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It’s another catch up episode. Unfortunately Rob went to Florida, got Covid, recovered, and then promptly had his wisdom teeth ripped out so we had to take a couple weeks off. WE ARE BACK though to talk about all the news and notes from the last couple weeks including DC, Video Games, Directors doing things, show premieres and yes, all the Marvel news that started with Deadpool 3 and bled into the Fantastic 4 cast being revealed.
This week, we navigate the twists and turns of the latest movie, TV, and gaming news, leaving no stone unturned across the fandom multiverse. Amidst the cosmic clash of superheroes and antiheroes, we dissect the fabric of what makes characters like Superman soar and ponder James Gunn's vision for the caped crusader's legacy. Our voices buzz with anticipation for 'Invincible' Season 2, while 'The Acolyte' and 'The Boys' Season 4 promise to upend our expectations of villainy and valor.
We share our feverish excitement for 'Dune: Part Two. Our journey takes a contemplative turn at the end of the episode as we explore the profound impact of 'Final Fantasy VII Remake' on modern gaming, with its intricate themes of trauma and resilience and Rebirth on the horizon. Whether you're a diehard fan or a curious bystander, this episode is a treasure trove of insights and predictions that will leave you eagerly counting the days until our next great adventure together.
Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
02:22 Some DC Stuff Including Batman II and Superman: Legacy
13:41 Release Dates For Some Things: The Boys, Invincible, The Acolyte
18:32 Dune Part II Reviews are In!
23:43 Star Wars Stuff! Bad Batch, BATTLEFRONT RETURNS
27:57 Directors are doing Things!
39:20 The MCU Bomb: Deadpool 3, Fantastic 4, X-Men 97 & Avengers 5
01:17:10 Court Has Been Indoctrinated Into the Final Fantasy 7 Fandom (We Saw Advent Children)
01:36:16 What We’ve Been Up To! Rob – X-Men/Final Fantasy 7 Remake. Court- American Fiction.
Topic for Next Week: Dune Part II
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It’s another catch up episode. Unfortunately Rob went to Florida, got Covid, recovered, and then promptly had his wisdom teeth ripped out so we had to take a couple weeks off. WE ARE BACK though to talk about all the news and notes from the last couple weeks including DC, Video Games, Directors doing things, show premieres and yes, all the Marvel news that started with Deadpool 3 and bled into the Fantastic 4 cast being revealed.
This week, we navigate the twists and turns of the latest movie, TV, and gaming news, leaving no stone unturned across the fandom multiverse. Amidst the cosmic clash of superheroes and antiheroes, we dissect the fabric of what makes characters like Superman soar and ponder James Gunn's vision for the caped crusader's legacy. Our voices buzz with anticipation for 'Invincible' Season 2, while 'The Acolyte' and 'The Boys' Season 4 promise to upend our expectations of villainy and valor.
We share our feverish excitement for 'Dune: Part Two. Our journey takes a contemplative turn at the end of the episode as we explore the profound impact of 'Final Fantasy VII Remake' on modern gaming, with its intricate themes of trauma and resilience and Rebirth on the horizon. Whether you're a diehard fan or a curious bystander, this episode is a treasure trove of insights and predictions that will leave you eagerly counting the days until our next great adventure together.
Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
02:22 Some DC Stuff Including Batman II and Superman: Legacy
13:41 Release Dates For Some Things: The Boys, Invincible, The Acolyte
18:32 Dune Part II Reviews are In!
23:43 Star Wars Stuff! Bad Batch, BATTLEFRONT RETURNS
27:57 Directors are doing Things!
39:20 The MCU Bomb: Deadpool 3, Fantastic 4, X-Men 97 & Avengers 5
01:17:10 Court Has Been Indoctrinated Into the Final Fantasy 7 Fandom (We Saw Advent Children)
01:36:16 What We’ve Been Up To! Rob – X-Men/Final Fantasy 7 Remake. Court- American Fiction.
Topic for Next Week: Dune Part II
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It's the Infinite Podcast. Go tell your friends. It's the Infinite Podcast. My God, it never ends. It's the Infinite Podcast. We're driving towards the Cube. Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Project Infinite Podcast, the podcast covering the infinite and ever-expanding multiverse of fandom, from movies, comics, tv shows, video games. We got you covered. I'm Rob. I'm here, as always with Kourt. Kourt. It's been a little while, not through any of your fault, but mine, because one, I got COVID and then, two, I had my wisdom teeth ripped out Immediately after that.
Speaker 2:So we had to take a little bit of time off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I actually was waiting at the studio for you to show up and you never showed up, never showed up. Never showed up, never gave notice. I actually didn't leave either. I was just sitting there waiting for you to be there.
Speaker 2:And now I'm back. I've returned, like Batman. Batman returned, yeah. So we got some catch up to do, and I don't mean the condiment, I mean catching up on all this news.
Speaker 1:Was that a subtle way of saying condiment King's going to be the villain of the Batman 2? Imagine See. I want to see what type of filmmaker Matt Reeves is.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, we're going to talk about a bunch of stuff. We're going to talk about some DC stuff. We're going to talk about some shows that are coming out. We're going to talk about Dune 2 getting rave reviews. We're going to talk about corporate mergers we love corporate mergers. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about some Star Wars stuff Directors are doing things. We're going to talk about that. And then we're going to finish it off with some Superbowl stuff. Slash all the Marvel stuff that came out pretty much the week of the Superbowl, Because Kevin Feige, I guess, just said woke up mad. He woke up mad and was like here's all the stuff. No, he locked in which I appreciate.
Speaker 2:He locked in, we got the much anticipated reveal of the Fantastic Forecast, much to my dismay, because I want him to keep a secret forever.
Speaker 1:Which is just impossible in this day and age, I know, but it would have been hilarious.
Speaker 2:It would have been really funny if they were able to do that, and we'll finish it off with some Avengers talk, because it's changing, so let's get started Starting with some DC stuff. So Joker 2 is coming. It feels like it's a fever dream. I feel like it's one of those things that people are forgetting about. It's like a thing that's happening.
Speaker 1:I think the conceit behind that was the announcement of what type of movie. It was said that it was going to be two. The news that we also learned that I forget if it was Todd Phillips that said it or Wacky Phoenix that this isn't necessarily a straight up musical. That's not what this movie is. It has musical elements, that there's going to be musical pieces, but it's not a traditional musical in the sense. But I know we're going to get a teaser.
Speaker 1:I think Todd Phillips said in mid-April about but that's a good point about this feeling like this almost fever dream of when is this movie going to come out. It's just weird. This movie sits in a weird realm because Joker felt so you know your main actor for quote unquote comic book movie, one best actor for this movie. So this movie is kind of it kind of lives in a different realm. But you know the way that Warner Brothers is running things that you know tries to put it back into that superhero comic book realm. In my opinion, that's what I think is going on a little bit. So you know this high art quote unquote, high art cinema of what the first Joker was now lives in the realm of. You know the reality of what these comic book movies are and the modern age of what these comic book movies are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just exists by itself. It literally exists, kind of like it's even separate from, I would say, even the Batman. You know, I think it's separate even from that. It is just this kind of like. You know, I don't want to say that it's like this film that just so happens to be based on a superhero, you know, a comic book character, but that's kind of what it is. It's so loosely tied, it just like it's like the story of a guy that just so happens to take place in Gotham City. Yeah, that's really what the first one felt like.
Speaker 1:And I always say for the Batman and it's funny, the Batman also sort of teeters that line too, because I always fight this point to the end of the day If the Batman was not, if he was just a detective of some sort or a vigilante of some sort, and they took the Batman name away, people would have thought that was the best movie, one of the best movies of 2022. I know some people, including myself, do think it is. That movie is gorgeous, it's compelling, but if you take the superhero realm away from it and it's funny that we're going to talk about all this Marvel news and a little bit all this DC news If you take the superhero realm away from it, you see how people's view of the thing will change. It's just having these characters being in that comic book realm. That's why some people will look at it the way that they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then, speaking of the Batman, so a couple things. Penguin has wrapped filming the Penguin series. That's going to be on HBO Max. I'm looking forward to it, I think, definitely looking forward to getting some type of look at it, whether it's a trailer, whatever the case is, I'm intrigued, yeah, yeah, I'm definitely intrigued.
Speaker 1:I just want to see more of Colin Farrell because of just how magnetic of an actor he is. I do think there's a legitimate possibility that Robert Pattinson does show up just for a little bit. But this is going to be a true test of how powerful that first Batman movie was, with just the aura of Batman around the city. I want to kind of see that dive into the psyche of a lot of these villains. And then obviously this is going to be the bridge point. I knew Dune was trying to do a piece of this with the sisterhood, which I think fell through or got postponed or canceled or who knows, but this could work. Obviously, peacemaker's a good example of we didn't know what to expect and then we got an absolute gem. So hopefully the Penguin can perform like that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then, speaking of Batman 2, so it's been confirmed by Vanity Fair that Baird Kilgan will return as the Joker in Batman 2. I don't know what that necessarily means for the plot, sure, Whether he's going to be around or if he's going to. You know, I thought you know, clearly based on the ending, or was it like a? It was the ending, right, it wasn't an end credit scene.
Speaker 1:No, it wasn't an end credit. It was the scene towards the end of the movie, because it wasn't the final shot. It was just when the Riddler and Joker were talking in the prison and then they added the scene after the fact, the full scene, with Baird Kilgan as the Joker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm curious to see how he's implemented, because clearly he's run afoul of Batman already at this point. Sure, so I think you know I was thinking based on where he's at, you know, in this world. I think it'd be kind of interesting if he acts as like a head of a vector X figure.
Speaker 1:I was thinking the same exact thing. I was thinking the same thing where he thinks because of, also because of the experience he had with the Riddler, and now there's this guy that's actually trying to not help him necessarily, but be like this is exact, I know what's going to happen in this next, like he's telling him, like I know what's going to happen, so let's work together for a little bit, and then at the end of this movie he breaks out. That would be such an interesting choice. And again, I can't stress enough how lucky we are to have Matt Reeves, because he has, you know, he has the pop and circumstance to understand this world. We're going to talk about doing it a little bit, but just talking about somebody that has full out control of what they're doing in a franchise type of space.
Speaker 1:Matt Reeves under, I promise you, he understands everything that's that's going on in there too. So I don't think he's going to, he's going to make a decision that's going to derail anything or make anything weird. I think anything that he chooses is going to work. So that's such a that's such a great point that I was afraid to say it, but that it just makes so much sense and I think the main point about that is Barry Kilgan himself. I think that's the main thing is that you know, I think if this would have came out before Masters of the Air and Saltburn, that people would have been like why is he going to be in this movie? And then those two projects came out and they're like oh, we know exactly why he's going to be in this too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I totally agree, and I just think you know, I think it's, you know, I think that kind of premise also kind of harkens back to like the almost kind of like the relationship between the Batman, the animated series, batman and Joker, where they kind of have this, you know, not love, hate relationship, but it's like. It's like a relationship like one can't exist without the other, and I think I don't think the movies have ever dove into that enough. I think the Dark Knight gets close, but obviously it's the first time that those two characters are clashing, so you can't really build that rapport.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the movie has to be the movie too. The movie, the plot, still has to move in a movie, which it does incredibly in that and, like I said, they touch upon it in the Dark Knight, where you know Joker goes.
Speaker 2:you know, I don't want to kill you, what will I do without you? But I feel like this, where the Joker is in the Batman universe, I feel like they can really lean into that, whether it's you know Batman kind of going to the Joker as it relates to, I don't know, maybe Hush is running around.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I think the villain of this movie is going to be. I think it's, and I feel like everybody was not getting the point about. You know the Hush money and, like you know the reporter with the same last name as Hush and the moot Like I think that reporter is going to whoever plays Hush it's going to be. Whoever the son of that reporter is is going to be Hush. That's going to probably be the plot to the second movie. So you know you have Hush. You do this personal villain because that's what you know the next step in a second one It'd be.
