, essentially what he's going to do, he's going to turn America into a super state. He's going to kill anybody in the government that doesn't want this and doesn't want the AI, and he's going to team up with Gabriel.
Speaker 2:He's the one who blew up the Russian sub Right?
Speaker 1:Yep. Well, he was just supposed to send a warning to the Russian sub, but then, for reasons we cannot understand, the AI took over, killed it. He said it overachieved, it took out everybody on that sub and I'm the only man on planet Earth who knows where the sub is.
Speaker 2:And Gabriel was like you gave me too much information. Now you're dead. Now you're dead.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that little turn he has, because it's a good piece of movie making when he's just like I knew you would betray me and in your head you're like he's talking to the National Intelligence Director, but then he keeps turning and I'm like why are you turning towards Paris? She didn't do anything. He's just like, well, you're going to betray me because I'll let you live. Oh, she could fight, she could hold her own, but she gets stabbed. Why did I get stabbed? So, yeah, she gets stabbed. Who else is on this train? Kitchwich is there. Vanessa Kirby's on the train. Vanessa Kirby's there. What do we call the two of them? They're just the agents. Yeah, the agents are there. Old agents and young agent are there. Ethan Hunt is not there.
Speaker 2:Ethan Hunt's not, but he's trying to get there and he keeps missing the train.
Speaker 1:Yes, Meanwhile, I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it because it's just so sweet. So yeah, ethan's just like Benji, get me on the train. He's just like I have an idea. Why don't you jump off this cliff and land on the train? Parachute, parachute on the train. And he's just like well, I didn't do a big stunt for this movie, let's do it. I'm Tom Cruise, damn it. And then they do it.
Speaker 2:The woof. It's like being on a roller coaster. It's nuts. Save it when he jumps and the music cuts out and he's just free falling. It's Now I'm free.
Speaker 1:They should have played that I would have played.
Speaker 2:It's just an adrenaline rush when he does that. And then, yeah, pretty much Haley Atwell almost goes into business for herself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, she has the white widow's face on. So she goes to Kitchrich. Kitchrich is just like well, you're going to give me the full, completed key and I'm going to give you $100 million and you're going to dispense this into account of your choosing. She's just like oh, I know my accounting information off the top of my head.
Speaker 2:And she also says, as Vanessa Kirby, you're going to basically white graces, slate, clean Yep and Kitchrich is like this is an oddly specific request, but but fine, yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, she gets there, she gets all the money. It's at 100% completion. But she's just like I'm actually not a horrible person. Decline Steals the key back from Kitchrich and then the actual white widow comes in and then I'm oh man, that was a good bit when Kitchrich is just like he turns his old. He's just like go after her. He's like who the other one? You idiot, go after the other one. You discounted Tom Hardy. Yeah, that is big discount. That's great value, tom Hardy. But yeah, so Action ensues. She's at her wit's end. Zola's just like put the key down or I'll shoot you. She puts the key down, shoot her again.
Speaker 2:Shoot her anyway.
Speaker 1:And then Tom Cruise busts through the window and murders that one guy, and then knocks Zola out, and then put the trains on a runaway train, of course, and then big big fight.
Speaker 2:It's nonstop now. It's nonstop with a whatever. Whoever's in that movie, not nonstop. That's the plain one. This is a train one. What's the runaway train one? Oh, unstoppable, that's it. Yep, now it's unstoppable Right.
Speaker 1:So they have their fight. So Gabriel's fighting. You know what one thing I actually appreciate? Usually in this situation, it's like necessary that the villain, because you're this deep into the front. I like the fact that Ethan's so capable. He's already been through so much where, hand to hand, he's kind of almost impenetrable. Hand to hand, he hasn't really come up against this match hand to hand, which makes sense. But Gabriel's so formidable himself. He's got his knives, his staple knives at this point. So yeah, and they had a little conversation, Luther and him. This is why I really like Ving Ring's character in this franchise, because this is kind of like this is where he stays.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm going to ask you a question, not as agents, but as your friend Once you get to Gabriel, what are you going to do? Because we need to know what this key unlocks. This will not mean anything. And he's like I'm going to bring him in. Guess what he doesn't do. He goes right through the jugular. He's just like I'm going to kill you. You killed my love interest, Rebecca Ferguson. You killed the side dean of the Fremen, you jerk. But the agents show up.
