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Lights, camera, action—our cinema draft is about to take you on a fantasy ride through the realms of film like never before. Court and I serve up a smorgasbord of movie magic, adaptations, and the thrill of crafting the ultimate fantasy movie theater. From the nostalgic lure of '80s classics to the cutting-edge excitement of today's blockbusters, we're stocking our silver screens with a lineup that's bound to stir the film buff in you. And don't miss our wildcard picks, where we let our imaginations run wild with the dream adaptations we're itching to see.
We talk the return of Bullseye in Daredevil: Born Again and our conversation takes a turn down the red carpet as we recap this year's Oscar nominations, from the powerhouse performances to the visionary directors and cinematographers shaping the future of film. We've got the buzz on who's who in the race for those golden statuettes, and we of course address the pink elephant NOT in the room.
As we wrap up our cinematic journey, we put on our casting director hats and dream up the perfect ensemble for movie adaptations of "Infamous" and "Alan Wake." Imagine the dark, brooding streets of Empire City brought to life, or the eerie narrative of Bright Falls unfolding on the big screen. Overall, this was a fun episode that I think you’ll enjoy! Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
01:30 Wilson Bethel returning as Bullseye in Daredevil: Born Again
06:31 Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Revealed!
13:52 Supergirl Actress Finalists
18:27 Avatar: The Last Airbender Netflix Trailer
20:38 Oscars 2024 Nomination Discussion!
42:28 The Project Infinite Podcast CINEMA DRAFT
01:38:00 What We’ve Been Up To! Court –Doing His Own Thing Rob – The Last of Us Part II
01:45:20 Signing Off, Topic For Next Week (The Last of Us Part II Review For Real This Time)
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Lights, camera, action—our cinema draft is about to take you on a fantasy ride through the realms of film like never before. Court and I serve up a smorgasbord of movie magic, adaptations, and the thrill of crafting the ultimate fantasy movie theater. From the nostalgic lure of '80s classics to the cutting-edge excitement of today's blockbusters, we're stocking our silver screens with a lineup that's bound to stir the film buff in you. And don't miss our wildcard picks, where we let our imaginations run wild with the dream adaptations we're itching to see.
We talk the return of Bullseye in Daredevil: Born Again and our conversation takes a turn down the red carpet as we recap this year's Oscar nominations, from the powerhouse performances to the visionary directors and cinematographers shaping the future of film. We've got the buzz on who's who in the race for those golden statuettes, and we of course address the pink elephant NOT in the room.
As we wrap up our cinematic journey, we put on our casting director hats and dream up the perfect ensemble for movie adaptations of "Infamous" and "Alan Wake." Imagine the dark, brooding streets of Empire City brought to life, or the eerie narrative of Bright Falls unfolding on the big screen. Overall, this was a fun episode that I think you’ll enjoy! Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
01:30 Wilson Bethel returning as Bullseye in Daredevil: Born Again
06:31 Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Revealed!
13:52 Supergirl Actress Finalists
18:27 Avatar: The Last Airbender Netflix Trailer
20:38 Oscars 2024 Nomination Discussion!
42:28 The Project Infinite Podcast CINEMA DRAFT
01:38:00 What We’ve Been Up To! Court –Doing His Own Thing Rob – The Last of Us Part II
01:45:20 Signing Off, Topic For Next Week (The Last of Us Part II Review For Real This Time)
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Speaker 1:Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Project Infinite Podcast, the podcast covering the infinite and ever-expanding multiverse of fandom for movies, comics, tv shows, video games. We got you covered. I'm Rob. I'm here, as always, with Qort. Qort, it's Oscar season. It is Oscar season, that's it. That's it. That's the whole episode. Alright, we'll see you next week. No, but yeah, the Oscars nominations have been released. Some expected, some unexpected.
Speaker 1:Qort will talk all about that and I will listen very patiently and insert things when I feel like it. Otherwise, I'm clear now. But that has blood into our. We got a fun little gimmick today. So it's a cinema draft essentially. I'll explain the rules of said draft when we get to it, but I think it'll be a bit of fun. I'm excited. We haven't done a fun thing in a while. It's either a review or we're complaining about something, so it'll be nice to just have a nice little fun little gimmick to talk about. So I can't wait for that. But other than that, we do have a bit of news and I guess apparently Daredevil News is going to be our new running runner.
Speaker 2:Well, it's our new Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1:It's our new Oppenheimer, it's our new runner, because it seems like every week now we are getting news on Daredevil Born again Returning cast members. Now we have another confirmation that the actor portraying Bullseye from Daredevil Season 3 is in fact returning as Bullseye in Daredevil Born again, and much like last week when we talked about Debra and Woll and Elden Hansen coming back. Good decision, I think.
Speaker 2:My take that I'll hit is I think it's equally as important to bring him back too, because now what you can really supplant is you know, obviously Kingpin is Daredevil's, you know that's his joker, you know you still have other rogues, and Bullseye is like the physical rogue that can really cause him to have a bad day. I just think that's something that has it's like a perfect antithesis physically to Matt. I want to see a full fledged. You know, obviously She-Hulk showed us and other projects showed us that within the MCU we're going to get some comic accuracy on some things. So I'm really excited to see like a fully fledged Bullseye. And also the actor that played Bullseye is just. He was magnificent in that show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. One of the more psychologically compelling villains that we've seen in any superhero show or movie honestly Insane take.
Speaker 2:Did he look better in the Daredevil suit than Charlie Cox did? Ooh, maybe it's his jawline fits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he did, he did pull that off, he did pull that suit off. Pretty good, hello.
Speaker 2:Karen, it's nice to see you again.
Speaker 1:That's not Daredevil, you're not Daredevil. And when you ordered Daredevil, on which which one comes, the one I can see, presumably. Come on, man.
Speaker 2:I was watching you guys all night, were you.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean that show is resumed production or restarted production. Restart, I think it's more accurate.
Speaker 2:I think it's more of a restart. It's probably going to be the same thing they're going to do for Blade as well. With Mahershali. We're going to start from the ground up. I mean, the whole team is different, and this is something we talk about all the time is how important your team is, that you add on to these projects as much as these actors that you want to say we're going to put this actor in that role. Let's just say, take the last of us, for example, we're just going to put Pedro Pascal and Bella Rams in these roles.
Speaker 2:It doesn't work like that. You need a team behind to execute this vision that you have, and it just seems like this new age Daredevil team that they just put back and some returning people. I believe they got the fight choreographer from season one back, which is huge. You get the Punisher showrunner yes and you get the Loki Directors. The Loki Directors like it's perfect, because the Loki Directors are going to have a good way to bridge them between that seriousness of the Netflix stuff and the realism and then also that grand scale MCU piece that Loki was bridging the line between, Especially in season two.
Speaker 2:Season two of Loki, obviously it was big. It was big in scale and it was a massive scale show but it really felt there was this level of realism laid over Loki season two which I think Daredevil will appreciate. Obviously, the Punisher showrunner is a good get and then just having the fight choreographers to get some assemblies back of season one. It's just they're making all the correct moves right now and you know, say what you will about the past making mistakes, they're fixing the mistakes. I will, that's what I appreciate.
Speaker 1:Seems that way. Yeah, for sure, and they're downsizing the show. So RIP to our, to our 18 episodes.
Speaker 2:We had that bit for a while, but it seemed. I do have a feeling they're going to do the 13. It feels, like this dirt, and especially after Echo canonized essentially the entire Netflix, the Netflix catalog and was responsible for a noted uptick in people on Disney plus.
Speaker 1:going back and watching specifically the first two seasons of Daredevil and season one of the Punisher got a got a noticeable uptick in viewership. So clearly something with Echo worked and it's got.
Speaker 2:Echo's got probably one of the most important. It's funny Echo probably has one of the single most important post credit scenes of the entire phase four, phase five, right now, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I think all this is good news. I think they're there, like I said, I think I said this last week where it feels like they're they're making this Daredevil show important. I mean, in a perfect world you would want all of your things to to feel important, but it specifically feels like they are. They have their kind of you know, lens focused on on the Daredevil show for whatever reason, whether that's to make kind of Kingpin, the Thanos of the streets or whatever the case is, if they're going to try and build something around Charlie Cox. Whatever the case is, it's all trending in a positive direction. So, moving on to some other news, so we got an Indiana Jones, the game got revealed. So Indiana Jones and the Great Circle title.
Speaker 2:It's, that's Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1:It's all right, it's OK.
Speaker 2:They fell asleep at the wheel bit with the name.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, I think it's a little, it's a little lazy, but whatever. So dial destiny isn't dial destiny, it's had the last crusade Sounds good. Speaking of last crusade, it's so good. I love that the game takes place between Raiders of Lost Ark, and Last Crusade is developed by Bethesda.
Speaker 2:You know it also takes place between Raiders of the Lost Ark and, in the last crusade, Temple of Doom.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's such a weird way to put it because, like a movie takes place between that to like like which half does it take place on? During Temple of Doom? What is it cooking? It's a Temple of Doom cutscene.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this movie is this movie, this game developed by Bethesda. So for those of you who aren't familiar with Bethesda, it's essentially the Fallout series, elder Scrolls, which you know, people who don't know where, kind of like shell shocked, I guess, by the fact that this is going to be a first person game. But that's Bethesda's wheelhouse. They do first person kind of action, adventure RPG or adventure RPGs. Essentially they got the likeness of Harrison Ford, which I was a little surprised by. Me too.
Speaker 2:I'm actually really surprised by that as well. So I imagine he's probably getting some type of royalty for that Sure I mean maybe that and to be honest, that could have been part of a deal that he took to make sure he came after Dyle Destin. For sure it might have been something that he wanted.
Speaker 1:I mean, it looks just like him. Yeah, so it's definitely his likeness, but who's voicing?
Speaker 1:Indiana Jones. Yeah, so I mean, you know this is. He's one of the you know, mount Rushmore of video game voice actors. It's Troy Baker. Troy Baker is voicing Indiana. He sounds great, he sounds just like. I mean, I'm not surprised. I mean, troy Baker is, he's like a chameleon, he's one of the, he's one of the best voice actors that you can get for a video game. I mean, you know, I don't have to, I don't have to go down the list of roles that that Troy Baker is done. Most, I mean maybe most notably is Joel from Last of Us is probably his current most notable role as a voice actor. So, yeah, I think I think that's a great get.
Speaker 1:I did make the comment to you. I think it's funny that PlayStation's Indiana Jones is Nathan Drake, who's voiced by Nolan North, and then actual Indiana Jones is being voiced by Troy Baker. And, yeah, this is, as far as we know, this is going to be an Xbox exclusive. You know, as part of their deal when Microsoft bought Bethesda. Disney seems to be supportive of that and you know, you know this is. This is bound to happen, and you know, I'm on the one side of the coin when people are like you know, how do you, how do you feel when it's not PlayStation getting all the exclusives?
Speaker 2:It is what it is, man, that's like because you can't have your cake and eat it too, because everybody's whole conceit is will PlayStation's, you know, destroying Xbox. So Xbox might get this blade game. We don't know about that either. And Xbox is getting this Indiana Jones game. So now you can't be upset now because you're acting like these people that have Xbox were able to play spider, like these massive games Spider-Man, ghost of Tsushima, the Last of Us.
Speaker 1:You know, we talk all the time about these, these console sellers, and and there's nothing more of a console seller than an exclusive. I mean, god of War is a console seller, spider-man is a console seller.
Speaker 2:The Last of Us.
Speaker 1:Uncharted. Yeah, like these are all console sellers. So stray, stray. Xbox for the longest time had Halo. Halo was a console seller. Halo is not a console seller any longer. So Xbox needs something like this a big IP, a big name attached to it. You know, even though it's not Harrison Ford's voice, it's his likeness, like something you can put on the on the poster of Xbox and be like this is our thing. We have this. So, yeah, I think it's cool. I think the game pay looks cool. You know, it's interesting. It's an interesting thing that it's Bethesda doing this and it's going to be first person.
Speaker 2:And I think it's actually smart in a weird way to differentiate it from Uncharted to be honest, I can help you a little bit, and also the mystique of Indiana Jones might also add into that a bit. I also to. I'm going to contest your whole point that you just made, even though I agree I wouldn't be surprised if they add a third person mode at some point.
Speaker 1:Well, bethesda usually does. I know Skyrim and Fallon both have third person kind of options and you know they kind of do look a little wonky sometimes. But I know a lot of people do prefer to play their Bethesda games in third person and that's why.
