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122 - Can Non-Franchise Films Survive? Review of 'The Fall Guy'
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It’s a good old-fashioned movie review this week! We take the week off from reviewing comic books, video games, Marvel movies for a just typical, everyday action movie about a stunt man. This week, we review “The Fall Guy,” starring Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt. We had…a really good time with it! We dive into this fun yet overlooked film and discuss the hurdles non-franchise movies face, especially with their rapid shift to streaming platforms. Reflecting on the current state of cinema, we ponder whether there's still room for these hidden gems to shine on the big screen. So, take a listen as we review this love letter to stunt people and the stunts they give us on screen. We also talk Venom 3, The Last of Us and all the latest MCU news. Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
02:23 Venom 3 Trailer!
11:40 The Last of Us Season 2 Episodes and Jefferey Wright Returns!
22:55 Giancarlo Esposito Will be in Captain America 4 As…
27:26 Avengers 5 News, Notes and Rumors
32:35 “The Fall Guy” Review & Discussion! *SPOILERS*
01:04:30 Giving Awards For our Favorite Moments, Characters & Performances
01:20:00 Signing off & We Discuss The Project Infinite Movie Heirarchy
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Speaker 2:Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Project Infinite podcast, the podcast covering the infinite and ever-expanding multiverse of fandom, from movies, comics, tv shows, video games. We got you covered. I'm Rob. I'm here, as always, with Court Court. This week we're going to do a world-famous movie review of a movie that we both saw last week, this week, last week I don't remember when it was, but it's not a fandom movie, it not a not a nerd movie, it's just a regular old it's not a nerd movie to you.
Speaker 1:It's a nerd movie to me, it's just fair.
Speaker 2:It's just a regular old movie that comes out in the cinemas you know, those movies that don't do well, unfortunately and then they're on streaming after like a couple weeks. Um, we're talking, of course, about the fall guy, um, starring ryan gosling and emily blunt. We both saw it, uh, together, and we're gonna talk about it. That's gonna be our, our main topic this week, and what we thought about it and you know I guess we can also kind of bring up the larger conversation that I kind of joked about of, like you know is there are we running out of space for like movies like this, like in cinema, um, because it it feels like it in a weird way? Um, especially, what's going on with this movie? Like I know it's coming streaming like very, very shortly yeah, and it's already available.
Speaker 1:It was available to buy last week too, yes, after such a short cinema run, and obviously the other movie right now that's doing that is furiosa. Furiosa suffering from the same thing from a movie from 2015 that was again same issue, I believe in 2015. Yeah, similar, I don't. It's not as bad as as this one, unfortunately, um, but yeah, I just I really wish these movies were performing better. I wish there was a better landscape where a group of people just didn't need to see something that was connected to something. Uh, but we're what we're gonna do. We'll talk about that for a little bit, but we just want to talk about what we thought was a pretty fun, fun movie yeah, yeah, 100 um.
Speaker 2:So that's gonna be our main topic, but we do have some news starting first and foremost, speaking of continuity venom. We've been waiting. We've been waiting for this. So venom 3, the last dance got its official first three minute trailer. Um, it's because it's the third movie. Yes, I'll imagine. If the studio did that, man marvel movie trailers would be like 20 some odd minutes by now I love it.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, we did get a first look at the at the last dance, which I guess signifies that this will be the last Venom movie of the Venom trilogy that has wrapped itself up, as we learned before this podcast, within 10 years, which I think is actually pretty great. It has been 10 years, wow. But I think that's good, like, I think that's a good you know, for all we can say about, like the Sony Spider-Man movies, like you know, ten years for a trilogy, it's not overstaying its welcome, it's not taking a billion years to make looking at you, shang-chi too. You know, ten years, pack it up and let's get the ball rolling, unless it's a billion dollars.
Speaker 2:You know what did we think of this trailer.
Speaker 1:Look.
Speaker 2:I had one thought going through this whole trailer it should look worse, it should look worse and it didn't look horrible, which, for this movie and this universe, is probably the best compliment I can give um, I quite like the fact that we we got some venom in the daylight for once in these movies. It's like batman being outside. Yeah, it's a little weird, um, but I kind of liked it. You know, cause a lot of the venom stuff in the previous two movies happens at nighttime. Um, obviously it's covering up some of the you know effects and CGI and stuff, but you know it definitely feels like they're I won't say going for it in this movie, um, movie, um, but they already went for it. They already went for it, um, so this one is just, I think, you know it feels like the venom movies, as opposed to madame webb, as opposed to morbius, as opposed to, you know, presumably craving the hunter feels kind of immune to like the the. We hate this like thing, like everyone, because I feel like venom, because I think venom did it first. So, like venom, like established, like the niche of, like this is ridiculous, it's kind of dumb, it's kind of b movie level, but that's why we love it.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like venom as a character, right encapsulated in these movies because, like I know, venom as a character has developed this kind of like cult following is like a character, but like venom's not cool, like he's cool but he's not like like the backstory is not, like he's not the super interesting, like introspective comic book character, like it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Like the character came out in the 90s, like radical 90s era, um, they just needed a bigger, badder spider-man. They created venom and he just gained this following because cool design, you know, kind of violent, goofy. I don't think a lot of people realize how goofy the venom comics are, um, uh. So I think these movies kind of encapsulate everything that, weirdly enough, people really enjoy about venom, true, um, and tom hardy clearly loves the character and loves doing it, and I think that can for movies like this. That can hold a lot of weight when the the lead actor really cares about the project, because, like I don't think jared little really cared about morbius, um, I don't. I mean it's clear that that the madam webb crew didn't really care about those movies.
Speaker 1:So here's what I'll say about that. My thing, for that always will be what I think happens is these actors jump onto the movies and they're like you're going to be in a Marvel movie and they're like, ooh, mcu Marvel movie. And they're like you're playing Madam Web and I'm like, ooh, okay, who's Madam Web? You guys are good at making B and d list characters into somebody. And then the movie comes out or they see the first cup and they're like, so where are the avengers? Like, oh sorry, wrong universe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm at least gonna interact with spider-man, right, no, no, yeah, where I think like tom hardy was just like I don't care he knew going in day one we're doing. We're doing venom right, he knew from day one. Oh so this trailer man, um, the big, I guess the big, two big things coming out of this trailer man, the big, I guess, the big two big things coming out of this trailer One, chiotel Ejiofor's character. We speculated for months. We were hoping, fingers crossed, that he was going to be Noel.
Speaker 1:We don't know that he's not yet.
Speaker 2:We don't know that he's not Noel, but he, all intents and purposes, just appears to be insert random military guy hunting the main character. He insert random military guy hunting the main character. He's General Swanwick from man of Steel. And then the big sticking point that stuck out to a lot of the nerds is that Chiwetel Ejiofor's character apparently captures the symbiote that was left behind in the post-credits scene of Spider-Man. No Way Home. They don't care.
Speaker 1:No, they don't. Let's address it. Do you think they never cared? This was never a thing that they cared about. Continuity was always thrown out in the Sony universe.
Speaker 2:And if the MCU is going to introduce the symbiote, they will just do it in a different way that ignores this completely.
Speaker 1:Maybe they just do it in Secret Wars, like it is in the comics. They can very much just do that if they want to.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So we don't know who or what the villain of this is, it just appears to be a symbiote invasion, which still makes me think that noel can be the main villain of this movie man, if they do?
Speaker 2:no, that would be just that'd be incredible.
Speaker 1:Noel's like the most powerful of the symbiotes and he just gets choatella, joe ford, so he needs a host. Yeah, that could happen.
Speaker 2:I'm not putting anything past this movie.
Speaker 1:Let's see what else in this trailer it really Chiwetel Ejiofor signed on to be just a military guy. Yeah, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Especially since I'm like it's not like.
Speaker 1:This is like Morbius or Adam Webber where it was the first movie. So they didn't know, and he knows the delineation he was in a Marvel thing he was.
Speaker 2:He was Like a proper Marvel thing Twice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he yeah. That is weird that this is his relegation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is weird.
Speaker 1:Unless they have something crazy for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it's possible. The cop is back from the last one. He gets controlled by a symbiote which one Couldn't tell you. Don't remember, reese Fonz is in this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, continuity doesn't matter. Is he Kurt Connors? What universe is this? Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. Is he Kurt Connors? Doesn't matter, does not matter, we don't care.
Speaker 2:And then Mrs Chen is back. We got some look at some of the action. It's samey from the last ones Um big, big swinging tendrils.
Speaker 1:It feels more creative. I will say like the environmentally speaking, it seems a little bit more creative.
Speaker 2:I think that probably the honestly the probably the best action sequence in any of these is in the first one, and the um when he goes into the building like the office building. I don't care about that though.
Speaker 2:It just looked like third act mess and then he goes into yeah, he fights all those army guys in the office building with the smoke. I like that bit. And then the big reveal at the end of the trailer which I argue they should have just saved it for the movie Venom Horse has taken the internet by storm. It's the end of the trailer which I argue they should have just saved it for the movie. Venom Horse has taken the internet by storm and I think it's great that Venom Horse did look cool. Did look cool Like how do they one-up giving the symbiote to what's her name? Michelle Williams, michelle, she in this one. No, no, oh, she bowed out, huh.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:She's a high cinema actor now. Um, and yeah, so how they went up giving michelle williams the symbiote in venom 2? They give it to a horse in this one and I think that's awesome cool stuff. It was fun. Um, look this, I. I think this movie could actually be pretty good. Um, compared to all the other sony marvel stuff that we've gotten. Um, compared to you, the other Sony Marvel stuff that we've gotten compared to, I think, venom is, they know what the movie is, whereas I don't think these other ones that have come out quite knew what they were. Morbius certainly didn't, matt Smith did. Matt Smith knew what kind of movie it was.
Speaker 1:He's the only one that walked out and was like, oh, this is a joke, right but, like Madame Web, didn't know what it was um.