Speaker 2:Put it down, hut Put it down, you put that gun down.
Speaker 1:You put that gun down. Aw man, they should have got Tommy Lee Jones in this franchise, especially off the back of the Fugitive 2. That would have played you put that gun down.
Speaker 2:This man killed my wife. I did not kill.
Speaker 1:Elsa Faust. You put that gun down there. Aw man, wesley Snipes was in that movie. He is Um, but yeah. So Kitchrich tells them go get Hunt, because I'm not really here, so I'm going to tell you what to do. But then Hunt's just like look, all these people on this train are going to die. I'm the main character, so you guys are going to listen to me. That might be the funniest bit where they go back and Kittries just like I just tell you guys to do, do something else. And he leaves it just like since you're not really here, sir, I don't have to listen to you, idiot. And then he walks away. True story, true story, bro.
Speaker 1:And then the high drinks, the mission impossible high drinks ensue, so that there's. But, oh man, it is fast, it's fast-ex, so there's bombs, like the consistency playing bombs. Uh, gabriel escapes right before this. He's got the key. He's got the key, or Does? He slid a hand for mission impossible ones back, so Ethan really has the key. I love that, I love that good stuff. But there's bombs. So now, no matter if you get to stop the train, it's, it's going off the rails. Good stuff. Oh man, the high drinks is great. That's like each car has a different obstacle. It's like a video game, like each car has a different thing you have to beat to get to the next car and each car, train, car gets difficult and more difficult. Yeah, the food cars hilarious, because they almost start spilling, so they start slipping and everything lights on fire.
Speaker 1:And then they escape and then there's a piano that's gonna fall on them. I do quite like the bit where, like she wouldn't let go of him, he's just like, well, grace, I have to jump the other side to save your life. She's like yep. She's like nope, nope. But blow and behold who saves them. Paris saves them. She comes in, she holds Ethan, and then a pretty emotional bit. She's just like why did you save me?
Speaker 2:and then she tells him you know I'm gonna set you up for dead bracketing part. Yeah, Tom Cruise, yeah it's on a sub.
Speaker 1:He's like a submarine. A subway, so no, a submarine. Oh, that makes more sense. I mean like if that's kind of what happens, but the agents show back up, the good coyote from Top Gun goes. She's still alive, so she can be a part of the IMF with me in the next movie. And then Tom Cruise is like deuces Kitchwich comes back and Haley's and Grace is just like well, I accept. And he's just like Other guy.
Speaker 2:other guy has a shot at Tom Cruise he doesn't take it.
Speaker 1:I think they know each other.
Speaker 2:Tom Cruise does a little spinny bit on a parachute. You know what?
Speaker 1:I would love for his character Like I guarantee you, both of them were going for the same position in the IMF and Tom Cruise being him out.
Speaker 2:Should that character been played by Matt Dylan? What about Matt Damon?
Speaker 1:Nah, matt Damon's too famous. Oh yeah, matt Dylan would have been kind of funny, but yeah, I that would be fun. More that, like he beat him out for that spot. Yeah, and I like the beat like the Bravo Echo 11 Designator, like that's who he was supposed to. He's done my job.
Speaker 2:But then, yeah, you're right, haley out well, goes up to Kitchwick and she's like I wanted. I want to do a mission impossible, yeah, and then it's a great.
Speaker 1:This is actually a really satisfying ending because Kitchwich launches into his you know, the IMF like should you choose to accept speech? It's really good stuff. And, yeah, we pan into the sub. That's the movie. Good stuff. It's real good. Let's give out some categories. Yeah, and I'm ending with my theory. Okay, I'm ready. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. New, new category. I know something. New categories. That's gadget. Best gadget of the gas, the knockout gas. That's good.
Speaker 2:I like the, the, the, the infrared glasses, mm-hmm. He was using to track the, the key good stuff and also track facial recognition Sure Good stuff.
Speaker 1:What's your other one? Did you have to?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, I did have. I did have another one inspired by a, inspired by secret invasion. Oh yeah, it's, it's the, it's the, the James Rhodes, you earned all this smoke brother.
Speaker 1:Who earned all this smoke? Who comes to hands?
Speaker 2:I would say that hallway.
Speaker 1:Seek the the.
Speaker 2:I think I was gonna say I think, carrie, I was got all that brought. All the smoke was to goons did. Yeah, I think I was on all the smoke.
