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130 - Previewing 2025: HBO's Slate & D23 Recap!
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We are back to our regularly scheduled programming this week without a guest as Court and I dissect all the announcements made at D23! From Star Wars, to Pixar, to of course Marvel Studios, we break down all the major announcements and trailers that we weren’t supposed to see but did. We also tackle some non-D23 related news up top including a surprising Kraven trailer. Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
01:13 HBO Max Sizzle Reel Recap
11:57 Kraven the Hunter Looks…Good?
16:07 Borderlands Movie BOMBS
19:12 James Cameron Working on a Terminator Movie
20:24 What If…? Ending, Eternals 2 & Armor Wars Scrapped, Blade in Danger
29:58 D23 Recap: Marvel Studios (Movies)
57:25 Disney & Pixar
01:14:30 Star Wars
01:25:34 Marvel Television Including DAREDEVIL
01:45:35 Signing Off!!
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Speaker 2:Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Project Infinite Podcast, the podcast covering the infinite and ever-expanding multiverse of fandom For movies, comics, tv shows, video games. We got you covered. I'm Rob. I'm here, as always, with Court, court's just the two of us again this week. Don't get spoiled. We can't have a guest every week. We can't afford it, it's not in the budget. Not, yet Not yet. The Q3 is looking good, though you might get a guest for Q3. Yeah, so you're stuck with us again.
Speaker 2:Back to your regularly scheduled programming after our House of the Dragon recap episode last week. Shout out to Emily. Yeah, we brought our friend Emily on and we had a nice fun time. It was a good chat. Talking about Season 2 of House of the Dragon, talking about yeah, that was all we talked about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 2:It was good stuff, it was a great discussion.
Speaker 2:I had a great time me too, um, but what we neglected to talk about, um before we did that was the little hbo sizzle reel that played before the season finale, which I had completely forgot that they did that, um, because I remember they did do it at the for the season finale of house of the dragon, season one. They did the same thing, like they sizzled up um their 2025 slate, because house of the dragon ends, um in august, so there's only four months left in the year. So they their eyes turned towards 2025 and I mean, you know, in case you, I guess it was also kind of like for me and hopefully for other people, it was like one of those like, in case you forgot, hbo is still like the king of this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as far as like prestige tv and original con not original, you know what I mean. Like the, these are bigger ips, but just quality wise, it's just their top dogs when it comes to quality. Apple tv is knocking on the door too, but I think hbo max still has the, still has the.
Speaker 2:That that cute, that top tier level that you're looking for yeah, and I mean, um, I couldn't even remember all the stuff that they rattled off. Obviously, penguin was on there, uh, white lotus was on there and then you know, um, the big one that they ended on was the last of us. Yeah, um, season two, little little, minor little teaser, um, it was more like to me it read like a um, those who know kind of teaser trailer, um, because it's like the meme of um of waltz uh, waltz, brother-in-law, from from breaking bad yeah, yeah, um, because it didn't give really anything away as far as like story or exposition, but it gave us a lot of like iconic bits.
Speaker 2:If you're familiar with the last of us, part two, um, including um. We got quick look at abby, um and jesse, and then a couple shots of dina, you know, um, and we got the looks like we're gonna get the dance hall sequence from jackson. Yeah, um, at one point, some new stuff too. A couple new stuff a couple new things.
Speaker 1:But I mean we can just kind of talk other shows before. Maybe we can dive into the Last of Us a little bit. But got another quick look at the Penguin. I mean we've already had two trailers for it. I'm in that universe is just very thought out. Matt Reeves is kind of guiding them along the way until we get to the Batman part two, so I'm in on that. Colin Farrell I mean multiple time Oscar nominee. I mean it's one of the best actors on the planet. He's going to hold this show together, so I'm really looking forward to it. I love the ambiguous Italian crime families that are just around in Gotham in this universe. It makes me laugh. They're cool. What else did we get? We got the Game of Thrones, another Game of Thrones spinoff show. What's the name of that one?
Speaker 2:Night of the seven kingdoms. It is based on the series of short stories, um of the same name, chronicling the journeys of a duo known as duncan egg, um, sir duncan the tall, and a young agon, the fourth, uh, targaryen, who kind of comes into his care, um, and it's, I guess. I guess I can explain it as simple. You know, it's another one of these Mandalorian Logan, like along that line of you know, man takes young person under his wing and they journey together, right.
Speaker 1:Is the best way I can explain it, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know a lot of people in the Thrones circle have been excited to see this story adapted into live action. Again, it takes place out of a time period that we've seen on TV to this point. It takes place about 100 years after the conclusion of House of the Dragon, which would put it about 100-ish years before the start of Game of Thrones. So it's another thing in a long line of HBO Game of Thrones spinoffs. I know they have some animated stuff on the way and they have a couple more live-action things on the way too, which I'm super excited for, and I'm glad that this one's going to kind of dampen the blow of having to wait two years for house of the dragon, in the sense that they're taking like a um, what was it star wars used to do?
Speaker 2:this yeah, where you know year on, year off, kind of like your main thing and then like your side thing. So I'm kind of glad that we're gonna get night at the seven kingdom next year and then house of the dragon 2026 and you know, so on and so forth. So I think that's really cool.
Speaker 1:This Jon Snow show is still. I'll start saying that three times fast, is it?
Speaker 2:still a thing. I think it's been shelved at the moment. What has Kit Harington done to anybody? Well, I know he kind of came out. He had an interview with, I think, gq this last week where he talked about kind of what happened with Game of Thrones Season 8 and he just basically said, you know, he agrees that there are some story shortcomings. But he said, pretty much speaking for himself, he just said he was tired by the time they got around to filming season eight of Game of Thrones. He said he feels you can see it in his performance as well in season eight that he was just kind of exhausted. And then he did speak to his role in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. He said he hasn't heard anything. As far as, like, the future of dane whitman, he said he, you know, he didn't. He didn't even go into eternals expecting or wanting to like be a part of, like a bigger universe.