Speaker 1:This is a storyline we haven't gotten, but is one of the most famous Batman storylines in the comics. Like this would be the perfect time to pull Hush out but still have Joker looming in the background. You still have the Gotham underworld looming in the background, and that's why Penguin is so important. Like this universe has so much potential to be something you know, something truthfully awesome and incredible. And just this piece that's untatened by like anything else, like you, can just live as its own thing. Like this you know I hate to use the words, but like this, like high art version of what you know, the possibility of these super projects. Super projects can be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, totally agreed. And then Superman Legacy is a thing that is happening. We got a cast is all together having a great time. We got a first look at the logo.
Speaker 1:Yeah they're using the Kingdom Come logo, which, in hindsight, he did tweet that picture that said you know what are the? I forget what the. What he said in the caption, but it just it was the picture from. It was the, you know, the cover to Kingdom Come and everybody was just like okay, but I think it's more of like the ideal of what this Superman is going to be like. You know, this movie is probably going to come out in a time where we need this movie to come out. I think that's something to be said.
Speaker 2:If you don't know what that means, go back and listen to our episode where we talked about Kingdom Come. Mm, hmm, cheap plug.
Speaker 1:Cheap plug. That wasn't. No, it was an expensive plug. We'll take it, but yeah, just this world you know that we're living in, like hopefully this movie can provide some you know the basis of what the superhero and Superman is and that's some hope.
Speaker 1:So I don't know, I just I have a very, very good feeling about this movie. I don't know what it is, I mean, I know what it is. It's the combination of you have James Gunn there. David Cornswet looks incredible. I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be a staple Superman for, you know, the modern, modern age, because it's not like we didn't have Henry Cavill a couple, like two years ago. Yeah, but yeah, I just there's so much potential and, you know, at first I was a little nervous about them putting all the superheroes in there. But then the logo and then the idea of you know them. They're not I don't think they're adapting Kingdom Come, but just the ideologies of what Kingdom Come is like. Yeah, they're just going to apply it to the present day Superman of like this is the blueprint of all what all you guys should be looking up to right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think that's exactly right. Like obviously I think people are looking a little too deep into it as far as, like how are they going to adapt Kingdom Come when that story takes place a million years? Like into all these characters, kind of you know careers, and like that's not really the point of Kingdom Come. Like I don't want to reallocate it but, like I said, you can go back and listen to that episode of listen to us talk all about that and you know it is. That's what I think. That's where I think I think that's an interesting place to take a Superman movie. It's interesting place to take that character. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's going to help boost the universe to, because it's. You know, what I say about Marvel right now is like there's no main characters. Like not only are they creating this main character, it's kind of what they did with Tony Stark. He was looming everywhere in the MCU after that first movie. He was looming. Everything there was, Star Trek, everywhere there was. You know, all these things were incumbescent about how Tony Stark would think about this or deal with this. Like I think that's an important piece for what Superman is going to lead into that world. I think it's going to be. I think it's going to be awesome and I do think he is going to. He is going to just direct this movie, right? I don't think that.
Speaker 2:I feel like they're too late into the game.
Speaker 1:And there's no director announced, they're already doing it right through. I think it's going to. He's just going to do it himself.
Speaker 2:Fine, I'll do it myself.
Speaker 1:And I think I think they did say that they're taking most of the team from Guardians 3, which we both said is a very good looking movie. It's, I think it's one of the better looking Marvel movies, I think, and superhero movies overall too, so that's just a good choice as well. That movie was surprisingly practical for lack of a better term in some points, which I appreciated so good. Take your team and James Gunn don't let anybody get mad at you for taking your team, because people don't realize how many other directors also take their teams with them and apparently you're the only one that's not allowed to do it Because he's on Twitter. Because he's on Twitter. Sorry, stephen Amell.
Speaker 2:So we got some release dates for some things so Invincible, oh god. Season 2, part 2 is coming out in a couple weeks. They should have just done this whole thing at once.
Speaker 1:Yep, wasn't there a reason that people all forgot about that? They didn't do them together? I'm sure there is. Wasn't it strike-related that these two didn't come out in the same time? Probably. So I'm going to, without the knowledge, knowing right, this second I'm just going to give it the benefit of the doubt and just say I'm happy we're getting this. How about that? I'll take the positive. Oh yeah, I talked about superman, so now I'm feeling overwhelmingly positive. So yeah, so let's just say, let's just take it at what it is. The first four episodes right, it was four episodes Great. That episode specifically with Omni-Man, the Omni-Man anthology episode specifically, was great. Yeah, you know, would I have liked it to just come out all at once? Yes, do? I think they probably felt a little bit more comfortable, especially after the success of Stranger Things season four, with that split, sure, but you know we're going to get what we get, and what we get is just incredible animated TV with Invincible yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2:Josh Keaton is going to be in the second half, I mean they're going to do it.
Speaker 1:They're going to do it, I think so yeah, he's going to be Spider-Man. Because, especially all the multiverse stuff that's going on, I mean, this season is a multiversal season, that's the whole point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I think they're going to. I think they're bringing him in as Spider-Man, which will be cool. We're getting the Acolyte on June 5th, which is a show that has shrouded in mystery. But for good you know, for good I think. I think the show has a really interesting premise, yeah, and I'm excited to check it out. I mean, we're going to get a look at it at some point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's coming out in June, right? Yeah, I'd assume you know. I don't know if a month is enough time to not talk about the thing, so I'm going to say sometime in, probably mid-March, we're going to get a look at this. I was going to say May 4th, but I think that's too late in the game to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to it Again, one of these things that's kind of been flying under the radar that I'm definitely looking forward to, and then the boys finally got to really stay. The people have been asking and the people have finally gotten an answer. So June 13th will be the premiere of the boys' season four.
Speaker 1:And we got a poster and that poster had Ms Newman with Holmlander in the same picture. Go, please, please, please, go watch Gen V, because not only is Gen V just incredible on its own, I do think this is the bridge season. This is like the boys' season 3.5. And we didn't. You're watching the first three episodes. Three episodes you're like, no, surely they won't. And then they just went full send. This is the boys, like this is. That show just stands so well on its own and obviously she had a huge, huge piece in this season and going into season four, and this is the whole plot of season four. I get spoilers for Gen V. We have a virus for the soups. So now the clock's ticking and for sure this is going to be the last season.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so. I could see it so kicking around Maybe a five season show.
Speaker 1:Five season seems right. I wonder, I wonder, but yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2:We got that first kind of hype trailer a little while back and now we finally got it released date and I think you know, I think Gen V did exactly what it needs to do it bridged the gap between three and four. It didn't just maintain the hype, it kind of accelerated it and got people even more excited, which I think all great kind of in between calls and spin offs should aim to do.
Speaker 1:What was coming out? When Gen V was coming out, there was another superhero show that was coming out at the same time. What?
Speaker 2:Marvel Secret Invasion was it?
Speaker 1:Yes, it was Secret Invasion and I remember it was coming out at the same time.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I was. It was Secret Invasion, and I remember I was like I was so ready Like I think, once it got towards the second half of Secret Invasion, I was like making sure Gen V was the first thing I was watching too. I was like making sure, like as soon as it dropped because those shout out Amazon Prime and Dropset Midnight on the East Coast, which never happens, everything else will do West Coast time I was like as soon as this comes out, if it was the next day, like the day it came out, I was that was the first thing I was going for. I wasn't going for Secret Invasion and I think wasn't there, wasn't the invincible started during the end of Gen V. I think, yeah, like I was like I'm going to Gen V first over anything else, yeah, gen V was absolutely fantastic Speaking of fantastic.
Speaker 2:Nope, not yet, Not yet. So Dune Dune 2 is around the corner. The reviews are in some of the reviews, the important reviews, just kidding, but there are some reviews out there and it might be. It might be the movie.
Speaker 1:It might be. The movie is right. I mean the. You know you, you had your preliminaries and you know your test screenings and everything was positive. And then you know, obviously, the premiere. You always take premieres with a grain of salt because these people are being invited to watch them. Unless it's objectively bad, then these people are being invited, flown out, hanging out with celebrities to watch this movie and their peers. So obviously it could be a little bit heightened Now. Then you get into where you can probably take it a little bit. More serious is when you do the press screenings for all the other ones that couldn't go to the premiere.
Speaker 1:Through this whole thing, this movie, through all the critics screenings, is at a 98% certified with 80 something reviews. Right now I don't think people understand how insane that is in the modern age to hold that for a franchise property like that. Franchise properties usually don't get that type of love. 98%, 80 plus reviews. It is. It's looking like there's movie. You know what have they been saying? This is the Empire Strikes Back in the Dark Knight of the modern age. This is one of the best war movies that's ever been released. This is the people are calling this one of, if not the definitive sci-fi film. Those are some absolutely monumental claims to make, but I think Pete and I I'll always make this point it's not about what the movie is, it's about the personnel you have behind the movie. And look at who they have. Denis Villeneuve is him and Chris Rinoan have been hanging out quite a bit over the last because obviously they had two films film and IMAX. I always say that they're like the two, like you know, blockbuster directors that are like the. You know they still have their cinema layover over the, over the blockbuster-ness, and what Denis is able to create is just, truthfully, just, it's like it's awe inspiring that he is able to keep the quality that he does still take this franchise that was unadaptable to many and you know, have this cast pull out all these incredible performances from the. And you know, handle a cast that size with all.
Speaker 1:And you know I've been reading through, uh doing exposures that Josh Brolin did a whole bunch of. You know he did a whole bunch of poetry for and one of the things that he talked about was like all those egos need to be left at the door as soon as you step out, like you're talking about maybe this new. You know how we talked about the movie star thing, where you're talking about Top Gun. Um, you know, I'll probably put Zendaya and Timothy Shalaman, florence Pugh and Austin Butler like we're going to talk about Glenn Palin a little bit. Like we actually might be getting to a point where that theory might not be as true.
Speaker 1:As you know, we we thought it was, which is, I think, is a good thing Like we we truthfully are getting some and all of them are, I think. Who's the oldest one? Austin or Florence Pugh or Austin Butler are the oldest ones in there. What are they in there? Either late twenties or early thirties. Like we actually might have some movie stars on the way if we don't have them already. And you know, all these things culminated into an incredible movie. Is what? What we're being told? So we're going to an early screening. Um, I cannot be more excited, like this is. I haven't been excited about a movie like this and the the longest time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Sunday Sunday, sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday we will be, we'll see this movie. We will have a very, very, very non-spoilery review of it. Um, obviously, because it doesn't come out until later that week. Um, so, yeah, what we're going to talk about it's going to be very, not surface level, but it won't involve any any really story stuff. Um, because obviously we don't want to step on anything and careful, careful.
Speaker 1:There's spoilers running around the internet as about a specific character, so careful, careful with a capital C, yeah, so yeah, I'm really looking forward to to um.
Speaker 2:you know, I the first one was mind blowing.
Speaker 1:I actually just watched the first one yesterday and I told you I've I've seen that movie maybe four, five times, at this point six times, whatever. Each time I watch that movie it gets better and better, and better and better. And I mean, you know you want to talk about movies standing on on their own, but you know I'm not naive enough to not understand that this is part of a franchise, like you know, evolving, and that's what a lot of the reviews are saying. Like this movie is. Like it makes Dune one like infinite at that point, like the two of them seamlessly together, it does feel like a first half. But also Dune two, just by itself, feels like this, you know, but she, like the review, the reviews have been just insane. Like cinematic achievement of the century. Like this, like some of the things I've been seeing, like people like you, they can't remember, they can't forget it. Like they were sitting in their cars after they watched the movie because they couldn't process what they just saw. Like give it give it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready for it. Um, got some Star Wars stuff to talk about besides the accolade. I guess we could have thrown the accolade into this bit. Um, but yeah, we got a Bad Batch final season trailer. Um, that show was fun, that show was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not. I'm not caught up on that show. Hopefully at some point I will. Um, I did. I did actually enjoy season one more than most people did, I guess. Um, but I mean you can tell them the big reveal for the, for the, for the, for the adventurers is back.
Speaker 2:Our old pal. The Saage Ventures is back which I mean is not a surprise. I mean it's Star.
Speaker 1:Wars, anybody can come back.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's Star Wars and in this kind of new wave of Star Wars, they're obviously, very rightfully so, are in love with that Clone Wars stuff. They just are, from Ahsoka to this to you know, the actual Clone Wars getting another season like the final, final season. Um, they clearly love this stuff and they should, they should.
