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We got absolutely bombarded with trailers this week. From “House of the Dragon,” to “The Boys,” to…Fallout? We talk about a few news bits from the week before discussing the trailers for upcoming shows and films and gauge our excitement for each.
The issue of leak culture is currently creating a significant shift in the entertainment industry. As we highlighted in the episode, it's changing the way we consume movies and television shows. Leaked trailers, spoilers, and set photos have become a new norm, eroding the element of surprise that has always been integral to the movie-going experience. Ryan Reynolds has managed to navigate these leaks with humor and resilience, providing an interesting perspective on this phenomenon. We'll also dive into the anticipation surrounding new projects such as The Boys season 4, House of the Dragon, Fallout, and Grand Theft Auto VI. We also spent some time preparing for the second season of The Last of Us, with a focus on showrunner Craig Mazin's prowess in portraying humanity and tension, we explore what a second season might look like and pivotal character developments.
Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
02:18 Deadpool Leaks & Leak Culture
06:59 “The Last of Us” Update
14:27 Blade is Coming Along Nicely?
21:26 Furiosa Trailer
26:29 Fallout Trailer
35:20 Godzilla x Kong vs Godzilla: Minus One
41:30 House of the Dragon
50:21 The Boys Season 4
01:02:46 Grand Theft Auto 6
01:12:24 Looking to the Game Awards, Signing Off, Topic for Next Week!
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We got absolutely bombarded with trailers this week. From “House of the Dragon,” to “The Boys,” to…Fallout? We talk about a few news bits from the week before discussing the trailers for upcoming shows and films and gauge our excitement for each.
The issue of leak culture is currently creating a significant shift in the entertainment industry. As we highlighted in the episode, it's changing the way we consume movies and television shows. Leaked trailers, spoilers, and set photos have become a new norm, eroding the element of surprise that has always been integral to the movie-going experience. Ryan Reynolds has managed to navigate these leaks with humor and resilience, providing an interesting perspective on this phenomenon. We'll also dive into the anticipation surrounding new projects such as The Boys season 4, House of the Dragon, Fallout, and Grand Theft Auto VI. We also spent some time preparing for the second season of The Last of Us, with a focus on showrunner Craig Mazin's prowess in portraying humanity and tension, we explore what a second season might look like and pivotal character developments.
Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
02:18 Deadpool Leaks & Leak Culture
06:59 “The Last of Us” Update
14:27 Blade is Coming Along Nicely?
21:26 Furiosa Trailer
26:29 Fallout Trailer
35:20 Godzilla x Kong vs Godzilla: Minus One
41:30 House of the Dragon
50:21 The Boys Season 4
01:02:46 Grand Theft Auto 6
01:12:24 Looking to the Game Awards, Signing Off, Topic for Next Week!
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Speaker 1:Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Project Infinite Podcast, the podcast covering the infinite and an ever-expanding multiverse of fandom, from movies, comics, tv shows, video games. We got you covered. I'm Rob. I'm here, as always, with Kort Kort. It's another one of our famous. Let's talk about all the trailers, episodes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's actually 1.3 million trailers you have to talk about, so yeah, so many.
Speaker 1:And then we also didn't see the Hunger Games, so Can't talk about that.
Speaker 2:Well, technically it didn't happen yet, so it's in a far future.
Speaker 1:Ah, true, we can talk about that at a later date.
Speaker 2:Then See, we can wait till whatever year that the war is going to happen. We'll just wait till what? Is this? The 10th annual Hunger Games? We'll wait till then and then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1:Then we'll actually We'll commentate Live commentary. Oh, we get to commentate with Caesar Flickerman's.
Speaker 2:What is that? Is this his grand-grandpa? Probably. Well, caesar Flickerman's a nepo baby.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's the biggest revelation coming out of this movie. It's about snow or anything with him, but yeah, so we're not talking about the Hunger Games, but we are going to talk about a bunch of trailers, including. So what do we got?
Speaker 2:So we have the boys' season four. That was a highly anticipated trailer.
Speaker 1:And all these trailers came out in the same day, by the way.
Speaker 2:Well, it was the CCXP. What's going on so?
Speaker 1:Whatever that means, I hate communism.
Speaker 2:Nope, that's not it. That's not it, that's not it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got the boys. We got House of the Dragon, we got Fallout Not Mission Impossible, not Mission Impossible Fallout, but Fallout based on the video game series. And then we got an actual video game trailer, with the Grand Theft Auto VI finally was unveiled, and Rob's going to use that as the thumbnail so we get more views. Yeah, like the most, one of the most watched trailers ever.
Speaker 2:Movies, tvs, get Video. Guests one of the single most watched trailers on planet Earth.
Speaker 1:That's so crazy. Yeah, it's nuts, but we do have a little bit of news to talk about. First on top. So we have Deadpool. We talked about this a little bit last week, about like League Culture, I guess is the best way to explain it and we also have an episode dedicated to League Culture and yeah, but it's no good.
Speaker 2:It's starting to really dismantle. You know the very fat I'm thinking too deeply into this, but you know it's true, it's really starting to affect the way that we watch movies and you know, this idea of height behind a movie is kind of, you know, this modern ideal and it's very weird and, retroactively thinking, it is a very, you know, unwarranted concept, but the only reason it has a place to stay is because people make money off this. When people can make money off something, then it's usually, you know, a mainstay. So you know how many YouTube channels are run based off. We know what's going to happen in this thing or we're going to break down this trailer for the trailer for the trailer for the thing, or you know Set photos, set photos that came out Like there's no more and like we do the trailer for the trailer thing.
Speaker 2:But like what I? What always is going to become tough is when you're always going to talk about something that is meant to just be out and meant to just speculate from a trailer. The studio released the trailer, that's great, but like people scouting set photos to make sure they get the first leak on something is deteriorating. What we know is, you know, going to the movies and having a genuine experience Because I have no life, I watched the Avengers Endgame yesterday and I just thought about, like that, like there was really there could have been a little bit or whatever, but there was in this massive like leak. I think there might have been, but you know that one was kind of more avoidable because it's like, hey, don't click this because you know, but now it's just normal, like the big outlets are going to post the set photos and stuff like that. It's very it's weird and it's just it's taking away from going into the theater and having that wonder that we talk about ever so often.
Speaker 1:Especially for this movie where, like it's kind of predicated, that kind of predicated, that's kind of selling it short because I think it's going to be really good, but, like a lot of it is these kind of like surprises and this wow factor. And, you know, weirdly enough, like Ryan Reynolds, I feel like, is the best person equipped to handle this particular issue. Right, because he has since come out and posted like basically like meme set, photos of like Predator and like Deadpool holding up a bag of money with like Mickey Mouse standing behind him. It's good stuff. And he released like a different statement basically saying like look, you know these things happen and but you know, it's super important to us to film things on location. And you know, and that's kind of been an issue too Like people go why does such and such movie look like crap?
Speaker 1:Well, because a lot of these studios and directors are kind of afraid to shoot on location with these massive projects because they don't want stuff to get leaked. So Ryan Reynolds is basically like, hey, we're going to do that anyway, even though stuff got leaked, like he still feels like there's a ton of other cool surprises still in store. So and he really believes in the projects. I mean this goes all the way back to like Deadpool one with him where like it was never even supposed to be a thing, Like it was never supposed to get made, and then someone Ryan Reynolds leaked that, that test, that test, the test footage, and then it literally spawned the first Deadpool movie, which made a billion dollars. The second one was really, really good. I watched them both on Thanksgiving Day. They were on regular TV.
Speaker 2:What a way to spend your Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1:And they're both still really great. They're still really funny, like all the jokes still land. So I'm expecting this one to be good. And you know, like I said, ryan Reynolds is probably the best and Hugh Jackman honestly.
Speaker 2:To some extent Both of them are really well equipped to deal with this particular issue and I don't think these leaks have really hampered my anticipation for this movie because I think it's going to be really good and I know they have some stuff up their sleeves because we keep seeing the same set photos from this movie and I thought about that.
Speaker 2:I was like we've only seen one location out of a movie that's going to be probably. How long did they say how long this movie's going to be? I don't think they've said anything, but a movie that you know probably will be two hours plus.
Speaker 1:Is the only, also the only Marvel Studios movie set for next year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because we're not going to get Brave New World next year. So this movie is going to have some time to breathe and I think they're happy with that, because I do think there's going to be some things in this movie that's going to, you know, shake what the MCU as we know it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then from one thing to the other. So the Last of Us, I guess kind of pairing with the House of the Dragon stuff that we're going to talk about later. The Last of Us is going to resume filming in January, so it'll be coming out in 2025. So kind of not surprised, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't think that January slot is going to just now be synonymous with the Last of Us. It's going to be like we are, because now and then the same thing like we're going to talk about when you talk about House of the Dragon season two. House of the Dragon season two is probably going to come out in August, like it did before. The Last of Us is probably going to take the January slot. I just think it makes a lot of sense. It's a great way to start the year, so obviously we have to go one year without the Last of Us.
Speaker 2:We are going to have the remaster, though, for part two which is interesting timing If you ask me that we're going to get this remaster and then we're getting part two. So yeah, I mean, obviously we're super excited for season two. Obviously, the big question is how do you structure season two? I think we knew that going in was that was going to be the number one question, because as soon as Maison said, hey, season one is going to be the first game, now you have some room to play with. So I don't want to launch into spoilers.
Speaker 1:And he said there's going to be more seasons past season two, so the second game is going to be broken up somehow, or maybe this next season is kind of a build up to the second game and this kind of you kind of let Craig Mazin and Diljokman kind of explore the in between of Last of Us, part one and Last of Us.
Speaker 2:Part two that was the point that I talked to you about off of here was this is this is the beauty of having Craig Mazin, because you probably you might get a decent show without Craig Mazin. You get a phenomenal show with Craig Mazin, but I think the number one thing that you get him in for is probably this it's probably this in between time, between one and two, where we don't know really what happened in between one and two. Obviously, you can put pieces together from the first game to the second game, but now you're going to understand some more of these things. Some characters are going to be fleshed out, some relationships are going to be either built or broken, and I think that's important. So no other person in Hollywood I don't think is better than Craig Mazin to do this right now.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and just in terms of like, I feel like if that's the route they're going to go, with it they can definitely afford to lean into the to the world a little bit more, which I think is really his wheelhouse. Obviously, if you watch Chernobyl like it was really the, the, the feeling of the world of that show that made it so successful. Just the way he built that whole kind of structure around, around this low, around this location and really built this uneasiness and like this tension just in the world itself and I think there were elements of that in the first season of Last of Us, I think about the first episode in particular did that really well.