Speaker 2:I talk about the contest, because it's not like you're having this character. That's somebody, it's Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think that's the good part about it, because you know, a lot of the thing people complain about with Bethesda games is like I spent all this time in character creation and it's first person Indiana Jones. You don't have to worry about that. Yeah, Does he got a leather jacket?
Speaker 2:He's got a whip he looks like Harrison Ford.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did it. Send him on his way. So that's cool. I'm excited to see. I mean, I'm not going to go out and buy an Xbox to play this. I'll probably jump on Twitch watch someone play it.
Speaker 2:You're better than me. I'm going to go to Walmart and play it in the display case. Definitely do that anymore. What happened to the world?
Speaker 1:I like Bethesda is taking physical gaming media out of stores. I know that's so crazy to me.
Speaker 2:I don't like it, and it's funny. We also just had a conversation about streaming and cable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean there's a whole other discussion. I mean, ubisoft's CEO came out and said that gamers are going to have to get comfortable with the fact that they don't own the games that they play. Sir, interesting, maybe not a great take as a CEO. I'm looking at you, bob Iger. Don't say that as a CEO of a gaming company. Maybe, don't, maybe, don't do that. What other gaming thing that I want to hit? Oh, the Suicide Squad. We got a Joker reveal. Did you see this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did, and can I say something Not bad. I mean, hey, that Does he not look a bit like Barry Keogan? Yeah, just a tad bit. This whole thing is just the Suicide Squad thing is just confusing. I don't understand what it's an.
Speaker 1:Elseworlds Joker, because obviously it's the Arkham universe and the Arkham Joker is dead, so you have to like.
Speaker 2:It's such an iconic Joker on top of that, it's Mark Hamill. I just I don't understand what the sell of this game is. I don't understand. It's out next week, and guess what I'm not doing?
Speaker 1:next week. I'm not playing it Me, neither I'm not doing it. We'll see. We'll see. Maybe one day I'll pick it up on it's free, I'll pick it up on a sale one day. Maybe At least we can play it together. Yeah, with the Avengers. Oh man, I'll, I'll check it out. If it's, you know, we should review the Avengers one day.
Speaker 2:That review might be 10 minutes. Yeah, it will be so we got.
Speaker 1:Cool.
Speaker 2:Kamala Khan storyline Live service. That's the game.
Speaker 1:Gross, great voice acting Great voice actors Across the board Troy Baker.
Speaker 2:Troy.
Speaker 1:Baker, troy Baker and Nova North, north, north North. Yeah, oh man, that game Moving on, we got some. So we talked to Two weeks ago about the Supergirl casting rumors and now we are circling a finalist. We have two, we're down to two. It's like the American Idol. So Meg Donnelly, who is most notable for a lot of Disney CW stuff, very like young up and coming, you know, hasn't really had a defining role, I would say. And then Millie Alcock, who everybody knows now from House of the Dragon, those are your two finalists and two great choices, I think.
Speaker 2:Two very interesting choices, yep, and I think the interest lies on what the opposite of each other are going to bring if they get cast Right, because I told you this. So if you get Meg Donnelly, I think you get the archetype of what Supergirl looks like and you get a better upside of. She can make it whoever she turns like, whatever she wants to turn this role in. I also think she probably plays off David Korn's sweat a little bit better in terms of looks. But I think Millie Alcock is a better actress. Like on paper she's a better actress and I think if you, if we're in this James Gunn verse of like these, like quirky, like little bit of weirdness, little sprinkler weirdness, like I feel like Millie Alcock fits that and also the Supergirl woman of tomorrow, that's the thing in the room that you have to pay attention to. I think Millie Alcock's acting fits that book a little bit more because she's like brash and she just is over it and doesn't care. She's Australian.
Speaker 2:And she cares. Oh, maybe Supergirl.
Speaker 1:Australian. Now that would be fun. No, yeah, I think that's a great point. The point I had made to you earlier was these two choices basically to me boiled down to what does James Gunn want out of this role? Does he want a person who is kind of already a star and kind of a scent them, or does he want to make a star, which I think, if you can't, don't leave, which I think is the McDonald thing, like if you cast her, this person who has done Disney shows, she's done, she did the Winchester spin off on CW, so she hasn't had that breakthrough role yet.
Speaker 1:I think if you, if they go with her I think that's James Gunn saying, hey, this is watch out, like, yeah, exactly it's going to be. You know, you know it's it's, it's going to be that star making performance, like here she is, here's our, here's her big break and we're shooting her to the moon.
Speaker 2:I have a theory, I have an idea on who should get that movie. I just don't know how busy this person is going to be, and this person also. In a little bit I'm going to talk about how they were robbed of something, but God but I just feel like Greta Gerwig style would and a super girl would fit Supergirl to a absolute T.
Speaker 1:Especially if you yeah, if you cast, you know, a young, you know early 20s actress for Greta Gerwig to like sink into oh my gosh, we lack of a better word Like, yeah, you know, this leads to a deeper discussion and you know we might touch on it and our discussion that we're going to have have today.
Speaker 2:It's the whole thing for the fantastic, for that we talked about where you know we. There was a couple of weeks we thought it was going to be Adam Driver and Margot Robbie. That still is my number one choice. If I were to do it like I really I really like that. And then Paul Mescal. I think that's a good, that's a good place to start, but it was when they were testing the Panavision cameras, like they were testing films, like they were doing all those things. There was a rumor that they were doing all these things like it's the cinema in the room, so like, if you're able to get somebody like Greta Gerwig to step into something like that, that can help you a lot. And she's already worked with more. I mean, she just made one of Warner Brothers most profitable movies ever. So, yeah, obviously she's got a little say. I feel like she her with Superman, a Supergirl women of tomorrow would be like a match made in heaven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a great. That's a great idea, I think. I think, like I said, I think both casting choices have their respective upsides. I would, I would like to see either one of them, honestly, just for different reasons, like I would for MacDowell, and I think it would be cool to cast the relative unknown and kind of elevate her. And then Millie Alcock's situation, I think, is just deserved, like I think she's just she's writing for that ascent especially. You know, like I said, I think she was one of the best parts of House of the Dragon and she wasn't around nearly long enough because obviously the time jump. So I think both choices are really really good. So we got a Netflix Avatar, last Airbender trailer Wolf looks pretty good, looks pretty good. You know we're we're in this age now where these things that are being adapted, like it really feels like they're all finding proper homes and proper care and it's almost like the people that made the original thing around for the thing now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I'm looking at some Neil Gaiman books of Sandman right now. Like it, just it, just it makes so much more sense. Rick Ryald in is over with Percy. I told you before we hopped on it's like the Arnold Schwarzenegger meme from Predator, where it's just like Percy Jackson in the Olympians, the Avatar, netflix, I don't think like finally being live action adaptations that are accurate, like they actually feel like the thing now. So I'm just really appreciative that. You know these two pillars of my childhood are being bought back to life and done correctly and done with, with care, I think, is the number one thing.
Speaker 2:It's like care to the lore and care to the source material, but also, you know, appreciating that, you know production value is important and world building is important. All those things are are important, but staying true to your characters is probably the single and true to the story. Those are the two Look at you, at night Chameleon. Hey, don't call him out.
Speaker 1:You made signs. He didn't make signs Good for him. He made old, proud, old, the beach where everyone gets old. Um, yeah, no, I was really impressed with this trailer. I've been impressed with everything that they put out for the show and, like you said, it looks incredibly faithful. Um, the bending looks, looks really good, insane.
Speaker 1:It looks like one of the things where you have to nail the effects, and I'm excited, I'm excited to see how this turns out. I think it can, I can really it's. It's gonna be one of those. I think it's gonna be one of those shows that a brings in all the people that me, you know, I've, yeah, that grew up with it with the cartoon, and it's gonna, I think, bring in just new people. That maybe I mean, I don't know how you haven't heard of it, but, um, yeah, I think it's gonna be really cool and I'm really excited for it. Um, that being said, before we hit our hit our topic uh, the Oscars, the whole, the whole impetus for this, this theme and this topic that we're going is the Oscar nominations and uh, yeah, go, go off.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's a good time to shine. Yeah, all right. So Oscars 2024. So I mean, it was funny, though the aura around the day and you know this is the penance of social media the aura around the day of being chosen, and you know we've done two Oscar episodes, we're going to do a third Oscars episode this, this year. Um, it's, it's definitely, it's evolved and it's made things be. You know, the nominations of celebration are gone versus the. You know the lack of things in there.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what happens. The Oscars has become too mainstream and thanks, will Smith.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm going to talk about the good, for a while. I'm going to talk about the good things. Good, you know. Let's just give me a category. I'll talk about something I like from it.
Speaker 2:That's how we'll do it. We'll run through the categories and I'll tell you something that I much appreciate Do the acting ones the acting ones, sure, and I mean acting in a leading role I mean this is obviously Killian Murphy's to lose? I said that as soon as Oppenheimer came out, and the only at that time I thought the only contest he was going to get and this is before I knew Holdovers was coming out was I knew that Bradley Cooper was going to give him an issue. And I mean before you know, what happened to Jonathan Majors happened to a magazine dreams was supposed to come out last year. I thought that those two were going to be the only thing that could have affected any run that Killian Murphy has had. But just off the Emmys and the Golden Globes, I don't think he's going to. I don't think he's going to have any issues. It's waiting Like it's. This might be one of the easier award choices that there's ever been.
Speaker 2:However, in this category I have probably one of my favorite performances of the year for Paul G Molly GMOO in the Holdovers. He was just I'm going to get around to it. He was just fully realized. He's just so good, he's just incredible in that movie. That whole movie is just a level of comfort that I didn't know that I needed until I watched it, and those are sometimes the best types of movies that you can ask for. Actor in a supporting role. Again, oppenheimer, you're going to get a theme off of this.
Speaker 1:Of course yeah.
Speaker 2:But Oppenheimer takes Robert Downey Jr and it's and it's funny, it's just you want to talk about good things. It's like he's worked his whole and it's not the career, it's the life that he had to get to this point where he's going to win an Oscar this year, like if you told him what was it Sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years ago that you're going to? Not only are you going to beat what you had, you're going to get this major role and be one of the again. Like you're going to turn back into one of the most famous people. There is a point where I think Robert Downey Jr might have been the most famous person in Hollywood and now you're going to get an Oscar and work with some of one of the best directors of all time. I think he would have probably called you crazy, but you know it's crazy until it becomes real. So shout out, robert Downey Jr. I hope nothing but the best for him. And you know, I don't think there's again.
Speaker 2:This is a category I don't think has any contests. There's some fun in this category because Ryan Gosling but it's not as fun once we talk about some other things. I love the Sterling K Brown for American fiction as well too. I think that's a that's a great, that's a great choose. And you know, robert Downey Jr Killing the Fire Moon, that was. I mean the trailer came out and everybody kind of knew that that was a. That was a shoe in right there and poor things has is going to get a lot of acting gnomes, which leads me into the actress in a leading role. Obviously, I don't think again. This might be as easy as this might be the Wow, this actually might be one of the easiest best actor, best actress, because it's going to just be killing Murphy and Emma Stone. I don't think there's anything else in there that can affect that. The Carrie Mulligan's dynamite and anything that she does she's one of my favorite actresses on ever. But you know, when Emma Stone pulled off in poor things is just nothing short of incredible. So there is somebody I'm focused on positive. I'm just going to focus on the positive. We'll get to the other stuff in a little bit. Actress in a supporting role is going to probably I'm really hoping it is going to be Divine Joy Randolph from the holdovers I mean it was that whole run that she had and for the Golden Globes was just it like it was like a feel good story almost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just was. And again it was supposed to be Emily Bluntz to kind of lose to anybody else and you know, divine Joy Randolph. She was so just emotionally vulnerable and raw but tough in holdovers. It's just that that that movie is one of my favorites from this year too and I'm so glad that it got it's getting the recognition that it deserves. I'm going to, I'm going to skip all the animated features because sometimes I'll go back through closer to the Oscars to watch all of these. All the animated feature I'll talk about because it's across the spider versus going to win. That the boy and I think you're thinking the same thing with the bar in the hair on Yep, missy Yaki-san.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't discount him.
Speaker 2:The cast that they got for that was also insane.
Speaker 1:It was oh, mental stuck in there, that get there. Yeah, the box, the elements will get in there. The box office flop and then suddenly made $800 million, remember that that was great.
Speaker 2:What happened there? I don't know, but we're never going to get to the bottom.