Speaker 1:He's lying, I think he's laughing he's lying through his teeth for that one. I think he knew that he he had a chance to, you know, be an avenger at some point. I think, think that's probably, and you know, to go to the we're going to talk about the Eternals at some point, but, you know, going to the fact that they just can't get this off the ground, like again, I know he's tired, I know he's done a lot of things, but Kit Harington, that's a sell. That guy is a sell and he can get you. You know, guy is a sell and he can get you.
Speaker 1:You know, I always talk about it put butts in seats. Kate harrington's a guy that gets you butts in seats. So I'd love to see this john snow show. Um, you kind of probably will approach it like the rick and michonne show for the for the walking dead universe, because obviously this is post post-mortem, like this is game of thrones. It's already, you know, it's already gone. We've, we've passed it. Obviously house of the dragon is kind of taking precedence, but it's a prequel. You're finally doing something in the future of like a—how would you approach it? Like an old, gunslinger-esque kind of Jon Snow a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think. Also, I think HBO might be a little nervous to try and do something that's off— like, obviously the last three seasons of Game of Thrones were kind of away from— out of the source material, because George RR Martin hasn't written the books yet. But if you're going to talk about something that even goes beyond that, you're talking about a creative liberty at work that we really haven't seen before, whereas a network is going to come in and be like nah, we're going to do almost essentially a fan fiction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, right, right, and that's a dangerous game, because I've already played that before and we see how it went.
Speaker 2:So yeah, um, but as far as this hbo scissor reel goes, we got uh dune prophecy.
Speaker 1:How are we feeling about dune prophecy?
Speaker 2:um, I mean, I'm intrigued by it. I don't know, I don't know. Dune is interesting, right like I don't know if it has that marvel star wars gravitas like people are super into the expansion of the lore, to the point that they'd watch a spinoff show.
Speaker 1:I'm going to expand on your point and I'm going to it's kind of like it's devil's advocate, but I'm also agreeing with you. My agreeing with you is to that point of like I don't know the expansion of where Dune can get to. The expansion of where Dune can get to, not of where they can get to where they are right now, like I don't know if they counted their chips too early. However, and also to go further on the you know, playing devil's advocate, what I'll say is I think Dune 2 helped a lot. I mean, dune 2 made how much? 800 million, 800 million.
Speaker 1:You had four of the biggest movie stars in the world, young movie stars in the world, young movie stars in the world in that movie. Like every, I felt like everybody was talking about that movie when it came out in March. Now it's the, it's also the penguin thing. Like what's my reason to watch this show? Like, if I don't watch the show, am I not going to get it? I'm going to have the same feeling of when I watched, you know, when I watched the movies. Like don't have to watch that, I have to watch it, like nothing's going to change.
Speaker 1:So that's what I think they need to add. My only it's not a criticism or anything like that, but like I think they should have went after a name to be in that show to kind of help it out a little bit and I think that's what helps penguin a little bit of the fact that it is colin farrell. Like you probably should have got a name to be in that show, to be somebody, whether it be and I mean you got mark Strong to play, I forget which ancestor of Shaddam IV he's playing but you probably could have went after somebody to be like hey, we need you to headline this show, and HBO's usually really good with that too.
Speaker 2:I mean, they did it with the Last of Us. First and foremost, they did it with Guy Ganon. You know, bill Ramsey was a known-ish name, but Pedro Pascal was the big get Right. But going back to game of thrones, they also did it with game of thrones and they casted sean bean as ned stark right, yeah, and he was like the star right, like there was no one else in that show.
Speaker 2:I mean, michelle fairley had done some things in britain, um peter dinklage was kind of on the ascent, but he wasn't quite there yet and all the kids were unknowns yep, um, so that's, that's what thrones did, but, sean being, they were like you're, this is you're our workhorse essentially until we, until we get everybody off the ground yeah, so yeah, I I agree with that point. I think that's a. That's a great point. Um, harley quinn, we got a you know some news that show is still fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so much fun I really enjoy. I have to catch up on that show, but it's just. Every time I put that on, it's just I'm I'm laughing my butt off. It's good stuff.
Speaker 2:The it spinoff, welcome to Derry looks properly horror, right, but again I'm starting to notice a pattern. Not starting to notice a pattern, but obviously the trend has set in of spinning off things into prestige TV shows, things into TV, into prestige TV shows, and I just feel like it's going to go. It feels like it's going to go the same way that everyone, when every movie studio, wanted a cinematic universe. It feels like that's kind of like a lot of these are probably only going to be like one and dones, and then they're going to realize like maybe we just stick to making movies about this stuff instead of TV shows you know what I mean and the movies are back.
Speaker 2:Like, like, I'm not even in a joking sense the movies are very much back. Well, yeah, we'll get there, um. But yeah, we just wanted to hit the hbs stuff. But I know this is probably a little late in the game to to tell you what our main topic is today, because it's about 10 minutes in. But we are going to recap d23. Obviously, um, we were probably good, we were going to try and do d23 and the boys, but then d23 was just like yeah, yeah, here's everything, here's everything, um. And then trailers got leaked to the point where, like, I feel comfortable talking about them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think it's. They're all public now. I mean, they're all on. They were all on twitter, as if the studio themselves posted the trailers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nothing's gotten taken down. Taken down. Nothing's gotten copyrighted.
Speaker 1:I think that was on purpose by them too, but then just release the trailers, right, right.
Speaker 2:If you're going to whatever. So yeah, we are going to talk about everything D23, but we do have some non-D23 related news. First and foremost, we got a shock drop Kraven trailer earlier today.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, all right, listen. All right, listen, walk with me. So I was watching this trailer, right, it's not like Sony has some incredible track, it's not the Godfather. Let's just say that you were about to say it's better. But let me stop you right there. I'm watching this Craven trailer and I'm like, okay, this is Craven. Should I care? I don't know. And then the trailer kept going. I was like, wait a second, this doesn't look horrible. And then it kept going. I was like am I kind of like intrigued? And then I kept watching. I was like, wait a minute, I am intrigued.
Speaker 2:And then the rhino showed up and I was like wait a second, does this look? This look cool. It looks very cool. Um, it looks properly violent yeah, yeah, yeah yep, um, it's a just. It just appears to be a severe. Appears to be, I say appears to be. It appears to be a severe. Appears to be, I say appears to be. It appears to be a severe detachment from the other Sony, marvel stuff that they've done.