Speaker 1:And a lot of people are saying this trailer like. This trailer feels a lot more like Andor, which is where this show should live in a lot of people's like it feels more mature. I'll say yeah, and it's always, I think, a good thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some of the Clone Wars stuff is some of the best Star Wars out there, like just ever that it's ever existed. So, um, I'm glad, I'm really glad. Um, and then, surprise, surprise, so PlayStation announced that the Star Wars Battlefront games from from way back in the day are being remastered and launched on March 14th Battlefront 1, battlefront 2, the uh, I forget what it the actual title Complete Collection or something like that. Um, it's gonna have fully supported 64 player online multiplayer. Um, they're adding new maps. They're adding Kit Fisto and Nassaj Ventress as new.
Speaker 1:Uh, jedi slash, sith, heroes, villains, I don't think that will be the last of them, by the way.
Speaker 2:No, I don't, I, I don't know, I don't know. This is, this was a surprise to a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just came out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Um, they're adding, yeah, like I said, new maps um and they, you know they're fully supporting one new. You know the new. All the campaigns are coming back Um that Star Wars 2 or the Battlefront 2 campaign. I have very fond memories of where you follow the? Um the 501st Legion, from when they're clone troopers fighting in the Clone Wars. All the way through you go through the original trilogy and that 501st Legion becomes basically um the Empire's elite Stormtrooper squad. It's a really great campaign Um. Um, as far as shooters like first person, third person shooters go, I think it's maybe the best campaign, um, but maybe it's up there with, like the model, warfare 2 campaign.
Speaker 1:Black Ops 1 is also great.
Speaker 2:Black Ops 1, it's in that kind of region Um so I'm super the numbers. Darth. What do they mean? So I'm super keen to check this out. Um, I think it's going to be awesome. I mean, things like these are risks. Um, it's. It's one of those things where you know, is my, is my memories of the thing you know as good as the thing actually was, or or are my memories just? Make it think, make me think it's better than it actually was. But um, we'll see yeah we'll see.
Speaker 2:I mean all my memories of this game, of these games, were always fun. I think the newer Battlefront games were okay. Um, Battlefront 1 obviously was lacking in content. Battlefront 2 was disastrous at launch. Um and then got much better.
Speaker 1:Much like.
Speaker 2:Cyberpunk yeah. Yeah, I think Battlefront 2 had a really great um long standing support. They added a bunch of cool characters and and things. But you know those, those launches, man, you got to nail them. It's few and far between that. You get a game like Cyberpunk 2077. That kind of stays in the zeitgeist.
Speaker 1:I mean we just saw it with, we just saw him with um, with Suicide Squad kills the Justice League, like your lunch is so crucial. And I mean we're going to see in a week with Final Fantasy Rebirth, like what a launch can do for a game. How can make or break a game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll talk, we'll talk, we'll talk about Final Fantasy 7 at the end of this Cause. Uh, we had, we had some, some fun this week, um, but yeah, I, I agree. Um, you know, nostalgia is a tricky thing, so we'll uh we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1:So tricky they made a Black Mirror episode about it. They did.
Speaker 2:Isn't that show coming back?
Speaker 1:I believe so, I believe so.
Speaker 2:It is right, um, all right, man.
Speaker 1:I mean when the directors are doing things whenever the world gets weird. Black Mirror is like ooh directors are doing things. Directors are doing things?
Speaker 1:What are directors doing? So I mean, I'll you know I'm going to. I'm going to throw a curve ball with what I'm going to start with. I mean Jordan Peele. He's coming back in 2025. I don't know what this movie is going to look like. I don't know who's going to be in this movie. It's going to be weird. It's going to be weird. It's going to be whore. It's probably going to be incredible, Like all of his other movies.
Speaker 1:It's going to have a one word title Yep, I hope he never stops that. Um, I guess the question I'll ask you is who do you want in this movie? Um, who I want in the movie, maybe. Who do you want in the movie and what do you want them to tackle in this movie?
Speaker 2:Oh man, I don't know because he's even if I thought of like a thing for it.
Speaker 1:it's not going to be the thing it's not going to be the thing anyway.
Speaker 2:So it'll just be like a different. He's like the. He's like the. He's like the good version of M Night Shyamalan.
Speaker 1:You're like he's best case scenario. M Night Shyamalan, You're like what is this movie about?
Speaker 2:And then he's like this is what it's actually about, and you're like whoa. I don't know, man, I don't know. Get John David Washington in one, Sure Can he act. We don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, this, this will be the test. Then Get him in one, but he's going to have to make it a little bit more sci-fi if that's the case, cause anytime John David Washington is in a sci-fi movie. It's like if I had a nickel, for anytime John David Washington was in a sci-fi movie and I had the question, but I was locked in the whole time. I'd have two nickels, but that's just one more than I thought I ever would have had. Thanks, thanks the creator.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk about Gareth Edwards too, in a little bit. You are, um, I guess, if I'm thinking about anything I'd want him to tackle, maybe he can dip into HB Lovecraft a little bit, start to get the get the monsters out a little bit. I think that would be a fun realm for him to to leap into. I don't want to talk about any, you know. I don't want to talk about anything else, like any philosophical things, cause you know he's too smart for my own good, so I don't even want to think about, you know, any, any subliminal messaging he'll put in there.
Speaker 1:Um, however, I somebody I would want to see in a film by his. I mean, I would love him to take the swing, you know and maybe double down on your fact and something I told Chris for Nolan does for his next movie, but maybe give me John David Washington and Denzel at the same time with him. That would be fun. I just don't know if Denzel would do a movie like that. Yeah, that's not, that's not his MO, yeah, um, I just I think that would. That would be a kind of a fun concept, Like a like a father son thing.
Speaker 2:He's also working with a a Kojima on Kojima's next game, yep, and he's a collaborator with that. So, like Jordan Jordan, one of the most interesting people like in Hollywood.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:He's, he's he's one of the best. Yeah, it's awesome. Good for him. And also, who else is doing things? Well, yeah, yes, gary Edwards is doing things.
Speaker 1:And this was the, this was the like, the, this is what. Why we were going to talk about the directors are doing things. I just wanted to throw a couple other people some bones, but Gareth Edwards is going to take the Jurassic world franchise, which is all types of awesome. You know. You know what I thought about and I we were walking by the movie poster after we saw what we saw yesterday. I was just thinking I was just like do you think Gareth Edwards looks at like the Godzilla franchise now? And he's just like what, what did you do? Like, what did you do? I got Brian Cranston to be in a Godzilla movie. So what did you guys do to? What did you do to the game that I love?
Speaker 2:You turned it into the monsters version of passive here. Right what?
Speaker 1:happened. I made like this Cloverfield S movie in 2014. That was what I instill. One of my favorite underrated movies that's ever come out Like. I think that first Godzilla movie from 2014 is. I think it's special. But for him to get the Jurassic world like this might be his definitive franchise. That he's going to get this is like. This is pretty cool. I just wonder. I see, just going to make this movie about a T Rex.
Speaker 1:Well, it's going to be. Well now it's going to be super. You know it's going to be super low budget feeling. Yeah, he's going to use like he's going to use iPhones to shoot the thing. Like I can't, I can't wait. He's going to build the Jurassic Park out of Legos. So I mean you want to talk personnel, because we were just talking about doing it.
Speaker 1:I mean, greg Fraser shot Dune, also him and Orin Sofer. So I do think he's going to get Orin Sofer to shoot this too. I think Orin Sofer is going to start to be on like the, the ascent into the realm of where we look at Greg Fraser too. There's a reason that you call Orin Sofer. Like you get Greg Fraser, who's you know the modern day Roger Deakins, and like obviously he can't stay to shoot the movie because he's shooting Dune. So the second guy you call like that guy is probably going to be something special if he trusts him with this. So I do think he gets Orin Sofer to be your cinematographer Anybody you want to see in this franchise specifically. I just I feel like this is going to be a little bit more low profile, but you know they're going to have, like it's going to have a little bit more artistic value to it. Hmm, yeah, I don't know Adam Driver. He gets his redemption from 65.
Speaker 2:I was just saying, if you didn't do that other dinosaur Jason movie, then you could play a scientist in a.
Speaker 1:Jurassic World universe that would be kind of cool. Stephen Yuen Stephen Yuen might be fun. That would be kind of. I actually like that quite a bit. John David Washington.
Speaker 2:Put him in everything until we can figure out if he can act. It no no, no.
Speaker 1:You just keep putting him in sci-fi things and then we'll never know man. I like that Stephen Yuen. I feel like he would be cool in one of these.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as like a, like a. I don't know if he has to say it. I guess he could be like a scientist guy.
Speaker 1:Oh, can you, because this is the best transition I'm ever going to have. Can we get Glenn Powell in this movie? Do we have Glenn Powell? Being the main character in this movie. Speaking of Glenn Powell being the main characters in movies, would he be too, chris Prattie?
Speaker 2:No, I don't know. I just I think Is he too handsome to be in Jurassic Park?
Speaker 1:No, no, absolutely not. No, no shot, no shot.
Speaker 2:Is he too handsome to be in Twisters?
Speaker 1:Well, he's like a comment commentate what? What did I say? So, glenn, glenn Powell, right, this is where you talk. We're going to talk about Twisters, but this is going to talk about us. This goes back to the movie star point. Glenn Powell is a movie star, he's a classic movie star. Um, glenn Powell, we have this Twisters reboot, remake. It's a sequel sequel?
Speaker 2:It's a remake? I don't know it's a remake, but it has an S at the end, I'm in.
Speaker 1:I'm in for a couple of reasons. I mean the cast is good. You have Glenn Powell, you have Daisy, edgar Jones, anthony Ramos, anthony Ramos, like that's. It's a pretty solid cast. Lee Isaac Chung, who directed Minari, is directing this movie, much to Rob Chagrin. I was shocked. He was beside himself when he learned this information. He said what about this, this medium budget or this low budget indie movie? That's super high, emotional. How did that get you to Twisters? And I'm like you must have not seen Minari. It's all about the Midwest. I'm in Glenn Powell's Kevin Bacon of this movie, this generation what did I say? He's like Val Kilmer, kevin Bacon mixed into one and you get Glenn Powell. Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2:James.
Speaker 1:Gunn, you had the opportunity to do the right thing Make him Hal Jordan. You have. You have the maybe the easiest layup of all time to make somebody Hal Jordan. You're running out of time. James Gunn, yeah, he's, he's. He did his, he did his round sheet romcom.
Speaker 2:What's, Cindy sweetie?
Speaker 1:What's Cindy sweetie? Like he's starting to become a movie. You gotta, you gotta get him while he's hot. He was in Top Gun, he was in Top. He's going to be in. He's probably going to be the main character he stole.
Speaker 1:Top Gun from Miles Teller and he's probably going to be the main character in the second one, cause he stole it from Miles Teller. Yeah, yeah, and I mean Miles Teller's. Miles Teller is still one of the best actors on the planet, but you know, glenn Powell is on an ascent. That's pretty, pretty rare right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what else happened to the Super Bowl Quiet Place 3? Quiet Place 3.
Speaker 1:I'm in. I'm in that trailer Like, like the, very good. I love the. It's funny to talk about tone because the tone's pretty pretty good, it's pretty congruent. But this one just feels a little bit more like. I just love the immediacy of the fear. I think that's what's really good about this one too. Obviously, this is the day that they, that they all came to Earth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a prequel. It's a prequel it's a quiet place. 3. It's a prequel.
Speaker 1:The personnel you have in this movie is really good. I mean Diamond Honsu, lupita Nyong'o, joseph Quinn we hate Joseph Quinn.
Speaker 2:We'll get there.
Speaker 1:We'll get there, it's coming out on my birthday. Yeah, I'm in. It's good stuff, I'm in.
Speaker 2:What else?