Speaker 2:I just think his biggest asset is his humanity, and not just his humanity is understanding of human nature, I think is it's something to be studied, in my opinion. You know, through Chernobyl in the last of us season, season one, like he has an understanding on you know what makes humans ticks, tick on like an audience level and in universe level, like all those things are super realized and I just can't wait to see, because this is going to be uncharted territory for a lot of people. So, again, I think the biggest asset that the show has going is the fact that he's just here, like him and Druckmann are here. So you have the person that made it and you have this incredible storyteller. You have two incredible storytellers on top of that trying to work this out. I think it's going to go well, yeah, and I might get my my dream of the Last of Us Part 3 being announced and, in two hours, being announced.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll see, we'll see what. We'll see what the game awards have in store. We and I mean honestly, if I'm thinking about this show and doing a season two and knowing the second game and knowing that a lot of people know the second game why not use that against them, against us, and like build to it, build to it but like don't get there, like let the anticipation like kind of drag out a little bit? I think is would be great because like that's I feel like that's what Game of Thrones did really well, at least in the earlier seasons was kind of using the, the knowledge, against people. So I think you could also do that.
Speaker 1:You know, people are people who know is like that miss the incredible meme those, those who don't know, those who know, in particular for the Last of Us, part 2. Use it, use it against those who know you know, make them anticipate that big, the big moment. You know that obviously I'm not going to spoil here, but yeah, that's what I would do. I would drag this thing out, I would do a lot of establishing of where Joel and Ellie's relationship goes, I mean that's the number one thing you have to do.
Speaker 2:I also think you need to. You need to flesh out Jackson like holy, like you need to make Jackson live, like, essentially, what you've got to do is, obviously it doesn't need to be to this extent, but maybe you try to treat Jackson how you know, just making it simple, how, like the Batman mythos treats Gotham, or like you know it needs to be, this place that also lives and breathes, because then that will give it a sense of something that needs to be protected and saved and then might help you in season two to get to the bridge point.
Speaker 1:And then I mean, obviously this is going to be revealed with the casting, I would assume.
Speaker 1:But you also have to develop Abby, not to I'm not going to dive into like her story or anything, but she is a main character of the last of us, part two, and one of my minor critiques of it is is the pacing of it and kind of how her story kind of mixes in with Joel and Ellie story. And then I think if you, if the game had done with her what I hope the show does in the sense of like, here's this character, here's how she's existed in this world for however long she's been around and you know, here's how she, you know, comes, here's how she sees the world, here's how she sees the people around her and really ground her and give her kind of a point of view. I think that'll really allow them to make her a character that the grander audience kind of tolerates better, because that's her story really is interesting, I think it's very interesting, yeah, and I hope the remaster helps it a little bit and people have had time to breathe.
Speaker 2:I mean, should we talk spoilers about this for a second or should we save this for another day, because we can save it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is a discussion.
Speaker 2:That's because I, from the bottom of my heart, think that the last of us, part two, is near perfect, and I don't think anybody there's a there's a wave of people that would say that that game is an absolute Travis data gaming, which I think is insane because it's coming from the same universe. You just don't like the thing that happened. That's my theory and will all be my theory.
Speaker 1:The last of us. Part two was also a victim of League culture. Yeah, the plot of the game got spoiled before released and people were furious.
Speaker 2:And I wasn't into the last of us at that point. I just knew that happened. At that point I heard about it and me playing and now me being the last of us fan that I am now. I just now. I know that must have went over, but yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:It was crazy time, but yeah, we'll see what happens with season two and that gets rolling and I'm excited for it. Like the first season is, you know, pristine television. There's really no other way to think about it, speaking of pristine things. So we talked last week. We talked about Marvel and the kind of mess that they found themselves in in the hiatus since we've been gone, and one of the sticking points was about Blade and how that movie was a mess and it was being basically redone from the ground up with a smaller budget, a little bit lower with the budget, and apparently things are moving along quite well to the point where Mahershala Ali is quite pleased with the product and he's gaining confidence, which is good. It's good when your, when your main star, is confident in your project. So yeah, I mean, I think this was always the direction this movie should have gone in the first place lower budget, kind of grittier, you know, probably going to be R rated, yep.
Speaker 2:Deadpool 3 is a good litmus test to see what we're going to be, because obviously that gets you know a little bit of a pass, because obviously it had it had to have been R rated. But we're just going to see if people will see you know, a non-dead pull movie from the MCU that's R rated.
Speaker 1:Well, we're going to also see it with Echo MTV. Yeah, with Echo we're going to see these darker tones.
Speaker 2:And you know people receive that Echo trailer including us pretty well, which I thought was pretty outstanding. So you know you don't waste a two-time Oscar winner. You just don't waste that. You don't let them. They already wasted them once. Yeah, they did waste them once and the faculty stayed.
Speaker 2:Marvel did waste them once they're in a Luke Cage, right, yeah, yeah they did, and you know for him to come back and be, and you know I one day have we. We haven't talked about Luke Cage at length. I don't believe I know we've talked about it.
Speaker 1:We talked about it. I think one of our. Yeah, we ranked all the we ranked the Netflix shows we talked about. I know there was one episode where we talked about like underrated seasons of TV, superhero TV I think we did, and I think we talked about Luke Cage season one then, yeah, and the first half of that show is just the first half of that show is more like a stylistic daredevil, and then the second half of that show plays like Iron Fist, season one.
Speaker 2:So it's just funny, you know, maybe this doesn't have to do with it, but it's just funny that Mahershali spoilers for a show that came out years and years ago but Mahershali's character gets killed and then the show just takes an absolute nose dive down and then, you know, getting back to Blade, I mean this project, just it feels like there's a sense of easiness now, like that, now it's realized that I mean, you know the old adage goes that story is king, you know, but we heard of the first draft of what that story was going to be was just it didn't make sense and I mean, you know, not to bring any other project into this, but you know, it's the same thing I somewhat feel about Agatha Coven of Chaos is like it's the why. Again, it's, you know, everything I want anybody to make, what they need to make, like there's a whole bunch of characters that get to, you know, live and breathe, and I think that's spectacular, but some, you know, at the end of the day, sometimes you do need to ask the why and that first blade leak of what we thought, what we heard it was going to be. It's why, like, why was why? Was that the first initial plan? For you know, like I said, this two-time Oscar winner, one of the one of the bigger actors in Hollywood, one of the characters that was that has such a cult following behind it and could lead you and propel you with werewolf by night, moon night, into the midnight sun there of the MCU, like that's not something that you, you play around with.
Speaker 2:So I'm just glad it's back on track, glad my her shawly's excited um, and I mean we can also transition to what, why Russell said about the Thunderbolts with that um, and he said that the Thunderbolts is going to feel a little bit more, like you know, like cinema, like it's going to feel a little bit more like a film, which you know I've been talking about for for a while, which you know we both, when we talked about you know what the MCU needs to do, one of my big takes was they need to make these movies feel like films, because the kids that grew up with those, with these movies, like myself, are not kids anymore and we know more about movies now. So you can't get away with doing things like Ant-Man 3 and Thor, thor, love and Thunder, like you can't get away with those things anymore yeah, the quote from why Russell was um, it's not a straightforward Marvel movie as you've seen in the past.
Speaker 1:It's a very different type of Marvel movie is is basically what he said, which, um, yeah, I think that's. I think that's what exactly he's alluding to is the fact that, like, hey, this is going to be a little bit more of a, it's going to have a little bit more in it, and, uh, I think that's great. I think, if they can I mean me and you both agree that Cats in America, the Winter Soldier is one of the best that they've ever done um, and because it's, it's because it's grounded yeah, and I mean even to go further, and I always say this about there's two ways to do this, like another way you can do this.
Speaker 2:Obviously, we know what type of universe this is like. We know what type of things that you're trying to pull he said it's time to make a good Marvel movie.
Speaker 1:Is what he said he?
Speaker 2:was talking to him, he was talking to his dad and he let it slip. But you know, I look at Guardians of the Galaxy, one for this all the time, and then subsequently Guardians of the Galaxy, volume 3 human emotion, or, you know, emotion of being, also helps you a lot. And you know the the human, not human, but you know the intrinsic nature of the being, like that also can help you a little bit. You know, resonate with people. Guardians of Guardians 3 does that really well.
Speaker 2:Um, like, stylistic choices, like all those things help you out a little bit. So, yeah, all those things can you know, equate to, you know, a piece of the pie that is, that is film, cinema, whatever you want to call it. Um, and you know, I just hope, like you know, we talked about the fantastic four, like remember, like when we thought it was going to be Adam Driver and Margot Robbie, like that should be taken, like you know. Obviously, like I said, you know what you're making, like we know what this is, but you can try to do some things with it. Like you can try to make a little bit of the, the cinema in there, like I'm, I don't think people are asking you to make the Batman every single time or Logan every single time, but like maybe a more concerted effort. That's how you avoid situations like you know where you get Ant-Man, quantum Mania or you get you know you get Thor 11, thunder, like just those movies that just feel like they just don't care about those things yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean, and that movie we don't really know what it is um, but it does have the potential and the characters to be that kind of movie. Um, I think we both agree that John Walker was a really interesting, captivating character in Falcon, the Lord of Solider.
Speaker 2:So maybe you can you can peek between the cracks sometimes and see, like you can see, sometimes some things are like where we'll find out is a good example of that. I'll always I'm always going to argue that the Eternals has a lot of that in that movie and I think that's where some it turns some of the people off because it was very different from what we were getting at that point but not.
Speaker 1:People are kind of coming around on it.
Speaker 2:I've been. I've been praising the Eternals. Since this movie like I think that movie is is kind of special in terms of the MCU, I hope that it just keeps keeps getting a cult following.