Speaker 1:It's almost like they said let's just make a movie and not worry about Venom, or should have put Morbius in there, not worry about Morbius. Anybody like that. They just said let's just make a movie and not have to worry about any sort of universe. Anybody like that. They just said let's just make a movie and not have to worry about any sort of universe. Anything like that Like got Aaron, aaron Taylor Johnson, you got Russell Crowe. Like let's just have a little bit of fun, let's make this super violent, like you said. Like let's just try to have a good time, make a movie and just see what happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd be more interested in this movie if it wasn't a comic book movie Like if this was just a movie about some hunter guy that was raised in the Serengeti and he turned into like this lunatic. I'd be like I feel like I would really enjoy that movie Like, but knowing it's it's a Craven movie, I'm just like there's going to have to be a, a Marvelism at some point.
Speaker 1:You know what the question I some point. You know what the question I keep asking myself. It's like, can I detach it? Because, like I feel like the expectation now is I have to go in and be like this thing is going to be sonified in the, in the sony verse, and then like part of me is like, what if I just watch this as like a thing?
Speaker 2:yeah, just let it, let it, let it be its own yeah, and I I gotta say like this this trailer, I feel like was a massive, massive, massive improvement on the first trailer. Obviously, the movie got delayed because they wanted to. The election, but they wanted to reshoot some stuff and I think I read some type of article or maybe it was a tweet that said like internally apparently Sony is really, really happy with this movie and they're really they're going to submit it for an.
Speaker 2:Oscar, aren't they? They're really, you know, I think they're really. They're gonna submit it for an oscar, aren't they? They're really, you know, I think they're really, they're really excited about the finished product and that maybe that's to your point, that maybe they, maybe they are kind of getting away from like trying to do like their own sony cinematic universe and they're just making these standalone, kind of one-off things that are loosely based, or you know, on on characters that they still have, you know, some type of relationship with hypno hustler movie.
Speaker 1:I think that's happening. Come on, man, give me my hypno hustle, my my one marvel comic for the hypno hustler.
Speaker 2:Give me the comic, give me the movie and then I mean, I guess on the other, like the flip side of things, like to the marvel side of things, like I did see that apparently as part of like the agreement that sony has with marvel and vice versa, um, any characters that sony uses in their standalone films, marvel can then not use in the mcu.
Speaker 1:Wow, I didn't know that yeah, so the venom thing it gets cut. I think they're gonna probably try to share venom, like they're gonna I to re-cut a deal.
Speaker 2:I think everything is it's negotiable, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think everything is a handshake agreement.
Speaker 2:Spider-man was that Right, let's make money. Spider-man's, technically on loan from Sony. So apparently that starts to dry up the well of Spider-Man villains that the MCU can use, when you consider that Mor morbius has been done. Uh, madame webb, rhino, craven, um, will apparently all not be in the mcu at this point, but I think they are circling kingpin to be the spider-man antagonist.
Speaker 1:I mean we let's, let's, wait till we talk about, yeah, the the blank trailer trailer to talk about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Speaking of the movies being back, Borderlands came out. Oh dude.
Speaker 1:And I mean it just Did you have the same thing? When you woke up in the morning and you were just like, oh wait, there was a Borderlands movie that came out this Friday. Because that's exactly what I have, I looked and I was like wait, oh right, that's the Borderlands movie.
Speaker 2:But they didn't mark it. I looked, I was like wait, oh right, that's the Borderlands movie, but they didn't mark it. Nope, nope, and we're back.
Speaker 1:We're back to these video game adaptations. Rob, if you were to ask me what that movie debuted at on Rotten Tomatoes, what would you say?
Speaker 2:Give me like a you know, just a good guess. I mean, if I didn't know the answer, I probably would have said I don't know like 40, like 35, 40 it debuted at a zero percent on rotten tomato.
Speaker 1:That's wild to me. Um, I see the immediate reactions I kept seeing was madame webb might not be the worst movie of this year and I said there's no shot. There's just, there's no earthly shot yeah, I mean it's just.
Speaker 2:I mean obviously I haven't seen it. Um, it felt it. Just knowing who's in it, it felt hilariously miscast and just it's just. All the wrong lessons were learned, all the wrong lessons from. We were starting to get a little bit of respect in the video game adaptation community for movies and TV shows. I mean we've had a pretty decent run. We had the Last of Us, obviously, which is probably the spearhead of the heights to which these things can ascend to. We had Uncharted, which was fun. Uncharted was a good fun time.
Speaker 1:We've got this Ghost of Tsushima movie in the winds.
Speaker 2:Yep that Chad Sahowski is doing. And then this one is just like it's just like all the wrong lessons that studios have taken over the last few years of like, don't adapt these weird kind of niche loosely like narrative games to film, and you don't do it like, and to that point, like because I I don't really have any much exposure to borderlands, but you told me, like that's kind of what the game is.
Speaker 1:It's not like a, a plot game. You're not really going too much, no, you're so the now you're playing. You're playing in that game of thrones, in that john snow show territory. It's like, well, now we have to make a story out of this and but keep the borderlands elements. That's why fallout the show, fallout work is another one I forgot because, they still had to operate in the confines of lore.
Speaker 1:That's what you're kind of, your North Star is lore, like that's what you have to prioritize, and then fit story and character into the lore and kind of have it play with that. Obviously, we haven't seen the movie yet. We might think it's 100%. We don't know, but you know just from you know what a bunch of reviews are saying, like that's just not the case. This movie is just not realized. It's a mess, it's unfortunate. It made $15 million. Oh yeah, I saw the money I said no shot.
Speaker 2:Done Dead, get away. We're never going to see this franchise again Until they build a bigger Borderlands. And yeah, that's the beginning, grand opening, grand closing, and then you know a couple other things that we had. So, jim Cameron, james Cameron.
Speaker 1:Jim Cameron, jim Carrey.
Speaker 2:Our friend Jim.
Speaker 1:Our friend Jim.
Speaker 2:Has confirmed that he's still working on a Terminator movie. Yo, he's cooking. He is indeed cooking right now.