Speaker 1:They definitely earn that smoke. They, they. They unfortunately Took advantage of Paris and then she immediately murdered both. Yeah, you're right, is them the most satisfying murders of human people? They did earn that smoke, they did earn that smoke, and then he earned this. You know why he owned her in that smoke? Because he gave away his whole plan.
Speaker 2:He did give it to the super villain. That was the super villain of the movie. So I'm proud to announce Carrie, I was. You earned all this smoke brother.
Speaker 1:What a category. Let's do it best.
Speaker 2:Relationship oh, I'm gonna sit, I'm gonna say Tom Cruise and his mates. Tom Cruise is makes good having rames and Simon Pegg um.
Speaker 1:I am gonna. I'm gonna say Kitchard and Ethan. I don't know why it's. It is just it's such payoff to one and like I don't know what the relationship is, that's why I like it so much.
Speaker 2:I like Tom Cruise and his mates because of the bit when in the airport, when he's like nothing, nothing bad going on here, ethan, there just might be a nuke at the airport, he's like there's one thing you get to bother me with that's a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1:How much time? We got 20 seconds. Ethan's like no he was like.
Speaker 2:He was like. I do what he was like, what we didn't want to bother you. You seem busy, he's like. If there's anything you can bother me with, it's a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1:Most underrated character.
Speaker 2:Most underrated character, I'm gonna say Vanessa Kirby's character.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's good, she's good stuff.
Speaker 2:She gave off like she was very like interesting, yeah, yep, like every scene she was in, yeah, she felt like, even if she wasn't totally in control, she exuded control and that's what you want out of like a crime boss person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm gonna say Benji's the most underrated character. I just really like what son peg does with that character. Obviously he has a good relationship with, with, with Tom Cruise, with bad robot Essentially was, like you know, he's into this, so I think he does really well. I just love how, about how capable he is now and he feels like Reactions, reactionary, the best character out of all of them. Like he's actually like this. This crap is real. He's that. He's the odd man of that character. Yeah, most heroic moment.
Speaker 2:The train, end of the train, sure cruising grace train car hopping.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go. Elsa giving her life for grace, that's, that's a good one. Yeah, best bit the agents. The endless pursuit of the agents, and they just can't get it.
Speaker 2:They just can't get it. Yeah, can't get on. And then I mean Tom Cruise, running is always a good. Yeah, it's good stuff.
Speaker 1:Favorite cameo it's Kitchrich yeah the only cameo, the only cameo best set oh.
Speaker 2:Probably probably the streets of Rome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, streets of Rome was good. I do quite like the, the Saudi Arabia bit, yeah, desert and that little rundown place that also like the the nightclub nightclub was good. It's almost like the sets are good in this movie. That's yeah right. It's crazy crazy how that works. I best one V1 or best you know, 1v1, 2v1. Grayson Gabriel on the bridge Gabriel is good, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Paris in the, in the henchmen, versus, versus Ethan and not in the alley. Oh, that alley fight is is money.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's classic, like it's classic cruise, like mission impossible, like he keeps trying to get out of a situation. They keep pulling him back in. Yep, yeah, I like that a lot. But the grace Gabriel fight is really good too.
Speaker 1:It's just that score starts. I'm like this is this is cinema, this is it Best. Heat check performance pop coming to?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's easy funniest moment. I, that nuclear bomb bit popped me quite a bit. I got that made me laugh. Hmm. Also, I loved, I love. I don't know if it's it might be ad-libbing by Cruz, but like there's times where, like Ethan gets exasperated, he's like Mean. I don't know that's like ad-libbing, but like it feels like he's like, like, like the frustration, just like overcomes him. He's like oh, for Christ's sake.
Speaker 1:I like the bit where Benji loses it finally, and she's like I'm under a lot of stress. You're starting to piss me off, tom Cruz.
Speaker 2:I like the bit where Vingraems ass Asked Ethan the riddle just unprompted.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's like no reason. Best exposition dump.
Speaker 2:I had it when I was watching it and I lost it. I feel like I think it's when Gabriel is explaining the, the, the entity to them and the nightclub, because it's just nonsense.
Speaker 1:It is nonsense, but it also it's just very loud at this point in our lives. It's very evident and I don't like it.