Speaker 1:Just keep going we're getting the sequel um. All right, let's talk.
Speaker 2:Let's talk some trailers, woof what do you want to start with?
Speaker 1:we can start anywhere, you want.
Speaker 2:Let's start with Furiosa, because this is a movie that I I actually had very highly anticipated for myself. I mean, obviously Mad Max Fury Road you want to talk about like cult classics, like I feel like Mad Max Fury Road has built quite the cult classic. Oh it's cult following.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's one. I mean, it's one of the best movies ever. Yeah, I mean I'm like that's not even.
Speaker 2:I just like you know I think I said this the other day I like, I like these epics, I like these, you know, odyssey's, like these Homer esque odyssey's, not Homer Simpson, but like these Homer odyssey's. That are just these grand tales and you know that's. That's a big beauty about about film. Film can be tender and intimate or film can be, you know, massive and expansive and you know exploring. You know these vast universes and I think Mad Max Fury Road mixed the two of those together quite well. Obviously it's a little top-heavy on. You know these big ideals and like these big, you know, set pieces, but I do think that movie has a has quite the heart to it as well, and you know we look forward to Furiosa. So this is 15 years, I believe before is when this takes place. How are we feeling about this?
Speaker 1:um, I mean, as far as, like the trailer goes, it it's definitely. It has an interesting style behind it. You know, it feels a little, I don't know, it just looks. It looks wacky, like it looks, which Mad Max is, but this looks even more so and I'm just like I don't know. Like you know what I mean and you know, obviously Anya Taylor-Joy is taking over the role from Charlie Starron because it's a prequel, um, and it's just, I don't know, it's just something about. It just didn't really invoke like Fury Road to me and maybe the movie will tell a different story, but it just feels, some of it, something about. It just felt off Mad Max-off.
Speaker 2:It doesn't feel off and you know I mean one thing that I know they were doing a whole bunch on on Fury Road was a lot of that stuff was practical, like I know, and you can even tell some of the opening shots. You can tell it's quite a bit of CGI in here. Um, you can tell down to the, to the ships and the cars and all those things like you can tell they're a little bit more, you know, computer generated than you know.
Speaker 2:They were building a lot of stuff that I know on the first set. Um, and you know, that's never. Obviously, if you're to pick, obviously you want, you want to make like that's just, that's always, in my opinion, going to get you to where you need to be. Sometimes you need to do the. You need to make like that's just, that's Hollywood, if you want this premium Hollywood we talk about, but, um, I'm still looking forward to it. I mean, in my opinion, story wise, I still think this might be strong. Um, obviously we talk about this all the time. I'm glad it's George Miller. If it was somebody else and I would I probably would have been just straight in line with what you're saying. I'm gonna give it a little bit of a benefit of the doubt because George Miller's still here yeah, yeah, no, that's totally valid.
Speaker 1:And you know, in that situation, like you have to think that he, everything he's doing, has there's a choice behind it, um, just not doing it for the sake of doing it, so that I'm definitely willing to concede that that could be the case. And you know, they wouldn't have done this without. He wouldn't have done this without reason or without wanting to. So, um, yeah, I, just I, I think there's a lot in there. Chris Hemsworth is in this, um, kind of playing against type a little bit, which is good for him, um, to kind of get out there and yeah, we'll see. Um, like he said, mad Max a fury wrote especially.
Speaker 1:But just Mad Max in general is always kind of like this grungy, underground, kind of like not counterculture movie, but like it is. It is that it's like this just one that always seems to be like a cult classic, like all of the Mad Max movies kind of almost fall under that category. So I feel like this is kind of gonna be the same deal. I think, you know, maybe it's a movie that doesn't come out to a ton of fanfare but two, three, four years after the fact people end up really loving it. I feel like that's where these Mad Max movies always end up falling.
Speaker 2:Yeah and I mean shout out to fury road for, like I said, it just built something that you know the originals. The originals were like these weird, somewhat goofy sci-fi you know sci-fi movies but, like Mad Max, fury Road took itself seriously, but not too too seriously like it was. It was obviously it took itself seriously but it was tearing that edge a little bit, which I really appreciate it. But I mean that performance from Charlize Theron was incredible. But in my opinion, if there's there's like a very short list of actors that you could have got to play the prequel, I think On you, taylor Joy is on that list of somebody that I would feel, and I do feel comfortable with with, you know, taking the helm from her yeah, yeah, completely, totally agreed, um, where where to next let's talk.
Speaker 2:Let's talk, fall out, because I feel like we should save the, the in universe things for the end, because that's, that's just our elbow at this point. Yeah, so I'm gonna let you take this one, because I'm gonna chime in on a, I guess, a filmmaking level, because that's, I guess, our our our understanding of each other. Um, but man, just to give a quick thought. I don't know what it is. I fell in love with this trailer. I just I can't put my finger on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they nailed the vibe. I mean in general fallout. So really really short kind of summary. It's all history Advancements in nuclear technology led to kind of this retrofuturistic society where everything is futuristic, like tech is futuristic but it's also the things that make up that tech are kind of like stuck in the 50s, like that kind of like that kind of mindset, like when you think of like quote, unquote the nuclear family, like that's the fallout universe, it's like everything's kind of stuck in that like nuclear family.
Speaker 1:Like you know, things are in black and white. They have the vault boys, like the kind of like spokesperson for like everything commercial in the fallout universe and basically what happens is America and China go to war in like 20, like the far flung future, but, like I said, everything's still stuck in that retrofutur style. They go to war. America in the meantime was building these vaults all over the country that they were cramming people into. Nuclear holocaust occurs, destroy quote unquote destroys the world. People are up on the surface, surviving people are in the vaults and then usually the conceit behind every fallout game is your player character grows up in one of these vaults. Insighting incident player character leaves the vault and has to save the world, not the world, but the region that they find themselves in, whether that's in Washington DC in the case of fallout three, whether that's like the Boston greater Boston area and fallout four, and some of these vaults which I get the vibe of in this trailer, some of these vaults, unbeknownst to the dwellers of said vaults, were used for experiments by the government, by the American government. So sometimes, in the case of vault one oh one and fallout three, that was a vault that was experimented on recluse culture of vault one oh one, once you go in you can never leave. So the inhabitants of all one oh one grow up there, die there, and the cycle goes on and on. And you know, the vault dweller from vault one oh one eventually leaves the vault and pursuit of their father, played by Liam Neeson.
Speaker 1:Fallout fours vault. They were all stuck in cryogenic freeze. That was their vault. They fall out four. All the characters are from the day of the bombs going off and they all go into the vault. They're all cryogenically frozen. Every one of the vault dies, except for your player character. You find out that the cryogenic freezing's were failing, so the people overseeing the vault killed everybody in the vault. So there's usually some type of horrific circumstance surrounding each of these vaults and that's the vibe I kind of got from the trailer because I think you see, our main character, played by Ella Pernell, is the main character she is talking to, who looks like the overseer and he has like one eye and he's drinking for like a mug. So I wonder if this was some kind of like mutation vault that they, you know, dealt with mutations or.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, I feel like it nailed the look. I'm excited to see more of the creature designs. We saw a little bit of the rad roaches, which is basically they just radiated roaches that are just huge, like they're like dog sized roaches. So I'm excited to see the creature designs. The world, I guess my only kind of not complain, but like one little nitpick, is the world looked a little too clean compared to what you'd expect. Outside of the vault. It's very, you know, fallout three is called the capital wasteland. It's like a dilapidated Washington DC. So I'm curious to see how that ends up looking. But yeah, man, I was super impressed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean this idea of retro futurism. I think it's such an interesting concept and storytelling. I love it. I love when places are trapped in the future but are reversed. Do I love when places you know?
Speaker 1:are in the future, but trapped in the past.
Speaker 2:Trapped in the past, I think it's such an interesting concept, I mean, you know, even down to modern storytelling, like you know, just to name it. I mean, like the movie, her, like that's a movie that's, you know, obviously takes place in the future, but it's trapped into, like you know, this past life almost. Like I love. I love when movies attack that and they understand, like you know, it's this. For me it's always this theory that, like you know, nothing's new under the sun. So this trailer did it for me and then some it just, you know it looks, you know, filmmaking wise, it looks polished, like it looks clean. The CGI looks solidly tight right now. And you know this is going to go on to a bigger theory that maybe we'll talk about when we talk about the boys in a second. That Amazon Prime is, you know, for lack of a better term, they're in their prime right now, like we're really starting to hit the ground running. We're not going to talk about it, but the Mr and Mrs Smith trailer, with with Donald Glover as well, like it's looking very, very promising for what Amazon Prime has to, has to offer.
Speaker 2:And I'm saying this, you know, after that we got all three seasons of the boys, we got invincible, we had the the Lord of the Rings spin off show Like. The studio admittedly probably has some money behind it, but the production that you're getting out of that is is, you know it's it's as expect, it's like what you would want as as it's as you should expect, right there. So it looks clean. Like I said, that trailer has some some pace to it as well. You can really feel the. You can really feel like there's this uneasiness behind it. That's I really appreciate, which obviously I'm not. I never played the fall out games. Were those Xbox exclusives or?
Speaker 1:No, no, nope, Nope, they were. They. Presumably, if there ever was a fall out five, they they would be, because Bethesda, bethesda is now an Xbox zone studio, so a fall out five for, say, would probably be an Xbox exclusive. But no, no, they're all, they're all. Well, the first two were PC games fall out one and two, and then fall out three was the first major console release for a fall out game and it went to. The first two were kind of like these top downy for back of a better word, like SimCity S kind of looking things. And then fall out three was a first person action adventure, rpg basically, and then obviously fall out.
Speaker 2:Four came out in 2018. Yeah, 2018. I remember that was like a huge release, like that was a big deal and that was coming out. I remember that. But yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to that. We're getting this show in April.
Speaker 1:I believe April 24th.
Speaker 2:Definitely I will be there, no matter what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm looking forward to it and we've talked about this. You know, coming off the discussion of the last of us is it feels like these TV and movie studios are really diving into video games now.