Speaker 2:The creators knew, though, but they didn't tell any of the actors. Man, madame webb, if you would have gone with the premise of, like, the final destination movie, but it's set in spider-man universe, that's cool that could have been really cool, kind of cool, and it took place in 2003, which is what I thought that when we saw the trailer for Madden Web, I thought that's what they were gunning for and I'm like, oh, this is actually kind of interesting.
Speaker 2:And then the movie happened, which we still haven't seen. It's on Netflix though it's coming. The Madden Web review will come, madden Web retrospective. So, yeah, that Venom. So it comes out in October, right, still holding its October spot, I think, yes. And then Kraven got pushed back to December Because Kraven was supposed to be first. Yes, kraven should have come out first.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they moved Venom up because of the election Right, they said we knew the election was going to need some space to breathe.
Speaker 2:Rock your vote. Yeah, we'll move up.
Speaker 2:Don't worry, then your vote, it's all right. Oh, they need to put venom in like election spots for voting to promote voting. Do it lean into it? Um, the last of us. We got some last of us news so last week. Uh, obviously we did not record, but we did find out that we, we called this. I mean, we're probably not the only ones who called this. No, we are the. We are the only ones, we are the only ones.
Speaker 2:Not even Craig Mazin knew Jeffrey Wright is returning to the Last of Us. For those of you who do not know, obviously if you're a show follower you wouldn't know this, but Jeffrey Wright was in the Last of Us 2 as Isaac, the leader of the WLF, and Jeffrey Wright, as we hoped, will be returning as Isaac in the Last of Us, season 2. So he's not playing Abby. Nope, he will not be playing Abby. He will be reprising his role as Isaac, and this also comes off the news today that Craig Mazin has said that A Season 2 of the Last of Us will be seven episodes, so it will be shorter than Season 1. Um, season two of the last of us will be seven episodes, so it'll be shorter than season one. Um, and it will not um cover the entirety of the last of us part two storyline, as that he believes will will likely take place will definitely take place over a season three and potentially even the season four, um, of which they plan to cover the last of us part two, so that um shifts a lot of paradigms and a lot of parameters for our predictions of of where this season is gonna start and end.
Speaker 2:And I think they we kind of talked about this last time we recorded um I think they're gonna do exactly what you know, I I'm hoping that they do, and they do a lot of legwork with the abby character, um, and kind of make her a secondary protagonist of the show before the big, the big bomb drops, which now I believe will to your point. I think you made this point um, it very well that bomb very well may drop at the end of season two. Um, you know and you know that bomb is obviously spoiler alert. Um, get out of here. Get out of here if you don't want to know anything about the last of us part two. Um, yeah, I think I think they might end season two with, with the death of joel. I think that's what.
Speaker 1:That's certainly a lot of that is lining up yeah, what it does too is it gives you pedro pascal for a for a full season, um, and it doesn't portray any of the gamers too, because what it will do is the structure still stays the same Like it's. It's essentially your, your prologue a little bit. So your prologue for the last was part two is the death of Joel, and then you can get into season three, where then Ellie's revenge and Ellie's revenge is just in one season Like this, is you what you do? Is you do Jackson in season two and then you do Seattle in season three? I think you yeah, I know some of the films that they were see that they were scenes that they were filming were set in Seattle. Yeah, yeah, and Jeffrey Wright's character also would lend credence to that fact too, that it's set in Seattle. But I also think that I have a different thought about that. What the set photo you saw, jeffrey Wright's, that that wasn't in the present day.
Speaker 2:I think they're going to do. I said this when we talked about hoping that they would get Jeffrey Wright originally. If you're going to get him, you're not going to get him for what Isaac's role was in the game, which is relatively minor.
Speaker 2:I think they're going to get Jeffrey Wright to be a kind of um kind of antagonist not antagonistic figure, but this kind of, uh, dirtagonist figure to what I presume will be abby's storyline, because I don't. I think, you know, based on the seven episode thing, based on what they're saying about season two and three, I think there's going to be a lot of dual perspective storytelling in season two and three, that where ellie and abby are kind of isolated, like they. Their storylines are running parallel that don't cross until a certain point where obviously you're gonna see what happens with abby's dad and they're gonna link all that up, and a it's gonna make abby a much more sympathetic character to her, what she ends up doing, and b it having a jeffrey right there as isaac kind of gives her something to work with. So I think that's kind of what they're going to shoot for and I think that's a really great idea.
Speaker 1:Like I said, I think the work you have to do with the Abby character, with the game, is you have to make her decision stick and you have to make viewers feel somewhat comfortable with it you also have to if you're going to do this for abby, because I think they're smart enough to know the fan reception to the last of us, part two, which you're definitely going to have to do.
Speaker 1:I told you this I don't know if we talked about this on here the biggest swing you can take for abby's character is making her father more of a main character in the story, especially in season two. A hundred percent, and then doing what you did to Joel, to Abby's father, in a very jarring scene. Like you need to. Like you have to show it from Abby's father's perspective. Like we had Ellie on this table. We were, really we were ready to execute this plan, and this madman walked into this hospital and ended the human race. Like you need to show it from that perspective too, because I told you this and it's the same thing I talked about with, like timothy chalamet, with dune, you have to get somebody that's so lovable when they do the, when the atrocities happen, like people will call it needs to.
Speaker 1:It's a two-way street for this, for this story, like abby's character needs to be to the fact of like, oh, I'm doing this because this man, this psychopath, murdered my father and he murdered the human race. Like that's the approach they need to take with Joel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't need to get people to a place where they're like I totally agree with Abby, but I think you need to at least get them to a point where, like, I understand why she did. What she did is what I think the game. I don't think the game does that fine, but I think just people. I don't think the game does that fine, but I think people. Just it happens so abruptly and the introduction to the character is a little. I understand what they were doing, introducing her the way they did in the game, but they took a swing. That's all I can say about it. I'll never.
Speaker 1:I'm still on the good side for the actual Joel's death because, I'll say this over and over again that's exactly what abruptly losing a loved one, that's exactly what happened. It's not supposed to be something where this person was sick and we knew it was happening. No, no, no. They abruptly were murdered or they abruptly were killed. It's supposed to feel like this absolute gut-wrench moment. That's what grief is after the fact. So I'm totally okay with the fact that they did that in the game. I still will agree to your point about the actual introduction to Abby needed maybe a little bit of work. I'm much more sympathetic to the Last of Us, part II.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all in all, I think it's obviously an incredible game and incredible storytelling. Just certain things I think they wanted obviously an incredible game, an incredible mark in storytelling. I just you know just certain things. I think you know they wanted to try some stuff and I will never begrudge, you know writers anyone for trying some stuff. You know they wanted to try and do this thing where you know they deploy this bomb right in the beginning of the game with this kind of unknown character and then you become that character later on. You know, know it's it's designed to make you uncomfortable and make you angry, like I think that's the kind of a lot what gets lost, um, about that game.
Speaker 2:But I think for a tv show not putting the viewer in abby's shoes as opposed to a game I think you do need to make her more sympathetic and make her more of a protagonist for a TV show. And I think, based on this information about season two and the Last of Us Part II being adapted possibly across three whole seasons, I think that's what they're going to do. I think they're going to make Abby and Ellie kind of parallel protagonists and then inevitably the last, probably two or maybe even three episodes that those storylines converge and ultimately end where they end. And maybe those set photos of ellie and and uh, dina in seattle is literally the end of season two, where they kind of like stroll into seattle and they're like we're here, motherfuckers like, and then season three picks up, right you know, starting off in Seattle, like yeah, yeah, most important thing that I'll say for Abby and her father, the actor they choose to play Abby's father could be the absolute make or break for this thing that we're talking about, this idea that we have.
Speaker 1:If you're going to do this and you're going to make Abby as sympathetic, it's just as important as who played joel in getting pedro pascal like this is. This could be equally. This might honestly be more important of a casting, because if you can get I told you, I told I was talking to rob about this off if you can get somebody that is so dang likable and so dang bulletproof to the fact if this person was murdered that, like twitter would be up in arms, you did something right. That's exactly what you want, because it's going to happen when Joel dies. So you need to also do that for whoever plays Abby's father. We were trying to think my favorite one that you did was Tom Hanks, but it would need to be a younger version of Tom Hanks man. That would be awesome, but a Tom Hanks type would be good. Just somebody that's super likable, that everybody likes as an actor Like Paul Rudd would be perfect for something like that.
Speaker 2:If you murdered Paul Rudd, you'd be like what the heck are you doing? Yeah, paul Rudd would be a good one. Actually he's so dang likable.
Speaker 1:That actually is pretty good. Like a Paul Rudd type would be perfect. And her dad was kind of fun, he was cracking jokes and stuff and I could see him next to like caitlin devere like they kind of I don't know, they kind of yeah a little little father daughter action and like he's like the funny dad that like got her through the end of the world too through his like humor and through his like you know, his calm in the situation and his logic, I can get you through this. Give Paul Rudd a call.
Speaker 2:Because I guess, technically Abby Zedd was in season one. But he was behind a mask so you can recast it, not an actual actor that sounds messed up. To say, a more notable name, right, and no one will bat an eye. But I'm super excited, I thought that, seeing that today and being you know now that we kind of have the time frame like that kind of.
Speaker 1:That makes me's what Season 4 is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's entirely possible too.
Speaker 1:They've been talking about something at Naughty Dog for months on end, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they've been working on. I think Neil Druckmann said they're working on a few games, but he also did say that he said we're going to establish ourselves and remind people that we're not just the Last of us. Um, so yeah, they're definitely cooking some stuff up. I would not be surprised. Um, yeah, you know what a good.
Speaker 1:I can't even say it's a good. It is a good thing but it's more of a comfortability thing. Thank God that, like Neil Druckmann can take his time and like go back to gaming like his home of gaming. Um, isn't it great that his fallback is craig mazen.