Speaker 2:I also kiss a kiss, rick. Not explaining what the IMF is is also good.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say that whole CIA, that old, and I guess it's the end. I don't know what it is. The national intelligence bit yeah, it's pretty good because it's just it's. It's not the fact that Kitchards is explaining it, it's the, it's the NIA director. Being like this is Ludicrous he's acting.
Speaker 1:He's actively not explaining it, yeah, but also I love everybody in the room like don't do it. It's don't do it because he's gonna think you're psychotic when you do it. Best source material callback the Dutch angles, dutch angles, angles are back. Is this, kitchard, just the best source material?
Speaker 2:callback yeah, Probably yeah, because it's yeah, it's the callback.
Speaker 1:It is the callback Best NPC. The agent see agents just as a duo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the two of them.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say the guy, the, the IMF agent, like the Ricky IMF at the beginning of the movie, where you didn't know what's going on. It's just a perfect contrast to see where he was in one versus where he is in seven.
Speaker 2:It's just those ages, just because of the one exchange they have in the train. He's like this hunt always go. Like it's hunt going rogue right now and the other guys like he always goes wrong.
Speaker 1:I mean best musical moment. It's the bridge sequence where, yeah, great stuff it's. It is the best bit of that score in that movie. What Lauren Balfe has done, what the score adapting it, um, and this franchise has had Hans Zimmer. It's had Michael Gekino in it, like it's had the a list of a list composers, yeah, and I think he might have the best helm. It's like it's almost like a I mean fallout does it better in the opinion, but it's like almost like a haunting feeling to it, mm-hmm, but even better way to explain it.
Speaker 1:You feel like a gravitas when you're listening to Lauren Balfe's version of the score, I think it feels very grand and it feels very like you know Pop and circumstance big time like scoring, so really enjoy that Favorite line.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a good one, mm-hmm. I mean, I do like the line that Kitchock has our lives are the sum of our choices and we cannot escape the past, because that's you know it's the line you put in the trailer.
Speaker 1:Yep, mm-hmm. I kind of like the line that Ethan gives. It's very simple, but just like it doesn't matter where you go, it doesn't matter like I, if you, I will kill you. Like I, I'm Ethan Hunt and you are doll this smoke brother.
Speaker 2:He gave real is probably winning that award when we get to part two, though, yeah, oh oh yeah, favorite, or is it the entity's gonna win that award?
Speaker 1:You did the entity dinner on this smoke Favorite, world building or lore moment.
Speaker 2:Just the creation of the entity, I think.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go for mine. It's the addition of grace into the IMF. I just think it was handled very, very, very gracefully. For lack of a better time, come on. It's too easy man, I'm sorry, favorite shot.
Speaker 2:The bit after Elsa does and it's kind of silhouette. Good, it captures a feeling which you know. I've said this before all my favorite shots always capture a feeling and that definitely captures a feeling in that moment. Yep.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna just go to the. The smoke silhouette of him running through the hallways is just Expertly done, mixed with like the score ramping up and ramping up and like again we didn't know how close he was or how far he was. We just know that he, what you just know he's not gonna make it in time and it's like it's the physicality of the bit like he I've this man has ran in every single one of these movies, but I felt that run the most out of any of the runs that he'd made, like that one. You felt something on that run because it's like you generally feel like this, this is it like you're not gonna make it in time. Like emotionally, that that felt a lot. It was a bit they showed off in the trailer and I was like this movie looks really good too. So yeah, I'm gonna pick that Favorite performance.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm gonna also pick Haley at. Well, I think she's. She's great, she has flaws, she has strengths, she's an actual character, she has an arc, she has a discernible arc and it's really well done, where she's just a, you know, a thief, a capable thief, and now she's a part of the IMF, incredibly a part of the IMF. So really well done.
Speaker 1:It's not like a fact that like they throw her in to save her life, like she's actually capable, like she's probably one of the best sleight of hand people we've seen yeah, and maybe that's the best source material callback, the sleight of hand from that Actively want to see that care yeah. I want to see how she like. I want to see her on the team now.