Speaker 1:That was it. Did we even talk about Ryan Coogler making a vampire movie? There you go, there it is, go back to it. We jumped the gun on the director's doing stuff. Ryan Coogler's back and we love that. Ryan Coogler's a dear friend of the show. We would like to think he's a dear friend of the show, but we've spoken highly of Ryan Coogler. I said before we hopped on. He's gotten every time he's directed something, he keeps getting better and better and better and better at just the craft of directing. Each time he does something. So now him and Michael B Jordan are teaming up for this vampire movie where I think they said that he's going to what's his name? Michael B Jordan's going to play twins. Call the parent trap people. Oh no, it's a Gemini man.
Speaker 1:Oh no, no, no, no, cancel the movie. I'm actually out, I'm out. What did you talk about after Earth before this?
Speaker 2:Oh no, don't bring me back there. Don't bring me back to that place, the quiet place. He's only 37. We say this every time about him, and the stuff that he's done in his short time as a filmmaker is insane yeah because he's only done four movies.
Speaker 1:But think about the four movies he's done. He's done two of the most successful superhero movies ever he's done. He reignited a franchise which was otherwise done and now that franchise is running. And Fruitville Station is one of the more impactful movies of the 2000s to 2010s era. Yeah, guy doesn't miss man. And now I just I can't wait. I just want to see what Michael B Jordan's influence is going to be on this too. I wonder if he's going to have a producing credit on this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's very well good what did you say there's a point I wanted you to make. I didn't know if you're going to pass it. Which point? Remember when we were talking about who was going to direct the oh yeah?
Speaker 2:Why yeah?
Speaker 1:Maybe you should have, instead of doing that, marvel's like wait a second. You think this is out of spite? On whose part? On his spot? Obviously not, because I think he's too mature for this book. Well, in what way that he didn't get the call to do Blade.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe Because I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's weird that he's in the Marvel you have this two time Oscar winner actor that wants to play Blade Well.
Speaker 2:I said this. I forget what we were talking about conversation we were having. Oh, I think it was way back when we were talking about who's going to direct the next Avengers movie and I was just like you have Ryan Coogler in your stable. He's done two of your best movies. Maybe just let him do it.
Speaker 1:He can handle a cast. The personnel he brings with him too is really I mean, just the teams he brings with him. You're probably getting lead with Goressen for a score. You're getting such good people along with you and, like I said, you have. I think that he would have been a great choice to do that. So, yeah, he should have. Maybe this is not a spike, he's just like you know what? You didn't give me Blade, I'm just going to make my own vampire movie.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do my own vampire thing.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do my own thing.
Speaker 2:No, I'm going to do my own thing and then yeah. So, speaking of Marvel boy, did they ever come out swinging last week?
Speaker 1:So there's this little sports thing called the Super Bowl Sports ball Sports ball, the sports ball happened.
Speaker 2:Taylor Swift happened. No, no, taylor Swift saved football.
Speaker 1:What was it? It was the most viewed event since the moon landing. What? No, we talked about moonfall also before. Why did we start talking about bad movies before we came on here?
Speaker 2:Because I was shocked that Roland Emmerich wasn't directing Twisters.
Speaker 1:But then how did we get into the talking about after Earth? I don't remember. Oh, we were talking about M Mike Shyamalan. That's why.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. Yeah, boy, did Marvel come out swinging last week, first and foremost during the sports ball during that. During that happened, a trailer dropped for Deadpool 3, which I mean that was the worst kept secret ever.
Speaker 1:We knew that was coming. You know that video of DJ Khaled when he has the drink in his hand and he stands up. That was immediately me when I saw the Deadpool like the Marvel Studios logo pop, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's not Deadpool 3. It's officially going to be called Deadpool and Wolverine. Obviously it looks promising. It does look promising.
Speaker 1:I just I told you I got the feeling that I hadn't felt. It was just that whole week, like we're about to talk about like that whole week it was like major casting announcement, major movie trailer comes out and I'm like I haven't had this feeling since like 2021. Like I haven't felt this way in so long. So we follow Wade. He's he's like a middle aged, like he's retired, he's retired. Faker retired, I don't know. I feel like he still is doing the thing.
Speaker 1:But you know something did you get the feeling that something's off, like something doesn't feel right in this first part, and I think it's because of all the timelines, timeline stuff that he messed with in the end. Well, that's the plot to this movie. The plot to this movie is going to be obviously that we don't know what the like. The main main plot but we know what it's going to probably be about is obviously the TV is a thing. Now. You know the. He does all the timeline stuff.
Speaker 1:At the end of the X-Men, loki saves the soils for Loki season two. Loki reignites the multiverse again. So this, all these other universes are living. You know he. He does all the timeline stuff at Deadpool 2. The TV shows up at his doorstep. In this trailer. He gets recruited instead of being pruned, and then he's just like can you murder everybody in the Fox universe? That's what I that's what this movie is probably going to be Seems that way, can you take Wolverine with you as well? But now then, when I got to the middle of the show, I don't think that's necessarily the whole thing, because he was in the Avengers Age of Ultron opening scene. Yeah, you don't think they're going to put some people in this movie, do you? Oh, they absolutely are. But like not Fox people, some MCU people in this movie.
Speaker 2:I think they will. I think they will do the what they did in Deadpool 2 with the first class group. They'll be something similar. It'll be a lot of backshots of of characters, heads, I think. But I mean they'll make it work, because I think Ryan Reynolds has his fingerprints all over this thing and I don't think, you know, he would have ever he, nor Hugh Jackman, I don't believe, would have ever agreed to do this if they didn't have their hand prints all over it. That's why I have so much faith in it. First and foremost, I'll also say the no way home.
Speaker 1:thinking of things for this, and where Marvel's at right now they probably were like all the stops that they were like reserved on for Multiverse of Madness are like we don't, we can't. I don't think they can afford to pull any punches right now and I mean this is the best property for all that stuff Anyway.
Speaker 2:I mean you can. Deadpool is a great frame of reference because you can.
Speaker 2:You can get away with anything with that character and it works right, without it feeling corny or whatever the case is, because they'll play it. They'll play it straight, they'll play it, you know they'll. He'll commentate on it, I'm sure you know. Whatever the case is, whoever decides to show up in this movie we already saw Pyros back yeah, yeah, from from the X-Men franchise. So that is who I will I mean the first Domino to fall, obviously, no pun intended. Yeah, because Domino is not in this movie. No, I think.
Speaker 1:Zazie Beach said that she's not in this movie. I'm pretty sure she she said herself, which we don't know.
Speaker 2:But I'm expecting multiple variants of Wolverine and this, not all of which may be huge, I think they're going to do some of the.
Speaker 1:If you want to talk about a blueprint, they're going to probably do the Multiverse of Madness John Krasinski. Like, this movie is a place where you do all the fan cast stuff. Yeah, so maybe Daniel Radcliffe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he would do it.
Speaker 1:I think he would too.
Speaker 2:He would absolutely do it, especially if he gets to play like a wacky Wolverine, Because that's who he is now.
Speaker 1:I love that for him by the way, what an arc to take after being the most famous franchise people on the planet.
Speaker 2:We're the most famous kid actor who ever lived. The boy who lives came to be in a Deadpool movie and then he just started doing just the most bizarre stuff good for him yeah. So I could definitely see him pop it up in this. There's, I mean, there's a couple of things that we know of, we think that are happening.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, we know that Jennifer Garner is going to be in this movie, which I just I just have a feeling. I know it's a touchy subject for Ben Affleck, but I just have the weirdest suspicion that he just also said I'll be in there for five seconds.
Speaker 2:I think he'll do it just because it's a fun dumb thing and he's not expected to like carry the weight of a universe on his shoulders Like he's going to be like. Yeah, I'll suit up his daredevil and do it. I'll suit up his daredevil and do a dumb thing. Can you murder me like?
Speaker 1:immediately murder me, yeah, yeah. You think that you think that they'd get the, not the, not the OGs, because I do think the OG Fantastic Four, including Chris Evans, is going to be in here. You think they'd get the fan forstick team and just immediately murder them. Like I'm talking, just brutally murder them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, man, this movie is going to be something else and I'm really looking forward to it. It looks I mean, just aside from like story and whatever comedic beats it looks good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it doesn't look bad at all. It doesn't look too too bad. Obviously, we'll see when the full movie comes out. They do some things with some cameras Marvel. Marvel remembered how to do cameras. Yeah, and I was surprised at that too. Tom Wabbs games from Six Sessions in here, which I'm excited for personally.
Speaker 2:Yep, he's a paradox.
Speaker 1:Paradox yep.
Speaker 2:Which was a role that was originally supposed to be Mobius.
Speaker 1:I see now I don't know what the whole, I don't know where this takes place, and I think that's a good thing. I good, I don't know some stuff, that's good. I don't know a lot that's going on in this movie. I think that's a very, very good thing. Keep it that way.
Speaker 2:Yep, because it's funny, because it felt like we got like a lot of leaks from that movie, but also they are like the same same spot over and over again.
Speaker 1:That's my fear for Daredevil. Born again it was.
Speaker 2:Ryan, me too. It was Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman's walking in a wasteland. It was like every set photo which I think is good, and Ryan Reynolds we talked about that when we talked about the leaks, where he kind of like jumped out in front of it and was like, hey, man, these things are going to happen, but I want to use, we want to be on location. So it is what it is.
Speaker 1:Yes, movie looks way more organic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's some other movies, and then quantum mania We'll get that We'll get to him and quantum mania in a little bit, but keeping the Marvel train rolling along. They were like you thought we were done this week with news.
Speaker 1:Who's Marvel's greatest couple?
Speaker 2:Prr Scarlett, which in the vision Nope Tony Sarkin himself.
Speaker 1:No, that's a good guess, but no.
Speaker 2:Captain America and America.
Speaker 1:Punching Hitler, punching Hitler. God, I love punching Hitler.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's fantastic for it. It's a thing it's happening. New logo alert.
Speaker 1:New logo alert. New logo alert. New casting alert it's confirmed. Official casting it's confirmed. Yeah, marvel was like here, it is here. It is here To price alone.
Speaker 2:It's not a surprise.
Speaker 1:No it's not.
Speaker 2:You've been following this or any other podcast for I don't know six months, when it was like this is the cast, this is the cast, this is the cast. But someone had it right at some point, because this is the cast and it was the cast that that was rumored a while, a bit, a bit back. It was the. This was the post. Adam Driver.
Speaker 1:Margot Robbie. Yes, this was the one right after, because I do think that they were all going to say yes, but something would. Something had to have happened, like you know what I think happened. I think they were all there because this was, this was courts quote unquote Senate McCast, which was Adam. It was who's Adam Driver?
Speaker 1:It was Margot Robbie, it was Paul Mezcal, who's only? He's the oldest looking 27 year old I've ever seen in my life. Remember when we were here and I was just like, how old is Paul Mezcal? He has to be in his 30s and he was 27. I'm like he's 27. So it was that cast and I would, and with that cast I always said that I do think if that was the cast, I do think that Killian Murphy would have said yes to playing Dr Doom. Obviously, we're going to talk about it a little bit, to jump the gun a bit, but Javier Bardin probably is going to play, going to play Galactus, but that all falls through and I do think a piece of that is. I do think because you know who I think the first person to leave was. It was probably Adam Driver, as soon as he probably saw where they were and he saw where the Star Wars franchise was. He's like I'm not doing this again. I'm not doing it again.
Speaker 2:You ruined my Adam Driver. As Mr Fantastic Daisy Ridley is Dr Doom casting that I wanted to do.
Speaker 1:John Boyega is Galactus. John Boyega is another one. He's never touching a. He'll never touch another of these properties, ever again.
Speaker 2:No, and then and then, yeah, like you said, following, following that and following that announcement, and then all of a sudden, a new announcement happened when they were like this is actually the cast, and this was right before the strikes hit, and they were like it's, it's locked in, it's Matt Smith, it's Vanessa Kirby, it's Evan Boss Backwreck and it's Joseph Quinn. And people were like, oh, that's interesting it is interesting.
Speaker 1:It was like a weird. It was like this like weird British cast plus Yvonne, yvonne, moss, bob Rock. So they were like it was just like the weird British cast plus cousin, but also Bussle Boo Joseph.
Speaker 2:Quinn, for some reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I do apologize, because am I also on that train? I just what has he done? What has he done? Bad Stranger Like he was great. He was great he was. He was one of the. He was one of the most electrifying things about season four.