Speaker 2:I think they understand the potential of the expansiveness. And then it's not like a comic book where you know you're going to have to go out and get this thing. Obviously, for a video game you're going to have to go out, but it's easier accessible than a comic book is. Yeah, right now. If I wanted to go find the comic book right now I would have to pay for it and obviously the video game you would. But I can probably go on YouTube and find a breakdown of a character. But if I want some niche you know issue from the 80s it's going to be difficult for me to find a breakdown versus a video game. I can go watch the entire video game being played on YouTube right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and a lot of people on YouTube will put together. They'll mix cutscenes with gameplay to kind of create these video game movies. You know, I think I did. I think I watched one on, I think it was. I think I watched one on that was the Batman Arkham Origins. There's like two and a half hours where they cut together the cutscenes, mixed with some gameplay here and there, to make it feel like a movie, which is super cool.
Speaker 2:That people can do that. I did that with Infamous a couple of weeks ago. You know, a game that we I want remastered in the worst possible way. I think that would play well on the PS5 engine if it's going to be a PlayStation exclusive. But yeah, we're in this golden age of you know. Obviously we're going to see what this God of War TV show is going to look like, produced by Amazon Prime, which you know, it's looking good.
Speaker 2:If this is what we're getting out of a video game TV show we got a chance to house.
Speaker 1:he's doing Ghost of Tsushima.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that one is probably my number one, most anticipated as well.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, 100% agree that that that feels like it could be like a last of us, like, oh, this is like beyond the, the genre, basically, or beyond the medium, not even beyond the genre, right.
Speaker 2:Let's get the Godzilla vs Kong. Oh man, so should we talk about Godzilla minus one for 30 seconds? Yeah, so we didn't. We both did not see this movie yet because we were planning on seeing this movie, but apparently Godzilla minus one is one of the best movies of the year. It's apparently Cinema, the cinema that they'd be talking about, which is awesome. You know, I think it's incredible that you know we don't need to have this one definitive version of Godzilla like we can have. You know Godzilla where it originated from and looks incredible.
Speaker 1:And we have cinema Godzilla.
Speaker 2:We have cinema Godzilla, and then we have this.
Speaker 1:Then we have fascinatious Godzilla Yep.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about this trailer cause I gotta be honest, I'm a little lost. I'm a little lost. I don't know what we're doing and you know we were joking. Before we got on here we were like do you think Gareth Edwards is looking at this? And like how Oppenheimer was looking at the nuclear weapon. He was just like you know. We started to train reaction of what franchises can turn into with Godzilla and like it's gonna be big cash grabs instead of the cinema.
Speaker 1:This movie looks bananas.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean no offense Kong sorry. Oh, come on man.
Speaker 2:You're canceled now Like holy moly, Is it Godzilla and Kong? Is it Kong's Coal Island part something?
Speaker 1:Well, here's the thing. Is it Planet of the Apes? I don't know. Godzilla feels like this Dave's ex machina character.
Speaker 2:You know who Godzilla is starting to feel like. Godzilla is starting to feel like Captain Marvel in the Avengers movies, a little bit Like this thing that you call when you need something to get done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I mean there was Godzilla 2014. Which was good.
Speaker 2:One day we're gonna talk about that movie, cause that's one of the most underrated movies to meet like on my list Shout out low budget disaster king Gareth Edwards. I absolutely love to take on Godzilla from that. And then we got Kong's Coal Island Right, which still had a little bit of that element where they understood like, obviously it's a little bigger in scale and it's like this obviously Godzilla 2014,. Godzilla was massive in scale, but that was the point, like that's the whole point, like when Godzilla shows up, like it's business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and then you know, and then the post-credits scene in the Skull Island is like yeah, it takes place in the same universe. It's a team up.
Speaker 2:It's a team up maybe.
Speaker 1:Then we do Godzilla, king of the Monsters, which was fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was fun. And then again, now you're starting to slip a little bit into like. Like you know, it's a spectrum.
Speaker 2:Charles dances in this Yep, charles dances. So there's a spectrum. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. So there's the art, and then there's the. There's the corporatize, right, yeah. So Godzilla 2014 was like almost to the art side, yeah. And then you know, you kept slipping and slipping and slipping and then, like Coal Kong's Coal Island was like getting closer to the middle, and then King of the Monsters started to get over that other side of the middle but still had a little bit of some fun elements in there. And then you get to the team up from what year? That was 2020. That was 2020. 2020. Yeah, and you know, then it gets a lot farther on the on the other side, and now we're just on the.
Speaker 1:we're gone. Oh yeah, we're gone. Now we're gone, we're gone.
Speaker 2:I love it. We're gone.
Speaker 1:It's, it's. Yeah, kong was just, it was just a rush like this. I mean, it was great. I really liked that. It was fun, some fun stuff. I thought it was really well paced, mm-hmm. I like how they segmented kind of like the showdowns, like the squareoffs, like you have the one, the battleship one, like near the beginning of the movie, then you have the next one, not it's out like right outside the Hollow Earth, and then you have the last one right in the city and then mecca Godzilla shows up and then they team up right, kong's got a big axe, yep, and then so this one Godzilla just killed mecca Godzilla and then was like I'm gonna go recharge, but I don't see.
Speaker 2:I'm not concerned about any of the Godzilla stuff. It's the Kong lore that's really killing me right now because I don't understand anything that's going on with this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I thought the whole thing behind Kong was like he was the last one right, wasn't he?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was like it, like he was, he was the, he was him, he was him, he was him. Not anymore. There's a bunch more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, smaller Kong.
Speaker 2:There's small, small con smaller con. Is that a plan of the apes crossover Just?
Speaker 1:kidding. Then there's other bandolier, kong yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know what's happening. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Godzilla's pink now. I don't know man, I don't understand. Godzilla's got like a super Saiyan form, I guess. I guess Super.
Speaker 2:Saiyan Godzilla. This is like the toughest I've ever had to break something down, because I'm just like and I don't know if this is wild yeah, it's wild. Like this is like. Obviously I knew something like this was going to happen, but I didn't think they'd go this way. I thought they had a little bit of like saving grace, like understanding of, like. We're still going to try a little bit to like ground this, just the slightest bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean, even if you're not going to ground it like I don't know, like you got to pick a like who's the who's the monster? Who are they fighting? What are they fighting? It's that other Kong. That's not like a famous thing.
Speaker 2:I guess not, like I don't think the monsters did Ghidorah right. That's the king of the king, literally the king of the monster, and then Godzilla Kong did Mecha. Godzilla Right and now it's, that's other other Kong, other Kong's, which is who's bigger than? But how big are these? Like? Are these?
Speaker 1:I don't understand the scale, like I can't pick up the scale, no, and the scale keeps changing too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I just have a theory that Godzilla should never have. I don't care how many Kong's that you put against God's. Like he should never struggle or Godzilla should never struggle. Like Godzilla should never have a problem. No, kong's got like a mechanical arm now Like. What type of superhero movie are we diving into now?
Speaker 1:And it is a superhero. It was a superhero movie. At the end of the last one, though, right, like when he got like the big, like supercharged acts to fight Godzilla. With Right, he's like even what do you do? It was the Batman, is the Batman Arkham city or Arkham Arkham night thing? Kong got the big acts and like what are you doing? Kong? He's like evening the odds.
Speaker 2:And he lost. And then he did lose. Let's talk about House of the Dragon. I'm over it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, speaking of big lizards.
Speaker 2:All right Now. Now it's real, real cinema.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what, oh man? Oh man, we've been waiting. Well, I've been waiting.
Speaker 2:Any positive adjective that you can throw I'm about to say, because this trailer just looks phenomenal.
Speaker 1:It's yeah, but we're going, we're going full send they did. The thing which is always kind of a risk in a TV show is, the first season was like here's your world building and here's your war and some character moments, and then we're going to build it up, build it up, build it up. Then we get to the season finale and it kicks off.
Speaker 2:It's war, it's the Dune Dune, part one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we kicked off in the season finale of season one, right, and now season two is we're just, we're we're going to do the war.
Speaker 2:We're throwing down? Yeah, we're going to. We're going to what?
Speaker 1:like not what everyone wanted, a game of Thrones, but like you ever watched, like I don't know how far you got in a game of Thrones, but like every game of Thrones season, like there's always like a big battle, but like the perspective of said big battle except for battle of the bastards and the one where they fight at the wall is like, and then obviously the final season when they do the battle in Winterfell. But most of the battles in Game of Thrones would be like charging and then like the point of view character would somehow it usually ends up being Tyrion. They like black out and then they wake up and they're like what happened and like the battle's over.
Speaker 2:I remember that from the season one, one or it's yeah season one where it's just like Tyrion just wakes up. That happens twice. They have to save these budgets, but in this man they just said we're doing the war and they have the conceit that they need to CGI these dragons and they look fun, they look incredible, they look so we got a big, another swooping shot of a guard swooping over, swooping overhead.
Speaker 1:When I tell you that I hope her narrow gets man.
Speaker 2:She's out for vengeance for Luke. So once upon a time I had waited till the show was all out to watch it. Right, and it was one. It was the famous there's a famous Sunday between me and Rob where I binge watched the entirety of the show. I woke up because I knew this was going to be mentally a lot because to digest all that one day. So it was late in the day. I finally got to the season finale and spoiler alert for season one. But when but when Luke was killed, I was beside myself. So you know that energy going into, you know Renea is mind and you know her unleashing that we're going to see not the lives being blurred, but that is Game of Thrones. There's no good people.
Speaker 2:No intrinsic good people. No, I mean this is.
Speaker 1:This is a Targaryen civil war. Yep, there are two sides of this conflict and both sides kind of have legitimacy to their, to their claim, and you know, the tragedy behind it all is always the thing that this areas was trying not to have happened, but because of political machinations and such, they weaponized his last wishes against the family Right, and that's that's where we're at against the family and you know, both sides are going to, and have done, abhorrent things to one another.
Speaker 1:That's just where it's going to go and ultimately, we know where it does go because of you know where we end up with in Game of Thrones, which is, you know, daenerys's father is the last of the Targaryens. The dragons are gone long gone by this point, by that point in Game of Thrones where hers hatch finally, and they have the first dragon scene in Westeros in decades, centuries. So we know where this is going. So we're just, it's just a matter of how we get there. Yeah, I mean this show, just I mean. George R R Barton said he's seen the first two episodes and he loved them and that they're very emotionally distressing.