Speaker 1:And now it got nominated for Oscar. What's going on?
Speaker 2:What's going on over at Pixar? Yeah, across the spider verse. And you know, I guess one of my hot takes is I can make a very legitimate argument that across the spider verse should just be in the best picture category as well. Yeah, you know, kicking down the cinematography again, oppenheimer doesn't have anything to worry about. Part of that's because doing part two doesn't come out this year. Yeah, and you know, one of the. I know I want to focus on the positive, but I am.
Speaker 2:I know there was a stigma about around the creator that the creator used a consumer based camera to shoot the movie, and how incredible that. Like that. I just I don't want I don't want to use the word a crime, but I just think that the creator not being in the best cinematography is is kind of crazy to me. It's not going to make any sense. But the fact that John Williams is there for score but the creators not there for cinematography, it doesn't make sense on paper. But it's the whole thing about how I feel about Greg Frazier being the new age Roger Deakins like he needs to just him and or and so for, just need to be in there. They, they revolutionize the way we think about how to shoot movies this year. Like they had a precipice of like, this is the new, this is the new time. You don't need this big, you don't need the big. Ari Alex says you don't need to shoot. Like, go get a camera that you can go buy it best, buy right now and look what we made. Obviously, we had to break out these cameras, get these old, vintage, like all those things we needed to do. But like, you can get consumer facing stuff and make something incredible. You just need to be able to know how to shoot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's costume design. I think they're probably going to kick that one. I wouldn't be surprised if killers of the flower moon one this I can see this one I can see it being like a little bit of a toss up. Barbie can maybe get this. I don't know if it does Poor things also might get this because it's like on the on. It's like in this weird realm, which I appreciate. Yeah, now on to the one that just caused the stress over the last couple years. The directing categories just cause this grief and stress.
Speaker 1:This is the one I don't understand. Yeah, I've done this for three years now and I still don't understand how we. What's going on with this directing category? I just I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't see a world In which this is. This is the argument I had for for Barbie's case. Barbie on paper is one of the most impossible movies to make remotely good because, again, it's the audience that you're picking from. So, like this could have been a kids movie. It could have been like a parody yeah, but this movie was like a movie. It was an actual film yeah, it was an actual picture. So like what Greta Gerwig was able to pull off. How does that not get you a best directing knob? Like I feel like you know, anatomy of a Fall was on a lot of people's top list this year. Zone of interest is a very, very perplexing is the word I'm looking for on that. On that film, I do like the poor things nomination I do. I mean it's Martin Scorsese and Chris Rinaldo and obviously you're going to get I mean, I have a question about this directing thing.
Speaker 1:So if you're going to expand the best picture category to a bajillion movies now, why can't you just expand the directing category?
Speaker 2:There's two that I think you should expand, and those two should be the cinematography and the directing should get expanded, and we're entering this era kind of where, like directors are kind of entering the mainstream Yep. We're like yeah, the director is the one that's driving the thing that you're going to watch. It's not sometimes. Yeah, because in the past it used to just be pretty much four names. That would be like Scorsese Spielberg it's like the 80s or 90s and Scorsese Spielberg, tarantino, lucas, yeah.
Speaker 1:But now we've entered this, maybe.
Speaker 2:James Cameron.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but now we've entered this realm where, like, the directors are kind of gaining more notoriety and I just feel like Matt Reeves Batman, Greg Erwin, Spartan, Like that's kind of what it is now.
Speaker 1:And, like I said, if you're going to expand the best picture category, you don't have to expand the directing category by that much, you don't have to do 10. Maybe you do eight, maybe you do eight, maybe you do seven, maybe you seven or eight. But like I can never square this circle that Barbie is up there as the best picture and the director is not there for best director, when you know that movie is.
Speaker 2:It's a tough. It's a tough battleground to take because you know, in my opinion, and you're talking about directing what it's your now you're questioning with the very ideal of and now I'm going to go off, because now it's like what's the very ideal of what directing is, because the one that's missing for me personally is past lives, is Celine song, because you create this, this kind of you create this realm of this not love story is the best way to explain that but you do it in such this, you know, driven and passionate and Just overall, just what's the word I'm looking for, just this kind of Magnificent way like to go about a story like this and you don't also don't get a best. You know, and this is the movie that when I wrote in April, this movie came out and that was anybody can talk about, is Because this comes out right in April. This came out. Was April April or came after? No, it came. I think it came out before Oppenheimer came out, and I remember, and I came out June.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it came out still before right.
Speaker 2:So I remember it was a summer. I want to go see this movie. I was just like oof I know that Oppenheimer supposed to be the movie of this year, but past lives is is definitely gonna do every saying that yeah, and this movie is just, it's everything. This movie is Phenomenal and I just don't know how Celine song doesn't get in there, like I just Again. Same thing for a credit girl. It's my big one on this, but I just I just see a world where zone of interest gets left off and that spot was supposed to be taken by either Celine song or Greta Gerwig.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I digress on my directing point. I think it's apparent that that category needs to be expanded along with the cinematography. My cinematography point is movies look great and I think the more technology we've gotten, the better movies can look. Intrinsically it's it's a visual art style. Even cinema, like graffiti, is still like a science-based thing, but it's still in the art of the science essentially. Yeah, it's like you're painting, so you know you're painting with light, you're painting, you know, with the camera.
Speaker 2:So that category I don't think can be pigeonholed to five movies, because I agree that it's just something that's so broad that how could you only fit Five films for me like John Wick easily could have gotten in there. In my opinion, john Wick is a gorgeous looking movie that my big one's the creator. I just I don't understand how the creator gets left off of that list as well too. I mean this one's a shot in the dark, but Guardians 3 also looks really good. Like Guardians 3 look good. Obviously, you know I'm fine that Guardians 3 is not here, but my point is that category should be bigger. It shouldn't. If the if the picture is is 10 than the director, the cinematography should also be 10, in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. We'll get to film.
Speaker 2:Film editing, I mean Something like I mean again, oppenheimer's gonna win this. Film editing, I mean you're talking, you're telling a borderline, nonlinear story to some capacity from a subjective and objective angle, like I did. I think that's just, it's a no-brainer at that point. Makeup and hairstyling is it's. I'm gonna probably say it's gonna be, it's gonna be poor things, maybe my, maybe my strobe, but I think my show has a lot of things going against it, which I think my show is gonna get completely shut out. Original score again. I just it's no content. Like Ludwig Gorenstein, just Christopher Nolan walked in the room, said we need a civil score and little Gordon said can I give you one of the best of the 2020s that you're ever gonna get? Um original song. This one actually is more controversial than I thought it was gonna be Because there's a song from a, from a Mario movie that's kind of missing from here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Maybe a hot guy in there? Yeah, I think there's somehow.
Speaker 2:What's good is because I think Billy Eilish's song should be the one that gets pitched. But I have a feeling they're just gonna give it to Ryan Costley because he's him. They might, they might. He's just Ken, we're all just Ken. Uh, production design I. I could see a world where poor things winch. Production design I can. I could see a world where that happens. It's just the aura of Oppenheimer, yeah this is one of those years.
Speaker 1:We have these years, sometimes with the Oscars, where it's just, it's just a runaway freight train, mm-hmm, and they're just gonna just rack them up. Yeah, rack them up. That's what.
Speaker 2:That's what this feels like and obviously I didn't say for director who's gonna. I mean, we had all that discussion for Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's not, it's. That was more of a argument of who should be in the discussion even to make this a bigger discussion too.
Speaker 2:It's not about, you know, sometimes it's not about the winners, and we, and me and you always say it's about the art itself. That's that's what the Oscars should be about, should be a celebration of this art, but it's too mainstream now.
Speaker 1:So, mainstream.
Speaker 2:My whole point, though, is you know what it's about. It's about when the studios go to look at this person, and you made a good point about it being like a director's thing. Guess what they're gonna look at. Has this person been nominated for something at this point? They're literally gonna look at you and be like to resume.
Speaker 1:It's a resume builder at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:Literally, when they go in the trailers to time Oscar nominee Timothy shallow, you know that's what they're gonna pick from, that's what they want. They want those things to sell tickets. That's all they need. Yep Production design we talked about. Sound mixing is easily gonna be Oppenheimer, visual effects is gonna, and this is where it gets interesting, because now the creators and visual effects, but Again the idea of what a cinematographer does is essentially, you're a painter. In my opinion, that's how I look at it You're a painter.
Speaker 2:I don't agree with that, yeah you know, for lack of a better term, I guess your location is your canvas and your camera and your lighting is your, your brush and your paint. Yeah, so the creator being in visual effects. Yes, because this movie and we talked about it for the obviously this movie has a bigger budget, but that movie looks seamless, it looks absolutely Seekless from it. From it, I don't think there's anything that even the only thing that maybe comes close is Godzilla minus one and Guardians 3 come close to this. Yeah, but it's, it's gonna be the creator, that's, that's a no contest as well.
Speaker 2:Two of our favorite categories as people that like to write yep, the best adapted screenplay. I'm gonna have a hot take. I think American fiction is gonna win the best adapted. Oh, I think they're gonna give court Jefferson a little bit of love, which I think is awesome. I Could see, I can also see a world where the Academy is like, well, we're gonna say sorry to Greta Gerwig and give it to Barbie. But in terms of deserving of a best adapted screenplay, I think American fiction is gonna take this one.
Speaker 2:And my personal favorite, the best original screenplay. Because there's nothing, there's nothing better as somebody that writes, that sits in front of a blank canvas and just is able to craft something that turns into a major motion picture. I think it's the craziest thing, yeah, mmm. So I have who I want to win, and then I have who I think's gonna win, and then I have my dark horse of who I want to win.
Speaker 2:Okay, I, I see, I see a world when anatomy of a fall takes this category and that's the one that I think could win. Uh-huh, I see a possible future of my liking that the holdovers wins this and I, I do have a sneaking suspicion that it could. I think it could too, and I think the whole. Again, you made a good point last year about everything like runs, like you have to have certain runs in this and this is the mainstream portion like what is in people's minds when the runs happen. So Obviously, the holdovers over the last month and a half has had an incredible like Paul G money went to it in an hour and like as funny as that sounds, that's the point like he's now it's a social media age where he's going. Now people are talking. It's the runs that they like to see.
Speaker 1:I bet you people went inside the movie because just because of that.
Speaker 2:Honestly, and it's like, oh, you mean the guy from Big Fat Liar from when I was a kid. Of course I'm gonna see this movie and now I'm like emotionally like attached to him now, yeah, and like so I see that. And I also see one more Celine song wins for past lives. It, if holdovers are past lives, wins. I'm cool, I'm fine, I'd really appreciate that. And obviously we saved the best for last, best international short, yeah.
Speaker 2:I shout out to all the categories we haven't talked about, though, because we haven't seen any of those yet. But yeah, those people work infinitely hard on their craft, and something that obviously the both of us to different capacities also want to do. So, yeah, it's just shout out to them, for you know, turning there, did you see the thing where? I forget which one it was, I think it was. Was it Bobby wine? It was either that or it was something. Where did you see? It was yesterday.
Speaker 2:They found that the nominations happened and they were in the lake, the broom, and they were all freaking out like that. Yeah, that's all about. Oh, yeah, that's what it's all about. You guys. You know what you guys are here for. You're here for the best picture talk. I mean, that's a, that's a layup. I mean it's, it's a layup, so it's a conversation I don't think needs to be had about any of these. This year is probably one of the easy. This is also probably one of the more forgiving, because there's been years where the were the nominations come out for best picture and you're like yeah but we just not see some movies.
Speaker 2:I the I mean, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna ask you a question because we saw we saw a good amount of movies this year afterwards. Obviously, oppenheimer's gonna win. There's just the truth, fact of the matter. I would be a million percent Okay if past lives would win, but it's not. I'd be. You know. Obviously, if killers of the flower moon wins, that'd be cool because you know it's scores. It's one of the all-time greats. Being an all-time great, same thing as fatal men's from last year it's like you're there, be. You're not there because you're an all-time great. You're there because you made an incredible film, but you are one of the all-time greats. Yep, holdovers wins that's. That'd be like a feel-good win, but it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2:American fictions had a good run over the last couple weeks. Actually, like the, specifically like the last week and a half Holdout. American fictions been getting a lot of play. I don't think zone of interest a man of the of a fall Barbie have any remote shot. No, poor things is probably a little higher on the list, but I just nothing is gonna touch Oppenheimer now. Could you swap Maestro out for iron claw and everything would be okay.