Speaker 2:Like he died and people were like no, bring him back.
Speaker 1:Bring him back. Yeah, like he was, just like, let's do it. So he's one of the most hated people on the planet for nothing, for no reason. Didn't they do the? Didn't they do the Gladiator too? They did test screenings and they were like this movie is phenomenal. And guess who's in this movie is one of the stars of Joseph Quinn. Joseph Quinn is also going to be in somebody's movie next year too. He's he's got a and he's doing a quiet play like this. He's got some. He's fine, like he's a.
Speaker 2:And did you see him in that little concepts art mock-up that they? I was like? Not only did that, not look bad.
Speaker 1:It looked very sixties because this movie is going to take place in 1963, which, oh, I should. I mean, pedro Pascal is really really oh, we always forgot about the most important casting out of this whole thing. So here's, here's the thing, here's what I think happened. I think, and you know you, you litigated this.
Speaker 2:I have a theory, so yeah.
Speaker 1:We have. We have not trying to get sued, yeah, so what we think happened is we do think Matt Smith won. Matt Smith was Reed Richards. We do think that was the choice and good choice. I think that's a good. That's like. It looks accurate, it looks pretty.
Speaker 2:We love that yeah.
Speaker 1:And Matt Smith is a dear friend of the podcast. What I think happened is so what just came out? Secret invasion comes out, echo comes out, and it was great. What?
Speaker 2:Secret invasion.
Speaker 1:Nope. So what happened? What I think happened was Marvel was just like what I think happened. Uh, oh, like we. Whatever we do for this, it needs to be an absolute hit. And then Pedro Pascal is like I'm going to have some time in between filming the last of us and whatever other movies, and doing voice work for the Mandalorian.
Speaker 1:Exactly Like I'll have a little bit of time and and Kevin Fahey is like wait, he's one of the most famous actors on the planet. And then they all laughed at each other and we're looking in the student. They were like he couldn't play Reed Richards. Right, he wouldn't pick up the phone right now.
Speaker 2:I called him right.
Speaker 1:And then he did pick up the phone and he gave a sassy response, because he's a fun guy. He's a fun guy.
Speaker 2:And then they were like and then they said, get that man in a loose sweater, stack, yeah. And then they looked at him and they were like we couldn't do this right.
Speaker 1:They're like not bad, not bad, not bad. And then they did do it and there we go and I like I said, like we said it was, it's like sports drafting, like do you take the player that fits the team or do you take the best player available, and this is the perfect case that they took the best player available. They took the guy that was the most famous. That good or bad. It's like the whole thing about you know, good or bad press. It's press itself. Like they took the guy that was going to make the impact off the gate and I love Matt Smith, but that's Pedro Pascal. Like that's literally, like I said, one of the most famous actors on the planet and that leads to my theory.
Speaker 2:I think Matt Smith is going to be Dr Doom Yup I love that a lot.
Speaker 1:I think Matt Smith is I like. I like Matt Smith for, like the weirdness of him, so, and he can also be sixties weird. Yeah, that's my thing, dude. He did what was the last night in Soho? Obviously, he did, yes, and obviously um Dr who. Dr who is very sixties, 50s, 60s. It's time travel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, time travel.
Speaker 1:Timey wimey, shenanigans like Matt Smith. I just also I don't know something about Morbius, more Morbius, something about Matt Smith being this like angry, like just you know, he looks for treasonous, he looks, he looks treacherous, like that's. He's the perfect. I think he's a great choice to play, to play, you know, to play Dr Doom, somebody that you could probably also have for a while to, and he's one of those things where, once he gets cast to, if he gets cast, if this goes, you know, according to our plan or diabolical plan, like he also can be just the definitive person to be Dr Doom. At this point, like he is Dr Doom, like I hope he becomes synonymous with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think he absolutely can. I mean, if that's the route they go, who?
Speaker 1:knows who's to say. Anya Taylor-Joyce was also suspiciously attached to this movie, yeah, which I think they're going to switch who she plays, because I think I do think they were going to do the original plan. The original plan, and like the rumor that felt like it was going to drop any day, was that she was going to play Silver Surfer. I don't think that's going to happen anymore. I do think she is going to be the villain of this movie, though I did think they said like they want you know what? I think they wanted her and they saw the fan reception after that. They were like Javier, can you just play Galactus? There's like a 99% chance Javier Bardem's going to play Galactus from today is what we saw. Give him a big helmet, give him the big helmet.
Speaker 1:Give him the costume. Give him the costume, give him the big helmet. They won't do anything. A turtle is related, right? They wouldn't do that, no, would they not? I don't think so Anything Celestial related.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess it depends, like, is the whole thing going to take place in the 60s?
Speaker 1:Well, I think the whole movie. Well, I tweeted my theory a long time ago of how and I was right, I was right about that that this movie would take place in the 60s. So if I can never get back and find that tweet, then I want my flowers, because I said this movie is going to take place in the. Oh no, I was wrong. I said it was going to take place like they were in the Avengers era, but then Kang removed them, which I guess takes us to our last piece about this, because Kang Dynasty.
Speaker 2:No wait, we got one more thing.
Speaker 1:I'm going to talk about that now that herbies in this movie who the freaking robot? Oh, I think you said Hermes. Oh, no, no.
Speaker 2:Hermes.
Speaker 1:I remember Lin Manuel Miranda played Hermes and Percy Jackson. We didn't even talk about that show.
Speaker 2:That show was fun.
Speaker 1:That's reddick man, yeah, yeah, he was so good as Zeus. It's his voice. It's his voice that just boot. And the the arguments like he doesn't look like that, no, no, no, there's a reason why he's. Probably he's the king of the gods and so good. This man had a three piece suit on to to son his little brothers. It was great. You see the fear that they talked about when they were talking about him. So good, oh my God, that Percy Jackson universe has got some, some infinite potential to be truthfully incredible.
Speaker 1:It got it got renewed immediately after the last episode too. I tell that can tell you a lot. But are we done talking about the fantastic? For, yeah, it takes place in the 60s. Pedro Pascal is going to star in it. Vanessa Kirby is my favorite casting out of that whole thing. I think, yeah, I agree with that. I think she is going to be great as Sue Storm. Yeah, I and Galactus and Silver Surfer are going to be in this movie. Get Laquise Stanfield to play Silver Surfer. There's just something Stoic and about him and like Stoic and like again 60s weird I don't know any other way to explain it about Laquise Stanfield that I think would work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like mundane, like I can't explain it. I like that it's a period piece. I think that's really great.
Speaker 1:I think it's much needed to to get them away from everything else that's going on right now. I think it's like a definitive like this is something new. Like this is something obviously not timeline new, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's rad man. I think they should do more of that stuff. I mean, I think it's groovy. Inevitably they are going to end up in the present day blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But for hopefully, hopefully, that doesn't happen until like the end of the movie. You know what I mean? What if Johnny's a racist? Come on, man, Sorry, Don't put that on. Joseph Quinn X -Men.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, x-men 97 trailer dropped at the end of the week that all this other stuff happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was, it was crazy.
Speaker 2:And like here's another, here's one more thing. And man, that trailer was awesome.
Speaker 1:It's so good because it starts off. It's like this television set from the from the early 90s, and it's just. It's Professor X dying previously on X-Men previously on X-Men.
Speaker 2:Already goes previously on the series finale of X-Men, and then it's the end of Professor X. Well, he doesn't die, he goes away with the Shiar. They take him to heal him, but I guess that doesn't take. I don't know. They saw him.
Speaker 1:He's coming back to the wall. Oh, I have a theory on who he's. He might come back as somebody else. Oh, do you do you dare do Phantom X?
Speaker 2:Oh, I, maybe they did every other crazy storyline in that in that original run they did, and Phantom X wasn't a thing. So no, they did. What did they do in that original series? They did Age of Apocalypse. Yeah Well, that was the biggest swing that they took. They did Season One of Days of Future Past, they did Dark Phoenix, they did the Shiar. They did a bunch of stuff in that anime. I'm walking, I'm walking my way through it.
Speaker 1:I'll take notes, Take notes, Kevin. Like, do don't be afraid to do all the things.
Speaker 2:But I could do anything really, magneto is going to be in charge of the school for a bit.
Speaker 1:I'm making a charter school.
Speaker 2:I'm making a charter school. A lot of the returning cast is returning. Ray Chase is Cyclops and he sounds amazing. Cyclops is the main character. Peers to be yeah yeah, which you know should have always been that way.
Speaker 1:I hope the MCU adopts that a bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just looks. It looks great. It's not too heavy on the 3D animation stuff. It's, it's very feels modern. Feels it's modern but also, you know, obviously nostalgic as well, which I think is a great balance. And just some cool stuff happens Gambit supercharges Wolverine's claws, it's awesome. Just storms got the Mohawk, storms got the Mohawk. Now she's in a bit, she's having a midlife crisis. She's like I got a Mohawk now.
Speaker 1:Morph is back. Morph is back.
Speaker 2:Morph is back looking like freaky morph. Good and it's. I mean, it's always good to see Gambit, gambit, gambit, is Gambit? This is going to send derogatory again, but is Gambit? Does Gambit have Boba Fett syndrome?
Speaker 1:where people remember him better than he is. Yeah, Until. That's actually a point I quite enjoy. I mean, it makes a lot of sense. But I just think the gambit's cool, Like Boba Fett. Like what does Boba Fett have that? That like the Mandalorian didn't?
Speaker 2:revolutionize. I mean, the Mandalorian ruined it.
Speaker 1:But that's the only contest I'll make to that point. Is that, like I don't, Gambit's still cool.
Speaker 2:Like you, can't replace Gambit like anything else.
Speaker 1:I think the aura of Boba Fett is what held him up for so long. Like I don't think Gambit needs that. I think Gambit's cool on his own. Yeah, I think it's just because Gambit has been confined to this thing and like he also couldn't get off the ground in live action, like he couldn't get the proper. I didn't hate Taylor Kitch's take on it, me neither. Oh, that movie is an absolute disaster. I think that's more of the thing that's wrong.
Speaker 2:You know what the best thing about Taylor Kitch's Gambit is? Have you ever? I don't know if I'll show you them after that, but they did like these character teasers.
Speaker 1:Oh, I remember, I remember those vividly.
Speaker 2:I remember the Gambit one is really good.
Speaker 1:I remember that because they did one for Will I Am. They did one for the blob and I remember you would be on TV and like you would catch whichever one that you catch. Yeah, and I remember, I remember the Will I Am one. Specifically, I remember that Gambit one I would be like because, remember he put to stick through the wall and he's sliding down the wall and I'm like wait a second.
Speaker 2:Five always learned anything about life. It's this always play. The cards are done and it does like the Gambit like super cut and I'm like ooh, gambit sick.
Speaker 1:Remember when we thought everybody thought that movie was going to be really cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh man, and it was cool for, like the first bit, the first couple of minutes.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, when they're running through all the different decades and I'm like oh, they do the mission in Vietnam, right?
Speaker 2:It's like, and Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool.
Speaker 1:And you're like yeah, like wait a second. Maybe that'll pay off later, but probably not.
Speaker 2:OK, people are dead. You guys come out now. Oh man, but yeah, this, this looks really rad. That's also coming out March 14th, I believe. So Move over invincible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what a what a swing. See, Kevin Fahey did sit up in his chair. He's like y'all must have forgot.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm. And then, yeah, the last bit of news is just just came across the wire. Yesterday, today, like, yeah, I think yesterday, like yesterday, kang Dynasty is no more, the dynasty is over.
Speaker 1:The dynasty is over.