Speaker 2:That's what he said. Yeah, I mean, you know, cinema, movie, film, all those things, wise and just, this show just and I've said it from season one that that show just looks phenomenal, like it looks so polished, it looks clean, but it looks, it looks lived in, it looks, it looks like it belongs, like all those, all those things on top of it. It's just, it's, it's really a marvel to look at at the end of the day. It's just, it's just. Nope, not like that, not that Marvel, you father, you father, is that too bad? Nope, yeah, yeah, it is. Come on, man. They made that movie for the post credit scene and I watched Black Adam yesterday. They made that movie for the post credit scene. I didn't realize how bad Black Adam was until I watched yesterday. But also I don't know why I was enjoying that movie as much as I was. It wasn't adding up.
Speaker 1:No expectations.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Now I went into an understanding and I was like I'm like I was like glued to this movie that I like knew was bad. Like I knew this movie was like it was much worse than when we saw it in theaters. Like it was, it was much worse. I was just like this is this is no, this is not a lot of good. Justice Society stuff is real good. I really I really enjoyed all the Justice Society. They know what they should have done Made a Justice Society movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And had Black Adam be the villain yeah. But the Rock can be a bad guy, so yeah, he said in the movie that he's not a good guy. But then he didn't say he was a bad guy. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:There's no, there's no good guys or bad guys. It's a for Hawkman. You know was the best bit in that movie. You're going to think it's the me and you bit, which is really good, but it's the bit that whenever the Hawkman and Black Adam see each other, it's just on site, like they're just going to throw hands just because they hate each other, like Godzilla and Kong. Oh yeah, but then they're mates at the end, yeah.
Speaker 1:Then they're pals. So, god's man that was on site, that was on, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But how's the? How's the jackets? I don't get the House of the Dragon, of Black Adam, my dad.
Speaker 1:From Sentiment of Cinema. Yeah, no, no. This show looks moving. This show looks phenomenal. All your favorites are back. Emma Darcy is back. Yep, matt Smith is back, matt.
Speaker 2:Smith is back. You know our favorites not back. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, true, because man Immortal immortalized.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you. I'm telling you, this is exactly what. Can you find me Like? I'm going to pull a field model Quick, rob, can you find me? Can you find me the name of the actor that got his head chopped off? So?
Speaker 1:I was going to say his name is Will Smith, but that can't be right.
Speaker 2:That's racist I think it's Will.
Speaker 1:Something Hang on Will If it's not Smith and we're canceling you immediately. That feels unfair.
Speaker 2:I think it's very fair.
Speaker 1:Coralus, hang on, coralus, valarion brother. There we go.
Speaker 2:Baman Valarion Will Johnson, ok that was to get Will Smith out of Will Johnson is crazy. But so here's my theory, right? So Will Johnson was doing that. They were doing their table read for episode eight, right, yeah, and he looks and he's like oh, I'm the main character for this scene, are not? And you know, actors act for years and years. He looks familiar, though. I think he's been in some. He's definitely been in some things. I don't know why he looks. He looks somewhat. I could be wrong, but he so this is what I think. Right, so I think he was on set. He was like well, I'm the main character today for this one scene, this pivotal scene, right?
Speaker 1:Well, he started as I'm the main character of the scene and then he went. Wait, am I the main character this entire show?
Speaker 2:Exactly like in the NBA, like when, like a bench player goes off to like 40. That's exactly his insanity. This was his insanity. Remember, when you remember when Corey Brewer had that 50 point game? This is exactly what this is Like. This vet of acting was just there and just like, wow, like this, I get to do this today, so scene in suit. We already talked about this scene in the glorious nature of this. But man, he just every, every bit of like stage acting and like acting school and everything he's all culminated in that very day. It was so good man. It was this little smirk he gave to before he said it, because he knew it was going to.
Speaker 1:He knew. So that's turning point, man, that is no true? All right, oh shit.
Speaker 2:But also Amon's the greatest. I have a theory that Amon is my favorite character because he's he's all about business. He does not mess around with anything else.
Speaker 1:He doesn't care. He doesn't care to do anything else except that Tommy's accidentally started a civil war.
Speaker 2:That well he was. He met business.
Speaker 1:They listen to me. They got her, but yeah, it didn't. Yeah, she didn't. She didn't listen to him.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately not. Luke was dead. Oh man, I was. I just I wanted to cry like I just I wanted to not do anything so crazy. And yeah, it was that. It was that turn to camera to end the season. Look from from Rina. I was like, oh yeah, season two is about to go, insane, yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about the boys. Let's talk about yeah, let's, yeah, yeah, let's talk about the boys.
Speaker 2:I love how the boys structures their trailers because it's just anarchy that's the best way I can ever describe. Like a boys trailer is just unhinged, like yeah, just there's no, like there's no rhyme and reason, and just throw clips and just have it get progressively crazier and crazier. Like that's all we're doing. Yeah, but you know, this season looks like it's going to be a political thriller, for lack of a better term. Somewhat, you know, especially with the Newman thing. Obviously, for those who know, who know, you know who Victoria Newman is not. Well, obviously it's a gender bent character, but you know what her character is in the comics. Like we know where this is leading. So then, also watch Gen V. Make sure you watch Gen V. Hey, that show is was just great.
Speaker 1:It's really, really good. I was bored with that.
Speaker 2:That might be the surprise of you know, when we do the world famous projects, project infinite yeah, that might be. My most underrated project of the year might be Gen V. I'd like I was just not expecting that to come out of that, but no it was.
Speaker 1:So it was. It was really like I said I'd be. We kind of touched upon it briefly last week when I said like it was I was shocked at the character death in that show like across, like the board of like the main cast of characters, like I found myself like sinking into them more than I even did. Like the main boys cast aside from like Starlight or like Butcher would be like I would say like the characters I'm like most attached to in the boys, and then in this I found myself caring about like all of them, yeah, everybody had.
Speaker 2:Everybody had rhyme or reason to stay and to be cared about, and you know it, you know. Does it help? Maybe it helps that they were in college like this yeah, age like also we need to form, you know, opinions about them as well too.
Speaker 2:Like, really, I really appreciated that. You know it's a perfect example of you're getting this project. That, not that was never made before. This is not a thing like this is just something they made, you know, to round out the universe. And boy did it round out the universe because I'm telling you, like, this show is very important. So it takes that. But they said, all right, we just need to make a good show. That's the number one product we have. We just need to make a good show. So, yeah, the I mean. But going getting back to the actual boy season four, I mean, I'm, I'm looking forward to it. Obviously I feel like this is finally gonna be. It is anything star finally gonna get his Emmy, like this is. My question is if he's fine yeah, you would think.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess he really depends, yeah, it really depends on are they gonna finally do the thing where they basically make homeland to the point of view character right?
Speaker 2:oh man, like they did in 13 reasons why season three oh my god.
Speaker 1:I'll never forgive that show for an insane attempt to try and do oh man, but yeah, I that you know it all depends, cuz like he's in that show a lot less than you think he is but that's the.
Speaker 2:I think that's the point. It's yeah yeah that's how intimidating of a he's one of the most.
Speaker 1:He's probably one of the best villains we've ever seen on live action yeah, anytime he shows up on screen like you feel tense, you don't know what he's gonna do exactly.
Speaker 2:You don't know what's about to happen and that's it's not. Again, it's the whole horror thing. It's not the bang, it's the anticipation of the bank like I don't know which homeland or I'm ever gonna get, and obviously it's gonna get. And now it's gonna get worse and worse and worse. I can't wait for the people to call this season political. I don't know what show you've been watching for three seasons, but no-transcript. Black Noir is back. Black Mmm.
Speaker 1:Mmm, look at that B Mmm. Who is it? Who's the man behind the mask?
Speaker 2:I can't say because I'm soon to spoil it. If it's right, if it's right, I have a different theory of who it could be. So do I. Who do you?
Speaker 1:think. I think it's Sam Mmm, that's good.
Speaker 2:From Gen V. Yup, that's good stuff. I like that a lot. Same power set too. I like that Also I. It could be. I have a feeling it could be Jensen Ackles and Soldier Boy. Ooh, that would also be good, because then it's also, how did they get him in there, unless you know?
Speaker 1:Well, because Mallory has him.
Speaker 2:Alright, we're spoiling the big twist at the end of the boys' comic run. So 3, 2, 1, there's your chance to run away. So you find out that Black Noir in the boys' comic universe is a clone of Homelander. And obviously the end of boys' season 3 was they got back, you know, because Homelander was made from, was obviously made from Soldier Boy. So yeah, and now Soldier Boy's in custody of the quote-unquote good guys. But I just think that this was a whole ploy to make sure that they can keep eyes on Homelander. But I really really like the idea of it being Sam. I think that actually makes a lot of sense. It's somebody that was easily not easily manipulated, but kind of in Gen V Was sort of manipulated in a way, and where did Gen V leave off Having him be the hero of that whole thing? So maybe that's an easier way to keep him muzzled too and not actually talk about what happened and talk about the traumas that he had. I think that's a it's like, and he's also a mirror of Homelander in a way too.
Speaker 2:So, he's a college Homelander.
Speaker 1:And there's a lot of that Homelander twist in the comics that they really kind of like the ship has kind of sailed on for some of that twist, you can get there, but it's, you're gonna as far as, like it can't be this season.
Speaker 1:As far as, like the revelation, again spoilers for the comics. I mean they're not great, but spoilers for the comics in the sense that like it turns out like it was the clone that did all those horrible things to like Butcher. I think we're well past that. Like we're past that point. Like Homelander, this Homelander clearly did all that stuff and clearly revels in it. So I think it would. They might not even do it. Like this show has been kind of all about subverting the comics in a lot of ways. So I feel like they. That's probably not even what's gonna end up happening. I do think the noir thing is gonna be a twist of some sort.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because obviously the now we know that noir is alive and well. So who is that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think that could definitely be a point of entry across the season and I think they're gonna. I think they're Like kind of like I talked about the last time I was here earlier, but like I think these show I think Eric Kripke is really good at Especially, like I said, the boys comics are not great.