Speaker 1:I mean everything. Everything wouldn't be okay.
Speaker 2:Right, it's a lot of things that need to get Settled in other categories, but yeah, yeah, you probably could that's question a question be Could you swap out a net-bending for Margot Robbie and everything would be okay? Not to say that a net-bending wasn't incredible and I had, but could you swap them out and everything would be fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because I mean the Margot Robbie thing just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:If Ryan, if America for air and Ryan Gosling are there and Margot Robbie's not there, that does not make any remote sense.
Speaker 1:She's the engine. She's the engine of that makes that whole movie go. This is you got. We'll say the point that you may oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean the thing, the thing that I always think about and it's a really easy thing to think about when you're talking about like best actor, actor, actress in the thing is if you swap that person now and in Replace them with any, with anyone else not anyone else, but, like you know, I've run a replaceable Amy Schumer. Amy Schumer, supposed to be in this Barbie movie. If you replace Margot Robbie and Barbie with Amy Schumer, the movie plays different. The movie plays different.
Speaker 2:I go with direct this movie.
Speaker 1:No, but even if she did, it's still probably not as good. It's not the same. She is amazing. She is Barbie and beyond that, she does like yeah, she's just, she does some acting. She does the acting in this movie. So I, I just I don't understand it, I don't get it. So, yeah, she probably should have been there. Yeah, ironcloth probably could have gotten the best picture knob, but the end of the day, we're clearing out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, here's my second one, and this isn't I'm not on the crowd that just hates the might, hates maestro Cuz. That that was like a cool thing to do. Yeah, it was just a hate, my sure. With all your heart. Yeah, could you replace Bradley Cooper with Zach Efron and everything would be okay? I think so, I. I think Domingo Cole or Coleman Domingo also was incredible and Rustin, so that's a.
Speaker 2:That's a tougher one because, like, the three that need to stay here in my opinion, are Paul Giamatti, killian Murphy and Jeffrey right, those three cannot move for anything. They're those are probably the three most like locked in, that you can be sure I'll even teeter one down. It's Paul Giamatti and Killian Murphy are the two that need to be there. There's no sure, no scenario where they're both not there. I can see a world where Zach Efron gets in here and stays in here and maybe contends for something. You know how's that? If Zach Efron and it was in here, who we would play? As it would play as it would play as Adru Garfield when he played Jonathan Larson, the same type of feel like.
Speaker 2:That's the one that like every and it play a lot like Paul Mascall from last year for Aftersun. It's the one that's there that you know has no chance. But everybody loves this guy and if you, if some magic greats of God, you were to win, you'd be like, yeah, this is the.
Speaker 1:I feel kind of like a payoff for like hey, zach Efron, we see you've been doing doing some acting, yep, yeah, so I would agree with all of those things that you said and that's the Oscars. Yeah, can't wait to talk about when the actual show comes out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's gonna. I think this one's gonna be a fun one. I think there's gonna be some fun performances, like I know they're probably gonna get. You know what I? One performance I would make sure I would get in there. I would definitely get Metro boom into do what he did. You see his live show he did. I would have him just do the do the am I dreaming portion. Just have him do it at the Oscars also. Best original score. Yeah, not the music, the actual score from across the side of us, I think could have probably been. And the who who's got the best original score. So we have American fiction, indiana Jones, killers of the flower, mood, oppenheimer poor things, I would be okay if American fiction's not there. And replacement of of Across the spider-verse sure, oh man, we'll talk about. I can't wait for the Oscars episode. Can't wait like my.
Speaker 1:Super Bowl. It is like the Super Bowl kind of Time time for our thing. We have a thing and here it is. So this was an idea that I cooked up while we were on hiatus and I was like, hey, wouldn't be a cool thing to do for our return to like kind of Celebrate the movies, to do this thing that I'm about to talk about. And then we sat on it for a little while and then the Oscar nominations came out. So we were like we haven't done a topic, or not. A topic like a theme, like a fun thing in in a while.
Speaker 1:We love movies, we love movies, we love other things, pictures, we love things. So we decided we're gonna do basically it's essentially a draft, right, but it's not a draft in like a conventional sense. We're like we're gonna, we are gonna go back and forth, but the conceit is, if you will, I'm a scenario guy, I love scenarios, so scenario, love the tribe called quest, yeah, yeah, featuring Buster on. So basically the concede is we're opening cinemas, theaters, right. Mean you not competing cinemas? I can they be competing? No, no, no, the town's not big enough.
Speaker 2:Well exactly, the town's not big enough for both these cinemas, so no, no, I'm building one on the other side of the country. Yeah, cuz you don't want to check me for my son.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I don't, I don't put you out of business, and we just want to, we want to put button seats, we want to basically draft, quote, quote, quote or buy, I guess, the rights to To movies, certain movies, certain genres that we're just gonna throw in our cinemas to get people to go see them and then we're gonna take, you know, directors that we want kind of like the rights to their things, give us your things to show in our, in our movies. And we got a bunch of different topics, or not topics, but kind of Categories, categories that we're gonna cover in any order that we want. So we can, we can snipe certain categories and we feel really strongly about one. So we have producer, director, writer, cinematographer, composer, franchise now the franchise thing. The rule is you can't just draft like the MCU, or right, or like the DCU as, like its own thing, the darkness universe there's, there's so many things that the other versus conga verse.
Speaker 1:That would be a fun, a fun one. You can do that one, that's fine. Okay, but back to us breaking the rules that we said God still is an interesting one, right Cuz like you can't just do Godzilla, no, you got to do gareth edwards one.
Speaker 2:But gareth edwards one, technically is the one that we're getting in.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we can't just, you can't just do Marvel, because that's, that's too many things, too many things off the board that can go elsewhere.
Speaker 2:It needs to be a character of something a character or, or a group, or like an idea like you want to do, there was an idea, it was an idea like you want to do the X-Men, you can do the X-Men, but you can't do like Marvel.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, I own the Marvel things. You're not Kevin Feige, bro, hold that. So we got franchise we had. And then we go basically into our genres so horror, comedy, action, animated Biopic, suspense or thriller, sports movie. I know we're both excited to talk about sports movies young adult, fantasy, sci-fi, romance, slash, rom-com. I put those together and then game or book adaptation. So for that one I basically said you can take one that already exists or you can fantasy book a little bit and Pick one that you would want to see. But if you come with one you want to see, you got to come. You got to give me Give me.
Speaker 1:Thing come prepared and then I just put because I know like cinema to do this sometimes a TV series or like special attraction episode Of TV series that you would show, because I know they do that sometimes, and like cinemas, they'll show, like here's the Season finale of Breaking Bad, or whatever that we're putting in the movie theater, so so one of those, yeah, so I'll give you the first pick.
Speaker 2:I mean to be honest, let's just shoot down the list and full, full Transparency. I took this very different. You did so from my understanding. The whole purpose was I was supposed to make these things so from like, so it was gonna be split. So once we got to the, to the genres it was supposed to be, I was gonna make something with the tenured directors, cinematographers, composers that I had, but now I had to he'll turn everything. I wasn't ready for that.
Speaker 2:I wasn't ready for that, but I might. A little of that might be dipped into here and the episode would be a 11 hours long.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if we try to do all this, it was.
Speaker 2:It's actually the pitch pitch reading I'm gonna have with Warner Brothers in a couple weeks. Ah cool, I go ahead. You're the first pick. I mean, let's just start with producer. You can start with producer, and the producers would be Tom Cruise and Christopher McQuarrie. Oh nice, I Mean, at the end of the day, these, these Good choice, and it's good because it's an outside looking in, it's an actor producer as well. I think that's important to get the voice of them as well. It's to that care about quality over anything. They love the movies and but, as funny as that statement is, truthfully they love the movies, they love the idea of the cinema. What's better than a good bucket of popcorn? Was that him like reconciling his breakup with Nicole Kidman? What?
Speaker 1:was that that's beside the point.
Speaker 2:But yeah, tom Cruise and Christopher McQuarrie as a duo I think would be the perfect, the perfect dynamic duo to kind of run the producer side of what I mean. They feel like they're money and meetings, like people are too intimidated by, like Christopher Quarrie's, like sitting in the back and like Tom Cruise is just up.
Speaker 1:Also, by getting Tom Cruise, you get access to, like those Weird little intros that he does. Oh my god, we'll see you at the movies. He'd be like hi and Tom Cruise, welcome, welcome to the movies. Yeah, welcome to the movies.
Speaker 2:I know where I am.
Speaker 1:Remember when he got Christopher Quarrie on the mission of possible? Yeah, Christopher Quarrie's like I got stuff to write Chris. I don't think he said anything.
Speaker 2:Now he might have like said hi, I'm Christopher Quarrie.
Speaker 1:and Tom Cruise was like thanks for seeing my movie. I love that he just does that now in all his movies. Um, I'm gonna. I'm gonna start with a with a genre. I'm going sci-fi and I'm taking avatar, because it because it makes a trillion dollars.
Speaker 2:I mean, it makes sense does it make sense?
Speaker 1:who knows? Who knows, in our opinion, yes, yeah, we think they're both good right. But yeah, I'm. I'm checking avatar off the board, okay.
Speaker 2:I'm taking it for my sci-fi. Did you, you also wait? So are you also saying a producer like are we doing it like that?
Speaker 1:I will, but you know, when you get there, what I, what I'm bouncing around man, so now I have to check off what I've done.
Speaker 2:Okay, that makes sense, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like a draft.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay now. Now is it starting to make more sense.
Speaker 1:See, he's getting it. He's getting it. Guys, I'm good, I'm here. So now it's your pick again, but you can pick any of the categories. Okay so to knock off.
Speaker 2:I'm just give me let's just do the the actor, and I'm gonna give you a big three, oh no.
Speaker 1:Oh no for the actors. I shouldn't have done this.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna take Zendaya? Oh, I'm gonna take Ryan Gosling that's also a good one and I'm gonna take because we had a conversation about this today that I think he has one more all time like performance left. I'm gonna take Denzel Washington. I just think he's got. He's got, I got. See, I covered all the bases I covered. I covered somebody that's young enough to connect with the younger audience. I covered everybody's sigma male arc type and I covered one of the greatest actors of all time man.
Speaker 1:That's good Shoot. I feel like I have to do actors now. Um, yeah, I'm gonna. All right, fine, I'll do actors now. Then I'm gonna do, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna steal from your, from your, from your out. No, no, archetype, your archetype a little bit. So I'm gonna go. Timothy Chalamet, that's what I mean, that's a phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Wait, I know you're gonna pick to go against Denzel, which is, yes, you do.
Speaker 1:I read my mind oh no, um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna kind of Dump that dovetail, but I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2:Margot Robbie, that's genius, it's genius, and then okay, all right, three, two, one Tom Hanks.
Speaker 1:I had to. As soon as you said, denzel, I knew I had to my rival, my rival. Cinema has to have to do Tom.
Speaker 2:Hanks talk to. Got this on here that we think that Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks and Denzel are like the antithesis to each other. They're all started with Philadelphia. Ever since then like oh. Man might have to run that episode.
Speaker 1:We're gonna run the episode of edgley.
Speaker 2:There's an episode idea that we're gonna swap them in the movies to determine who's the better all-time actor, tom Hanks or Denzel Washington. But it's gonna get much funnier because it's gonna be like like Denzel is gonna be in, like the man from no, denzel is gonna be in, and like road to perdition. Yeah, then like Tom, then dens wait, then Tom Hanks is gonna be in. Like training day, tom Hanks and training day.
Speaker 2:And nothing all right, I'm just gonna go Give me the, give me the bio pic, and I'm gonna, and I'm gonna do a, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you, I Mean, I'm gonna make a, but I'm gonna give you a bio pic which, within the next month, is gonna have a billion dollars, and that's Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1:That's a great and my in my in my, my backup choice, it was Malcolm X.
Speaker 2:That's a good one too man Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1:is that's? I mean, that's the one right that's? Is that like the? Is that in like, in the running for like greatest bio, picks up a big elder man? All right, hmm, I'm gonna do biopic now. No, I'm doing sports movie. I'm doing remember, the Titans.
Speaker 2:That's fix you could have if I was.
Speaker 1:if I was, if I was going to the cinema and they're like, we're sure remember the Titans, I'm going to see it, so I'm going, I'm going to remember the Titans for sports movie.