Speaker 1:Like that's the guy that you can like rely yourself to take the story and not be nervous like yeah, someone with like already like emmy award-winning television under his belt obviously neil druckman's gonna be there the same, but like it just takes a little bit off his plate knowing that like he doesn't need to be there every single waking second. Like you can have somebody like craig mazen who is literally teaching classes in hollywood on how to do this stuff like I, I think he's a perfect person to have alongside him yeah, um, and then just got a couple marvel things.
Speaker 2:So, um, we we've been talking for a couple weeks about john carlo esposito being in the mcu. Nobody really knew what he was doing. You know this character was. We still don't know what the character is, but we do know now that he will be in Captain America 4. That movie is undergoing some pretty extensive reshoots, which is always kind of concerning. We still don't really know what this movie is. Sam's got his old suit back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm assuming that's probably an early scene of the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we did see Gian carlo esposito on set. He's got a trench coat, he's got some sunglasses, he's got some knives in his little bandolier there. Um, he will be playing a villain, surprise, surprise yeah, so I mean the rumor mill around.
Speaker 1:I've heard people thinking he's one of the x-men villains, like people thought he was um. What's his name?
Speaker 2:strikerryker, Stryker or.
Speaker 1:Bolivar Trask, or what's the other one, gyrick?
Speaker 2:They thought he was Henry Gyrick.
Speaker 1:So I know one of my theories early is that he would have been the vice president of the United States, because that's what they kept saying and he kept saying this is a character we've never seen before. So in my mind I was like perfect timing if he was going to be like the vice president. And then ross goes off the rails, turns into red hulk oh, you're the president now and now he's just the president of the united states yeah, and then that kind of also, like you know, gets harrison ford out of the way, right because obviously harrison ford isn't going to do this forever.
Speaker 1:And then you get somebody like john carlo esposito, that he he doesn't need to be held by anything, any comic, and now he can just be around Like he's just the president of the United States, just running amok a little bit I did like one theory I had, if they were going to go the X-Men route, is that he was Senator Kelly at this time and then later in the MCU he would become President Kelly at some point.
Speaker 2:Well, he looks a little too strapped up in these set photos to be Senator Kelly.
Speaker 1:Which makes me think that a lot of people just the way that it looked is that he's playing Busher from the Moon Knight comics, who gets his face ripped off by Moon Knight in a very gruesome panel. So that could be something that happens, I don't know. A little piece of me wishes they would have made this a little bit more simple and just made him somebody, and we just ripped the bandaid off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because he also said this character is going to show up in a few things, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or a show, or that he was going to be in some which presumably would have just been Moon Knight Season 2, if he is playing the busher, so yeah, interesting, very interesting.
Speaker 2:I mean, the cast of this movie is sensational. The cast is crazy, the cast is nuts, I mean you got Harrison Ford and Giancarlo Esposito in the same movie, alongside Anthony Mackie and Sebastian.
Speaker 1:Stan and others.
Speaker 2:So I mean, the cast is great. It's just a lot of weirdness around this Captain America movie that I can't square.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean the plot's just going to be they go after the adamantium. That Tiamat is now.
Speaker 2:I know what's his name. He plays. He's playing the leader.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Tim Blake Nelson.
Speaker 1:I think he said today that he's going back for some reshoots for this Interesting I know they had to redo some of the movie, I believe because of the because of the israeli gaza crisis. I think they had to. They had to read, hopefully, yeah, they had to retool some of this um yeah, because there's a israeli kind of superhero character.
Speaker 2:Uh, I don't remember her name at the moment, but, um, yeah, hopefully they're gonna, you know, write around that. Um yeah, I don't know this captain america thing is. It continues to be perplexing, this movie's like coming up fast.
Speaker 1:This movie comes out in february, right of 2025, like it was supposed to come out this year. Like we might get a trailer for this movie sooner rather than later. If I'm not, if they're already in the reshoot territory we might get a trailer probably in the next couple months, uh could be.
Speaker 2:Isn't d23 this month or?
Speaker 1:next month next month, next month it might be next month. Yeah, it's july, because I know this month is jam-packed with just normal stuff like a lot of stuff yeah, so I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 2:Um, if that's kind of where d that was, d23 is kind of big well, more of the marvel part. I mean, mcdonald's already spoiled the red hulk thing, so yes, I wouldn't be surprised if, if, if the marvel section of d23 was like here's the trailer, right um here's like the big trailer to end d23.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of shut up nerds. Here it's harrison ford. They just do harris, it's harrison they should bring him out for all the press. Don't bring anybody else. What was your favorite marvel movie? Indiana jones and raiders of the lost ark?
Speaker 2:shut up. Uh, avengers news. We have some avengers rumors. I should say it's not, it's not quite news, um, but this is uh a lot of, a lot of a lot of news, a lot of rumors that that feel right ish.
Speaker 2:Um, so avengers 5 it's the whole avengers thing is being retooled, which I think we called this like when when, when this whole timeline of all these movies got announced, we were like no shot and all the behind the scenes stuff started happening. There's no shot. They're releasing two Avengers movies in the same year. No, no chance in heck. Lo and behold, that happened Um.
Speaker 2:Everything else with Jonathan majors happened, um, just the relative cooling off, cooling off of Marvel in general. So Avengers 5 is way up in the air. Michael Waldron is still writing the script. He has turned that in and they are throwing that script allegedly to Deadpool director Sean Levy, which tracks with a lot of what we've been hearing about Deadpool, that Kevin Feige was floored by it. He's super impressed with it and Sean Levy could be getting the keys to the proverbial castle of an Avengers 5 movie that may feature in excess of 60 MCU characters. That will be more of an ensemble type movie that will see the returns of Thor, loki, the Hulk, doctor Strange, nebulabula and shang chi could all be returning um. Production will begin in 2025. The main villain is no longer kang. The main villain is unknown at this point, which tells me that there's a, there's a shot.
Speaker 1:It might be dr doom, if they're going to do this and marvel is going to meet with other directors.
Speaker 2:Um, apparently sean levy appears to be their first choice because they're going to meet with other directors. Um, apparently sean levy appears to be their first choice because they're gonna meet with other directors while they wait for him to kind of make up his mind right.
Speaker 1:Um, we'll, we'll know that. You know when? We're gonna know deadpool 3 comes out on july 26th. We're gonna know on july 27th.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna happen probably yeah, um, that's a lot, a lot of news to digest. Um, I don't know, I can't imagine a movie that's gonna have 60 characters in it, right not unless it's secret wars, and this movie is gonna have to.
Speaker 1:Both movies are gonna have to be like three hours long if we're gonna do this. This, I mean, this brings up a whole another can of worms with where, the state that they're in right now. That brings up a whole. The fear I have, too is, you know it's funny that we talked about venom because venom had three movies like we haven't even gotten a shang chi 2 and we're talking about finally he'll return for this, like we, we should have. I don't care if secret wars didn't come out until 2030, if everybody got their dues and it was like continuous, solid, solid, solid, solid, good, good, getting up until the point and up until the moment. So I am, I'm a little, I'm still not a little bit, I'm a lot of bit nervous about this, this whole thing and Avengers, because we're that super, this isn't going to be secret wars, right, whatever this movie is.
Speaker 2:This is going to be what was previously supposed to be the Kang dynasty Interesting, interesting.
Speaker 1:Okay. I mean, which storyline do you pull for something like this? Because you can't do Secret Invasion, which I scream to the mountains. That's exactly what Avengers 5 should have been. You should have done all your individual movies and then get to Secret Wars or just get to Secret Invasion. You're not going to do Kree-Squirrel War because we already did that for two Captain Marvel movies, like that's already done. Yeah, what do you do at this point? You have to do. You just have to do Secret Wars right and make it two parts, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's awesome. I mean, if they're talking about bringing in a billion characters, like like there's only so many avengers storylines that you need that many characters for um, and you did one already, like you did the infinity gauntlet already, so you gotta you know what's the next, the next phase of that, and secret, secret wars makes sense, um, but I don't know. I don't know if you can do the infinity war end game thing again, but I don't know if you can do the Infinity War Endgame thing again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with the same. Not even gravitas, but the same. I'll say gravitas, but I'll say organic gravitas. I don't think that's. And you could have had something like that with Secret Wars. We don't know if you still can. It's just what we keep saying.
Speaker 2:We can week out any time we talk about this is is it going to feel natural or is it gonna feel like obligation produced? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know um, and then I mean the sean levy choice I think is really interesting. Yeah, yeah, um, it just like I said. I think it just apparently everyone's super impressed with what deadpool is doing, so, um, we'll find out a lot more next month. Yeah, yeah, um, if Deadpool is really going to be what people think it's going to be, um, we'll see, we'll definitely see, but I don't know it's. It's crazy that, like Avengers is kind of in this state where, like you should be over the hill like excited about it, right, but you're kind of just like, eh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So the big thing is, we didn't need to.
Speaker 2:We didn't need to be here either we no, they kind of did it themselves um, so I don't know um, but yeah, let's talk.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about the fall guy, um the david leach joint yeah, um yeah, shout out david leach as well too, I mean putting together quite a, quite a resume here as a director yeah, I mean, what I love about david leach is he's somebody for lack of a better term that loves the game.
Speaker 1:He loves the game and I always love the idea of when these, when these people in hollywood, they, they love what it's like, they love what they do. It's not just about I need to make money off, like I, I love this thing's like they love what they do. It's not just about I need to make money out, like I, I love this thing. And stunt coordination is obviously what he, what he loves. He created his own studio or his own company, 87 North, which is featured in the fall guy, which is pretty fun, but I mean, he just brings energy that's my favorite thing and work on whether it be bullet train, whether it be deadpool 2, he brings energy to anything that he does too, which is important for a director.
Speaker 1:You got to get people and it's any type of leadership.