Speaker 2:They're indulgent of themselves.
Speaker 1:So I think, if you know, at the first chance he gets at subverting a thing from the comics, I feel like he does it. I mean Soldier Boy is a perfect example. I mean you look at Soldier Boy in the comics he's a wuss, essentially Like he's. You know he's a parody of Captain America in a different way, whereas like Soldier Boy in the show is a parody of Captain America in a really different way from the comics.
Speaker 2:He's like the alpha male of alpha male from the 40s, like just survived this whole time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think the noir thing is gonna be a similar, in a similar vein, where it's gonna be a twist of sorts and we just don't know what that is. And it may not even because again, spoiler alert for comics that clone kills Homelander.
Speaker 2:Right, that's the whole point, and basically it's not great because there's still another Homelander out there.
Speaker 1:So I do feel like it would be. You know it's, it's the, you know the thing had that's not has to be. But If Homelander is gonna meet his end, it's not gonna be the hands of another Homelander.
Speaker 2:At this point. No, if you would have told me that in season two, sure. Maybe even the beginning of season three, sure, but not now. I think we're two. That genie's out of the bottle at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what else are we getting this trip? We got a good look at Firecracker.
Speaker 2:Firecracker, and I know there was another character, the one it's Sister.
Speaker 1:Sage yeah, Sister.
Speaker 2:Sage, and she's narrating the beginning of the trailer too. So, and again, gen V has been super important to what this season's gonna unfold into, because now, what I think possibly could happen is, you know the whole conceit, I guess we are just gonna spoil Gen V at this point. But you know, a big, a big, a big plot point was, you know, marie becoming the first black woman in the seven, and obviously that's not a thing anymore, because now she's not gonna be. I just I wonder how this is gonna play, because you gotta think that Gen V is just gonna be Like they're gonna all of them are gonna be in the season, like that's because what this season is saying, you know big spoilers, but this season is gonna be.
Speaker 2:It's essentially gonna be Joss Whedon's run on X-Men, where they came up with the cure, but now it's gonna be like an illness, like they're gonna try to take out and Victoria Newman's gonna try to take out every single soup on the planet at this point. So how this is gonna go, if this is gonna kill Homelander, maybe it can't kill Homelander, like all these things we're gonna, it's gonna, we're gonna have to see, but this is gonna be a heavy lift. My, my biggest burning question that I have from this is where's Huey? Yeah, huey was. Was he not in this?
Speaker 1:I don't think he was in the trailer at all. Yeah, that's no. I think there's a shot of him in Starlight walking out of somewhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that was the only shot of him in the entire trailer and he was our. That was a great catch. I didn't even notice. Yeah, that was our point of view character for 3C, Like he, is the one that we're supposed to follow through all this craziness, because he's, you know, this human that's just supposed to live amongst these world of these beings, these powerful beings. So where's Huey?
Speaker 1:I don't know. That was a great call, though, because I didn't even notice Until he said he was like was Huey in this? And I'm like, was he? So yeah, that's a great point. And then, yeah, I mean, we know, we also know that Butcher's clock is ticking because of all the artificial gen V he was taking last season. So you know, there's an element of kind of urgency there If he's indeed going to be the one to kill Homeland, or he kind of has to do it at this point.
Speaker 2:Yep, and we also get a new character through Jeffrey D Morgan, who I'm looking forward to yeah because I mean anytime you get Jeffrey. D Morgan in a project. It's good stuff.
Speaker 1:He's one actor away from completing the Supernatural Trinity, I know.
Speaker 2:Who would you have? What's his name? Jared Petalucky. Who would you have him play at this point In the Boys? Uhhmm, Gotta just make something up at this point. But.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, you'd have to, but I don't know. Ifhmm, do you make him a soup or do you make him like a government guy?
Speaker 2:No, I feel like a soup. He plays better as a soup. You know who he would have been good at. He would have been a good deep. I feel like he would have been a good deep.
Speaker 1:I mean, you can make a play on his stint in the Walker Texas Ranger show and make him like a soup gunslinger.
Speaker 2:Oh, like a soup, jonah Hex? Yeah, that would be funny. I don't really have one of those. No, they don't. I can't fit one.
Speaker 1:Like kind of like an old Western kind of gunslinger type. That would be fun, that would be so funny. You know, kind of like a get-shot.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know how they would play it. He's just a movie star. That's how you would play it. He's not an actual gunslinger?
Speaker 1:from the West.
Speaker 2:He's just on movie sets, as the gunslinger. He's like Johnny Cage, he's almost like Bullseye, like he doesn't miss. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he'd be like a boysbecause they don't really have a boys version of Deadshot.
Speaker 2:Deadshot orEric Kripke, give us a call.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't have a boys version of Deadshot or Deathstroke or anything like that, unless that's what Firecracker ends up being, because she does use guns.
Speaker 2:I just think she's going to be a cross between Maeve and Holblander, because both of them have read in their ledger, for lack of a better term. So I feel like she's going to be the fresh slate version of Maeve at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the guns thing that makes me think like, ah, maybe you know, or she's just going to be like the Punisher.
Speaker 2:But like yeah, punisher repackages this Captain America.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what if the Punisher buddy like sold out to the government or less? That's kind of the vibe I get, just based on her outfit. I guess we'll see.
Speaker 2:There's one more thing. We got to talk about the trailer that broke the internet, the long awaited trailer, and there's something you say in the beginning it's the games that we talked about. So there was a trailer for a game that just came out Stray, part 2.
Speaker 1:I wish, but man, yeah, it happened, we finally got it, gta 6. It's like one of those things where, like, grand Theft Auto V came out in 2013. Yep, same year as the Last of Us, part 1.
Speaker 2:That is crazy, insane, insane. And now we have a Last of Us TV show, last of Us, part 2.
Speaker 1:Last of Us, part 2 again. Last of Us, part 2. Last of Us, part 1 again.
Speaker 2:Yep and guess what we've gotten from GTA? Nothing, nothing Online. Fill the online output stuff. I'm in.
Speaker 1:I'm in. These guys at Rockstar are just, they're the best. They're the best. They really are. They just. You know you can say what they want about. You know how long it takes to develop these things. But my old adage, especially when it comes to games, is look, man, take as long as you want, but if you're going to give us a product that looks like this, pfft, fine. Like, if you're going to take 12 years to do another one, sure, I mean, this looks we might be playing this game for 15 years. It looks outstanding. Like it looks. The scope is just looks unbelievable.
Speaker 2:It's twice the size of the GTA 5 map, and the GTA 5 map is huge, like the amount of things that they pack into these GTA games, just from the story.
Speaker 1:We're just talking like yeah, and not even talking about like your NPCs, your random encounters, your side missions. We're just going to think our enemies, they're the best, they're going to be just nuts, nobody does it. Nobody does it Like them when it comes to like the depth and scale and just I mean, I just remember in Red Dead 2, just you walk through, what is that town? Valentine, valentine, yeah, don't make me play Red Dead 2 because I'll kill a buddy.
Speaker 2:I thought about it.
Speaker 1:I was looking real hard but I was like I got other stuff and you just walk into Valentine and all of a sudden I just see like two guys just plow through the window of the bar, the saloon, and they're just fighting and I'm just like what?
Speaker 2:Or is like I'm just riding my horse and I'm just like a person's on the side of the road, just like I need you to help me find this thing, and then they try to kill me, but I'm too fast you can run across the clan.
Speaker 1:Yup, murder the clan. You have a media murder.
Speaker 2:A media murder. No second thought of media murder.
Speaker 1:Like the amount of stuff and then like you think about it, like that's impressive, but then you realize like, oh no, like a person had to like sit down or team of people had to sit down and like program, all that Right To like, do that At like random points Right Is insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy, it's insane.
Speaker 1:And this is that, but like magnified Right.
Speaker 2:Yup, and I mean our point of view character Lucia. I mean she's. I feel like she's going to become iconic at some point when this game comes out. Yup, you know, the city just looks awesome by city. We're back. We're back in Vice City, but we're back in Florida. I wonder what are they going to call the state? Yeah true, I don't know, I guess it doesn't matter, but it just like. I just love the whole idea of like it's Vice City, but also Florida is a crazy place. So we're going to do it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we didn't even talk about the like, the Trevor, gta 5 influence of doing the whole state.
Speaker 1:Well, it's brilliant in the sense that, like so, the first time you see Vice City, obviously in GTA Vice City and it's Miami, obviously Miami Vice inspired very 80s Again, retro futurism kind of vibe. And then, like, as the perception of the state of Florida evolved, so has Vice City evolved you know what I mean To the point where, like Florida, is just this hive, to quote Star Wars, is the hive of scum and villainy and which is really ripe for a GTA game.
Speaker 2:Just like they played it well for for California and GTA.
Speaker 1:And would be city as well, yeah.
Speaker 2:Right Now. This is the best realized version of that you could probably ask for, and then some.
Speaker 1:It's insane. And it's like insane but like still believable, because you're like, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:I can't wait for the parodies of, especially in the like post 2020, the parrot. I yeah, not wait for the things that they put into this game. Yeah the guy fighting the alligator, like, and you saw the thing where, like all the people you see are like actual people from like the news and stuff, like from actual Florida, like that's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean you know just their writing is always super sharp, um, in terms of like their satire, um is always brilliant, um, especially in the gta games. The red dead's red dead is less so on the parody, satire stuff, on this elements of it, but the gta stuff is really that's the point, like that's the point for gca.
Speaker 1:It's a video game version of south park in terms of like the satire, right um you know. Go back to the whatever the facebook analog was in in gta 5 with you know, oh yeah, yeah, but the mark zuckerberg esque character, yep Um it just gets killed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's like I said. I just especially like the last five years. I mean last 12 years, but specifically the last five years of our like. I cannot wait for what they try to do with all.