Speaker 1:confirm that he's still working on a terminator movie. He's cooking, he's, he is indeed cooking right now. I love, you know, because I think in like 10, 15, 20 years time, denis is gonna be, especially after he makes rendezvous with rama, like and doing, doing part three, like he's gonna be the definitive you know sci-fi guy of our generation. James cameron still, he still has something to say about that. We're going to talk about Avatar 3 in a little bit. Give me anything he wants, we'll take. I don't care what it is, I'll be there no matter what. I just watched Terminator 2 the other day. It's one of the best movies of all time. I love that movie more than you can ever know.
Speaker 2:Hopefully he's got. The last couple Terminator movies haven't been bad. No, no, I don't think they've that movie more than you can ever know. Yeah, yeah, hopefully he, hopefully he's got you know, the last couple terminator movies haven't been bad.
Speaker 1:No, no, I don't think they've. I just think you know what I think they are. I think they were a product of the time, not only a product of the time, a product of where studios were at the time to compete with the mcu at that time yeah, yeah, 100.
Speaker 2:Speaking of the mcu, there is some marvel stuff that was not related to D23, and none of it's good. I mean the first one's kind of a non-. Starter. It's what if season three will be the last season of what if and Moon?
Speaker 1:Knight's going to be in it. I'm in. You're thinking what. I'm thinking of why it's the last season, right? Yeah, I mean it's Well, the multiverse is going to collapse. So how could there be a what If, if there's no multiverse?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that I think. You know. I think that they should focus on other things as far as, like, their animation game goes, and we're going to talk about that because I think they're doing it a little bit.
Speaker 2:Feels that way, but I mean between I mean X-Men 97, I guess I mean um, but I mean between I mean x-men 97, I guess I mean what, if was technically the start of, like, the marvel animation sect, but x, obviously x-men 97 took it to just a completely different stratosphere and they were like oh, like this is what we can do right, like when we do like a focused right thing and I think that the what's the name of the spider-man show.
Speaker 2:Uh, this is just called like friendly neighborhood spider-man. I think that show might have.
Speaker 1:You know, got a little bit of injection from that too. I just have a feeling they're gonna like it. As for this, for the animation thing, in my opinion, if you can get the core of what a character is, that's why that nebula episode of what if? Works so well. Yeah, because they understood exactly who what nebula could be. If you change just one thing, but the person as a core shouldn't change, it's just circumstance will change. It shouldn't be core of being should change. So that's why you know that episode works so well. What's? There's a couple episodes in season one that did the same thing where you're like, oh, the black panther episode and sees, like, core pieces of the character still change, just circumstance. That's the beauty of what. If so, once they focus on that, that's when it really shines. X-men 97 shine, hopefully. Uh, friendly neighborhood spider-man shines the same way, I have a feeling. And obviously domingo, or coleman domingo is going to be norman osborne, which is all.
Speaker 2:His agent is just just working triple overtime yeah, yeah, great, um, and then now this is the not good stuff. So, um, both armor wars and eternals 2 are apparently done. The armor, wars.
Speaker 1:One is just mind-boggling because they were like they were all in. And you know what I think is even more interesting. I do think that alden einreich was supposed because and we're going to talk about ironheart as well, because we got a trailer for that I do think alden einreich was supposed to play obadiah saint's son. I think that was the original plan, but then they put him in iron heart of some completely different. He might still be, who knows, the character name is different, but you know what they could pull at the end. Like this is obadiah's, you know estranged son or whatever. But how unfortunate it's just, especially for don cheeto.
Speaker 1:On top of that too and again, we probably could have gotten this a long time ago. We probably didn't need to wait this long to get something like this. This probably could have been in Phase 4. You do Armor Wars and then you figure out all this Tony stuff. That probably would have helped you for the Secret Wars thing too, to kind of separate and give a little bit more post-mortem finality to the whole Stark tech piece of the MCU.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't be surprised if they roll some of it into Ironheart. Yeah, sure, wouldn't be surprised if they roll some of it into ironheart. Yeah, sure, sure.
Speaker 1:Um kind of just to give it. Consolidate the two projects into one a little bit kind of makes a little bit of sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can see them doing that. Um, you know, because you know we've talked before about it's not usually something that that we do, that they do they don't usually announce stuff like this yeah, and then they never had to.
Speaker 1:They were never, yeah, they were, just it was bulletproof for so long.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and then eternals 2 is another thing. I mean, they never had to they were never yeah they were just it was bulletproof, um, so yeah.
Speaker 2:And then Eternals two is another thing. I mean they never, ever announced that there was going to be an Eternals two, but, um, yeah, I mean just another kind of casualty of, I guess, um, just consolidation. And it's a shame because I think that movie ends especially strong, um, and I was intrigued by the conceit of what the ending of that movie set up for those characters, and it would be a shame if we never revisit any of them, because it's going to be like this kind of like forgotten piece in the marvel cinematic timeline of like, where these characters went right so, and you know, I mean we'll save ironheart for a little bit when we get into all the marvel stuff.
Speaker 1:But what else you got for me?
Speaker 2:you got one more thing for me, um, so I mean, I guess, spoilers for deadpool and wolverine.
Speaker 1:There's only one. There's only ever been one blade.
Speaker 2:There's only gonna ever be one blade I mean, I guess this is kind of like a, a culmination of like all the stuff that's happened with blade over the last six to eight months, but apparently that movie is on the ropes is how it's being described, as it's not looking good that this movie might not get made, and I saw that they might retrofit Mahershala Ali's Blade as a Nick Fury type of the spooky side of the universe. That's what I thought about for Kit.
Speaker 1:Harington as Dane Whitman, because you went out of the way to make the post-credits scene. I mean, we're going to talk about Eternals 2 in a second, but I don't know why you even go out of the way for anything like that if you don't have anything. Just I mean set solid, like there's no if and or. But if this thing's coming out and I mean I out, and I mean I just told you before we hopped on how difficult is it?
Speaker 2:is it to make a blade movie?
Speaker 1:like I don't understand. Like what they made three of them. They made three of them and two of them are not great, so I don't understand why this one is so infinitely tough to make. Like I like what I like. I'm generally like what's the problem? Like I don't. I don't get what. What's the deal with blade? They're able to get secret. Like they're able to pivot from your main character of your multiverse saga away and get your guy back. But you can't just make a solo Blade movie that can only be Just make it two hours long, maybe R-rated. Have them do some violence, little character stuff in there being a goth like I don't know right, like, oh, it should be.