Speaker 2:The dynasty was over before it started. Yeah, avengers 5 is now just back to being Avengers 5. There, I don't even think we're at a point of recasting the character. I think that character's DLA.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe, maybe that's, maybe that's the best thing that you can do, maybe you pivot. Obviously, coleman Domingo is on, like the, and I think he said at the Baptist too that, like you know, I had been talking to Marvel for years about doing something with them and obviously Coleman Domingo he already was pretty famous, but now he's starting to really I mean, he's got an Oscar nominee Like he's starting to, really really starting to rise, like that could be an option. But at this point, maybe you do just completely pivot, maybe you do take the swing. It doesn't necessarily have to be doomed right now. I do think there is a. I think. I do think it's telling that we learned that doom is going to be in this movie and fantastic, for that is. We probably will do Secret Wars. I don't think that was ever a question on if Secret Wars was going to be the last movie. Yeah, so I have. I have an idea, I have an idea, there was an idea. I have an idea of what, which, which all can do, because I do think. Space it out, take your time, get the fantastic four in the X-Men set, and then you can do your thing. Here's what I think Avengers five should look like. So you, you're making such this point about the Thunderbolts, right, that they're so important to the point where they switch the relief states to they. They moved up the Thunderbolts as well. They got that Sony confidence. They got the Sony confidence. I do think that Thunderbolts movie is going to be. I'm nervous, I'm a bit nervous, so here's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:Why don't, in this world where we don't have any Avengers right now? Right, and one of the biggest complaints, I think Avengers five you try to do. Do the Dark Avengers for for Avengers five, you do like an amalgamation of Dark Rain and Dark Avengers, and you have them all. Like these, you know, publicly proclaimed. Like these are your new Avengers. Like this is who you have. Like you have Red Guardian. Like you, I'd probably bring Tim Roth back and make sure, just so you get like a more powerful kind of character there. Like Tim Roth is the abominable. Like these are your new Avengers. Like you have your Black Widow, you have your Captain America, you have your Hulk. Like here, like here, world, yeah. And then Sam, or you have Sam Wilson in the back room. Like absolutely no shot, absolutely not. And then obviously you're going to have Don't waste Harrison Ford either. He's not a young man anymore. Like, make sure you don't waste him. Have him be like he's the president in Captain America. For like that should be Avengers five. Like do it, do it, have them fight, have him, and then what that does is it helps.
Speaker 1:Anthony Mackie proclaim himself as like I am Captain America, I am the leader of the true Avengers. Now, like this is me. Like you get Leticia right. You get like, go, go get the Avengers now. Like you already have. You have Evangeline Lilly and Paula Rudd. Like start to form the Avengers back. Get it. Get it tried and true. Roster together. I think that's super. Like get it. We know who the roster was in 2012, 2015, 27 or 2018 and 20. Like we knew who the roster was. Like, go get the roster together of who the Avengers are. Make it definitive these are the Avengers now. So I think that that's a good move, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Don't waste the Thunderbolts. I told you the reason is don't you have Florence Pugh, sebastian Stan and David Harbour like waiting right there? Like have them go against each other in this movie? The end of the movie can end with you know Yelena's like I'm going to join the Avengers now. David Harbour is like nope, I absolutely not. Like Captain America stole my whole shine. I'm not going to let this happen again. Yeah, like you can have, but have have Harrison Ford be the villain of this whole thing. Like, have him be the guy that's like this is who, this is who the villain is. So that's that's my idea. Use the Thunderbolts to your leverage. Have that be Avengers 5. It simplifies things a little bit too, and it's not. It's not a villain of the weak ass mentality, but it's more of like a hey, like we just need to make sure there's an Avengers team right now, because something's coming, which is the collapse in the multiverse. So we're going to need we're going to need a team ready to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, that makes sense to me. I mean, I mean it apparently based on this. What the story was is they were already kind of out on Kang After Quantum Media which I don't believe.
Speaker 1:I actually don't believe that one bit, and I think it's because of who Jonathan Majors was. I know I, in my opinion, no shot that they were going to dump Jonathan Majors before, before anything. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And also I mean all the stuff, all the other stuff that happened, happened, but that would have been at the time what would have been really unfair to him, because I think we both agree he's easily the best part of that movie.
Speaker 1:I don't even think it's a question, like there's no question.
Speaker 2:So I don't think that movie failed because of Kang the Conqueror. That movie failed because it's not great.
Speaker 1:Not good, exactly.
Speaker 2:So that would have been a little. I think that's just them being like, no, this was always going to happen?
Speaker 1:No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2:No, I agree, I don't think that was necessary with the case.
Speaker 1:Go look into the past. You have options to choose from from this movie. I just think the whole, the whole theme of what I'm saying is like, get back to the simplities of things. Just make an Avengers movie that is an Avengers movie. Obviously, this movie can have implications on what the future is, what Secret Wars is. Just define some lines of what storytelling is, find some characters.
Speaker 1:Go tell Anthony Mackie here If we fail, we fail. If we succeed, we succeed. You're the main character of this, you're going to get, you know, do you do? I mean, do you tell Chris Hemsworth, like, if you're down and you're back, like you know Thor is, you know he's a God You're going to live for for thousands of years? Like, hey, you too, like you're back as one of the main characters of this. Just find a couple of them and say, hey, these are the Avengers. Now that's it. I just I also wished it in not waste, but like the whole scroll thing, because you also could have done a Korea Scroll War Avengers movie too. That would have been kind of interesting One million scrolls 999,000 scrolls 199,999 scrolls, one less because Ben Mendelssohn died.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know it. All this stuff that's happened in the last three, five years for Marvel really goes to show you how remarkable the first 10 years were, that they went off pretty much without a hitch.
Speaker 1:It's, it's Karen Tower, to God it doesn't even make sense because, like Tane Tower King.
Speaker 2:Next time baby.
Speaker 1:I'll be back. My God come on, man, I need to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, it's really remarkable that they were able to do what they did, because everything, everything that can go wrong has gone wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, it's. I just never thought this was a possibility, that we're living in this where, like, the Renaissance is over. But, as they said, deadpool is coming out and it looks great and also the whole thing about, like you know people, echo came out and people are like Marvel's cooked. And then Deadpool, Loki comes out and people like Marvel's back, and then you know what, the Marvel's comes out and people are like Marvel's dead, and then this comes like I think they have a lot of really cool stuff coming.
Speaker 2:I think that pull three is going to be really good. I think I double born again is going to be really good. Now, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:And just, can you get the through line through? That's the question. Can you get the through line of what the point is through?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and now you know, maybe you have, maybe here you have an opportunity to softly reboot that Maybe, maybe you can softly pivot away from Kang the Concrete.
Speaker 1:Maybe, yeah, maybe. It's got to be like a full 180 turn of you know he's, he is gone, he like he did, defeat him and he's gone forever.
Speaker 2:The TVA snuffed out all the Kang variants. Yep, you know, maybe you can do that, you know, yeah, I think I don't. I don't think this is. I think this is actually a better option than trying to power forward with Kang Dynasty and trying to just not even. It's not even the recasting the character, so much. Just the character. Just the character was well performed, but outside of that, has the character worked?
Speaker 1:Not really Not really. I mean it's funny. The character worked better without the name of Kang on him the whole time and every time we've seen him, the best he's been has been outside of that.
Speaker 2:He has been, he who remains are Victor.
Speaker 1:Timely and both great stuff that came out of Loki season two Like that's where we're at. That's where we're at, so maybe it is the time of like that. It Kang was a one and done, unfortunately, because that's a huge Avengers villain. But hey, sometimes everything doesn't go according to plan. You got to pivot a bit.
Speaker 2:Just real quick. Michael Jekino might be directing Midnight Zuns.
Speaker 1:There's a chance that that Midnight Zuns movie could be one of the coolest movies that they pull out of the MCU. So who's going to be in this movie? Obviously, you're, you're, it's going to be Oscar Isaac, and Marshall Lee are going to say yes, I don't think that's an Oscar Isaac just said like I'm, I'm ready, like as soon as I'm ready, like I'm as soon as, as soon as the talks are going to start, talking like you probably get the werewolf by night, I think that's like, that's like definitive you get bloodstone you get man thing, you get the werewolf by night, that's.
Speaker 2:I don't think that was ever in question. So then that's five. You do. Do you do Ghost Rider?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do. You get Gosling, because that's one of the rumors that was voted for a while. You get Gosling. He plays Ghost Rider, that would be cool. Or Keanu Reeves or Norman Reedus. Norman Reedus is like a that's. That's a really great choice. Yeah, you throw Ghost Rider in there. Who else do you got? Or are you going to say the thing that you want to say? It on three? What Diggle Luna?
Speaker 2:or Gabriel Luna, as one of the lunas.
Speaker 1:Oh, which Luna is it?
Speaker 2:Gabriel Luna played him in Agents of Shield.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not bad, oh he was so good.
Speaker 2:Remember what ages of shield was just like we're doing the right.
Speaker 1:It's not even that. For ages of shield, it's just ages of shield. Forgot about the MCU and was just like what if we just made a good television and they just didn't stop for like three seasons straight?
Speaker 2:I love that it's just like here's. Here's this new season and Ghost writers here. You're like huh, what do you mean? You can't just do ghosts right? And then they did it. I think it was awesome, it was so good, but yeah, what was the thing you were gonna say? Because it wasn't the thing I was thinking, clearly you don't.
Speaker 1:You don't put Elizabeth Olsen in this movie, right, but the person I did say, and if you want to get somebody that's already established and Somebody that's also in a bit of a limbo state because I think he was encompassed in of all the Kang stuff Do you do you put Benedict Cumberbatch in this movie and have him be the leader of the Midnight Suns? Hmm, and that because he is very outside of the Avengers, if you think about it. Like he's the one that's like not necessarily an Avenger, like this is his event, like cuz his comparison avengers, right, he's like. He's like weird Tony Stark. So like, do you make Tony Stark? Like, do you make him like the Tony Stark of the like, yeah, like that would be an interesting concept. Like he pulls all these, especially after that bout with car, with Scarlet Witch. He's like y'all we need, I need some, I need some heroes, I need freaks and weirdos.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I need, I don't need. I knew I don't need heroes I need. What do you do? Turn into a werewolf? Yeah, you're in. Where do you? A vampire? That's also a man.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, you're in. What is that? Some type of Swat monster? Yeah, you're a disintegrate people. You're in.
Speaker 1:Yep, what else we got? You're the bloodstones from the Elsa, bloodstones You're in. You got a red coat.
Speaker 2:You're in. You're in, yes, oh, this guy sold the soul to the debt, to the devil, and he drives a bike that's on fire. You're in? Give me, get me all the freaks and weirdos.
Speaker 1:See if they really wanted to take a swing you and capitalize on what you have. You delete the Agatha, come into chaos and you Just, spider-man, get bed. Yeah, get back. You're not in this.
Speaker 2:You're not weird in bed, riley, maybe.
Speaker 1:Kind of weird. He's kind of weird. I Think there is a world where you say you know, you tell what's your name Catherine hon, catherine hon. You're not getting the show, but you get to be the villain of this thing. That would be fun. You make Catherine hon and then you know we end the dark. Hold stuff too, like the whole don't open. It don't open it, and then she opened it again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I told I, we said, I mean we said this with when multi-verse abandonist came out, like you put her in this Spot where, like, her return is gonna be a big deal, oh, and so you gotta do how to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the spooky, weird realm like yeah maybe visions in this, I don't know. He's not spooky enough, but like white visions, weird he's weird. You said weird and spooky, that's fair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean we'll see. I'm excited. I mean we said when we're all by night.
Speaker 1:Oh, um, we forgot about Dane Whitman too. He's, I think. I think he's. That's spooky enough. Yeah, you don't put blade in the post-credits scene and he's not in the movie. Put his voice, it's him. The director said it. Chloe Jow said it's him, it's him, so I don't think he's spooky enough yet.
Speaker 2:He's got to earn his spookiness first.
Speaker 1:Well, he's in there, so.
Speaker 2:I know he's got a. I know he's got a curse sword, but he's in there. Let the curse sword do some curse.
Speaker 1:Harrington's in the MCU and he just hasn't been. So this is the issue with four and five, and maybe six, we don't know yet get him, make him spooky first and then then we'll consider it. Well, he has the curse sword, that well he's got a, he's got to use it.
Speaker 1:What's your name's probably also gonna be in there too, once they get her back from space. If they ever want to do a turnals too, which please do. They got to get Cersei back from space, and then she can probably also be in this. Yeah, yeah, this is like all corners of the MCU, with the weirdest people from all the corners of the MCU get together. Okay, put Barry Keegan back. Keegan back in this drew.