Speaker 1:Oh, if you're, if you're, yeah, I mean Everything's on table, like there's gonna be probably like a covert thing.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, just now it's probably after that in this oh, I can't. I can't wait to do what they try to do.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be Like I said, they're riding over there with rock stars, just on a different level. Um, their creativity is on a different level, like it's and this game graphically, like I didn't even talk about the technical stuff Um, this is the type of game that you make a next-gen system for more or less 300 gigs easily 500 you're gonna need two consoles just to download this game.
Speaker 1:Oh, easily. Yeah, this is easily gonna mean, unless they found a way to Compress it, which I doubt. Nobody's figured it out yet. No one's figured out how to do it with any of these next-gen games, you're gonna.
Speaker 2:This might be the only game you can have on your system when you're trying to play it like it's gonna be insane, but like you know, we didn't even talk about online, which gta oh that's the money maker for them. Yeah, gta 5 online has been surviving since 2013. It's gonna survive for 12 years, until this game comes out, and it still is cycling new stuff. Yeah, like it just is normal. Like imagine what?
Speaker 1:they made more money on gta online than actual sales of gta 5, which was already One of the yeah, one of the biggest games that had ever been released.
Speaker 2:So I played. Obviously I played gta 5 way too young.
Speaker 1:Then I probably we all played gta I. Mine was grand theft auto 3. It was the first gta game I ever played. I think I was like 13, like over 13.
Speaker 2:If it was g, I was. I think I was I think I was 14 when I was playing gta, gta 5, so it was just like lord, like I, probably just, and that's crazy. Like now it's now, I'm not 14 anymore.
Speaker 1:And I'm yeah. Gta 3 came out in 2001. So I was like 10 or 11 Should we have been playing this game?
Speaker 2:No, did it form us into the people that we are?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Um yeah, that was back before I had any concepts of story or anything like that. I just run around, just Be the worst person For lack of a better phrase like you don't play gta to drive around the math Like uh no, no, there's too much, too much to do, too much going on there.
Speaker 2:You're gonna be able to like work a nine to five in this game.
Speaker 1:I bet you I can't imagine like the stuff they pack into gta 5 is insane Like you ever like 2013 you like you ever just be on the phone in gta 5 and just like scroll on the internet Mm-hmm, like all the different websites and like stuff to do, like in the websites and like places to go?
Speaker 1:The customization in this game might just oh the internet like it's just gonna yeah, it's Like what the and I mean it's you know a testament to how grandiose the game is that they put the trailer on the games not even coming out next year, right, they know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Of course, the first gameplay hits for this oh, people are gonna lose their minds. It's gonna just.
Speaker 1:Oh man and it's not even gonna mean any vastly different, like I think that formula has never changed. No, across gta or red dead the front, you get third person behind the shot, you got your weapon wheel. It's gonna be that right. But but florida, yeah, yeah, um, yeah, I can't. I mean that's already. You like what? Right cut the check, sign it. Game of the year 2025? It's gonna be gta 6. Right, um, um. Well, straight two comes out. Let's straight two comes out, because I mean, how do you beat it? How do you beat it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just just there's nothing, I don't know what. And uh, you know what we said, what that too is, uh, marvel's wolverine, probably. You know. This is great, like great across the board, because that game's probably gonna have to take the october slot in 2024. Because I don't see a, I don't see a universe where that wolverine game comes out in the same year of gta 5. It's gonna get, I wouldn't demolished like that every get away with it.
Speaker 1:Maybe if you do it like one beginning of the year, one end of the year, right.
Speaker 2:But I just think gta is probably gonna take either the march slot or the summer slot of 2025.
Speaker 1:March slot's probably a good slot. That's probably the best place for it.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't try because and again, if you put the, if you put wolverine and what I think is gonna be the new Spiderman slot, like the october slot, yeah, you might be able to just do that for any of those marvel games that you're gonna continue to do. Just take the october slot every year and then other games are probably gonna try not to infringe on you during that time.
Speaker 1:And that hinges, you know, everything hinges upon, you know, kind of segwaying to what we're gonna talk about next week, which is we're gonna recap the game awards. Tonight's a big night.
Speaker 1:It's evolved man, we're kind of, we're kind of gonna get, we're kind of gonna get a, a feeler for what next year is gonna look like. Tonight, mm-hmm, um, tonight's the night. Like I said, tonight is the night. Um, like I said last week, like summer games fest is getting to be a bigger deal. Um, jeff keely is doing his best to kind of be like a, like a dual kind of like. Both my things are huge, right, but the game award truly is like the big thing. That's like it's the oscars of gaming. At this point, like the game awards has been around, this will be the. I think the 10th or 11th year the game awards at this point for jeff, and like the, the, like the. The exponential growth in the popularity of just the game awards over the last 10 years Is sounding quite frankly, I didn't know about it until the 2018 game awards, like that that was.
Speaker 2:This was the thing.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, it was because it went from like, it was like a biblical year it was like what was it red dead, that was red, that was red. Yeah, that was red. That, that was the red dead god of war year.
Speaker 2:A god of war like that year of gaming alone was like, yeah, insane and ever since then I mean Credits.
Speaker 1:You know people like to kind of back on jeff for kind of his kind of leaning into Like the celebrity of it all and like the grant like, but like so he's made, he's made gaming like cool.
Speaker 2:Like through the game awards, like all these studios in the chemistry, shallow me presenting tonight all these game studios in the next Five years are game studios. All these movie and tv show studios are gonna take games and be like, oh, this is the coolest thing on the planet, like well, I mean, it's happening right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean cd project. Red Just did it with cyberpunk with. They built that game around counter eaves. And then phantom liberty just came out with An eager's elbows the main character eager's elbows up for a game award for best performance.
Speaker 2:Right and and what's gonna start to happen? And I mean you talked about this before. I bet you that actors are gonna start going over to games, because then they don't have to worry. All they can do whatever they want in these games, like they can really get down to the nitty-gritty acting is two of the actors In performance of the year for the game.
Speaker 1:Awards are eager's elbow and camera monahan right.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. So, uh, obviously we'll talk about everything. We'll break everything down. Who is nominated for the best performances of the year? I'm very curious to hear about this.
Speaker 1:So best performance, game awards. I know, obviously I said all right, so game awards. Can I please get some nominees please? Oh, no, server error, jeff. What are you doing with your website, dammit man? All right, so we got eager's elbow from. Uh, so cyberpunk 2020, cyberpunk 2017, which shout out to them, by the way? Um, I don't want to just just real quick on cyberpunk. That game was dead when they came out under statement. That game was people were getting refunds For that game. Um, then they dropped fandom liberty and man Just fixed it. They just fixed it. So we have all right. So we have eager's elbow. Salam, and read cyberpunk fandom liberty. Um, melanie labird from alan wake 2. She's the other point of view character in alan wake 2.
Speaker 2:I like some good things about her as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, alan wake 2 is up to for game of the year. One of the game of the year nominees? Uh, urie loventhal obviously um spider-man 2 why?
Speaker 2:don't you pop some more pills and tell me what you really feel. Give give them the award. Give it to them.
Speaker 1:Uh, camera monahan for calcestus. Um, neil newbann is a starian for balgers gate 3, which balgers gate 3 is just going to clean up this year. That's basically except probably in this category it's probably we're the only place balgers gate 3. And then, uh, ben star as clave rossfield in final fantasy 16, who I'm pretty sure is going to win. Um, because a lot of people, you can say what you want about final fantasy 16, but the one thing that's undeniable is one, the music, and two, ben star. They do have a music award, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah there's the best scoring music alan wake 2 balgers, gate 3.
Speaker 1:Final fantasy 16 high-fi russian legends of the tears of the kingdom. Um, so I would expect Final fantasy 16 to probably win best scoring music and I would expect ben star to win, uh, best performance.
Speaker 2:You think that the only other person in that category that I think could give him any contest was probably Urie loventhal. Yeah, yeah, I would probably agree with that, see, and that's my that's my, and obviously You're, you're more in depth on this than me.
Speaker 2:My only thing that I keep thinking about for this is how much of the popularity of gaming is going to influence picks in this, because that's what happened in the oscars. I remember 2018 was the actual year that this started to happen, where I felt the popularity of the situation starts to outweigh the actual Winners of some of some things. It's happened. I wouldn't say it has. It's definitely happened at the game awards.
Speaker 1:Um, I forget what year comes to mind for that. Um, maybe it was 20, not 2020, might have been 2019, when, um it was 2019. Let me look at these. No sector. I won in 2019. That was pretty. It's usually, honestly, it was probably breath of the wild. When breath of the wild won Um game of the year, people were like, okay, like you. Just that's why a lot of people were thinking like this year, like balder's gate 3 feels like it's gonna win, but also there's a Zelda game in this. Um, like tears of the kingdom is also nominated for game of the year. So people were like, are they just? Is it just gonna be tears of the kingdom because it's zelda, whereas, like I'm have not finished balder's gate 3, but from all accounts, it's like the most mind-bending rpg Made in the last like five or ten years. Um, so I don't know, we'll see. Um man, guardians of the galaxy won best narrative last year. I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2:I love it times and finish or 2021. Sorry, yeah 2021.
Speaker 1:Wow, why don't I remember that happening, did you? Were too enthralled with the game there's just your mind wasn't working right.
Speaker 2:What a game we. We were just talking about this game two days ago. How incredible that game is Wow, that game really won best. Narrative good good.
Speaker 1:I? That's genuinely surprised. Yeah, genuinely don't remember that. Um, oh, they do, so they do have a best narrative. They do what? What do we got?
Speaker 2:for this year, uh, for 2023 narrative, let's see Bing I didn't think we were gonna launch down those Talking about the game. Well, it helps that it's like an hour.
Speaker 1:Best narrative alan wake. 2, balder's gate. 3 Phantom liberty. Wow, phantom liberty got Nominated as an expansion, which is nuts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is insane.
Speaker 1:Um fan fancy 16 and spider-man 2. Um, that feels oh, Alan wake 2 could win that.
Speaker 2:I. I'm thinking the same thing too.
Speaker 1:Alan, like 2, probably wins that to be, honest. Yeah, I think balder's gate 3 ultimately wins game of the year, but I think alan wake 2 will probably win best narrative.
Speaker 2:I have a feeling that something's gonna happen with that game of the year. I just have a sneaking suspicion. Something's gonna happen, something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1:Jeff's gonna get bum rushed again later last year.