Speaker 1:Like I want to see her with the rest of them. Yeah, um, favorite character, grace, grace. Grace is good, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna go with Elsa, probably Just cuz where, where she came from Rogue one, like she is nation, or rogue nation, rogue on From rogue nation To now, like she. I like the fact, like I just keep thinking about the launch he had and fought like you, or in rogue nation, like you should have came. You should have come with me, or in fall out like you should have. You should have come with me. We could have gotten, like we could have had like a life Essentially outside of this, but you, just you couldn't, you couldn't get out of here. Um, and what happens to her is she's, she does she kind of he'll turns and she's the one that he told her to say Dead and she couldn't because of him, she, she had to make sure that he was safe. So I Quite enjoy her Favorite, favorite moment or scene.
Speaker 2:Man super tough. There's a lot I you know it might be kind of lost in the action sequence, but when they're doing the the piano bit, I like that a lot because it it really captures there how much their relationship has grown. Like she's still terrified but ultimately she ends up trusting him. So I really like that moment and I like the moment you talked about when like he's like y'all let me, y'all let me jump and like she's like okay, okay, okay. And then she's like no, like it's very like real Mm-hmm. I like that that. I mean that whole extended train escape is tremendous, but like that particulars moment is uh, is really really good, good stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna probably pick. I. I mean, I can't stop thinking about that. That's the part B of the Rome sequence. Like you know, the ultimate death of Elsa's is held, handled really well. Shows how formidable that Gabriel is. Showed how great Elsa was like I love how she was kind of fencing him essentially to you feel the physicality of the fights too and it's just like it's just the last Stitch effort of Ethan trying to get there too is just it's just yeah, really well done for his character. And then I saved one, actually, and I saved the best action sequence for our last one.
Speaker 2:Oh, man, jesus, I mean that Rome, the Rome sequence is special both car chases Into the subway, chase into the hallway or into the alley, chases in the bridge sequence. But if I had just isolated I would say, uh, probably the that. Both train sequences in conjunction, like Ethan versus Gabriel on the top of the train and then the extended train escape.
Speaker 1:You're the train ending from mission impossible one. Yeah, you didn't think they were bringing it back. Um, I'm probably gonna. I'm gonna specific. If I have to isolate one again, I'll pick the specific condensed hallway fight is just right, great hand-to-hand. There's not a billion cuts in that fight. Um, there's a really quick pan where, like Paris puts it, like she does the high kick and like just that little weave he did, like it's just, it's good stuff, like Great hand-to-hand stuff. Um, and it's it is difficult to do hand-to-hand. I mean, I feel like we've been so spoiled. John Wick, where, like that should just be the x-wixt, like why is not every? But like it's difficult to do believable hand-to-hand because these actors aren't trained for hand-to-hand combat. They're actors, um, but I do really appreciate what they were able to do too. So, yeah, it's, it's really good. Um, and then, as an extension, the Rome, a Rome part, part one the car chase is just phenomenal.
Speaker 2:You want to dive into the, into your theory now? Yes, time me give, me give me three minutes. All right, you got it. You got the floor.
Speaker 1:Who was? Who was the only member of their team that wasn't there in the third act? Luther? Who's the? Who's the one member of their team who was like the superior hacker at everybody You're doing you doing the home landers?
Speaker 2:deep bit to be right now. Well, deep, go ahead. What can I see through? Go ahead. Do it. Zinc homelander. Yeah, who's the what's the box made of? Deep?
Speaker 1:Yeah, correct again so who's the master hacker of their team? Luther, homelander Luther. So Luther wasn't there during the third act. What does Luther ask him in the? In the in the prelude to to the third act, he asked him what are you gonna do to Gabriel Mm-hmm? You can't kill him, ethan.
Speaker 1:You make sure you get out of anything. You can't kill him, mm-hmm. My theory is that Luther was the one that made this AI, and what was one thing that kept hammering home in this movie is what was everybody doing? Everybody was doing something before they got to the IMF. I think Luther made this AI before he got to the IMF. I think he either a forgot about it or B he said this is too much for me to handle right now, I'm just gonna let it all. And I joined the IMF, so I kind of let it alone, mm-hmm. And then somebody else took it and perfected it. So I think that Luther is the inceptive, as the inceptor of this, of this AI that's meant to destroy everybody. And it also added my theory what movie did they influence the most out of any of these mission impossible movies? For this one, one, yep, mission impossible one of the new team that Ethan had, and mission impossible one who was the one person that didn't portray him from the new team Luther, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yet I Think it's Luther that made this AI. It was just very suspicious that he's like I have to go to a place where the AI I can't find. This is where I stop, this is where I need, like where you. Would you not be useful at any point in that third act? I think you would have been pretty useful, luther. You've been useful in every other movie. I think you could have helped quite a bit in that third act of that movie.