Speaker 1:You got to get people going. You got to give people a reason to to do the thing that they were doing and I think, even more over than the, than the stunt coordination and stunts needing to be recognized amongst hollywood, it's just getting these a-list actors, too, to be bought into something like that and doing a lot of practicals too, because they easily could have been like we're not, nope, not doing any, like they were doing a lot of practicals, and I mean most of it was practicals as well too. It's just that movie is such a great idea, it's such a great lesson, and homage as well too, and not just homage to like a thing, but homage to to like a concept almost of of you know why stunt coordination needs to be recognized on a grand scale. It's just it was it's. It's such a, it's such a layered watch without it, without it having to be this story layer. It's just it's like it out of universe, like we understand, like how important a movie like this is yeah, and it's such a it's.
Speaker 2:It's in a weird way, it's kind of a throwback to, to the like, just these silly old school action movies I mean it's based off that.
Speaker 1:That's what it's based off of.
Speaker 2:It's based off the the show from the 80s as well yeah, yeah, 100 it's, but it's just, you know, it invokes, like you know, I think of movies like um, you know, kind of like 21 jump street yeah, 21 jump street, your og roadhouse like just these, like fun, dumb you villain-of-the-week-esque shows and then movies where Just like twists upon twists Right, like twists upon ridiculous twists.
Speaker 1:Yeah, an absolutely charismatic main character, your love interest, all these things, and not only does this movie understand that, but they also subvert very well and one of the best pieces, it does it with Jodi. I think it does it really well Emily Blunt's character too, because she simply could have just been the you know, your love interest and that could have been it. But she's so much more than that, which is great too, and everybody brings it in this movie. Winston Duke is great. I always forget her name from Ted Lasso, the manager. Um, I always forget her name from Ted Lasso, the, the manager, or the. Yeah, she's great. I love how she's just kind of slipped into this. If we need, a villain.
Speaker 2:You call her at this point. Make her Kang Um. Yeah, I mean this movie um is a lot of fun. And then you know, just just real quick, like obviously, cause the big thing is like the box office, um, and it, made you know, is like the box office, and it made you know it didn't make a ton. I mean it wasn't made for a ton, but at the same time you know it just didn't get a lot of time to marinate and that's the unfortunate thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this movie needs to absolutely thrive off word of mouth, and I think this movie, based off how much it made, probably overperformed because it had Ryan Gosling in there too. Yeah, so it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, this movie is a classic casualty of the streaming era where it's not a movie that you know is going to make people. You know, I think if this movie came out in 2007, it would do really well because you wouldn't see it If you didn't go to the theaters and see it. You wouldn't see it for a couple months, um, because you know dvds, you know, would come out way later. But I think this is a it's not a slight on it to say I hope to say like, this is one of those movies that, like you, would just kind of be scrolling through netflix or whatever. Your streaming service is a bit ah, sick.
Speaker 2:I, like ryan gosling, like you just throw it on, like, and you know you're not necessarily motivated to go see it in theaters um, because you can just see it in the confines of your home in three weeks, um, and that's the unfortunate thing, because I think I think the movie's really fun, um, and ryan gosling has has has settled into this yeah, yeah, this this, this weird niche that he's in in his career right now floating at this point where he he's the definition of range at this point, because I mean in the last, let's just track from.
Speaker 1:If you track from 2013, so place beyond the pine. So let's just look at him over the last 10 years. So we'll say, from 2014, ryan gosling to 2024. Ryan gosling like it's the same guy, like that's the same guy, that's always been. But I feel like there's a level of comfortability that he has in himself and I think the nice guys, funny enough, is the one that unlocked that. And it's funny because he made the nice guys and he made first man in the same year, which are two completely, absolutely different roles and he was perfect for both of them. And I mean La La Land, you have. You have Barbie as well too, blade Runner and again, like Barbie versus Blade Runner, like two drastically different roles, but he's perfect for each of them. He's such, I mean again like the idea of the movie star feels like it's coming back.
Speaker 2:It truthfully, feels like it's coming back in full form and he was kind of like he's kind of I'm really happy for him in the sense that he's kind of escaped the teen heartthrob role that he was in, obviously, in the beginning of his career and he's kind of ascended to movie star status now, which is really cool for him and he's really good in this movie.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, he's incredible, and I mean he embodies, I mean comedically he works, and then you know, His comedic timing continues to be one of the most impressive things about this run that he's been on. It's funny because usually people do it the other way where their comedic timing was good, and then they get dramatic. Like did he do it the other way after the heartthrob era because he got really dramatic and then he made the nice guys and I was like, oh wait, this guy's actually hilarious yeah, because he was.
Speaker 2:I mean he did the notebook and that was like that. He got stuck there. He got stuck there after that movie and then he it took him probably seven years, six years, yeah, that's six years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like because I think, or 2012, so place beyond the pond comes out in 2012 like oh, and then drive comes out, like that's the time where he started to break and break and break and I think he had gangster squad in 2013, like he started to to slowly inch away from it. And then I mean, obviously, once la la land came out, land came out. That's when he truthfully began to strive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like second-generation. Ryan Gosling arrived and now this could be like. This is like third-generation.
Speaker 1:Ryan Gosling. Is he the Ron James?
Speaker 2:Kind of there's a longevity here with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his heartthrob era was the first Cleveland stint and then he got into when he was doing a lot of drama stuff plus La La Land. So that was his Miami heat time, and now he's just settled into Cleveland.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's a really cool kind of arc that he's on. Like I said, this feels like third-generation Ryan Gosling, where now he's kind of doing these wacky, he's really showing off his comedic chops and he's only 43.
Speaker 1:He's not only the comedic chops, his movie star chops, but credible movie Because there's movie stars that are movie stars because they're pretty, and then there's movie stars because they know what they're doing and then he did the Oscars.
Speaker 2:Obviously he did the Oscar performance, which, just Obviously, he even put more eyes on him as far as like oh, this guy, I mean he played Ken.
Speaker 1:Like you know what I mean, like he Barbie and Kenny played Ken, like that's such a, that's such a layup.
Speaker 2:And I mean, like I said, he's only. He's been in Hollywood forever, but he's only 43. He's got probably another 30 or 40 years. Yeah, at least another 30 or 40 years, yeah, at least. Um. So, and he's great in this, um, you know that that character in the hands, in the hands of a lesser actor, this movie could be really this movie and that character, colt severs, could be really grating. Um, but because he's just so, he's just so, I don't know how to put it like, he's just so chill, he's just so chill, he's glucose, he's just so chill until he's not, you know, um, I think that, you know, I think the only thing about this movie, I think it just it it starts a little slow, but I think it has to, um, because you gotta, like, kind of, you know, throw your main character into his, his call to action, which, in this instance, is his accident.
Speaker 1:You know what I'll compare that to? I'll'll compare it to Bullet Train because David Leitch. But I think what Bullet Train slightly suffers from in the beginning of the movie is that when Bullet Train starts running it understands that this movie is fast, like. This is a fast-paced movie. But then I have to retroactively start learning about everybody. Where in this movie I'm learning about everybody out of the jump. So we're going to do all that world building right now, all that character building now, and then we'll get striding which I'm fine with.
Speaker 2:I'll actually take that, yeah, yeah, I agree. Um, and you know, the funny thing is is like this is one of those movies where, like, if you flip the perspective, like it could have a totally different main character. Like you could have made this a little bit more of a if you wanted to. Like you could have made this a little bit more of a serious movie about emily blunt's character. Like, if you really wanted to, um, you could have made this movie about aaron taylor johnson's character. Like that's the cool thing about this movie is like if you shift the perspective a little bit, like any one of these three main characters could have been heck, you could have made winston duke's character the main character.
Speaker 1:You could have this stunt coordinator that's worked all his life to be a stunt. You know a full out, like I'm the main guy doing the stunts for the movie and his best friend gets framed for murder and he has to help his best friend. Like that's a movie yeah, um.
Speaker 2:But yeah, man, this movie was. It was something else. I really enjoyed it. Um, it's two hours, which is great. Yep, um, I a good two-hour romp, um, and that's exactly what this is. Like I said after the first, like 25 ish minutes, where cole has his accident and he kind of like you know he's down on his luck and you kind of see like he's, he's past his prime, he's you know he's injured, and then he gets call to to action happens. I just love when you can follow the arc man.
Speaker 1:We say it all. It's not complicated. It's the Project Infinite Top Gun. It's the Top Gun law. We have a list of laws. Actually, we have a list of commandments. One of the commandments is, when you're storytelling, be as much as Top Gun as you can. You don't have to make this overly complicated. This can be as simple as it needs to be. All this movie is is Stunt Guy gets injured. Stunt Guy comes back. Stunt Guy has to save somebody. Twist end, that's it. That's this movie. Fall in love Again. Yeah, you throw a little romance in there. I love the 80s man. I love the 80s man. I love the 80s influence out of this too. The perfect action star era to put him in as well.
Speaker 1:The music choice is just always great.
Speaker 2:Tension. You have a little romantic tension, obviously when he sees Emily Blunt again for the first time, and since his accident. There's the will, they won't they. It's got all the hallmarks.
Speaker 1:But in a lesser movie. This movie would have just been about the fact of all those things you just named, but in this movie that does everything better. You know why it works? Because this movie is technically freaking sound, because this movie was made by a stunt coordinator, talk about it and it was a movie that was made by people that care about all these things. I love the opening montage as well, too, where it's all the script notes and stuff like that, and then and then even oh, you know what's been what hollywood's been doing great over the last couple of years?
Speaker 1:The delayed opening title card. Yeah, I'm glad we're doing that again. It's great. Um, impossible, uh, dead reckoning might have the best one still, because they waited like 35 minutes to get there, like 30 minutes to get theirs. But the delayed, the delayed title card is always great. I love it. So this movie is so technically incredible. They have the they beat Casino Royale for the most car rolls on a car stunt, which is awesome, and I love the behind the scenes that they threw at the end of the movie. Yeah, and I mean I love, you know, I love the game, I love this stuff and I just love seeing david leach there on set just doing his thing, like I think that's just the coolest thing. Being a director has got to be one of the coolest things on planet earth that you can do. Yeah, and you can tell he's having fun while he's doing it too and he earned it, man.