Speaker 2:I need a heavy hitter. So I'm gonna go to the horror and remember how I told you I was gonna nuke you with whatever you're gonna have. Yeah, we're gonna do a Jordan Peele triple feature.
Speaker 1:Oh no, that's a great one. I like that a lot.
Speaker 2:It's just you want to talk about one of the only whore, possibly the only horror director working right now. That just gets the mainstream butts and seats like he's one of the only Ones by name right now from the hordes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I expect that goes back to the like the thing I mentioned, like Greta Gerwig, like he's like synonymous with his movies, right, yeah, it's good, that's a really good one. Triple feature, triple feature to is crazy. What a crazy move. What a good move, though. Let's see. What do I want to do here? I'm gonna go oh man, this is tough. I think I want to go to fantasy and I want to do Lord of the Rings, two towers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just it's like putting infinity war, like that just.
Speaker 1:I mean, we saw, we saw return of the king in theaters and I was like this is still doesn't make it, it's still good. But also two towers. I just I love that movie. I I like it better than return of the king. I, I just I love two towers and it's incredible. So yeah, I would, I would show that every day. I'd block it off. Directors cut to like the four-hour version.
Speaker 2:All right, well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go back to the people and my whole point about you need to make sure you get a good you know team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm gonna go to the cinematographer portion. I'm gonna make this very simple and I'm gonna make the one guy that just is impossible not to get on your thing at this point. Yeah, that's Greg Frazier. I feel like that's just a easy thing. I picked three for this one. To make it simple, I picked him and orange sofa, because orange sofa is I mean, orange sofa is incredible. And I picked why am I forgetting his, his name now, that, why am I forgetting his name?
Speaker 2:That shot West Side Story and shoots a whole bunch of Steven Spielberg's things, linus. And he shot La La Land. As soon as I found his name, because I forgot it was. It was a late addition that I just had 35 seconds ago, because and I forgot how much, how incredible he is. But when I remember Linus Sandgren's name, he's somebody that would also be there. I mean his, his credit speak for themselves. So this man knows how to shoot film. So so, yeah, orange sofa, greg. Greg, greg Frazier is like the leader in this. He is the leader, like that's the whole thing like he's the modern it.
Speaker 2:He is gonna turn into what Roger Deakins was for, like all this time. Sure, when Right when Greg Frazier gets to Roger Deakins days, he's gonna be the same thing. It's gonna be like he's this. He is the cinematographer in Hollywood, but is he showing?
Speaker 1:Wonka, no, I am Timothy shallow a baby would you do that for for what like?
Speaker 2:what's Wonka for?
Speaker 1:I mean cuz I get Timothy shallow, I, so I get, I get his, I get him. Oh, you just get Wonka.
Speaker 2:And you get interstellar. Maybe this was a. Maybe this was a.
Speaker 1:Oh, um, I was gonna. Oh, you know what I want to do? I want to do director.
Speaker 2:That's what I want to do. I had five for mine because it's like I took the other piece of what I thought this was. That's insane.
Speaker 1:I had a team that's too many directors.
Speaker 2:It was the thing like it was a team of people you need to have together to make things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't take that many directors. I'm doing three, or I'm not gonna have any movies. I'm doing three. I, I also had three. Um, I had a whole number of ours. I don't think so I have Ryan Coogler. That's a good pick, cuz I think we talked about this when we talked about I think we talked about Black Panther and I was like everything this guy's done so far has been really good and he's only like in his 30s. I would love to have everything he's done and everything he will do, including the vampire movie that he's gonna be with Michael B Jordan. So, give me, give me, give me a Ryan Coogler, give me the Russo brothers. That's a good choice.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that choice. I appreciate it. I feel like they don't get Kind of enough credit, will they get more hate than anything, because they now they're associated with this thing that people don't like, or maybe now they're. Now they're gonna get more love because they made the thing that everybody loves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it feels like they should actually get a little bit more credit for like oh no, they actually like directed the hell out of all these movies and also like.
Speaker 2:Again, you want to talk about impossible tasks. To do that might single-handedly be the single most impossible task that they were able to do, and they did it, yeah.
Speaker 1:so I really, really don't have any Reservation other who shows the Collins or the Safdie's.
Speaker 2:You got to pick one.
Speaker 1:Probably.
Speaker 2:I mean I drafted the Russo's, but I'm a pretentious film, bro, so I have to take the Collins. I mean I love the color or is the more pretentious film? Both do. The thing to do is take the Safdie's but they're not the safeties anymore, oh no they're not the Coens anymore either. Oh, no One thing about the Russo, bro. No, they're not the Russo's anymore, because what's his name? Just did um, did gray man by himself.
Speaker 1:Bro, I'm bringing them back, I'm bringing them back together. And then the third one, I'm gonna do a fun one. I'm gonna say Tim Burton, give me the, give me the wacky, the wacky, horrific stuff.
Speaker 2:Does that play in 2024? Yeah, I think for some people it does.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll give me, I'll take the freaks away, those. I'll take the freaks and eat give them. So yeah, that's my three directors. If I had to find I had to pick three. Said you want butts and seats, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just gonna double down on my director now, since we're here, give me Denis Villeneuve, because Him and Christopher Nolan are the two absolute examples of the line between cinema and blockbuster and what they mean as a whole. Yep, I'm gonna take Greta Gerwig as well. Your Brian Cougar pick is the same thought process as my Greta Gerwig pick so we both, so we get shared custody of Barbie.
Speaker 1:Did it a Barbie then? No, yeah, hi, I'm a Robbie. I guess.
Speaker 2:I guess I'm really bad. You get, you get more of the residuals, though I probably don't get more money off this More merch.
Speaker 1:I probably get more merch though.
Speaker 2:Oh, but it's Barbie yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:But she is bar.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's tough one. You get the residuals off the tickets.
Speaker 2:I know I get the residuals off the popcorn buckets which might make you more in the law, because Amazon wholesalers it's a whole thing. I'm really battling for my third of who I want because I have a pick. That's a that feels like more of like a Direct smart insert that I can put into these movies to do, but the other else like a shared custody of Dune.
Speaker 2:And we do. We do shout out to me I'm, I'm, I'm gonna go with Damien Chazelle because he made a. He made a musical, one of the greatest movies of possibly all time. I was gonna pick Joe Kaczynski because I think he's a great person to put to something. Yeah, with a, if as long as he's got a team with him, you can put Joe Kaczynski to something and it's probably gonna play, but I just think Damien Chazelle is. I don't think people realize how versatile Damien Chazelle is either, because he how do you go from La La Land to first man and just not miss a step? Those movies are very different from each other, but they both are just absolutely incredible. And I think it's the fact that it's and this is also the Ryan Kuhler point that Damien Chazelle just turned 39 three days ago, like that's absurd that is crazy.
Speaker 2:You have, you know you have two of you know, two of the highly talented, most talented. You have one of these single most highly talented movies of all time under your belt and you're not even 40 like that. Yeah, that's just insane. So I'm gonna have to put Joe Kaczynski in the back burner of once. I have I do contract renewals and Denise says I'm going, I'm done.
Speaker 1:He's. He's hiding with my theater afterwards.
Speaker 2:No no, engineer boys, you wouldn't do that. To me he seems like somebody like I'd get coffee with and we talk about like movies from the 70s. We talk about like French New Wave or something.
Speaker 1:Where do I want to go here? I'm, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna plant my flag in my franchise. I'm taking spider-man. That's, it's. It's an, it's an incredible pick. It'll never, it'll never wear out. I don't care. It's tried and true. It's the most, one of the most popular superheroes of all time. It's infinitely rebootable. If we ever get it, we ever get to that point where we have to do another spider-man movie, I'm ready. Give me, give it, um, so I'm, yeah, I'm gonna. I would have to do spider-man as my my cornerstone franchise. Hey, new spider-man movie, come, come see it. Old spider-man movie, I could just decide, like one day, like.
Speaker 2:No, I like it, I like it quite a bit. Yeah, for my, my fantasy, I'm gonna just take Dune Fantasy. It's fantasy, not sci-fi. There's like blue splish spice that they inhale. That's fantasy. Visions of the future that's fantasy.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, why is one of the rings, not, not science fiction.
Speaker 2:There's. There's science and Lord of the Rings. What science? Science is magic, magic is science. We don't understand, yet shout out Thor it is science fiction See dunes, fantasy and Lord of the Rings and science fiction and it's discussion. I just think Dune is all right. Team on Dune is just, you know, nothing short of incredible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fair. I yeah, all right, that's fine. Um, where do I want to go here? I'm gonna say comedy and I'm gonna go. I had to, but I'm not sure if one still works now.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know exactly You're gonna say for the one that doesn't work, no, no, no you don't, there you go. Um.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say so, the one I think works now and it's still funny to this day, and well, people will still enjoy it. Towel-dagonites, that's that's. That's good, that's not bad at all. I think that movie just works. I think it's will ferrell, john c Riley and their comedic primes Um, I think that movie is just. I think it moves. That works so.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm gonna save my comedy because I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to remix, I think. What? Why my comedy? I, my comedy is not a specific movie. It's a type of movie and I think in the year we live in it's gonna play, but I'm gonna save it. Okay, it's like an, it's like a, it's like an arc type of what modern comedy is. Okay, um, I'll get there. Um, for my, for my romance, it's the before trilogy. I'd show that. You get all the people, you get all the film people in there. You get all the picture peeps in there. I get everybody in there. Richard, blink, lighter. I mean, I've talked about those movies on here. It's just, I don't care what anybody says. Um, I was also warring with if I should do when harry met sally too. That was also my other one, but I just think the before trilogy is. It's what was vitz mcban talking about? He was special, he was special.
Speaker 1:Um, that's a good prick pick.
Speaker 2:Why would you do? Why would you call Ethan hawk that everybody loves Ethan?
Speaker 1:hawk. Um, I'm gonna jump back up to producer and I'm gonna. This might be a controversial pick because Is he a product? Is he a product of the system or is he or is he the system? And I'm picking Kevin Feige. It's not bad, um, I mean, it's a. It's a risky pick because, like, what is he? What is he gonna do after marvel? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Um nothing, maybe he, just maybe he pulls the Thanos at the end and just sits down. I hope not. He puts like his hat on his knee and he's just like I did it?
Speaker 1:I hope not, because I'm building my cinema around him, so Make more things, kevin.
Speaker 2:This is why this thing is confusing, because are you building the cinema around him or the things he's already done?
Speaker 1:Well, if that's the case, then I, then I stole all the marvel, but I'm I'm more of like for, like producers, directors. It's more like the things that they're going to do in the future, you know, and they're kind of like the person that, like you know, you know they do a lot of things. You know, what does a producer do?
Speaker 2:really, at the end I almost picked a rock for this by the way, as funny as that sounds, like that, that wouldn't be a horror that the rock got us to see black adam.
Speaker 1:Did he bought that? He bought time square to do, to do black adam. Um, yeah, I'm picking Kevin Feige for that because I don't know, like I said, is he a product of the system or is he the system?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna gravitate, I'm gonna pivot to action and I'm gonna take the mission impossible franchise. This guy loves Tom Cruise. I do love Tom. I'm a Tom Cruise truth here. Um, to the point where I almost took I was, so I was. There was a world where I was gonna take heat, but I think he, I think mission impossible is the fact that it's a franchise. Yep, that's a great yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's perfect, so, uh, mission impossible. Those movies only get better and better and they evolve, and they evolve with the times. Um, so I think that's the perfect place to be.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna follow your lead on action. I'm gonna do John Wick.
Speaker 2:Sure, Sure, and you know I've already talked about how John Wick changed Hollywood a bit and the way that Hollywood Thanks though Hollywood went from like a western way to think about action to an eastern way to think about action, and for the better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think I'm gonna do John.
Speaker 2:Wick. Um, my animated is gonna be spider-verse. Anything that comes out of that spider-verse, the realm is just any. Any dollar amount I can ask for will be in the box office. So yeah, that might be one of the most automatic picks on this whole to the whole thing.
Speaker 1:That's a good one, that's a really good one. Um, I'm actually gonna jump down to my my tv series and I'm I'm doing game at the runs. Yeah, no, I mean All the sense in the world, I mean that's, it's literally, that's literally attraction television, yep. And then I'll be like, hey, we, they redid season eight, just kidding season eight again. But I'll trick you, get you the cinema. Yeah, some, I'm. Yeah, imagine, man, I'm showing battle of the bastards on on the big screen.