Speaker 1:What's his name again? Oh, isn't he canceled. Who, uh, my uh, heat wave from from from legends? Oh, is he canceled?
Speaker 2:I can't remember was it nicholas cage dracula?
Speaker 1:make nicholas cage jackie no wait, that'd be kind of funny. Remember when nicholas cage was in in the Flash? Yeah, yeah, I do the lifeless cameos in Multiverse of Madness and Deadpool Wolverine. Go watch the Flash movie and then come back and talk to me right but yeah, this Blade thing is crazy there was actual lifeless cameos in the Flash movie. What are we? What are we? What are we talking about? Oh my god, what a horrible thing they did.
Speaker 2:I still don't understand what the thinking was there. Just put Greg Uston in it. It's the only camp you needed.
Speaker 1:Did they put not-Teddy Sears in there? Yo, what was this whole thing in the Flash season finale? The only thing I love more than beating the Flash is killing cops. I said what what?
Speaker 2:yeah, that became his, his stick, his stick, and it was very confusing, um, but not as confusing as this blade thing not happening. Um, I just don't understand it me neither. I don't know what the issue is. They trotted him out there on at comic-con I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1:I was like wait, is that two-time oscar winner, maher shawley, out there?
Speaker 2:it just feels like again, kind of like the armor wars thing, that they're just gonna roll him into like a different thing I don't know if he's down to even play blade again after this.
Speaker 1:Why would I ever go back to this universe that?
Speaker 1:I said like why is how is a blade movie this difficult? Like what do you? What's the complication in this? But I I think there was probably a lot of behind the scenes like anger and anguish and like different viewpoints were not being met for different people, and it probably was specifically my. Her Shaleen had a vision for this and I'm not going to lie. You probably take the advice of the two time Oscar winner on some things, but I guess I guess that's for another conversation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I mean Eternals is just, you know, dead. Yeah, I mean it's just a casualty of just not being marketable enough, to be honest, like they just went out and they made a movie's movie, but people, just on the grand scheme of things, it was just the wrong fit for like a superhero thing to try and do that type of movie.
Speaker 1:But I still disagree, but I guess I can't say anything. It's dead now. I, I personally wholeheartedly disagree. I just think, at the end of the day it's you know, I'm not naive to the fact that you know people want what they want. Like a movie that I think is infinitely worse is thor love and thunder, and thor love and thunder made way more money than that. Yeah, so it's unfortunate, but that's the way that it goes. I think there's way, way, way, way, way worse movies than the mcu, and that's the one that gets canned.
Speaker 2:It just it sucks yeah, especially if they're gonna use elements of the eternals for captain america 4, as I feel like a small part of it. People will be like, well, what happened with that group? But I guess we'll never know. And then, yeah, moving on to D23. It was a massive event that you could follow on social media.
Speaker 1:Not to be confused with the event from NBC from a couple years ago.
Speaker 2:Remember that show the event. What was the?
Speaker 1:event. We're actually going to review the event from NBC from a couple years ago.
Speaker 2:Remember that show, the event yes.
Speaker 1:What was the event? I don't know. We're actually going to review the event next week because we don't have anything better to do. How the heck was that man? I don't know, they kept marketing that for months. The event? I don't even know what the event was. It was like a minor earthquake. The event's coming. What earthquake? The event's coming. What's the event? We don't know because we didn't finish the show. We'll never know, I guess we'll never know.
Speaker 2:We will never know, but this event D23 it was the the most the most popular Twitter following thing, because obviously none of it can be viewed by the public, but you just follow. Follow twitter for updates and leaked trailers. Do you do you why? I don't know in this day and age, like I don't know why you do things like this because it's art, it's.
Speaker 1:If you were going to do it, you would have just told everybody to put, because there's conventions that do that. They'll make you put your phone away, like you can't pull your phone out, you'll be removed from the place. So if you're gonna have this whole big expo, you're gonna do this like and d23. You remember the jonathan majors announcement, one like from what was that? 2019 or 2020, I can't remember which one. But if you're gonna do that, right, just have feige go out there and like the pre-recorded one that he did in 2019 or whatever time it was, and just do something like that. You don't need to, but at least give us something like I the exclusivity I think is like a little. I don't like the barrier in between no either.
Speaker 2:And it's like again like they. It's like they want both things at the same time, like they want the exclusivity, but also like don't care if everything gets put on the internet, so like just live streaming on disney plus oh, that's what I kept checking disney plus.
Speaker 1:I was like what where's d23? Like why does this have to be such an exclusive thing? Because you think it's because they wanted all the trailers to breathe, because they're gonna probably drop these trailers in the next couple months sure, next a month.
Speaker 2:So I think there's an element of that for sure. But at this, I mean at this point, it's all online, it's, everybody can watch it. Yeah, just worse, in worse quality than then you probably want want us to see it in, um. That being said, marvel studios kicked things off, um with the same three movies that they talked about at comic con, but we got um a little bit, just a little bit more um. So the first one I want to talk about is the thunderbolts, because that trailer I was like wait a second wait a minute.
Speaker 2:I thought this was going to be like a you know what is this movie? Is it the Suicide Squad, but Marvel? But like no, it feels like it's a little more focused than that.
Speaker 1:Do you know what? The first thing they made sure they did and that I keep screaming to the Marvel mountains about, they gave us a main character. Yes, movie. Yes, elena, it's such a small thing but it makes it such a big difference. She's the main. She's the main character of this thing. You follow her and the tone is. The tone seems so focused, like you said, this.
Speaker 1:It's just, I guess the, the, the core theme for I'm all of d23. It feels like it's focused, or refocus, I guess, is a better word to use for it, and everything seems recontextualized, refocused, and I mean just focusing on the thunderbolts, you know, we kind of felt it's. It's a story about purpose, which I think is very effective, especially today. I don't know why the bear season two kind of helped with that like thinking about, like what everybody's purpose should be. But that's's what it seems like like in this universe where, like there's no, the Avengers are so definitive in that universe Now of like these are the heroes that bought back half the population. So the Thunderbolts are like. So what's our purpose? Like there's no more contract killing. That's like makes you feel good, like there's nothing. There's nothing to that. It's like there's the good guys and the bad guys, but I mean it's and I mean val kind of talks about in the story there's there's bad guys and then there's worse guys, like you guys are, could be bad guys, but you guys aren't the worst guys.