Speaker 1:That's what I'll say he earned that, like you went through all those years stunt coordinator, coordinating all those things and now you you're getting your, you're getting your due, you have your own company. Now you're a big time hollywood director. Now I'm not gonna be surprised if a bunch of people start giving him calls to like please make my thing, my action thing. We're in a great era for action right now and I just saw furiosa yesterday. Like action is, is really this is really gonna be a main genre. That's credible again, because we went through that weird phase where action was like, well, the action is just in the superhero movies. And then john wick came out and they're like, well, action needs to be in the john wick universe and now we're kind of a david leach joint.
Speaker 1:Yeah, co-directed with chad salsky exactly so we're kind of getting to this place where action can now again the movie star era is back. It feels like the action era. It's the eighties again. We're getting back to the eighties. I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and you know we can, honestly, you can probably credit John Wick for that. Um, I'd say you could credit like the, it's like the triumvirate of like taken equalizer John Wick, like that all kind of came out within the same kind of time frame that we're like wait, are action movies back, and then, you know, it kind of just took off from there and then obviously Tom Cruise brought Top Gun back.
Speaker 1:That might be the most For me. I think I'll remix your point, I think I'll have to go a little. It's the combination of John Wick on a hand-to-hand level and then it's top gun on like a non like person level, like in, like a thing, like a spectacle, like a spectacle like a car or a like. That was groundbreaking is an understatement to talk about. But again, it's not. It's just people are just dialed in when they're making the thing. It's not doesn't need to be overly complicated, it's just execution is everything and then you just have.
Speaker 2:This was just like a perfect mix of of all that stuff. You know, very, like you said, kind of throwback, you like, spearheaded by this just galvanizing lead actor that like is pretty bulletproof right now. Um, in ryan gosling, and yeah, man, it's like the plot is not overly complicated, like colt gets hurt, colt gets a call from gail who, like isn't that?
Speaker 1:a call from Gale, a call from action. Isn't that a call You're?
Speaker 2:a call to action from story time and Gale calls him up and like you as a viewer already kind of know like something's kind of up with Gale, but like is she? Like you don't really think she's, I just thought she's like typical smarmy Hollywood producer lady person.
Speaker 1:Of course, the guy that worked in Hollywood for so long would make that the villain Beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, she calls him back. She's like hey, Emily Blunt really wants to see you on set. She, she needs you, colt. And he's like she needs me, she needs me, colton. Um, and he goes there and and classic mix-up. Emily Blunt's like get lost.
Speaker 1:I saw people saying earlier that one of the weak points of this movie was their relationship, which I just absolutely disagree with. I mean, what do you want from it? I thought they worked great together, yeah, and you knew how this was gonna go. You know what I think too? I think if Oppenheimer and Barbie hadn't come out before this, nobody ever would have thought about this. But I think people have their brains on too much to think about it when it's happening. So I think in their mind they're like why is ryan gosling and emily blunt having a relationship? Because you think about it, you're like why are they not with other people? And I'm like, no, no, no, this is a movie, remember yeah, yeah, they're bringing real life into it too much.
Speaker 1:Um no, I think they're great and I love the their comedic timing to. Emily blunt is probably one of the best scene partners you can have because you can tell I feel like she was riffing a little bit too, but her riffs are really like I bet you she was real and then Ryan Gosling started riffing. But she's probably one of the best partners to have alongside because she can also return the favor. The split screen bit People didn't like that. I loved it. I liked that quite a bit. Again, you guys are thinking about this too. I liked that quite a bit. Again, you guys are thinking about this too. This movie also was like 30% satire. That's the point.
Speaker 2:Like this movie is also a satire and that scene is they're speaking the satire into existence. That's the whole point. Like, what do you think about a split screen? Split screen the movie splits and it's her on the movie set, you know, messing around with the props, and him in the hotel room just kind of chatting while he's supposed to be on this like kind of serious thing that he's doing. I really like that bit. And then the split screen, you know she hangs up. The split screen goes away. It's like a throwback. I guess that's kind of where I'm at in my life where, like I DiCaprio meme Whoop, whoop, whoop. That's a split screen. I love a good split screen.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then you know. So Colt's, basically he's trying to find out what happened to the man that he stunt doubles for Tom Ryder the most famous action star in the world.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know who Tom Ryder is. You know who he is. It's Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Speaker 2:It is Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Speaker 1:Great pick, great, great, great pick. I mean that's one of David Leitch's boys.
Speaker 2:At this point, yeah, and you also think that something's kind of off with him, like you think. But again, you don't think like anything.
Speaker 1:You don't think he's, you just think he's the victim, like maybe he's dead.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I thought. The first thought he was like, I didn't think he would be like integral to the, to the twist of the movie, but I did kind of have an idea that maybe he was behind the accident in a way, like, maybe even like incidentally behind the accident. Um, and then you find out that he's, he's killed the stuntman. Actually he, johnny cage karate, kicked his stuntman because what do you mean?
Speaker 1:I don't do my own stunts, which he still doesn't.
Speaker 2:Killed the stuntman and pins it on our guy Colt and Colt. The second half of the movie is Colt trying to On the run On the run trying to clear his good name. Not even necessarily clearing his good name, he just wants to help his girl get her movie made.
Speaker 1:What a noble and honorable thing from character work you can do. What a noble thing for a main character, even though he's on the run. He's a fugitive. We have to make this movie. All the little Jodies need you.
Speaker 2:He's still stuntmanning. There's just fun in-jokes. It makes so much sense too.
Speaker 1:On a stupid movie level, because like as much, movies are also stupid. Yes, the fact that he can fight, but it also like, but that actually makes sense. It's not dumb.
Speaker 2:Like this one actually makes the most sense goes back to um once upon a time in hollywood, right with the bruce leasing, right. Yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of like that. Um, we're like.
Speaker 1:You know, stuntmen can fight some of them know some of them actually have to learn all these things for these fights. Maybe not to like this degree, but that's the movie. It's not, but it's not outside of the realm of like sure, of like insanity like this one. I actually is a bit plausible because it's like imagine there's a movie that takes place in like an underground fight ring, like you're probably the stunt, the stunt team's probably going to get some people that know how to fight.
Speaker 2:And stuntmen are. You know, he has all these kind of crazy skills, but stuntmen are everyman. He should be able to know how to drive. He should be able to know, kind of, how to fly a helicopter. I can learn how to drive a boat.
Speaker 1:I had to do all that and his first role in this movie was he worked on the Miami Vice TV show. His first role, like in this movie was he worked on my advice tv show. So and he, you know his infamous miami. He's a great main character because, like main characters, like the iconic, like cult, classic main characters, always have like a piece of clothing that are iconic. So it's his jacket, yeah, like they always have like a lot. Or his thing is the thumbs up like the stunt guy, thumbs up like man. I wish this movie would have like performed on a grand scale, because this movie could have been an iconic one they poke a lot of fun at.
Speaker 2:like you know, she's directing this kind of. Should we just go into it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, sorry, zack Schneider, you took the biggest L in this movie. So she's directing this movie called metal storm. Yeah, yeah, this metal storm is very orange it's very orange, it's very uh like, not.
Speaker 2:I mean it's serious, it's rebel moon so all we're not even joking.
Speaker 1:They basically they just do rebel moon like they do it's. It's basically your big sci-fi summer action blockbuster that the filmmaker takes way too seriously, yeah, with way too much slow motion time riders matthew mcconaughey oh dude, aaron taylor johnson goes full mcconaughey at the end of this movie. I just wasn't expecting it too when he started delivering, because I knew he was like a little country for the character he was playing.
Speaker 2:But it was full McConaughey, down to the mannerism and the cadence.
Speaker 1:It's high noon at the edge of the universe folks.
Speaker 2:I'm like wait, what's happening here, what are you doing? But yeah, and then the conceit that they get Tom Ryder with is he can't help himself. He's well known for getting himself in trouble with hot mics. So they're like that's it, that's how we're gonna entrap him. We're gonna get him to admit what he's done on. You know, we're gonna get him uncomfortable and cole's like what's the best way to do that? But make him do his own son. And that's what they do. Um, they trap him in a car, jump. Essentially. They're like no, it's going to be great, it's a green screen, it's going to be cool. And then Ryan Gosling takes the wheel and they're off. Yeah, he sneaks back on set. Winston Duke gets all the glory, all the glory. He starts setting off explosives Stunts.
Speaker 1:This movie's cool, man, this movie's just cool. Why can't we make cool movies anymore? This movie's cool, the only thing.
Speaker 2:The only thing like like obviously I'm like poking fun at it, but like I couldn't like turn my brain off that like any human male person could overpower winston duke in a fight. Yeah, because he's just so humongous oh, that other guy was.
Speaker 1:Like a unit too he was. But like what's the dude was, yeah it.
Speaker 2:Oh, that other guy was like a unit too he was, but like Vincent Duke was. Yeah, it's funny because like it's like a brick wall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he was. He was a brick wall. And they gave him the little beanie too, which made me laugh.
Speaker 2:I don't know why that made me laugh.
Speaker 1:I'm just like. He's so endearing. Oh Vincent, right now is Winston Duke periodically giving a movie quote. The Rocky one's the best because he just puts his arm up afterwards. I was laughing so hard.
Speaker 2:You can't use Rocky on me.
Speaker 1:You can't use Rocky on me right now.
Speaker 2:No, but yeah, I really enjoyed that character. I mean, Winston Duke is great. Get him more things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. He needs to be in five things plus every single year. I love that guy, um, and let him be the main character, if that's okay, and something. Oh, I feel like he has something in him that's gonna be like a. He could put together a real performance for something, too, or something like this, like I'd take something like this too.