Speaker 2:It was kind of spooky and weird. That's his ammo. That's Barry Keegan. Maybe it's him he's not even the character. They're like ah drew ex in this and I'm like, no, he's like, actually I'm actor Barry Keegan.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's just Barry Keegan, yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, and that's a, that's a wrap.
Speaker 1:That is a wrap. That was a fun discussion about Midnight Suns actually. Yeah, yeah, look a Michael Jekinos, look where we find out, you get a two for one too, cuz he's gonna do the score and he's gonna direct the movie where I'll find out. It was he. Yeah, it was he. They were cooking in that movie.
Speaker 2:I need more of that. Whoa, yeah, more, more of that. Where's that stuff been? Where's the Marvel? The Marvel one up, one off, spin where those been? Well, we got a one-shot show why we not doing, why we not doing more of those.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I do that they did.
Speaker 1:We're both really good. I get the cover in a chaos. Also should have been a one-shot Echo. You probably could have done a one-shot for Echo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're like a part one, part two.
Speaker 1:Sure yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right. So I think that's it, that's really it. But before we go, so we yesterday, the other day, yesterday, yesterday. So Final Fantasy 7 rebirth is around the corner, the reviews have come out today and it's receiving critical, critical claim, sitting on a. So the rotten tomatoes equivalent to the gaming world, is Metacritic. And you get into the 90s a Metacritic. And you got yourself a. You got yourself a generational game here and fun, fancy 7 rebirth has launched to a 93. I think it's still sitting at a Metacritic, which is insane. It's higher than a lot of people would have even expected, including myself. Thought of final fantasy rarely breaks the 90s. This is the highest rated Final Fantasy title since Final Fantasy 9, which came out in nope 2003, 2002, 2003, which is crazy. So you're talking like 20 years. And so leading up to Final Fantasy 7 rebirth, the squaring team has spent no expense. So they were like why don't we put our 2005 Cinema CGI movie advent children back in theaters? We want to see it.
Speaker 2:You, me, a final fantasy 7 lifer that's been around this story, these characters, since 1997, and you who I wasn't even around in 1997 who was not around in 1997 at all as a person and who, who was Up until yesterday Not even not even Engraged it into any of these characters were. And then you got out of the car Last night.
Speaker 1:I knew everything so I had watched a couple of videos to get the one more and I got it. So our final fantasy fans are gonna understand. Immediately I Said what's his name? Hojo, yeah, I go. The whole thing wouldn't have happened if Vincent had just killed Hojo and you're like, excuse me, I was like whoa, I'm in now. Yeah, sephiroth's mom is a. Does a murderous Alien in her inter spatial alien? Yes, space, that's a psycho. Yep, space horse or is. Does she get a bad rap because she doesn't really do much? She just sits in that chamber for like Thousands of years and everybody just bad rap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody just says she's the worst. I had nothing has proven that she's the worst so far. She's not great, she's nice, she isn't great. Um, but who's worse? Hojo, he's the worst.
Speaker 2:The actual worst human. So we saw Edmund Schilder yesterday.
Speaker 1:What gas what did you think? And gas?
Speaker 2:you tell me what you thought of it cooking gas incredible, inspired, hilarious yeah, it's. Look man, it's early 2000s Japanese CGI anime nonsense it is absurdedly, just a thrill ride.
Speaker 1:That's the best way to explain it, man, the fight sequences are something they're unbelievable.
Speaker 2:They're still unbelievable. I mean, this was. This was upscaled to 4k from the 2005 version, but yeah it's. It's the first time I'd ever seen it in theaters, because didn't Come to theaters the first time, which is kind of crazy. And look man people were there.
Speaker 1:Oh, there was some people in that theater. We I walked and I was like, oh, we've seen actual movies with fewer people in the theater before. We saw the marvels and there was less people in the theater. Yeah, probably Like there was people close. Yeah there was people in there for a movie that came out 19 years ago and it's very niche. Yeah, it is extremely niche. This isn't, like you said, like this Japanese video game adaptation, sequel, sequel 3d film, and people were. There was butts in seats. Yeah and they were locked in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's, you know it's a great, it's a great, uh, it's a great. It's a great gateway drug into the world of Final Fantasy. Yeah, and I got it.
Speaker 1:I took that drug multiple times yesterday.
Speaker 2:Advent children is that I truly believe Final Fantasy 7 remake is a great gateway drug into this, into this world. Um yeah, I'm just curious to hear what your thoughts were on this.
Speaker 1:It was it was amazing, it was someone who just who?
Speaker 2:shotgunned all the lore before Before hand it?
Speaker 1:was like so I was on the drive there and I was just like video after video of trying to understand everything and I was just like I got out of the car and I was just like I am Final Fantasy now, like I understand everything, like erith just being curie from avatar 2 I don't think she's dead like I was giving you theories on what I think was gonna happen. You're like wait, wait, a second.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's all the way in, he's, he's been, he's been red-pilled at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unfortunately I was gonna. I was gonna play the at some point we are gonna talk. I promise we'll talk about the last of us. Part two remaster. Oh yeah. But there there is a slight chance that I play Final Fantasy. Maybe I'll play him at the same time. So I give both some love. Whoo um.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man rebirth is shaping up to be Shaping up to be what I, what I thought thought it was gonna be. When I first saw the first trailer, I was like this If they're, they're gonna deliver on all this stuff that they're promising, like it's gonna be Open world and you're gonna have all this stuff to do and the combat and all that stuff and the characters, the music and story is all what it has been for 30 years. Then, yeah, this can win game of the year, without any irony or hyperbole. I truly think it can.
Speaker 2:Um, everything that I've seen of it, people are already saying the performances are incredible, which is Honestly a testament to it. To it, because typically with these Japanese RPGs, people are like the dubs are whack, you know, but, um, unless they're like, no, everyone does a really great job. Um, shout out to that whole cast. Um, I told you that Tyler hecklin is dog, so weirdly detached from this, from this franchise, because I, he's done no press, no, nothing. He never shows up at any events, mm-hmm, he just gets he's too busy playing Superman.
Speaker 2:He just gets in there and he's like, give me my lines and he's cooks Incredible. And I mean, look, shout out the weird Superman legacy casting that Sephiroth has found his way into. George Newbert, who portrays him in advent children, obviously was the the 90s voice of animated Superman. Like the defend, he was the definitive Superman for a lot of people for many years, much in the same vein that Kevin Conroy was the definitive Batman, like George Newburn was and his Sephiroth, I would argue was iconic. I think Tyler hecklin Does outstanding.
Speaker 1:Well, same way I feel about Cody Christianson.
Speaker 2:Just from Cody Christian is Amazing, he gets it. Mm-hmm, he get. And I can say that about the whole cast. The whole cast you can just tell Understand, understand the assignment, understands the characters. Um, cody Christian Just decided, I'm just gonna get on Twitter and just be amazing for like three weeks before the escape came out, and he's like here's why clouds is awesome. And he gets it, man, he gets it.
Speaker 1:It's like attachment to character that I love, especially from the video game realm. You know who has that camera monohed? It has that for calcasses, like there's just like there's a Attachment to the actual character which makes it super great. So I'm super excited. Obviously, now I'm gonna play the remake. I actually I I'm on the bombing mission. It's great. Like I picked it up, I was like I was like literally five minutes into the bombing mission because I I guess I lost my save because I was Chasing cats the last time I was playing that game. But I was like, let me just restart. And then I turned it on and it's just the music starts and I'm like, is this? Why didn't I never know about this? Why did I never give myself to this universe before? It's? The lore is is just absurd.
Speaker 2:Oh it's, yeah, the lore is insane and Stuff that happens on the ground level. You know there's some advanced stuff that goes on like, especially when you dive, it's like the whole, it's the game. The story is incredible. It's, it's, it's, it's a tale of, of unreliability. In a lot of ways it's a tale of of you know, not to sound like too like melodramatic about it, it truly is a tale of battling mental health. I was gonna say the same thing. It really is man Um that group that?
Speaker 1:crew is at the new age of gaming Trauma, but final fantasy Revolutionized it first technically, because this happened before the last of us, before the new age.
Speaker 2:God of war, that whole that whole group that you learn like the party that that gets together in this game, are all bonded by some type of traumatic experience.
Speaker 1:That's and that's incredible. It has to kill his partner before I told you I'm in on the lore.
Speaker 2:This guy gets it. Yeah, um, there's that whole Stuff with Matt, with correll and bear and why he feels responsible for, like, he feels responsible for the rise of shinra and, yeah, the way is like, is he, he drank the kool-aid and he believed me about that? He's subscribed to the use of mako energy. Then he feels responsible. You know, he feels like he abandoned his best friend. And then he reconciles with that and they confront each other. Sid said hi, would you know, only had one dream of going to space and shinra took it away from him and it turned him into like a Out raging alcoholic.
Speaker 2:He's like, worst-case scenario, han Solo at that point yeah yeah, I mean, uh, vincent, Um, I mean yufi, who appears to be this lighthearted character like had her culture stripped away from her.
Speaker 1:You want to talk just about the mass murder of the plate falling on like and you know a definition of this is what the ritual Do to the poor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even the time and opportunity to literally yeah.
Speaker 1:They dropped the sector seven plate On thousands of people and it just happens and people are like okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, life, life truly goes on Um. And then of course I mean cloud and tifa, the crux of their collective trauma, nibelheim and losing their hometown, their family, their friends. Clouds, loss of identity, loss of self. You know, man, even a character that's not human in red 13, has this trauma with feeling like his father abandoned him and abandoned his people or Creatures, species.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Um, you know, but reconciling that you know he returns home and they his, his grandfather shows him like no, your father actually protected the entire population by sacrificing himself. So, like that whole, even a crazy character, like cat, like ksith is Is this mog puppet, who you actually discover? His reef to sd, who worked for shinra? Who worked? He was the urban planner, uh, airing planning, uh, manager, when the plate fell and he felt responsible for that, so he decided to kind of go about it his own way, like it's. That whole story is a really good found family story at the court too. Yeah, it's a found family story, exactly, and it's littered with tragedy. Um, and Overcoming. I mean literally the last battle of the original final fantasy 7 is cloud Not facing actual sephiroth, but diving into his own mindscape and battling sephiroth in his mind, his head, to exercise that demon forever until he doesn't, which is where you get having children where sephiroth returns because he they're for a splash.
Speaker 1:But we made the revelation that this is just a flash tv show I will never be in memory. We said why, why and why did you do all this? Because I hate you.
Speaker 2:Tell me what you cherish most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away dog. Uh, and then you know, I didn't even dive into the whole zack stuff. I was gonna say, yeah, we didn't even talk about zack. Zack's another great character.
Speaker 1:Um well, I it's probably gonna get a lot of shine in this game too, which is much deserving yeah which not even deserving. I just, I just think that. Look at me being a final fantasy.
Speaker 2:Look at him go Lord guy look at him go.
Speaker 1:I just feel like whatever this third game gets to is gonna have one of the like biggest Reveals in gaming history, like it's gonna be like this, just absolutely like, just like the sky is falling reveal. That's gonna happen in this third game Because something's up, and you talked about how they're gonna deal with the timelines in this game and you know these convergent not these convergent timelines but, like you know, something's happening, something, something's up.
Speaker 2:Something weird is going on and you experience that at the end of the first game at the end of final fantasy 7 remake when you know you defeat Sephiroth, quote, unquote um, they returned to zack's last stand and you think, why is that? You think you know how it's gonna go. He does the whole bit. Embrace your dreams and, whatever happens, protect your honor soldier. He charges in and then they cut away from it, and then they cut back to it and zack's standing there and he goes wait, was that all of them?
Speaker 2:And you're like what do you mean by that? And you're like and that's where you know, and it's truly amazing that they were able to pull that off to the point. Because you think remake, right, you think remake and you're like Like I had that, I had that, I had that game of thrones, I read the books, you idiots. I know where this is going. And then the end of remake happens and you're like I'm on equal footing with literally everybody else now because I have no clue what's gonna happen. And I think To return to a project 30 years after the fact and me go, I don't know what's going to happen, is awesome to me.
Speaker 1:Keeps the intrigue.