Speaker 2:So let's do something about it yeah, yeah, I totally agree with your point about yelena being the, the perspective character in this movie. I think that's a great idea. Um, and then again, like to your, the theme does appear to be about like purpose because, you see, it does feel like, if you're going to, if you're going to power rank, you know the characters as terms of like their importance to the plot. It feels like Yelena is going to be obviously one and then it appears to be John Walker is going to be two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as a kid, which I think is a good motivator as well too. It's something that's simple, but again it's like now you gave me something that I'm going to think about for this character, something that I'm going to care about for this character. That's the main character thing. That's why we follow them. It's such a simple thing but it's so effective. And then also her relationship with David Harbour as Red Guardian just simple things even for him. Essentially, his daughter sacrificed herself for the universe and his other daughter is a contract killer who so desperately wants to be there, and then his whole arc is going to be like wait, maybe I can be this father that I was supposed to be this whole time. Like I don't think Black Widow ended that argument, that scene with with him and her where they're kind of sitting in her childhood room.
Speaker 1:That's such a great scene from that movie that not a lot of people talk about enough. Um, but I just want to see kind of the realization. There's no way he makes it through that movie too. I can tell, I can probably guarantee you there's no way he makes it through that. He'll probably make a noble sacrifice for her Cause. What better thing is there to do? Cause, talk about Lewis Pullman as a century I'm in. I think he looks great. Obviously, you know, I wish it would have been great if that was Steven Yoon, like I think that would have. Especially after watching the beef, for some reason I was like I feel like he would have been incredible as the century. But that's a great alternate that they had. In the wins too. There's something that's really homey about him that I think is good. So by the time he absolutely snaps and turns into the void.
Speaker 2:I think it's gonna be like one of those things you're like no, like oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, um. And then I mean we got a couple couple looks at bucky. Um, congressman bucky, yep, but he also is getting suited up at some point, yeah, with his new winter soldier arm. Get the long hairs back, yeah, long hairs back. He's got a goatee. I don't like the goatee. He's a politician man. I miss the long hair. Stubble five o'clock shadow is his best.
Speaker 1:Look Now he looks like a middle school principal.
Speaker 2:He does look like a substitute teacher. Right, he's giving substitute teacher vibes that drives like a van to school, yeah. We got Taskmaster, um that drives like a van to school. Yeah, we got, uh, taskmaster, new costume. Same taskmaster, um from black widow. I'm still waiting, still waiting for something for that character to click I think you just used the proper word.
Speaker 1:I need a character out of her.
Speaker 2:That's all I need yeah, um start simple I just need her to be somebody same, same, uh, same with ghost, but I think I think it's just been a long time since we've seen that character.
Speaker 1:Yeah, also she's super, super charismatic. Like yes, the woman that plays her herself. Like, yeah, she is overtly charismatic. I think she's gonna fit well with them too.
Speaker 2:I think she's gonna have a lot of fun also the uh, the ghost action sequence from the trailer. I was like, heck, yeah, that was super, her phasing, phasing through. Yelena throws a knife, goes face through the knife and then catches it on the other side and then, well, that was the thing from hitman and I'm like whoa, and again this is like prime mcu thinking of, like the more we go on, these characters are going to learn more and more about themselves.
Speaker 1:It's like the doctor, strange thing like when we picked up with him and doctor and thor thor ragnarok, like tell, like that's still a Doctor Strange, we know, but he knows a thing or two. Now, like the universe, let it play itself for a little bit, which is nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like she's phasing through bullets as she's getting shot at. I'm like this character has the potential to do some really sick stuff in this movie. So I think that's super exciting and overall I was just I Overall.
Speaker 1:I hope this trailer makes its way onto the internet so that people can actually see it in perfect quality, because I was super impressed. I'm not going to finish my point about the Thunderbolts yet because let's just bottleneck this right into Captain America. Brave New World Got another trailer, basically, it's basically half of it's Anthony Mackie walking.
Speaker 2:Just kidding, this is probably the Comic-con trailer, right? Yeah, yeah, yep because I know the comic-con trailer talked about the scene where he read he read hulks in front of the white house, at the podium what a place to do it. He didn't even do it in secret, he just said I'm, I'm the red hulk y'all um, so we got that, um, and overall, this movie continues to be trucking right along and I continue to be impressed with everything that I see from it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, again, it's just an accompaniment with the thunderbolts. It's it's this world level that we kept talking about, like the world level marvel piece of the universe. It's like now it's starting to get a little bit of traction and a little bit of like you know, in the same way, and it still also has that rugged, tough edge of you know of this little not this little, but this kind of you know. It feels like it's like grungy a bit, which is good, and like that like winter soldier-esque, yeah, like it's all back, which is great also I mean guardians aside the world part of the original couple first phases of the mcu, the best parts.
Speaker 2:You're talking about your Captain America movies. You're talking about Iron man. Obviously it's a guy in a metal suit but at his world level it was grounded for the most part. I feel like all the grounded stuff in the first iteration of the MCU was always its best stuff. I'm a little surprised it's taken this long to get back to it, but I'm glad that they are.
Speaker 1:You know why the world level works? Because it doesn't. It's character driven. Yeah, it's character driven, but it doesn't garner you to be like I need to worry about, like Gorschnab the conqueror from this planet, like, yeah, it's just like this guy that like I know from TV because that's an Avenger that pops up on the news from here and then in universe yeah, so like, and it's like there's a level of realism because it's actual people doing like superhero things. But it's like it's just this guy that's from Louisiana, that you know was Cap's sidekick until he wasn't and then he came to his own. Like little stuff, like that. Like there's an election, ross is now the president, but but the big thing from two big things from this trailer. Obviously, we already talked about the rough stuff. I need you to build a new Avengers for me. You're the new Avengers from Marvel Comics, aren't you? Yeah, this is an Avengers movie, isn't it?