Speaker 2:He was against that spearhead that he was close in black panther too, man yeah, he was he was really like I'm like, oh, there's more, there's more, there's something going on with. And he was phenomenal in us as well too. Yeah, yeah, I just remember, man. I just remember. I remember watching wakanda forever and being like you know, the beginning with mbaku.
Speaker 1:I was like let's not do make the same mistake is he going to be the jokey guy of this?
Speaker 2:And then halfway through the movie he becomes.
Speaker 1:It was after Ramunda's death and he had that conversation with Sharia. That's when I knew that everybody was dialed into this movie.
Speaker 2:That's when I knew and I'm like, wait, he's acting, he's doing the acting in this and he's great in this he's acting.
Speaker 1:He's doing the acting in this, um, and he's great in this. I just think he's very seamless, like he. Yeah, he can transition in the same scene out of different things too. So, uh, like I said, I would love to see winston duke leads, like lead something and just be the definitive main in something. I think that would be awesome for him um, but yeah, I mean all, all ends make a bond, all ones.
Speaker 2:Make him Bond Make him Bond.
Speaker 1:Desmond Idris needs to play Bond oh.
Speaker 2:That's a good take. He's British.
Speaker 1:There you go, that's all you need. You saw that chess commercial he was in, that's what sold me. On him you say chess, yeah, chess commercial. Well, it wasn't a chess commercial, it was a beer commercial. I was like, wait, I don't remember, it's an alcohol commercial. But he's playing chess and he's sitting at a table and I'm like, oh yeah, that's actually James Bond.
Speaker 2:This movie's taking place in Australia. It's hilarious. Yeah, yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1:He said I got a boatload of young Australians that don't know what they're doing out there.
Speaker 2:I love that, but I mean all's well that ends well. With this movie they successfully entrap Tom. There's a hilarious third act escape that unfolds in a helicopter with Gale and she's firing off a magnum it's so 80s.
Speaker 1:Man it's so 80s. I love it.
Speaker 2:She's firing a magnum at Ryan Gosling Shoot him you idiot.
Speaker 1:That's one of the best stuntmen working in Hollywood. She points the gun at Ryan Gosling and he's like's like, it's empty, it's empty gail flips her off one of my favorite shot of the movie where he's descending down into the infamous um cushion that you'll get from any stunt team. It's awesome, it's so good metal storm gets made play the music. Maybe the best use of I was made for lovingving you by Kiss Metal Storm does get made, but Tom Ryder can't be in the movie. He's a criminal now.
Speaker 2:Okay, so the best part of the movie. There's this offhanded joke that you wouldn't even you shouldn't even pay it any mind because it's so offhanded about Jason Momoa's agent gets name dropped and like you wouldn't. Why would you think anything of that? I think it's. Stephanie. Sue's character says it right. She's like get me Jason Momoa's agent or whatever. And you're like alright Fun. They name-drop Jason Momoa. Cool, the Metal Storm thing happens. It's at Comic-Con. It's a big deal.
Speaker 1:That's like the joke throughout the whole movie. It's a huge deal. Cole Hall H.
Speaker 2:Hall H, Hall H, Big deal, Gale. They do the Metal Storm trailer. And lo and behold, Jason Momoa is in this and look look, look, look, look for one second.
Speaker 1:I would throw on this movie while I'm like doing laundry for like a couple minutes. I would also say, I'd just throw this on.
Speaker 2:That was the first thing I said when we left the theater.
Speaker 1:I said do I non-ironically want to see a Metal Storm movie? Well, I said if, because I don't. Fall Guy was universal, yeah, so if Peacock wanted to do the absolutely funniest thing on planet Earth, they make like a 10 minute short of like, but it's actually Metal Storm, yeah, and they like actually do the movie.
Speaker 2:Jason Moore, emily Blunt can direct it yeah, let her actually do it. I think that would be hilarious. And then, yeah, the movie becomes a box office smash and Colt gets exonerated. He hooks up with Jodie. They're together, all's well. That ends well. And then Tom Ryder and gail get surrounded by the the fall guy. Yeah, the original guy yeah, um, that's the movie. You know the movie.
Speaker 1:Like I said, we kind of blew through the plot, but I mean it's pretty by the numbers and it's pretty dang enjoyable it's just like I said, I don't need everything to be citizen Kane like this is, but again I say that as if this movie is not technically this movie is actually well done, because we've said this about other things and then the movie is just not well done like.
Speaker 1:This movie is actually well thought of and again I'm just I'm so proud of the fact that we can get movies like that. And again, I hate to beat a dead horse, but the fact that Top Gun came out might have been one of the most important things for modern day movies. You can't just go into these action movies anymore and just do whatever the heck you want and people receive it. They just won't. We're too smart for that anymore, so you need people like David Leitch on your movies now and again. Hollywood needs stunt people. They're some of the most important people.
Speaker 1:Make the joke in the movie, obviously. Um, the one guy goes, or the drug dealer goes. Do they give oscars out for that stuff? He's like no, no, yeah, but they should, they should, they should, and I think this year's oscar I don't know if they're gonna do this year, because this is a 97th oscars. I think that's coming up this year maybe they wait for the 100th Oscars, so it could be a big thing, but the sooner the better. We need a best stunt coordination for the Oscars.
Speaker 2:We just do. I think stunt coordination needs one, I think mo-cap needs one.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, because Andy, and then just give the first. I don't care what year it is.
Speaker 2:I don't care if Andy Serkis is in the circus and then we'll be on with it. Yeah, I think, I think we're we're long past that, um, and who knows, maybe this movie will, will, will push that direction further, because it's kind of in a in a zoom out lens perspective.
Speaker 1:I think that's kind of what david leach was setting up with this movie, like, hey, give us our, our dang recognition and our dang do um, I just I can't wait to see what he does, what he does with his career, because, I mean, now he has a super successful stunt coordination house himself which is awesome that he can use in hollywood and around the world, and I'm excited to see what right. I mean, I we know some of the next things ryan gosling's doing. Ryan gosling's a movie star because he's not making 10 movies in one year, he's making one or two and know kind of to tie it back to our normal stuff.
Speaker 2:Ryan Gosling has said he's down to do a superhero thing. I know he's mentioned Ghost Rider in the past, but I mean honestly, the guy is so malleable. I mean I don't think I could particularly like pigeonhole him in any specific role. I think, like, whatever he sunk his teeth into, I think he would nail it, which is a really cool place to be like. I think, like you could throw him into any role and he would, he would crush it.
Speaker 1:I mean, ghost riders is a great yeah, a great pick yeah, century would be good for ryan gosling too if he would play that like dual role too. But I think you need something bigger, and I think ghost rider is decently big enough to to put him in a role like that too, and that's just. We're just talking about the marvel side of things. Who knows if, if james gunn's universe is going to go off the ground, he's like get, get me one of the main roles and let's get me something in this whole thing too yeah, super, super exciting man.
Speaker 2:Um, I really like this movie a lot. Yeah, I was just.
Speaker 1:I was just like I was watching it. I was just.
Speaker 2:Everybody in the theater was just having a good time, yeah, and that's a good time at the movie and that's how you know like it's not, like you were kind of saying, like it is kind of like like plot wise. Obviously it's kind of by the numbers, but like, at the same time you can recognize like it's written smartly, a it's technically sound, like that's what makes like takes a movie like this and lets you know like this is why, like you mention this all the time, like, why, like it sounds stupid to say, but like why the crew matters Because, like any of this, in lesser hands of the hands that delivered it, it could have been like a worse movie a way worse movie, but because like disastrous, but because you had the specific people that you had both in front of and behind the camera, you get this really fun kind of two-hour, just throwback action movie.
Speaker 2:That kind of has a point yeah, and it's important, this movie.
Speaker 1:This movie is important and that's the fall guy yeah, we should give some awards out for this one. Yeah, yeah, I'm down. Definitely warrant some, some actual awards, I'm down for that. So, man, what a, what a movie. I love the movies, man, don't you?
Speaker 2:don't you love the movies of that too? Like I just go out and I see like a random movie and I'm just like, ah, yeah, fun yeah, yeah, it's good, those are the best.
Speaker 1:Those are the best where it's a movie that you know it's not some fandom movie, it's just. You know, people just go in like obviously for different reasons, but like I had that like with like the iron claw last year, like a movie where it's just like fun movie yeah yeah, notoriously fun movie about the von eric family.
Speaker 2:Best relationship in this yep, oh, you're wrong when you say what it's gonna be I mean, I I like colton jody nope, I know you're gonna say colton and winston duke's character nope, you're also wrong.
Speaker 1:What are you gonna say? It's jean-claude and colt. We didn't even talk about jean-claude the french, the french dog. That, the dog, the dog, the, the super, overly cinematic dog. Yeah, with main character bulletproof screenwriting. Yeah, yeah, awesome. No, by the way, I like colton jody. Yeah, I mean it's. It's tough not to say colton jody. Uh, most underrated character, john clogg.
Speaker 2:Stop saying john, attack it uh, I I like the the uh stephanie sue's character, her little action bit that she got in the middle of that movie. You know who I loved in this movie, the assistant director traveling oh, the australian guy, yeah, yeah, traveling oh, what did the other one say?
Speaker 1:the, the um, the one lady on set. She's like is he kind of hot? Actually he's singing the karaoke, great good stuff. Oh, I love the bit at the beginning where he's just like I will murder everybody on this set yeah, he said yeah and this is why emily blood's so great. It's just she's able to like pick up off and it's fast, she's so quick with her responses, everything like that too. Most heroic moment um, it's fast, she's so quick with her responses and everything like that too.