Speaker 1:It's just very weird that he needed to leave at that point and it was in hoots. And what did Luther tell him in that, in that prelude to the third act? He said you need to start thinking like the AI. He was the friend when they were trying to diffuse the bomb. Luther was very, go ahead and tell it exactly what it needs to know. Benji, hmm, hmm, hmm, I like it.
Speaker 1:I think Luther has a little bit more to do with and it would just be because who's been the longest-eared member of that team besides Ethan? It's? Luther was the only other person that's been with him the whole time, and the AI kind of knows and I think about mission impossible, three on top of that, who had the biggest discourse about Ethan's wife? It was Luther. Luther said Ethan, I don't, I don't know about this. Ethan, I like what he's cooking. I don't know, I don't know. It's just the fact that this AI is like all-knowing and Luther just seems very prophetic To all the stuff that they usually talk about in this movie than those movies. I don't know if he's necessarily the villain of this, but I just think Luther knows about this AI. Oh my god, what if they break into the room and Luther's in there when they break into the submarine and eight?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, I do, I do enjoy, I do enjoy what's being cooked here.
Speaker 1:Luther's sus, something's going on, man. And they kept saying remember that little bit they had in the movie where they they had that argument. They were just like who's the better, like hacker, and Luther just like me, and it's not even easy, like they said. Luther, how are you able to do that? I just, I just, I just can, hmm, hmm, yeah, I was hacking faster than I can. Then I can hack satellites.
Speaker 2:What a way to end that. Hmm, what? Just just just let me lose that mission impossible.
Speaker 1:One bit that got me because I was just like John Voight was evil, um, the John Voight's wife and that wife in that movie was evil. And then Lee on the professional that I can't remember his name from the movie was evil and Luther was the only one out of all of them that had no all terrier mode. It's that of everybody. Sums up he knows something. Does he know? Does he? I think he does know.
Speaker 2:I think he definitively knows. Yes.
Speaker 1:Get us out of here. Man, damn Thanks, comes after me.
Speaker 2:I love that great there. I'm gonna earmark this and we'll see what happens when a dead reckoning part two comes out. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Luther sums up man.
Speaker 2:Something he knows, something does he know. What does he know? What's he cooking?
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying like I think Luther got something, he just knows something.
Speaker 2:Well, until we find out what that something is, you can follow us on Twitter at project INF underscore pod, not project IMF Projects. I am underscore bond.
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Speaker 1:Season 3 Jonathan Kent's recast new Jonathan Kent.
Speaker 2:Same good stuff, same good. Same good move movie. The same good TV show. Tyler heckling continues to be just a fantastic iteration of Clark Kent and it's so simple.
Speaker 1:It just. It's just a show about a family Going through family trials and tribulations, and this one is no different.
Speaker 2:It's one of the heaviest yeah most emotional. Yeah, so well, I'm excited to talk about that show because we only did season one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we didn't even talk season 2 season 2 has the most like Comic booky stuff in it and a lot of the stuff from season 2 comes back around, particularly the end of season 3, which we'll talk about next week.
Speaker 2:Can't wait. And then the week after it's See day, or is it be day? It's be day, it's. It's barbenheimer day, woof man, it's gonna be a good, be a wild time. Who earned all that smoke up? And I'm a, probably We'll find out. But yeah, until then, from me, from the careful man, yeah, damn it, you know what, against against my better judgment, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say it the Luther of the podcast, I don't know how I feel about it, but I earned all this smoke brother who wrote that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so mission impossible is a blast. I'm looking forward to talking about superman and Lois, barbie Oppenheimer coming up, blue beetle coming up, secret invasion, the end of that coming up the lot a good stuff still happening. So until then, we will see you next week. Goodbye.
Speaker 1:Go to the movies. Make sure you go to the movies.
Speaker 2:Oh, go to the theaters different, different ending. Yeah, I like it. What did I used to?
Speaker 1:say peace. Well, I know I used to say more. Oh, do do a thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, read more, write more, live more, done, done, done.
Speaker 1:We're a copywriter now done, done, done, done.
Speaker 2:Why'd they have to use AI as the villain?