Speaker 2:I mean, it would be a great, it'd be a great kind of, you know, parallel to, you know, civil War, which is essentially an Avengers movie inside of, wrapped inside of a Captain America movie.
Speaker 1:Like it's not, like they haven't done this. So I I could totally see that I think what they're gonna do is and just to throw that out there too, because I keep hearing it that joaquin or what's his I forget what his name is and his real name is but, um, in the movie, joaquin torres, like everybody keeps saying he steals the show in this, he steals the show in this movie. I'm really looking forward to him and what he does, because his the only thing he needs to worry about doing is approaching falcon a little bit differently than anthony mackie did, because you don't want to just retread the same action sequence, the same thing, like you have to be different to some capacity, which is, I think he'll figure out, and apparently he did, which is great. But here's what I think's gonna happen. Ross is gonna be like hey, man, can I have some? I have some Avengers. They're not answering my calls.
Speaker 2:Y'all got any more of them.
Speaker 1:Avengers Y'all got any more of them Avengers and he's like we got ghosts. He's like just kidding. I think this movie is also a backdoor Hulk movie, because there's no earthly way that Mark Ruffalo is not in this movie. There is just there's no shot. To what end, though? I think he's gonna fight Ross at the end of this movie.
Speaker 1:Okay, like I said, I think this is an Avengers movie. That's just talking, that's just walking the talk of a Captain America movie, a new age Captain America movie. I think it's gonna be She-Hulk and Hulk, because the whole intelligentsia thing played off in this movie and have her be back in the movie. Two of them, ant-man and wasp. What are they doing? You can put them back in this movie. And then it's gonna be falcon, captain america. Who else you got that you can throw on? This team probably got one more character you can throw here, um, trying to think of all the avengers you can. You can put here, but they probably want, want an Avengers team kind of like that, where it's like these are all smarter people or it's not like any sorcerers or anything like that or any Thors. You know what I mean. It's just it's science-y Hulk, she-hulk, both the Ant-Man and the Wasp. It's not a bad Avengers team to start.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean my only thing. Obviously, this movie appears to be teed up for the hulk to show right, I mean, it's it's hulk adjacent at this point, um, but the only, weirdly enough, the only character that doesn't currently fit into the hulk mythos is the hulk himself. Like I don't, I can't imagine soft-spoken, quippy, smart, smart Hulk fighting Ross.
Speaker 1:I thought about that already.
Speaker 2:I thought about it. Don't worry, I thought about it.
Speaker 1:I think Ross is going to revert him back to no, no, not Ross. I think that the leader's going to revert him back to the Hulk, because I think they know the rumblings of all the transgressions, about people's uproar about the modern Hulk, of how he's just. Why are we spending so long with Professor Hulk? Like we haven't seen that savage Hulk in like nine years, since Age of Ultron or since seven years since, well, the beginning of Infinity War, right?
Speaker 1:so it's been like six and a half. Well, by the time this movie comes out, it'll then.
Speaker 2:so mark ruffalo is not getting any younger, like I think it's about time just let him. Let him harrison ford can be a hulk.
Speaker 1:Mark ruffalo could be a hulk, right. So what I think is going to happen? I think he is going to show up as professor hulk, like just you know, get old, yeah. And then you know he's like I don't know if it's going to be like the leader does it to him, or like just his fight with ross brings back out, like maybe he'll say something, maybe it's Betty that does it, because Liv Tyler's in this movie as well, and to that point Liv Tyler's in this movie. You have Thaddeus Ross in this movie. You have Tim Blake Nelson in this movie. You're telling me Mark Ruffalo's not going to be in this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know why you would bring Liv Tyler back if you're not going to pay off her relationship with bruce, what I think is going to happen is I think you think ross is going to die by the end, or they're going to fake his death, probably, so he can keep being, keep being the red hulk yeah, that would make sense.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean I, they have to. They have to figure out some way to get him back to being the actual hulk, because, like you know, smart hulk was fun. But like, be the hulk now, right, and In what a way?
Speaker 1:like, imagine if, like, the Avengers, are fighting whoever they need to fight, because I don't know who, what the fight would be or who they would fight. Or maybe it's like a combination Like I need all you guys against Red Hulk, but I don't know if he has henchmen. I don't know.
Speaker 2:But but I mean, I think it would also be a kind of a cool payoff to the whole, like the reason Hulk went into hiding was because he got his ass kicked by Thanos. So I think it would be kind of like a nice little full circle moment of like he gets his ass kicked by the Red Hulk and then, like the Hulk is like I got, I got this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm back. I'm not afraid anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I think that would be a nice little payoff.
Speaker 1:I have one ask of this movie. This a nice little payoff. I have one ask of this movie. This is Anthony Mackey's movie. That's my only ask. Yeah, this is his movie, don't forget it.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's been the kind of like specter hanging over this movie this entire time. We're like are they going to treat him like the same as they treated Chris Evans? Know yet, because it's been a bajillion years since he got made captain america?
Speaker 1:right. So to my thunderbolts point, so I can link both of these back real quick. Here's what I think is gonna happen. His avengers team is gonna do their thing. They're gonna go to tmn island because in this, in this new trailer, they talk they literally talk about adamantium as the world's most versatile. The wakandans are like you are you sure about that? But I think what's's going to happen is Ross is going to be like can you go get me that adamantium, bro? And he's going to be like fine, can you bring your Avenger friends with you? Fine, I'll do it.
Speaker 1:I think they're going to lose at the end of this movie. I think they're going to lose as an Avengers team, and the whole point is that Thunderbolt's little asterisk at the end, I literally think the movie's going to start, that title card's going to break and it's just going to say Dark Avengers instead of it. That's what I think the whole thing is. And Val's going to promote them as the new. They're going to Dune Part 1, it Right, they're going to promote them as the new Avengers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes sense. I think the Thunderbolt thing is probably going to break at the end. Credits is what I think is going to happen. Because even in that trailer they showed at d23, like it was like like thunderbolt and then it was like ping asterisk at the end. So like I feel like that's gonna like come up and I think it's gonna be like at the end, like the title, like the title card will come up and it'll show up again as thunderbolt and then it'll like whatever, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2:Dark avengers, new avengers whatever type of right, special effect you want to put behind it, um, and they're gonna change the title and be like ah, tricked, you see, um. And then the last thing fantastic four.