Speaker 2:Most heroic moment it's empty Gale, yeah, that's pretty good. I like the. I mean I guess you could say the best action bit but him and Winston Duke's character in the penthouse yeah, that's good stuff. That's classic action movie stuff that happens there. Yep, best bit Um, I like the. Just the overdramatic like monologuing that Tom Ryder's character does Like anytime he, or Aaron Taylor Johnson's character does any chance he gets. And my favorite one is the one on the pier, yeah, where he's like where's the phone. And he's like Ryan, goss, he's like that's the thing he shot it out of my hands.
Speaker 1:He's like. He's like incredible shot by your henchman there. This movie did have henchmen. They had this movie's so self-aware, it's great. Um, what did I say? The best bit was earlier. Oh, the the movie lines, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said what movie? Last of the Mohegans? Yes, yes, best battle, metal Storm.
Speaker 2:Metal Storm. I like the penthouse fight.
Speaker 1:He said at this point in the movies this would be when the bad guys attack Winston Duke read the script. This is awesome. Oh yeah he said, if this was Die Hard, this would be one of the villains.
Speaker 2:And then when Ryan Gosling's recanting the story to to Dan and or to Jody, and he's like, he's like. And then Dan grabbed the tomahawk and I wanted the tomahawk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just. But we were. What's my best battle? The boat chase? No, no, I quite enjoy the street chase.
Speaker 2:I love the street chase.
Speaker 1:During karaoke was great, and then the song choice by Phil Collins was also god tier.
Speaker 2:It had the right amount of Fast and Furious lunacy.
Speaker 1:But like still technically sound yeah, yeah, favorite cameo.
Speaker 2:Jason Momoa man.
Speaker 1:Just nuts, I can't believe they actually did it. That's what I keep saying. It's like no, I can. Well, I thought what they were going to do is get somebody to be like Jason Momoa, but not actually be Jason. So it's like in-universe, but they actually just had to be Jason Momoa.
Speaker 2:I mean that's the thing, though, you can't anyone that's like jason mamoa besides, ain't nobody like me set me, as rocket rickman once said, and that's jason mamoa's mo. That guy loves a cameo. Yeah, man, remember the flash cameo yeah, yep, drunk aquaman, drunk aquaman.
Speaker 1:No, that was just jason mamoa he showed, so was this best set?
Speaker 1:uh metal sword, yeah metal sword can I go like actual, like you know, quasi real world-ish? Um, it's, it's the uh, the, the montage sequence in the middle after he tries to tell jody that like a man was murdered. But she's just like I don't need tom, I just need you. And he's like, oh, does she mean me or me? And then they, they shoot the scene and I'm like that's just movie magic, which is great, and just directing, doing directors doing directing stuff. That's what I like. I like that little bit right there oh yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:I like the.
Speaker 1:This movie unironically did a great third act desert sequence if you told me that I was getting three third act desert sequences this year, I would have been like that's a lot. But then 2024 happened. I was like that's adequate, I guess so I quite like that. Like they made good use of the the desert yeah, stunts best one v one uh the uh winston duke versus versus a big, big goon, big redhead guy when he gets strung up at the end there and he's like hey oi, oi, let me in.
Speaker 1:Is it Ryan Gosling versus the lead actress for Metal Storm? Because it also has the best joke in this movie too, and I'm going to save it for the best joke. I just like it because that's when I knew what type of movie this was Like. This was like hand to hand what type of movie this was gonna be and it also showed to our point from earlier. It also shows like the lunacy of, like a, like the random guy being able to fight trope is gone, like the neo from. You know, the neo from uh, that's my brain not working neo from the matrix yeah, from the matrix thing is like gone.
Speaker 1:It's like, oh wait, he's actually a stunt guy, so obviously he might need to be able to fight a little but also they're fighting with prop weapons, right, but he doesn't realize that at first. So it's like and then in your brain is like a moviegoer that knows what this movie is about. You're also like, oh, shoot. And then it's like, oh, of course, that's what I like best. Heat check performance john claude get john claude.
Speaker 2:Um. Funny enough. I think it's the mcconaug imitation.
Speaker 1:That's such an outside-the-box you check. Is it Jason Momoa? Yeah, it might be. That's like sitting for like 46 minutes of an NBA game and then checking in for the last two and just hitting 7-3. Yeah, but the guy who checked in was Michael Jordan, right, why was he not playing the other 46 minutes? We don't know.
Speaker 2:Because you can't have too much of him. You've got to deploy Jason Momoa at precisely the right time and it works. He's Gandalf A wizard, arrives never early nor late. He arrives precisely when he means to, and that's Jason Momoa Throwing a couple yahoos and he's in a cowboy hat. He did do a yahoo and not a half-hearted forge yahoo either. Yahoo Get lost.
Speaker 1:Forge Shut up, nerd. Funniest moment this movie's funny man. This movie is funny. This is a tough one.
Speaker 2:I quite like I like the. The pier scene is hilarious to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the pier scene's good.
Speaker 2:Because it's so Everybody needs glucose. It's so over-the-top.
Speaker 1:Bonneville, and he even calls it out.
Speaker 2:He calls it out, yeah, um what is the funniest moment?
Speaker 1:I like the the best joke itself is when I love, love, love, when they're doing the first fight with the lead actress from Metal Storm and he's just like I'm in Metal Storm 2. He's just like lies. Metal Storm 2 hasn't come out yet. We're on Metal Storm, he's on Metal Storm also.
Speaker 2:That's good stuff.
Speaker 1:I don't know, man, what is the funniest moment this movie's funny man.
Speaker 2:I like when she beats him up in the trailer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2:When he's in the suit. That's good stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh, what am I saying? I think the funniest moment is when he's tripping on drugs and then the unicorn shows up. That's good stuff. Best exposition dump.
Speaker 2:Is it the Metal Storm monologue?
Speaker 1:That's too inside the box or outside the box. I mean, it's when the master plan gets revealed.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, best source material callback the original Fall Guys. The original Fall Guys Stunts, stunts, yeah, stunts, that's like a thing. Best NPC oh, this is actually an easy one. It's from when Jodie's beating the. Oh, what am I saying? The funniest moment in this movie was Jodie's monologue about her excursions after she broke up with Colt. But the best NPC was the one alien sitting down when they were going through this. I had a similar situation when I fell in love with my wife's sister. She's like ah, give me the mic, give me the mic back, get him a bullhorn. Yeah, get him a bullhorn. Traveling I love movies, man. They're the coolest, funniest thing ever.
Speaker 2:Um, favorite action sequence uh, I think it's uh the what you were talking about the karaoke car chase it's good, it it's, it's fun. I told you it has. It has just the right amount of fast and furious lunacy for me.
Speaker 1:Um, man, a third act is tough to beat. That third act, like the boat chase is also good, the boat chase is good. And then, like you think, the movie is about to end, and then there's another third act upon the third act, it's good. Um, yeah, that, that, that final fight, I mean because it's so prolonged too, like after the, after they do the jump, and then it's just all the all, just the happenings of a the most normal movie set. You can ask for best song uh probably the karaoke song yeah, shout out.
Speaker 1:Phil collins, that was great. That was good stuff. Um, the thunderstruck needle drop during the opening title card that they waited for like 20 minutes to put in was also good. I did enjoy that as well too. Not bad Favorite musical moment, so actual. I'll say the remix that was made for Loving you when he gets out of the water, because that was such an action, no, like a real world action movie star thing to do.
Speaker 2:Metal Storm Metal Storm favorite line um, favorite line. I kind of like the um when they're in the car together, like after the after, like day one, and she's like I'm the director, you're a stunt guy, we need to keep it super profesh. He's like profesh is my middle name and it just invoked the ken, the kenism. I thought your middle name was danger, that's my stage name stage name.
Speaker 2:It just invoked the the kennergy, if you will that ron gosling possesses now, I think, like a piece of ken stayed with him and that's just partially who he is now forever. That's not bad um, what is?
Speaker 1:it's empty gail. It's so simple, but it's like the best line to give somebody, while you flip them off, while they're about to go to jail, while you jump out of a helicopter, while your love of your life looks at you doing the coolest thing on earth. He is the main character we're. We're just living in Ryan Gosling's world.
Speaker 2:No, you know who the best going back, the best NPC is? It's the drug dealer, yeah yeah, yeah, he was great.
Speaker 1:He was great Because he's like the first non-violent drug dealer in movie history. He's like sit down.
Speaker 2:He's like nobody ever wants to talk to the drug dealer guy yeah, he's like they paid me to do a man.
Speaker 1:I didn't even want to do this man. He's like actually enjoying talking about stunt work. Yeah, he's like a d. That guy also was in furiosa, was he really? He was, I was so happy I said, oh wait, and he played this. He played similarly a guy. No, I guess it wasn't similar.
Speaker 2:But he goes no offense, but I, for I prefer cartoons movies. That was the same thing as when, like uh, ben kingsley was talking about planet of the apes. But he goes no offense, but I prefer, I prefer cartoons. Movies are always trying to make things real.
Speaker 1:That was the same thing as when, like uh, ben Kingsley was talking about planet of the apes and Shang Chi. It's the same exact thing where he's like when I saw a Dumbo man my life changed.
Speaker 2:Movies are always trying to make things real, but it's not real. It's a movie.
Speaker 1:It's not meant. Cartoons don't pretend to be real. That's a bar, the drug dealer, ladies and gentlemen, favorite world building, or lore moment, paul h, paul h, big deal, it's a big deal. It's a big deal um 87 north, as like a thing that's also in universe and like that's a real thing.
Speaker 2:I think it's yeah cool yeah favorite shot uh, probably the when he falls out of the helicopter. It's just the coolest thing. It's so good sometimes it's.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it's okay to be cool, it's fine, you could just be a cool thing.
Speaker 2:Favorite performance uh, colt severs yeah, colt severs as a character yeah, um, but no no, no, it's tom rider playing the main character of Metal Storm.
Speaker 1:You know what I hate? This is the best bit in the movie. You know what I loved when he would do a little bit of acting and they're all like I hate that guy, but he sure can act. It's like I hate this guy so much, but he sure can bring it every time he's here.