Speaker 2:Whoo not bad, whoo, not bad. Um, I'm going to go to my sports movie and shut up Brad Pitt, because I'm gonna take money ball this guy with the, the, whatever this is. Because sometimes you just want to, you know, you just want to try out, you just want a story about triumph and while remember the tight ends is the epitome of that and most sports, more movies are your whole favorite, I'll go about the.
Speaker 2:You know that might be one of the most you know Innovative underdog. Obviously it's a real story, but it's a you know it's one of the most innovative ways to go about the underdog story. It's like can this guy maybe walk? Get him on the roster? Does that guy have I 2020 vision? He's pitching tomorrow against the Yankees like that's all that money ball is, but it's just the aura around money ball I really appreciate. Air is definitely something in the modern age. I think that can be there. Also, a movie that I quite liked out of that sports category that could have been picked was Um was hustle with adam sandler. Yeah, sure, um and I had to. I was gonna pick coach carter because that's a staple of my childhood, but coach Carter's does drumline count.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't know why not. Why wouldn't it? I don't know um, you did young adult, right? Nope, oh, I was gonna do young adult now and I'm gonna do 10 things I had about you.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's actually such an outside of the box pic, that's crazy, I got Heath Ledger. That's really good, I got.
Speaker 1:Heath Ledger right in his right. Wow, he's coming on strong. Here he comes. They're like who is this?
Speaker 2:I'm switching because, like when you said young adult, I'm thinking YA.
Speaker 1:I mean, they're all young, it's a high school movie.
Speaker 2:I know, but like I'm just gonna follow that up right now and so I'm gonna give you the pic that I was just gonna get me butts in seats and that's the Hunger Games, because that movie had, I was thinking about that. Yeah, that franchise is just absurd. I'm actually for the pic that I actually wanna do. Based off your logic, I'm gonna do Edge of 17 with Haley.
Speaker 1:Sye, that was also. That was one of the ones I'm considering. But then I was like I just like 10 things I had about you.
Speaker 2:I'm actually gonna lock in. Edge of 17 is the movie I'm gonna show.
Speaker 1:Because I mean, you get, I got Heath Ledger. When they're like, who is this guy? He's Australian. He's amazing, what's going on? I got Prime Julius Styles yeah, you do R&B, prime Julius Styles, and it's just a really it's funny. It's based on a Shakespearean play, it's based on taking the shirt.
Speaker 2:Oh, we got a A category ad alert we're gonna do an 80s movie. Oh Shoot, we're gonna do an 80s movie, okay, I just added that in. You don't have to do it now, but I'm just.
Speaker 1:All right, I'll let that one sit.
Speaker 2:Because the 80s are iconic, so that's why they need. They can't be the 70s or the 90s, it has to be the 80s. I don't think.
Speaker 1:I can match your Jordan Peele triple feature, but I'm gonna try and I'm gonna go. Evil Dead.
Speaker 2:Evil Dead's not bad. It's not bad, it's stylized too, and it's become really popular.
Speaker 1:MFers love Evil Dead See Freaks and Weirdos. Give me all the Freaks and Weirdos. Freaks and Weirdos.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna have all the pretentious film bros and you're gonna have all the Freaks and Weirdos.
Speaker 1:I got all the. I got the Tim Burton. I got Tim Burton. I got Evil Dead. I got all the wacky Freaks and Weirdos. All the Weebs, all the Weebs, because I'll get to my animated one after your next pick, but go ahead your pick.
Speaker 2:I guess my next pick, let's just, I'm gonna do the writers and this is something that I was very proud of to pick I'm gonna pick the Daniels as my writers. I think the Daniels have proven that they just were in front of a screen and they wrote something that was personal. They wrote something that was expansive, they wrote an odyssey, they wrote something that was trying. They wrote something that was needed. Like I said it when we talked about everything everywhere all at once, that movie is I don't care where you were born, what you do, who you've known, who you've seen. That movie is for every single person that's been born and will die. That movie is for every single last person on planet Earth. So, for that reason alone and how weird and oh no, I'm dipping into your genre how just weird and funny and adaptive, oh don't worry, I got weird.
Speaker 1:I got weird for writing.
Speaker 2:I actually have your name here for writing, oh nice, but I can't pick multiple writers. I can't have a team, unfortunately. I was gonna pick Paul Thomas Anderson, but he's like Again. I know I'm saying this as if I didn't have Denis Villeneuve as one of my directors, but I tried to stay away from like the Titans. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, I think the Daniels would be. I didn't pick Low Budget King Gary Edwards for directing.
Speaker 2:I told you to pick him earlier. I told you, I thought that's who you were gonna pick. I forgot about him.
Speaker 1:That's your guy. I'm switching the Russo's for Gary Edwards.
Speaker 2:We should do an episode on like Gary Edwards thought process, like he was, just like he did Rogue One, like how are we gonna shoot this? I'm just gonna go to space. And they were like huh.
Speaker 1:He was like I'm just gonna go to space. Yeah, I'm switching the Russo's for Gary Edwards, it's a trick.
Speaker 2:I love how you just dump them just for your low budget.
Speaker 1:But I'm keeping Tim Burton. Tim Burton still being there is crazy, because I'm catering to an audience now and I gotta stick there. My writer. He doesn't have a lot of screenplays to his name, but I don't care, because if you pumped one out in the future it would probably be great, and I'm taking Neil Gaiman. Neil Gaiman would be really good.
Speaker 2:I like that. I think his writing is, I think it's, you know, dynamic enough to play in any era, and I mean we saw it with the Sandman show that his writing is not. Ooh, I was gonna say somebody that I realized this person cannot be said anymore. I was gonna say Alan Moore, but nope, not gonna anymore. Yeah, yeah, won't play anymore. Yeah, that's a good one. I feel like the writer one is like I don't think people put enough stake into how important comic book writers are and how you know incredible they are at what they do and how they could probably dip their hands in a lot of different types of writing styles and probably be successful.
Speaker 1:I mean Good Omens. He wrote Yep, american Gods, coraline Stardust, but I mean Sandman is just. Yeah, amazing, which I mean he didn't write the screenplays for Sandman, but I mean he wrote the. He wrote essentially the Bible of Sandman.
Speaker 2:So Um, can we do Composer at the same time? Because I just want to see if you're gonna go with the butts and seats mentality, or if you're gonna go. If you're gonna go, somebody that you think will be able to get butts in, like somebody that would potentially get butts in seats. Because I'm gonna give you, I'll give you how about we do two for this one and then I'll do both of my thought processes behind that. Okay, go ahead. Why don't you go first?
Speaker 1:I mean, I think I'm, I think man, you go first because I don't want to steal one of yours.
Speaker 2:So my one that's the A bit like the one that I know is gonna get butts in seats obviously is gonna be Ludwig Gorinzen. That's the one that directly will put people in the seat seat. It's the same thought process I have for Greg Frazier to Roger Deakins. It's the same way I feel about Ludwig Gorinzen to John Williams, like he is going to, or to Hans Zimmer, which Hans Zimmer was subsequently probably to John Williams, like he is. The one that's going to be next is like the guy. Yeah, my one with the absolute potential to get butts in seats in the future is Natalie Holt. Hmm, I think Natalie Holt's work and I was warned because I was either gonna do. I was warned, I was like I was. I didn't know what to do because it was either gonna be Natalie Holt or Nicholas Bertel. I easily could have done Nicholas Bertel. I mean the King, all of Barry Jenkins' projects, and I mean obviously his big one is Succession. That's the one where you know he has his hardware for. But you want to know my fun one, daff's Punk.
Speaker 1:That is a fun one. Get them back. I thought for sure you were gonna take this guy, and I'm glad he's still available at this point of the draft. Michael Giacchino.
Speaker 2:And you know I really wanted to and I have like such a love for and I and it's funny I also almost took him for directing just off the strength of when Will by Night.
Speaker 1:That's not bad.
Speaker 2:And it's again. It's the whole thing of the potential to have the upside. Yeah, I was like whoa, like it's awesome. But and also the whole thing for upside to have potential. Hey, can we add? Let's add a piece of the director category, the upside for absolute potential. Hmm, go ahead, you picking Chiquino, or.
Speaker 1:Can I have him for both? Sure? Sure, I'll take him for that Because I think I was a super impressive overall fun night.
Speaker 2:For the director. I'm going to split it. It's going to be. It's going to be, Obviously, it's going to be what's it called?
Speaker 2:I'm going to take Michael B Jordan as the upside for that's a great one Consummit potential, and maybe that was the thing that he was ordained to do from like the beginning of time. That's a great pick and he needed to go through the acting to get there. Hmm, my other one will be Paul Dano, because I think obviously he made Wildlife in 2018. And I'm just itching for him to make more films because I think he is. I think his film mind is very developed and just very incredible that's.
Speaker 2:But Michael B Jordan will be like my absolute maximum potential for upside Michael B Jordan is a great pick. To give people like me somebody to look at that lens like it's just. I think that's a great pick.
Speaker 1:And also just seems to have like a definitive, like vision or style. Right, at least you know he did greed. This is all we've seen so far, but yeah, yeah, no, that's a great pick. My other one was going to be Danny Alffman.
Speaker 2:Danny Alffman is a good one. Safe reliable and he's not. And it's like it's not just the easiness of saying William's Resimmer, like it's just yeah, it's a simple example yeah, he's still versatile.
Speaker 1:Versatile, he rocks it out on the stage occasionally.
Speaker 2:You know, somebody also added the composer piece. It's Lauren Belf. For the same way I think about Danny Alffman is like somebody that, like you, can insert them into this huge action blockbuster, but the score will still feel relevant. Lauren Belf did the new Mission Impossible movies, the New Age Mission Impossible, so we should.
Speaker 1:I think he said it's really good. I think we should only have five categories left.
Speaker 2:Or six now, because I added something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it will be five after you go.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to do my sci-fi and that would be Tron. Yeah, tron Legacy is. You know, that's one of my comfort movies, like one of my guilty I don't even want to say guilty pleasure, because that movie looks awesome. So, yeah, I think Tron done right. I'm going to take Tron and the conceit that I get Joe Kaczynski after Top Gun, maverick.
Speaker 1:Okay, I can, I can.
Speaker 2:With Tom Cruise and Christopher McQuarrie being like we're going all practical. What do you mean by all practical? Aren't you in a digital realm? Yup, Welcome to the cinema. Welcome to the cinema.
Speaker 1:Man, I still haven't done a biopic yet. Because you got, because you got cooked, I mean you took Oppenheimer, I mean I took Malcolm.
Speaker 2:X as like a backdoor.
Speaker 1:I was going to take.
Speaker 2:Raging Bull, that's not bad. I like Raging Bull. I mean, it's Raging Bull, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:So I think that's what I'm going to do for my biopic. I didn't really have another one.
Speaker 1:I thought, she didn't take Elvis. I could have done Elvis, but I didn't. Could have done Johnny Cash. Could have done Walk the Line. Oh, walk the Line. Yeah, could have done Walk the Line. I should have done Walk the Line. I'm doing Walk the Line. Actually, you changed my mind. I'm sending out Raging Bull, I'm sending Sardinero. You've been replaced by Joaquin Phoenix and Drew Baird. Not Drew Baird anymore, reese Witherspoon. I love that movie. That's a great movie. It's good stuff. It's really good stuff.
Speaker 2:It's your move, it is my move, it's your move. I'm going to go Suspense and I'm going to go Seven. Get me Prime Proud Pit and get me Prime Morgan Freeman, and get butts in seats.
Speaker 1:That's a good pick, man. Should I just follow your lead? Do Suspense a Thriller. Now I'm going to Shutter Island. That's a.
Speaker 2:I actually really like that so much.
Speaker 1:That movie is Talk about Suspense. It was between that and like I think I was thinking about that or the prestige.
Speaker 2:I was going to do. It's funny that I was going to do Prisoners. It was one of mine I was going to have, because Prisoners is just.
Speaker 1:Wow, but yeah, I love Freakin. What did I just say? Shutter Island, yeah.
Speaker 2:You forgot the movie you picked.
Speaker 1:Is that a great look? But yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm going to. I'm going to Let me do Comedy first, because I want to save the 80s one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because nostalgia is nostalgia. My Comedy one is a mold. It's not exactly a thing. Sure, it's cut from the mold, if this makes sense Booksmart, bottoms, edge of 17, merel and the Dime. You know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, it's cut from the new age. Weird comedy that's like socially relevant, like that cut Maybe a sliver of euphoria, not the whole thing, because. But yeah, that type of comedy is what I'm aiming for, because I think, like people, my age would cling on to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, depressed people, I guess Depressed folks with a dark sense of humor and like that are a little artsy, yeah, and like wanting, like you know, to show Bo Burnham's inside.