Speaker 2:Oh no, not the kid, the kids coming. He's coming back. Maybe have him be the.
Speaker 1:Maybe get ahead of the narrative and have him be the presenter man yeah, I'm excited, I mean I've it's, it's, it's funny, like and this is how I know the game awards is, and I don't want to keep bagging on about the game awards, but I know it's evolved because, um, now it felt like well back, you know, the last couple of years it felt like people were just tuning in for the reveals and like the world premieres.
Speaker 1:but now I feel like people are tuning in to like see who wins the things and like I feel like that's a drastic shift from where we were, you know, even five years ago. Right, with the game awards, we're like people just like show me the world premieres, but now it's more like no, we actually want to see what you know wins right, which I think is really awesome. I think we're in a great place. Um, that's it. That's it. Wrap this, wrap this sucker up. Um, so yeah, that's gonna do it for us. This week we had some Insane week for trailers Um, can't wait.
Speaker 1:A lot of that stuff looks really really good. Um, house of the dragon. I guess we can end on that. Like, out of all the things that we talked about, what is your most kind of that you're looking forward to?
Speaker 2:I mean, on paper it's house of the dragon, but I'm, I'm just so interested in that world will fall out at this point. It's just it. That trailer hit like a ton of bricks, like I said, it just was. It came out of like nowhere. It just was super exciting. And I'm, I'm just, I want to see, I think I'm more excited to see what amazon prime has ahead of them. That's not, the boys are invincible. That's probably what I'm more excited for. That's a good call.
Speaker 2:I want to see what I want to see if they can start to really put their name in the head of, like this studio that can contend with netflix and it, because, as of right now, hbo, hbo or it's like that, is the top dog. In my opinion, netflix, netflix, narratively, is being held by stranger things at this point and that shows coming to an end, so, um. And now there's this stigma behind netflix where it's like oh, this, you know it's the same thing that movie had. Like, oh, the netflix productions look bad, like, they're just, they're kind of weird and dumb, like, and HBO Is like the king. They own a day of the week for releases, like sunday night. If you release on sunday night, you're like it's HBO time.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't know, like I don't know, if prime's gonna get there, but obviously the boys is helping them a lot, like a lot of a lot. So I just want to see what they're gonna look like like. I want to see what, obviously, we're gonna get god of war on top of that. And no, zahel, chad zahelski, that's not a movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's gonna be a movie.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's prime studios, right.
Speaker 2:No, no, no it's not, but yeah, yeah, it's so many, obviously, yeah, um, but, like I said, we're getting god of war out of them. We're getting this. Mr and mrs Smith looks good. And then I can go down the catalog of the stuff. They actually have reach or something that's super popular, that they have running, like they have Stuff already. Um, you know, say what you will about rings of power, but it still that show still looks really good. So, um, I I'm in love with their production value, I'm in love with what they're doing over there. So, um, and you can tell they're very creative focus, creator, focus.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I'd agree with that. Um, I mean, house of the dragon for me is just, I mean, it just looks like it's gonna be Just really special and they're gonna do something with this season that they they've never done. Um, in game of thrones, which is really Focus a whole season around which I which was my whole why I liked house of the dragon the first place is, yes, it was still a pretty large cast of characters, but it was really centralized around this one Family. Yep, you know, and I think that really helped, helped it. Um, and I think this is gonna be more of that where Now we have this family, this one family is now splintered into two factions, and how they kind of Maneuver around each other and against each other, I think is really interesting, whereas in, like, game of thrones, it was, you know, five or six different families at any given time kind of warring with each other, and here we have these definitive two factions, these these really interesting characters on the opposite ends of it, and you know how they kind of bring the entire country to their knees in the midst of their civil war.
Speaker 1:Um, which is insane. Um, when you think about it is you're gonna get all these other families Looped into the civil war. That truly has nothing to do with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I mean you know Also the world building for actual, for the actual game of thrones, like you know, just go like Luke, go get me the Baratheons and the undersea, like all those things. I think they do it, but they do it with class. I think it's something, it's not.
Speaker 1:We know one of the through lines of the season is just seris going to the Starks.
Speaker 1:Yep, and you know I like that they're building up how stark is like like the trump card, because, like they're so well insulated in the north where, like David said in Game of Thrones, like I think you know, even Cersei is wise enough to not send an army up to the north because it's this impregnable like fortress, so you know that's going to be interesting thing, like if Jacerys gets the Starks you know to to their side. You know that potentially turns the tides of a war because, right, everyone kind of knows that House Stark and the north is a different breed. Right, because it's House Stark and then it's all the families in the north under the banner of House Stark, like the north is, is unique in that regard, where, like they, you know, they true, the truly is a king in the north, like it's all that's the House Stark and then all these families fall under that banner. Um, so it's gonna be, that's gonna be interesting to see, um, I wonder if House of Trades is up there.
Speaker 1:So yeah, man, I'm just looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to like just this focus this on the centralized conflict. Um, it's super interesting to me because it's something they've never done yeah, with Game of Thrones before, and I mean just for that to end it.
Speaker 2:It's, it's, it's that, but then it's, it's also like it's the character work on top of that. It's just the emotional stake in this and how personal it feels I just think is really imistakable and it's really just. You know, it's something to revel in, like how, how incredible, they understand and how, how tight knit they understand all these relationships between these people. Yes, and I mean just the the, the verses match up of the century is just Allison versus Renea, because, you know, best friends turn mortal enemies.
Speaker 1:Like it's something so simple, but it's something that can really hold the heaviest punch yeah, yeah, can't wait, really can't wait, but that's gonna do it for us this week. You can follow us on twitter at project inf underscore pod. You can follow us on facebook. You can follow us on instagram at the project infinite pod, and next week we're gonna talk. Obviously, game awards fall out, for lack of a better word. And maybe another thing maybe the hunger games, maybe the hunger games, maybe not.
Speaker 2:Oh, what was? Oh, we might do Godzilla. Oh yeah, we could do Godzilla, minus one. Um, I know what was. What was the thing from before we were supposed to talk about what never did? Was it dungeons and dragons? No, it wasn't, it was something else. I don't remember. We're gonna have to find it before times it was.
Speaker 1:It was something that was just evading us for the longest time and we said we would talk about it and we just never, never circled back a year, we just would never talk about it but yeah, we might, maybe we'll uh do game awards and talk a little Godzilla yeah we ventured out to see it that I'm, I know I'm, I'm back.
Speaker 2:This is like you know lizard cinema yeah, lizard cinema. You know the house of the dragon. You know how, like Mariah Carey, defrost in December. This is when I defrost for, like me, being a pretentious film kid, because now it's now. It's that time of year where all all the Oscar bait is gonna hit.
Speaker 1:Can a lizard win?
Speaker 2:best actor, see, and let's talk about it for a second, because I think that I think you can can you make a lizard best actor?
Speaker 1:I think you can.
Speaker 2:Oh man imagine imagine imagine I'm really looking for I mean, uh, so I have a, I'm trying to pull off a double feature, um of May, december and the holdover, so two, two movies that have been getting a lot of praise. The holdover.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've heard a lot of great stuff from from Paul Givati in that movie, so I'm really looking forward to that. And then you heard this whole theory about, like Riverdale's been a pipeline for getting some top tier actors because, um, you know, and it was, it was awesome to see um on a serious don't. Uh, charles Melton was, um, he won the award for best supporting actor and you know it bought him to tears. That you know, obviously. You know he's a good-looking guy. He's on, you know, this network television show that's not taken seriously. And now, you know, he, at this point in the award season, is giving very high contention for possibly winning best supporting actor.
Speaker 2:Um, the only people that I can think are it's it's either Robert Downing Jr or Robert De Niro, and then Charles, and you know, and again, it's, it's not the fact that if he's gonna win or not, it's just the idea of, like this younger person to them is gonna be in the same category with Robert De Niro and um and um, robert Downing Jr, like that's amazing. Yeah, I'm, you know that's that's awesome. Like this is, you know, another piece of wild love movies. It's like things like this of like, they're so expansive.
Speaker 2:It doesn't need to be these titans of industry like it's. Just you know, this guy that was just on some tv shows and in some movies, just like you know, he finally got the chance to give like this performance of his career, up to his point, he was on the best tv show. One day we'll talk about Riverdale and the I'm dying and just the dying too, absurdities of that universe.
Speaker 1:I'm dying how we got. If you showed, if you showed me season one and then the last season and then last season whiplash and not the good whiplash with jk Simmons the bad whiplash.
Speaker 2:That is the bad whiplash. Yeah, the good whiplash is Iron man 2 whiplash. I want my book. My bird yeah, I get you bird. I get you 10 birds, I want my bird. All right, and the episode we do gotta go, man.
Speaker 1:All right, guys, there are seven seasons of that show, holy moly, um, uh, yeah, we're starting, we're getting out of here. We did all the plugs, we did all the things, we did what we're talking about next week. So the only thing we got left is from me, careful, from from the resident lone wanderer of the podcast oh yes, then I survived the nuclear war.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm the main character. I knew the main character.
Speaker 1:Do I get a cool weapon? Uh, depends, depends on your build. Oh, cool.
Speaker 2:I got like a sword of some court.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some kind of some kind they got swords, didn't fall out, nice uh like a buster sword. If I'm to get a sword, nah, I don't even have a buster sword but I didn't say that I did.
Speaker 2:You get a big hammer, ah. I'm like you can get a rocket launcher that shoots mini nukes yeah, I'm, I'm there, I'm gonna look at myself and, like all like the Oppenheimer edits I've been seeing just like you can get a laser gun is that a laser gun?
Speaker 1:I love what you did tomorrow actually, yeah, they got heaps of stuff and fall out. It's great, I love fallout. You could do morally ambiguous things. You can blow up a town. Hmm, that's good stuff. I'd love fallout man. All right, that's it, we're out of here. We'll see you next week. Maybe some definitely some game awards, maybe maybe a little Godzilla lizard cinema lizard cinema, you've been told.
Speaker 2:We're doing all right, guys.
Speaker 1:We will see you next week. Goodbye peace.