Speaker 2:I also do kind of like that, where he's actually talented, the character of himself is actually talented, he's actually like talented, yeah, like the character of himself is actually talented, right, um, but no favorite performance, uh, I mean, I, I really like I, you know, I'm gonna say emily blunt, I really am mine.
Speaker 1:You beat me by two seconds. I was also gonna say her.
Speaker 1:I thought she was great, I thought she was really good because she also brings like this, like plucky stick to it, of go-getter attitude to anything she's in and anything she does yeah and it's like you can't help not but root for emily blunt when she's in a thing, yeah, like even in oppenheimer at the end it's just like he shook his hand and then it like flash forwards 20 years. She's like I bet you did wish they built a bigger bomb anyway. Um, favorite before. I mean it's it's just tough not to say ryan gosling. It's just I just can't in this mean it's just tough not to say Ryan Gosling, I just can't in this one. Sometimes it's simple, yeah, and this is one of the things that are simple. Favorite character John Claude.
Speaker 2:Jason Momoa no, I, the original Fall Guy. I really liked the Cold Sea Risk character I thought he was, even though he looked Like I said he looked uncannily like Logan Paul. I still said he looked uncannily like logan paul. I still I still like the. I still like the cold sea of his character a lot. Like I said, I think in in lesser hands that character could have been really grating and dumb, but ryan gosling brings the right amount of charm to it that makes him like a really cool action movie protagonist yeah, I mean I'll just remix your best performance and then I'll I'll say jody for this one.
Speaker 1:I think Jodi is like she subverts the whole. Like I said earlier, she subverts everything that like we hate about. You know how Hollywood portrays woman, characters that are woman like it's just all. Somehow Hollywood seemed to only get it wrong and only made them weak, and she is anything but that. She still got her movie made, which is great. Hall h, hall h gail, it's a big deal favorite moment uh metal storm no um man.
Speaker 1:I liked, I, I loved. I loved like the getting ready for like the last part of the third act where, like the crane swoops down like hey, my favorite moment is like a prolonged thing throughout the movie and it's like the actual movie making within the movie making.
Speaker 2:It's like the inception of yeah, that's my favorite moment and my favorite thing about this movie is like the inception not like the inception, but like the movie inception of the fall guy yeah, I like, I think I think my favorite moment is kind of like off your point, like that third act where, like everyone, that's like we've learned about to this point, like they're all getting ready to use their skills for, like this really elaborate entrapment of this guy and like because, like Jody's like calling the shots, dan is getting his stunt team ready and then Cole is obviously doing the thing and it's just like a perfect, like stamp on all these characters' journeys throughout this movie.
Speaker 1:They're doing their thing. Yeah, they all get to do their thing. The joke is action directing, Colt's action heroing and Dan's action stunting.
Speaker 2:It's great, what a movie, what a picture. I really liked it.
Speaker 1:This is a picture we're going to put, so we're going to have to categorize movies now. They're either going to be a movie, a film or a picture, and this is going in the picture category because of how technically great this movie is. This is a picture.
Speaker 2:I can't argue with that.
Speaker 1:Top Gun is a film, film like morbius. Yeah, morbius is, unfortunately, like you know, the highest honor that you can get here is being a picture like these are like the pictures of the olden days. Yeah, I mean, yeah, so like dune part two is a picture. Yeah, that's a picture. The flash, that's a movie, that's. We need something below movies.
Speaker 2:Oh uh, straight to dvd I'm not, I was gonna say.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say it's something, it's something okay, so the lowest you can be is straight to DVD or something. There's five tiers that you get.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I feel like if you're straight to DVD, there's still a modicum of enjoyment that you can get out of a straight to DVD movie.
Speaker 1:I guess we also have to add you're a Project Infinite cult classic, Because Hollywood already has their cult classics. You need to be like what's one of our cult classics? Venom? Yeah, Venom's one of our cult classics. Is no Time to Die one of our cult classics? Or is that like a movie? I think that's a movie. I think that's a movie.
Speaker 2:Or is it a film?
Speaker 1:Because the picture category needs to be unironic and ironic. Dune goes there for unironic and ironic, like dune goes there for like unironic reasons, like yeah, but I also could put madame webb there for ironic reasons. No, no, I'll remix the point madame webb obviously needs to go into straight to dvd yeah that's the worst.
Speaker 2:You can be right on this, I think so, yeah, like if you're something that just means like you got, you got. You got you got moxie kid. Like if you're something, it's like it probably wasn't good, but like something, something's in there, something like it, because you're like, you know, that was like. I feel like the flash, weirdly enough, is like the definition of that, because, like we talked about it. Like it's something, like it's not good, yeah, but like there's something in there that like was sort of good, whereas like there's something in there that was sort of good, whereas there's certain things that have no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and presumably Madam Web's one of those things. I don't think I'll leave watching Madam Web being like that was something. I'll just be like. That was exactly what I thought it was.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah, I definitely I'll put this in the film category. This is this is a film. Yeah, this is a film. Top Gun is like a picture. Dune Part 2 is a picture. This is a film. Like what the Eternals is like a movie. Like that's a movie. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like you said, the Flash is like that was something, it's something. And then Madam Web is straight to DVD. Yeah, that's a great tier list Into the bin. That's nice, don't we need a cult classic, venom. So that's in the middle. That's like that's the middle, or should that be at the top? Because it's like our cult classics Like Venom, like Fast X oh yeah, fast X, that's like that's the, that's the, that's the project infinite cult classics, like you know how, like they have, like the turner classic movies, like we have our project infinite cult class.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, and venom, venom and fast x like the first two that's a great.
Speaker 1:That's a great list. Honestly, what's another film?
Speaker 2:uh, another film avatar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I would like wait Avatar 1's like. Hmm, avatar 1's like a film, but like Avatar 2 is like a pic. That's a picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you have heart you're a picture. Let's get it done. Let's get it done. Buddy what was he doing, I don't know. And then he vanished again.
Speaker 1:He did vanish again and he'll be back. He'll be back For Avatar 3. Yeah, Time travel. Quaritch, I need you to shoot a Sha Kang.
Speaker 2:Well, that's it, we did it, we did it. The Fall Guy it was great. Go see it. Yeah, while it's still in theaters. Please, please, please, because it's really good. That's going to do it for us this week. Amazing, another amazing episode in the books. You can follow us on Twitter at ProjectIonFunderscorePod. You can follow us on Facebook. You can follow us on Instagram. That's the Project Infinite Pod. Next week we're going to talk about the Acolyte. Maybe, who knows? Probably the first two or three episodes, depending on when we record next week.
Speaker 1:How many episodes is this season? Nine, is it that many? It's either six or nine. Let's see. I don't think it's. I felt like it was longer than Because Ahsoka was eight episodes or six episodes. I think Ahsoka was eight episodes or six episodes.
Speaker 2:I think Ahsoka was eight episodes Uh-huh, it is eight episodes the Acolytes, so it'll be wrapping up on July 16th. Solid reviews yeah, I haven't taken the time to watch them yet, but I've heard the first two episodes are pretty good and it does some interesting things, which is what I always say I want out of Star Wars Do something different, do something interesting, and that seems to be what they're doing with the Appalachian, so we'll probably talk about that next week In lieu of anything else that might happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, june's, loaded June's loaded Cam yeah we're getting ready. What are you looking forward to most in June?
Speaker 2:Probably House of the Dragon.
Speaker 1:It's got to be the bear.
Speaker 2:Bear. But yeah, I'm ready for House of the Dragon.
Speaker 1:Same. Can we find a way to bring Corlys back?
Speaker 2:No, his brother, oh, not Corlys Vaemon, vaemon Velaryon, the goat Goat.
Speaker 1:Put him in a flashback. We're actually going to review that scene. We're going to deconstruct that scene and why it's the best scene in TV history. If you can't prove me right, don't bring me anything from the Sopranos, from the White, don't care, breaking Bad doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:That is no true, valerian.
Speaker 1:This man was beside himself. I told you exactly what happened. He was reading the script and he's like I've been a minor character this whole time. And then he read it and he's like are they looking at me? Is this scene for me?
Speaker 2:He went for it and it paid off. It did pay off. It was incredible. But, yeah, probably House of the Dragon, we're getting into the good stuff now. We're getting into the spectacle of the, of the, of the. The season's going to be a big war, a big war for the whole season. It's basically what we're getting, what we're doing, and we've never done that in game of Thrones. Game of Thrones always did. You know they, they reserved their big battle for one episode of a season. Be like, here's the big battle, episode, um, but the season is going to be like a war, like fought on multiple theaters of war. We're going back to Winterfell. We got Starks. We got Starks coming this season, which I'm excited about. Do you think we're going to be as stupid? No, we'll see TBD Dragons. Dragons are going to fight Big dragon battles. I think it's going to be really, really good.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, house of the Dragon comes out June 16th, same day as the Bear, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2:Oh, the Bear might be a little bit after, and House of the Dragon is also, I think, eight episodes.
Speaker 1:So we'll see June 27th for the Bear. So we're going to get House of the Dragon, then we're gonna get the Bear. The Boys is in there. The Boys is also in there as well too. Shout out.
Speaker 2:June, is Homelander finally gonna get his co-op? No, no, he's not. No, but yeah, that's gonna do it for us this week.
Speaker 1:I know what you're gonna wanna say and just and just don't do it.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Don't do it.
Speaker 2:What From me and from the.
Speaker 1:Don't do it, don't do it. There's a person you could call me that could really make me happy about what I want to do, and there's somebody that you can call me and that's going to be really bad.
Speaker 2:You got to be real careful. Fury, the Jody of the podcast.
Speaker 1:Yes, you chose right, because you could have said Dan, and then we would have had an issue. Stunts, those movie quotes, man, were killing me.
Speaker 2:They were killing me. That was good stuff. We'll see you next week for the Acolyte most likely. Until then, goodbye Peace.