Speaker 2:Man keeps the intrigue because I've said this to people before you could have given me a one-to-one remake, made it pretty Expanded on some things, gave me the voice acting, and I would have really liked it. But I wouldn't have been talking about it for the last four years in the way that I've been talking about remake, just the, theorizing, the, you know, replaying the game again, finding different things, different musical cues. Um, there's a specific scene in remake, in chapter two I believe, where after cloud confronts sephiroth the first time, he's wandering through like the alleyways of midgar and the. It's the theme from advent children when they're in the forgotten city, like that humming kind of music, and I'm like Wait, they're putting advent children music in this game.
Speaker 1:Now you said that last night. I was just like this is making somebody that's a huge final fantasy. So I'm like I'm myself. I understood that reference, um.
Speaker 2:To the point where, like the final boss fight in FF7 remake, against the whispers, who are like the living manifestations of destiny, there's three distinct whispers and you're like wait, this is Kaddaj's laws in Yazu, from Advent Children appearing in this time, and you're like there's something going on here and we'll see what happens in a week from now.
Speaker 1:I'm super excited to play. Like I actually might have to put the last of us on the back burner just so I can stay up to date, because, if everything goes according to my plan, I might just launch right into rebirth and then be a bigger Final Fantasy fan than you are.
Speaker 2:He's gonna overtake me. It's gonna happen, so I'm super excited for that. I'm glad you enjoyed Advent Children.
Speaker 1:I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you've ingratiated yourself into the, into the lore, and that's why I'm glad we live, ultimately, in the age of that we live in is you can literally jump into a couple YouTube videos and you're like I'm up to speed, whereas, like that wasn't an option. You know, 10, 15 years ago you would have had to have gone back and played the original game. You would have played this one and this one and, like, the internet wasn't as like easy to navigate, but now it's like the snap of a finger, like I'm into this and I think that's awesome, like that's, I will never, I will never be a supporter of gatekeeper culture, of, like you know, I've been a fan of this thing for 40 years and you know you can't Simpsons killed us because everybody thought that's how comics were.
Speaker 1:I remember when I I had stopped reading comics and I got back in the comics, I went to the comic book shop and I was just like this isn't like this. Like the guy there is, like one of my favorite people on planet Earth, like he's like, and I remember like one time I was staying there and there was a person in front of me and me and him just started talking about comics and he had been a comic fan for years upon years. We just talked about stuff like that's the beauty in like you know, going even further, like the let's just talk about the MCU as a whole. To like the ascent. Like.
Speaker 1:I remember people were coming to me to ask questions about things and that made me feel good about like now it's like you can't be bullied. Like now I need help to understand this thing. Like that's the beauty of all this stuff too. So, before you go to like I don't want people to know about the thing Like you're negating somebody from getting that feeling that you want that you had. Like why can't everybody else want? Don't you want that? Don't you want people to like the thing that you like?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the bigger the umbrella the better. I think that's the beauty of it is. You know, you can all of a sudden decide like I'm going to decide to get into this thing and that's awesome because you know that, just you know that opens up another avenue for interpretation. Ultimately, I've had, I've seen, I've seen, you know, there have been people like myself who have seen the whole story from front to back and experience remake. I've seen people start at remake and go back.
Speaker 2:I've seen people who experience remake and they're like I'm just going to jump into rebirth and I think that's awesome, like I truly do, like I think like no one's, no one's path to liking a particular thing is more or less valid. And yeah, that's that's ultimately where I come at it, as I think the more people that can enjoy a thing that just speaks to how good the thing is, that it's that accessible, that anyone can can dive in at any point in time and be like I'm into this and I understand it. Now, right, and that's because you know, you and I are both big proponents, that you know story characters, you know all that stuff. If that delivers, then anything it can be for anybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, q the Q Robin Williams, not a log from dead poet. Society Like this is, this is what we live for. Like this is the thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So we'll see what happens in a week, man. We'll see what happens, maybe more than a week, because, based on based on all the reviews, man, I'm going to need some time with this one that is going to do it for us this week. You can follow us on Twitter at project INF underscore pod. You can follow us on Facebook. You can follow us on Instagram at the project infinite pod.
Speaker 1:And next week dude man, I cannot wait. How you feel about Final Fantasy rebirth is how I felt about doing.
Speaker 2:It's cool that we're getting these things in the same week. Yeah, like it's just.
Speaker 1:There's some type of poetry there that I think it's a beautiful dichotomy of like the one thing that I've been waiting for for the longest time, the one thing you've been waiting for the longest time coming. We're seeing them within four days of each.
Speaker 2:It is kind of crazy how that worked out.
Speaker 1:The personalities that we've adopted are coming out on the same day.
Speaker 2:We've seen Dune on Sunday and I'll be playing rebirth on Thursday is kind of funny. I can't wait.
Speaker 1:I'll see you on Arrakis, my boy. I really can't, I got to rewatch the movie again tonight. I got to rewatch it.
Speaker 2:I'll rewatch it Saturday, most likely because I have not, not because I didn't want to, but I have not seen it since. We saw it, oh wow.
Speaker 1:I've borderline, like you know, I've made, I've tried to make a lot of leaps and bounds in my own, you know, film endeavors. So I've, I've like studied that movie. Sure, I've like watched all the behind the scenes for that. I actually, you know, just because YouTube kept going at the behind the scenes, for the first one was just running on my computer while we were just talking just then. So there's movie, like I know, from the back of my hand. But I just, man, I love the cinema, I love the idea of it, I get it. Man, what have you been doing? I guess we'll bring that back, because I haven't, we haven't seen each other. I've been watching X-Men. I also funny enough that had watched it. I don't know why I watched X-Men first class, but go ahead.
Speaker 2:I've been watching. I've been watching X-Men, I've been watching X-Men the animated series. It's still. It still holds up. I think it's so really good. Obviously it has that Saturday morning cartoon feel to it, which is great. I don't think there's anything wrong with that it does. I think it is a little higher than you know, your average, especially once you know I'm pretty early on.
Speaker 2:But once the storylines really start rolling and going back to it as an adult and being more you know, having well being armed with more comic knowledge of like, oh, shoot, they're doing this thing from. Like they're doing days of future past. They're doing age of apocalypse where, like when I was a kid, like I didn't know what any of that was. Like they're doing the Phoenix saga. Like they're introducing the Shiar. Like I'm like man, they really yanked a lot of stuff and put it into that show. Um, so I've been, I've been enjoying that, um, as we get ready for X-Men 97,. I've been, I've been playing Final Fantasy 7 remake again, um, getting ready for rebirth. And, much like you, how you feel about Dune is how I feel about Final Fantasy 7 remake. As soon as that opening title credit hits, friggin you get. You get to the bit, the train bit. You're on the train, clouds on the train, he jumps off, the music starts and you're in Mako Reactor one and I'm like this is the greatest game I've ever made. It just is.
Speaker 1:Energy, man, energy. So, yeah, that's what I've been doing. Um, obviously I'm the, I'm the movie guy here, I'm the resident movie guy. Apparently that's what they tell, that's what the producers told me before I sat in this chair, um, so I've been running through um, now I'm in my, now I'm in my, my, my. The Oscars are in a couple of weeks. I got to get ready, so I'm going to check everything out.
Speaker 1:So, um, I have seen American fiction, um from Jeffrey Wright and Cord Jefferson and, much to my knowledge, I I forgot or didn't even know you know why Cord Jefferson is famous? Because he he helped write the Watchman show. He helped write the good place. Like, as soon as I I heard the Watchman, I knew everything I needed to know about Cord Jefferson. He was a. I listened to a podcast, he was on um, where he talked about, you know, his career and everything that had happened. Um, and he was a journalist, um in LA for a while, and how much of that character represented himself, um, through Jeffrey Wright's character of of Monk.
Speaker 1:Um, just I, I do think that movie will win the writing awards this year, like any it's. It's going to be between that and past lives, when the like, the, you know the philosophical and ideology, the ideologies of the makeup of what writing is like. American fiction understands that. I mean, this movie is about a writer, but it's, it's much deeper than that. Um, you know, your, your socio political themes and I feel like that's too big of a way to even say social political themes, but, like, this movie is so, you know, self-referential, Um, but it's so understanding, um, I, you know it's funny. My favorite part about this movie is that it doesn't necessarily live in that realm, because there's a lot of, you know, obviously, this movie has a lot to do with race and you know the perception of black people in America. But my favorite part is how tender this movie is to couple with it and that's the important piece between the two. Because, you know, there's a, there's a bit in the movie where they talk about, you know, you know telling black stories and it's slavery, it's the sixties, it's the civil rights movement. But then also, coupled with that, I mean spoilers for this movie.
Speaker 1:But um, tracy Ellis Ross is in this movie as a Jeffrey Wright sister and she dies early on in the movie and like, I feel like when we think about those, she dies of a heart attack and they're well off, rich black family that lives. And like. I feel like when we think about that, we don't think about like. And he writes about this because, um, he's a raisin, this movie, and she's this prominent writer who has this best seller that just comes out. But it's about, you know, he says like, the potential of what black people can be, but how we're perceived is very much like. You know, I don't want to say it, but you know what I'm trying to get at like, you know in that way. But like, he's a very proper man. His family's rich, like he's had, like, his family's well off. I should say like and like and he writes about this stuff. And like he goes to. He goes to a bookstore and he sees his. His books are in the black voices section. He's like. The only thing black about my books is I'm the one that wrote them. There's nothing that you know is discernible about this thing.
Speaker 1:But cord Jefferson that's his directorial debut. Um, he's got a future ahead of him. Times of infinity, like, if you want to talk about being the first time you direct something. It's funny. It's funny having Celine song first time directors and what they were able to produce off the first time is, truthfully, incredible. I mean, they have two of the best movies of this year. I still think Celine song has the second best movie of this year. So definitely was a was a welcome surprise and a welcome treat. Um, yeah, I can't. You know the Oscar season.
Speaker 1:So many said, and I agree, 2023 was an incredible year for the movies itself. Obviously, you had the pinnacle that came of the summer and we had been talking about it just as a whole, not just these art movies, just a whole landscape of movies for that year. It was like that. 2023 was a was a very special year from the gate. It was like January to December to had something, a whole year. Um, so, yeah, I'm going to keep going forward. I'm going to watch a dune again. I've been, you know, kicking through the dune books. I have the dune graphic novels from Brian Herbert, frank Herbert son that he collaborated on. I've done exposures with Greg Frazier's photography and Josh Brolin. So I've just been really ingratiated in the dune world getting ready for this. Um, but hey, man, I love the movies, I love the cinema. It's incredible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I can't, can't wait, can't wait. Next week's going to be, next week's going to be one for the one for the books.
Speaker 1:This is our barrenheimer.
Speaker 2:It really is In a sense. Um, yeah, man, I can't wait. So, uh, that'll do it for us this week, from me, from the from the cloud strife for the podcast. Can.
Speaker 1:I can, I can, I can. I deny that claim and give it back to you. You are the cloud strife of this podcast. I don't know about all that man. No, you're the Zach. I am the cloud strife, yeah.
Speaker 2:Easy.
Speaker 1:He's washed and he was 23.
Speaker 2:That's what I told you before we walked in. Yeah, I said I want you to know that this game takes place. This movie takes place two years after the original game. The original game cloud is 21 years old and by the time I've had children comes around, he is, he is. I said remember, remember Indiana Jones and the last Indiana. Jones oh yeah, that's where cloud is, and he's 23. He's a grizzled vet and he's 23. He is, he's over it. He's over it, man.
Speaker 1:That's like dark night, like the dark night ride. But Bruce is like. Bruce is like year two he's like I've already seen everything I need to see.
Speaker 2:It's like if you get to the Batman part two and Robert Pattinson's like I'm done, yeah, I'm done, I'm done with this.
Speaker 1:I've done everything I've needed to do?
Speaker 2:I've seen too many things. All right, we will. We'll see you next week for Dune man. That that aura.
Speaker 1:You can feel it right.
Speaker 2:Like something there's like it's like the first time. It's like the first time we did Dune. I was just like, oh, we were talking about it for so long and they were like next week it's finally here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's finally here next week, dune part two. Until then, goodbye Peace.