Speaker 2:What's the movie I'm thinking about?
Speaker 1:8th grade.
Speaker 2:8th grade yeah, that's the whole. That's the mold, like that's the mold of movie that I'm going for. That's a good one.
Speaker 1:I like that a lot. I haven't done cinematography yet. I'm gonna do Bradford Young. No, no shot.
Speaker 2:Look, look, look, look, look. And you want to know what's even funnier and this is before we even talked about anything that we were gonna do today. He said no shot, no shot. And I'm gonna go even further for that too.
Speaker 1:You did your cinematographers already. You're done, you're cooked. I did no, no, no.
Speaker 2:But I just Look, look In my YouTube history who I just watched the video on, and that would be one Bradford Young. You're cooked. If you guys do not know who Bradford Young is, bradford Young. Just three of Bradford Young's credits to throw out. There are most violent year with Oscar Isaac, you're gonna get Selma from Ava DuVernay and obviously the big one is Solo, a Star Wars story.
Speaker 1:Which is getting kind of like people are having the internals thing with that.
Speaker 2:Is that Star Wars internals, where it's like? That's the one that's like wait a second. Also Arrival. He was oh yeah, oh yeah, my bad, let's take out most violent year for the Oscar winner, my bad Arrival where he filled in for Roger Deegan.
Speaker 1:Deegan's yep. Who's supposed to?
Speaker 2:do Arrival and still so obviously Bradford Young to me means a lot to me. Sure, you know he's somebody that I I just showed Rob my YouTube history and this is before we even talked about anything in this. I was watching, you know, he's a very philosophical cinematographer. I just I think he's incredible. It's just his whole mindset behind, like negative fill and how like that creates emotion and all these different things. I think Bradford Young is he's one of the smartest cinematographers out there and just a problem solver, but a philosophical problem solver cinematographer.
Speaker 1:He's one of those guys and this is honestly like how I get this.
Speaker 2:I love that pic so much.
Speaker 1:It's honestly like how I get into cinematography is, like it just happens, like this is how you know, cinematographers have like distinct styles, right? Because, like you're like oh, I like this movie, like I like Arrival, for instance, and then, like you know, maybe like two months later, like I'm like solo Star Wars is on and I'm like I really like the look of this movie, you know. And then, like you know, you know Selma's on and I'm like, oh, you know, watch Selma.
Speaker 2:And then I'm like man, I really like how this movie looks.
Speaker 1:And then you compile these things together of like none of these movies are like why do I like them so much? Oh, it's because the cinematographer Like that's kind of like, that's how I attack. That's how I like. That's how I end up, like observing cinematographers.
Speaker 2:Did this turn into like a Bradford Young love fest? Is what this just developed into? I think he's great, he's just he's incredible.
Speaker 1:I think he's great man. All right, so your go. I think we have what three left. I believe three, four. I think I crossed that one prematurely. Oh, I did, I did. I crossed that one prematurely, yeah.
Speaker 2:You're right. I'm just going to do my game slash book adaptation. I'm just going to take infamous because I just grew up with that game. Who do you want to do it? I'm going to take Tom Blythe to do it to play Cole.
Speaker 2:I think he's. So it was the buzz cut as soon as they cut his hair and the song or the songbirds and snakes. I was like he could play Cole. I think he would. Sure, he would be pretty good. I'm taking as an older, like an older disheveled version of him to play Kessler. I don't know if fast spender would fit it, but I feel like fast spender would be fun and just get him in there. Yes, because he'd be like just absolutely unhinged. That would be kind of cool. Who I would get to do it? An infamous movie. I feel like you need somebody that you know dips in realism a lot Like, somebody that's like a lot of like handheld, like a lot of things like that man. That's a tougher one. I don't know who I would necessarily get to do something like this. Get back to me on that, Okay. But I know I'd want, you know, I know I'd want Tom Blythe to. That's the main thing. Tom Blythe as Cole, I think would be fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that a lot. I'm just going to follow your lead and I already told you this, I spoiled this one beforehand. I'm doing Alan Wake and I'm casting Jake Gyllenhaal as Alan Wake. I'm probably casting Sophie DeMartino as his wife Not bad, not bad. This is his wife, alice.
Speaker 2:Not bad All right, what is it right now?
Speaker 1:Anyways, I'm going to let everyone use theirbeiter Phay on the screen and I'm gonna take my friend James Wan away from, away from Aquaman quite a bit I do take away from. Aquaman and I'm taking away from Fast and Furious. I'm returning him to his kind of horror, spooky roots, and I would let James Wan do an Alan Wake movie. I think that's pretty fun.
Speaker 1:And you can just, you can just hand me my Oscar for for best original song now, or you can do it, or you can do it afterwards. I like that, I like. I think James Wan Alan Wake movie would go absolutely insane, because I think, I think that's honestly where his I mean, he created Conjuring Universe and he was the co-creator of the original saw movie, so the guy knows how to do not just horror but like spooky, spooky, creepy, unsettling horror. And again, as we've established, I guess in my theater, that's my bag. Yeah, gotta be a little weird.
Speaker 2:The freaks and weirdos. Oh, it's basically just Madison from from She-Ho. First it was a little bit weird and a little spooky, but in a fun way, that's.
Speaker 1:Alan Wake. In a nutshell, it was Alan Wake. So yeah, I'm doing, and I just think Jillian Hall would just, he could do a song and dance number if I asked him to. Yeah, come on, not me, kevin Feige would have to ask him.
Speaker 2:Remember when you were in that movie Spider-Man Far From Home, you could do the dance number. He can do it. Delete that footage. Ok for my TV special that's going to air and that's just going to get the absolute most Italian butts and seats would be the sopranos. Just imagine you're in a theater, the lights dim and you just hear the song go on and you're like it's the, it's the last season. You're like whoop, whoop. You know so he was special. I'm going back to my big, big, big, big man.
Speaker 1:So sopranos man that's a great one. That's good. I love that a lot. I love that a lot. What haven't I done? Oh, animated again because I'm for the weebs. Final Fantasy 7, I have a Jillian, I don't care. Come on man, I don't care if I'm the only person in the theater watching it.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm going to do. I'm going to just to make you feel better about that pick, I'm going to remix my franchise and I should do it. Yeah, go ahead. I'm just going to do something that just means the world to me and that's Mr Miracle. I think Tom King's Mr Miracle specifically, I think, is one of it's. It's one of the most important comics that I don't think enough people have read. It's just incredible. I love that. It's just.
Speaker 2:I would get Dylan O'Brien to play Mr Miracle. I think that's a match made in absolute heaven. And you know where I got it from. You know that shot that he has an American. What is it? What is it An American American? What is it?
Speaker 2:The movie American Assassin? Or with with Michael Keaton, where he's sitting in the chair and he's just staring and he's got the beard and the longer hair and he keeps thinking about, you know, the day on the beach. It just reminds me of a panel in that Mr Miracle book where Mr Miracle grew his beard, I grew his hair out and I was like, wow, he can probably play that. Like I'm past the point of like I just I can't live anymore. Like I'm past that, like I think something like that would play a little bit like Peacemaker, but then you also have the big DC implications behind it, like I said, that that book is so special and just so, like I said, it's so freaking important that book is. It's important to me, it's an important subject matter. So I think something like that I would.
Speaker 2:Here's my goal, actually my real life goal, once I get what I need to get done in the next couple of years, and this is see, this is why I need the DCU to also succeed. So by the time, james Gunn's like well, what new things can we add to the DCU? I'm going to be like well, the new gods are there and I think you would like the new gods because you're essentially the new age Kirby, because you also left Marvel to go to DC to take a elevated role. Can I just get the Mr Miracle movie Please, mr Gunn?
Speaker 1:Can I call you James? He's a yes.
Speaker 2:And he's going to tell me yes, and then I'm going to get my team and hopefully some of those that team might be Bradford Young to shoot the movie. That would be cool. I might get Natalie Holt to do the score. To do that. This guy is plotting.
Speaker 1:I am.
Speaker 2:He's plotting for his future through our draft through our movie draft, and I know James Gunn is going to listen to this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course he listens all the time. He listens every week. He listens every week. He emailed us.
Speaker 2:So the Mr Miracle movie, but is directed by me and it's me. It's me and Tom King co-write this movie.
Speaker 1:This guy self inserted himself into the draft.
Speaker 2:I'm going to direct it. Me and Tom King are going to co-write it. Natalie Holt's going to score it. Bradford Young's going to shoot it.
Speaker 1:Yeah that'd be good. That would be good, I would see it. That'd be good. I would go to your theater and see that.
Speaker 2:That's when James Gunn had to or James Gunn's going to have to like like when Seeker Wars happens. James Gunn's going to like be there.
Speaker 1:I think I just have to do a rom-com now. I think I'm done. How did I save that for last? How was it the last?
Speaker 2:one. You didn't do your 80s thing, oh yeah, well, I didn't write that down.
Speaker 1:That's why, all right, I'm going to do rom-com now and I'm going to do oh man, I got two that I'm tossing between. So it's basically either like fun, like wholesome rom-com, or it's like raunchy R rated rom-com, and I don't know which I want to go with. Give me both. All right, I'll give you both. So the raunchy R rated one is knocked up. That's good, I like it, and I think that would get butts in seats and the like. Kind of more wholesome, like cutesy one is 51st dates. That's two good ones. You don't know this, but rom-coms are my bag. I love rom-coms. I love a good rom-com. I'm for the weebs and I'm for the lover boys. Yeah, not bad, those guys that are like embarrassed to be like. I actually love. 10 things ahead about you.
Speaker 2:Not me, I'm not embarrassed. I'll yell it to the little skies I love that movie.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I would probably. Yeah, I'll just do both of those. Then Give me both of those. Actually that's like my R rated one for like for the adults. I'm showing that one at like 11pm Go see knocked up at 11pm, go see 51st dates. At like 6, like 630. Just had supper. You, just you, just fresh off your supper, you were at Olive Garden and you went. You went, you were at Denny's. You were at Denny's and you were just like, hey, let's go see 51st dates is playing. And then you're like, oh, that's nice. And then you go see a Tim Burton movie afterwards, like what the hell was that?
Speaker 2:Now I'm looking at this as a whole and this is maybe one of the best days we've ever done.
Speaker 1:And then you go see. Then you go see the James Wan, alan Wake movie and you're like what?
Speaker 2:is this.
Speaker 1:What is this? Why was he dancing in the middle of it?
Speaker 2:Back in the 80s, when pop culture was poppin, business was booming. Yup, jackets had shoulder pads. Yup, the karate kid was the thing. Oh, did I spoil yours? No, but that's a good one. Perfect. It's not mine, though. Oh, I'm going to remix the category that I made. I'm going to take this by the conceit that I'm not going to take a movie. I'm not going to take a franchise of movies. I'm going to take a person who made these super iconic movies, and I'm going to take John Hughes, who was one of my biggest inspirations.
Speaker 1:John.
Speaker 2:Hughes himself with his filmography together. John Hughes himself. So what does that give me? That gives me six tub candles, that gives me Ferris Bieler's Day Off and it gives me maybe my favorite 80s movie, a slow long with Back to the Future. Obviously, that gives me the breakfast club John Hughes Love that guy.
Speaker 1:You did do it for the film nerds. Good job. I do like that. We kind of drafted these things along like party lines.
Speaker 2:At first we were like we got to put butts in seats and then it became personal.
Speaker 1:Then it became personal. It became like who are my people who? Are my people, the weebs, the freaks, the weirdos, who are people?
Speaker 2:And I was going to say it before we started. I should have said it. I knew this was going to be a super representation of us to like a T and it is, it is.
Speaker 1:It really did end up being that. It is actually hilarious. All right, I guess for my 80 thing I'm just going to do two, because you did a whole catalog. So I'm doing die hard that's not bad at all and I'm doing the Terminator.
Speaker 2:Wow, I love the approach. I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. That's such a smart approach because that's probably more of like a get you know butts in seats Mine, I think, will still like, because I was. I was going to take the easy way out and pick back to the future, but then I was just like there's something about the American teen in the 80s that just John Hughes understood.
Speaker 1:You can show, you can show one of those movies and then you could show, like Ed just says, 17 afterwards.
Speaker 2:That's my, that's the and that's why I just 17 works so well, because I think the director even said how much inspiration he pulled from John, or they pulled from John Hughes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't have like a, I don't have something that I can just show after die hard, so it's got to be the Terminator. It's got to be the Terminator that's just showing them both and you're just like, here you go, here's, here's Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger just in their primes One actor to bring back from, like the from from pre 80s.
Speaker 2:Whoa, you have to bring one actor back from the from pre 80s to be in your movies.
Speaker 1:Like what do you mean? Like I'm taking like, even if it's someone that's still alive, but I'm taking like that prime version of it.
Speaker 2:Let me remix. Let me remix. You get one prime version of any actor.
Speaker 1:Oh, Harrison Ford Easy.
Speaker 2:That's. That's good. That's really good. I'm taking Marlon Brando If I need a prime version of an actor. But Harrison Ford is Harrison Ford, he's even his name is just like he's got a cinematic.
Speaker 1:You tell me I get like 70s, 80s era Harrison Ford and like I can teleport him into into a movie Like now, oh, that's making a quadrillion dollars. God remember the time Harrison Ford is going to be in a Marvel movie. That still doesn't feel like a real thing. Maybe it will never be. Yeah, that's one of those things where like I'm not going to believe it until I'm actually in the theater watching the movie.
Speaker 2:I told you the whole the whole like thing about that was that the the conceit was we're going to give you dial of destiny but you're going to have to be in a Marvel movies. He said it just like that.
Speaker 1:He also like I just can't wait because they're going to wheel him out there to do the press for these Marvel movies that he just is not going to give a shit about. It's funny because, like, or maybe he's going to be really jazzed about it.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know who I really want to add to my director?
Speaker 1:thing is Ben Affleck Scott loves an actor who turns into a director.
Speaker 2:I think it's just a very good pipeline and it's a and he I just listened to an interview he did on the Indie wire podcast where he talked about air and like I just love in which the passion he talks about movies and like he'll be talking to be like, oh yeah, like, like it. Just he's like it's crazy because like we saw him play the Batman for a couple of years and he seems like at the worst and now he's just making movies now and it's just like he feels like he just seems much better.
Speaker 1:So shout out him man. That was fun. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 2:That was actually very fun.
Speaker 1:I do. I do really like that. It just ended up being like a microcosm of like our personalities and like our tastes.
Speaker 2:Because, like we had everything set. But then I was just like but if I were to, just if it was me if I were to, we threw the, we threw the business out the window.
Speaker 1:I'm showing, I'm showing the weird showing the Tim Burton movies.
Speaker 2:So let's table. So maybe this is the part one to the part two, where we actually have to. We're going to figure out the categories, like the genres, and we're going to take the teams that we have. Yeah, we're going to have to insert them with actors that we have, yeah. That would be a fun one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, maybe we'll do that like around, like Oscar time, like when the actual Oscars happen, like this. That can be like a logical kind of follow up.
Speaker 2:You got to bring me a name in your studio too. Now, Not now? Oh, then okay. Then you bring me the name of the studio, all right.
Speaker 1:I can do that. Let's do that. All right, man, I'm going to do that. What have you been doing watching?
Speaker 2:What have I been doing? Slash watching or what Otherwise? Not a lot, to be honest. I mean I kicked on the last of us, part one. I was been tracking through that. I saw Bill, Okay, Bill. So yeah, not as much as I've been, I mean I've been, I've been working on like my own stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like my own. I've been working on film. That's what I've been doing. Yes, I've been having a good time doing it. You learn a lot about yourself doing an artistic thing. So go do the classic quote quote read more, write more, live more. Yeah, whatever crap I was talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whatever that was.
Speaker 2:Whatever that was. Whatever that was.
Speaker 1:I've been playing the last of us part two Cause you hate yourself. You're momos done with it. I think I can't remember. I can't remember how much this game I have left. I'm on, I'm on the second bit, the Abbey bit. That's the bit I'm on, and I have some thoughts that I'm going to save because we're going to talk about that next week.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, we will be reviewing the last of us, part two, unless a fungal infection takes over our world.
Speaker 1:Don't put that out there.
Speaker 2:Put that evil on me, ricky Bobby. That's such a good thing, so good, don't put that evil on me, ricky Bobby. Oh, rip Michael Clark Duncan too. That just made me upset.
Speaker 1:Why do I have to end it?
Speaker 2:like that, say something fun.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm just talking about the last of us, that's not fun.
Speaker 2:That's no fun. Maybe roguelike is fun. How's roguelike?
Speaker 1:I haven't played it yet. I've been playing the story because that's just how I'm built and I, like I told you, I haven't played it since it came out. So I wanted to, and I do have some. I do have some some new perspective on it that that we talked about. Away from away from this that I'm going to dive into next week Because, yeah, I have some. I have some thoughts. I have some thoughts, um, particularly about the whole Abbey thing, and it's not, it's not what you think, it's not what you think. Aw, here we go. I'm not going to be that guy. Yes, you are. I have more nuance about it than that. Um, so I'm definitely. I mean just real quick. Technically, that game is flawless, like it's, it's crazy, it's unbelievable, like the fact that that game was developed on a PlayStation 4 hardware and looks as good as it does. Um, I know they technically call it Last of Us 2 Remastered, which I I do have a bit of a problem with. I wish they would have just said Last of Us 2, director's Cut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can see that Because.
Speaker 1:Remastered comes feels loaded, feels like oh, this should look way better, um, but I mean it's still visually stunning. Technically, as far as gameplay, it's probably the best third person action RPG, not action RPG um, third person kind of adventure combat Gameplay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm. Maybe the only thing I put added that is Ghost of Tsushima. It's close. I think it's the. I think it's the real life aspect of the Last of Us. It's so raw. It's so raw that's the perfect word to use.
Speaker 1:I think that's the best and just the the amount of things you can do. As far as like, it feels like every arena, which is why I'm so excited to jump into the Roguelite mode, the no Return. It feels like every kind of like arena. There's so many different ways that you can attack it, Whereas I feel like in the Last of Us, Part 1, you really only had you had like maybe one of two ways. Like you could be stealthy, but it might also take you 11 hours to clear one room If you're doing the stealthy approach versus if you just shoot everything in the head. Whereas, like Part 2, like I'm more incentivized to use the tools that I have in Part 2 than I was in Part 1. Like Part 1, I never used the, the nail bombs. Never really used them, except for like maybe like the blowdors I would like empty the clip with Bill and you know how.
Speaker 2:You have to walk through the clicker piece those. I use the nail bombs for a lot, but yeah, molotovs was like my bag in. Part 1.
Speaker 1:But now it's like, motivated to do everything but Part 2, like I found myself like there's bits with stalkers and I don't like them. But I found myself like I would place a tripmine like in the door, Like I could use like the listen mode and see like the stalker behind the doorway put the tripmine down, throw like a bottle in front of it, stalker comes out, kaboom. Like I like that, I like being able to like go prone in the grass.
Speaker 1:Oh, the prone add in Part 2 is Put a silence like equip my silence there, boom, pick somebody off with a silence pistol and then, like you know, kind of run around, even like when you're when you get discovered. I love the way that you can break, finally fight back. You can fight back and you can. You can break sight lines Like maybe I can just like I I slipped through like a crack, like I love that they put like the little like crevices that you can like dive through or like slip between, so like maybe I, like you know, get myself into trouble, I can slip behind like a like a bookshelf or something and like go prone into some tall grass that I'm hidden and then like let an arrow out.
Speaker 1:Like the amount of stuff you can do. Which is why I'm so excited to go into the um, the no return mode, because I feel like that's that's why that mode is there is to like use all the different things and, um, use all the different characters and like because I know the characters are going to come with unique skills that, like they can do that other characters can't do, tommy that.
Speaker 2:he's basically Rambo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of Tommy no return highlights. He's him, um. So, yeah, man, I just on a technical level it's, I know people bag on it and then like it became like the cool thing to do, especially then, was like the last, was like naughty dog, like all they're doing is the last of us, but like when you actually sit down and play it again, especially part two, it's just a fun game to play. Like at the end of the day, like, story aside, characters aside, like just mechanically it's flawless, like it really is, like it has the best kind of like I said, one of the best third person action combats ever, like that's not even exaggeration, it just is. You never played stray. So, yeah, man, I've been enjoying that, looking forward to finishing it, probably this weekend, and then, yeah, hopefully I'll sink some hours into no return and we'll come back next week and we'll talk about it, cause, like I said, I do have some, some thoughts.
Speaker 2:I can't stop thinking about this episode we just did because, as like I can't, like I thought about a silver surfer movie that brings Chloe Zhao back and it's like Heath Stanfield, cause I feel like he has a very like sublime nature to him that has and we didn't get. I think the biggest part about what we just did is to highlight and this is why it's talked about with the astronauts, it's perfect how much freaking talent there is out there and how hard these people work to get where they do. More people need to do this and, like I want you because of how talented you are versus you suck because you didn't do the. I didn't like the way you moved in that one scene in that movie.
Speaker 1:Yup, I totally agree, man.
Speaker 2:Um, that's going to do it for us this week I didn't even get to talk about my Jacob Lorde, joe Kaczynski bond, like, like action movie that I have.
Speaker 1:Save it, save it, man, you can save it. Um, yeah, it's going to do it for us this week. You can follow us on Twitter at projects INF underscore BOD. You can follow us on Facebook. You can follow us on Instagram at the project infinite pod. Thank you, and then next week it's going to be the last of us, part two to the discussion, four years in the making. Yup, this is about um, I know we touched upon some ply elements of last of us part two briefly talking about when we talked about the show.
Speaker 2:Um, I talked about it because I played through the last of us part two.
Speaker 1:Yep, I know we talked about it when we touched upon, when we did the review last of us part one, we kind of dove into some part two stuff. But this will be a really, really a in depth discussion on last of us part two. Um, remastered director's cut, However you want to talk about it. Um, we'll talk about the story, Obviously, the characters. Um, definitely want to talk about the gameplay. Definitely we'll talk about no return. Definitely want to talk about the uh, the loss levels.
Speaker 2:I want to talk about the guitar playing.
Speaker 1:The guitar. I'm so bad at it. How are people so good at the guitar playing in that game? You just kind of did people playing like enter Sandman on there, I can't even play, like that Bare head a little, I can't even play the song that they like tell you to play and like how does this work? And then, like Ellie just starts playing and I'm like there, we go, let her do it. Um, you can, you can play, uh, uh, as Gustavo said, zedella in the guitar free play. Like you can pick him as a character. I'm never going to use it Cause, like I said, I don't know how that guitar thing works. Use the touch pad, but like my person plays three notes at the same time, I don't know. I can't play guitar in real life or in a video game. So, um, so yeah, we'll talk about the last of us. Part two. That's going to do it from me, from the do it, do it, do it do it.
Speaker 2:You know what to do.
Speaker 1:The, the, the Bradford young of the podcast. Yes, he was hoping you didn't tell me to be careful. I'll let that one.
Speaker 2:I'll let that one slide. That's the one I wanted manifesting.
Speaker 1:So, signing off from me, let me just quote the late great Colonel Sanders, who once said I'm too drunk to taste this chicken. I don't tell the good nights. One of the best companies of all time.
Speaker 2:Four pounds five ounce. Baby Jesus, why does it have to be?
Speaker 1:baby Jesus, help me Jesus. Help me Tom Cruise, help me, tom Cruise.
Speaker 2:And, if you're listening, james Gunn oh, that was the other thing for the Mr Miracle movie. Elizabeth DeBickey has to play big barter because she's like six, two, fair enough, and she's a good actress.
Speaker 1:He just what's her name? Brittany Nielsen from Rocky Four. Did you play as a juggles wife, oh?
Speaker 2:yeah, and I keep spoiling these because, like also one of the ideas was I was going to get a Jeremy Allen white, elizabeth DeBickey romcom in there called short Kings.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's amazing. All right, we got to go, man. We got to go, man, we didn't. We didn't talk about Jeffrey Wright once. This episode, how did that happen, do we not? Yeah, we did. We talked about him for the oh for Oscars. Yeah, I love.
Speaker 2:Jeffrey Like more than I love air and we will talk about just Jeffrey right next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we will, for those who don't know.
Speaker 2:We're probably like why are you going to talk about Jeffrey Right? No, no, no.
Speaker 1:All right, guys, we'll see you next week. Goodbye, bye.