Speaker 1:So we got some more fantastic four stuff chiquino debuted the whole main theme and it's great. Had a tear in my eye, it was just beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's tremendous, it's super good. Um, we got the suits. Good, look, well, we got johnny suit, um, which is gonna be all the suits. Right, because I don't know if you know this, but they all dress the same right? They what? Except sometimes the thing has pants just pants, just pants. Yep, sometimes he has a little tank top.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got that future foundation suit. It's kind of cool. Um, I think the suit looks good and yeah's the 1960s, everybody relax. It's the future 1960s, everybody chill out. Like I said, it's extended white. It's a little bit of that cloth material to it. It's not going to look exactly like the 2005 suit, nerds, he's got the blonde hair. He's got the blonde hair. You're the blonde hair from the Marvel comic. It's a wig.
Speaker 1:It's a wig. Yeah, I just think everybody's man, everybody just seems dialed. I said it last time everybody seems dialed on this project and I I keep talking to other people that saw it and like we kind of all have like the same feeling, like I don't know why this doesn't feel like an mcu movie and maybe that's on purpose.
Speaker 1:But it feels like a wes anderson movie and I can't stress this enough get yoan griff Griffin out of your brain because I can't explain it. Pedro Pascal just has something to him about Reed Richards. I don't know what it is, but I'm in. I don't know what the heck it is.
Speaker 2:Weirdly enough, this character feels like the most Pedro Pascal out of all the characters he's played.
Speaker 1:Wholesome, but I'm just waiting for the snap. He's like you know.
Speaker 2:Pedro Pascal. If you've ever seen him in literally any interview, he's super nice, super polite, super down-to-earth, super chill, and every character he's ever played in television has been a badass. Whether you're talking about Din Djarin, whether you're talking about Joel from the Last of Us, whether you're talking about Oberyn Martell. When you're talking about the guy he played in Narcos, oberyn Martell from when you're talking about the guy he played in Narcos, like Reed Richards honestly feels like the most. Him in the Nick Cage movie he was in Maybe not that one and Wonder Woman 84 he was Donald Trump.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, but this one feels like Life can be good, but it can be better.
Speaker 2:This feels like the most like Pedro Pascal affied character. Like pedro pascal is a five character that we've seen him play, which I think is great man when he rounds that corner.
Speaker 1:He's just like sunday dinner at eight, we all try to be a family, or whatever he says, I'm like yeah, yep, yeah, that's the thing I'm super.
Speaker 1:Wants to see an explosion and I'm like that's just me actually that's just like a 60s guy, like that's, just like a smart guy from the 60s and just like the little flashes of like them doing the space stuff, like the 16-millimeter film of like they're actually doing. And I listened to all the interviews that they did at SDCC and when they were talking about when we all got cast, we all got together, Matt Shackman had us watch Apollo 13. There's a reason for that. Like that's what this—the whole idea of this movie is so interesting and like that's what this, the whole idea, this movie is so interesting.
Speaker 1:And you know what shackman did with. You know a bunch of wandavision from all those past things. Like I think he's this is kind of what it was culminating to to get him a project like this. Yeah, I'm, I'm so in. Can I tell you my reed richards thing? This doesn't have to do with anything. I just think about this for secret wars. So just walk with me for a second. Pedro john krasinski and joan Yohan Griffin it's just a couple Mr Fantastics are walking into a place and they see a guy with a Mr Fantastic walks into a bar.
Speaker 1:Three Mr Fantastics walking to a bar. One spaghetti, One spaghetti, no, he's Mom's spaghetti. He's back, he's good. And they're like they see this other guy working on some stuff and he's like yeah, I'm working for Doom, or is Doom working for me? And then, lo and behold, it's the Maker. But it's Miles Teller as the Maker and the three of them have to fight him. But he's just wicked. Would that scene not slap in Secret Wars?
Speaker 2:It would, it definitely would. Miles Teller feels like the most the Maker out of all the Rea Richards.
Speaker 1:A thousand percent.
Speaker 2:Maybe it a thousand percent, maybe it's because he's him in real life, maybe, sure, sure, we love you. Miles teller, we do like miles teller, that'd be great.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I was thinking about that the other day. No, it's good, that would be crazy. The three of them have to fight him, and he's just. He's just an animal, he's an animal no, no, he's not the rhino from the craving trailer. Oh, we didn't even touch on that. Oh yeah, we didn't even talk about the rhinos in the Craven trailer. Is that Alexei Sixevich? But science, and he's a real rhino man. Yeah, yeah, it's like you're the rhino from Marvel Comics. Yeah, nice.
Speaker 2:It's wild. Yeah, and I was still sitting there and I from Paul Giamatti in a mech suit, take a look at the Lexi Six Savage.
Speaker 1:You want me to come down there?
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, we didn't even talk about like all the Deadpool, like not all the Deadpool stuff, but like obviously it's making a bajillion dollars, but and Ryan Reynolds was like I don't know if I'm ever going to come back as Deadpool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shut up, shut up. You just launched an entire. Why was Thor crying? Shut up.
Speaker 2:You just launched an entire. What I would do with the character is just Deadpool and character movies. Oh, can I talk about my thing?
Speaker 1:that I think they should do. Mm-hmm, you do. Now you do X-Force proper, yeah, and like, make it a bit more serious, because so, rick Remender I forget what year it is, it might, I think it's like 2006, 2007. Rick Remender takes X-Force and it's one of the greatest comics. And, look, keep it very simple. You do Deadpool and Wolverine. You bring both of them back, have them lead this Get the angel from X-Men Apocalypse.
Speaker 1:Maybe not get the OG guy, maybe get him because he got a little bit more play and pull him from the timeline of X-Men Apocalypse, where he's Archangel instead of Angel. You get Olivia Munn back as Psylocke. I feel like that would be give her a second chance. And then, who do you have left? And then oh, this is the fun one you do Phantom X and then you have it be James McAvoy as Phantom X, but you don't reveal it's James McAvoy until the end of the movie. And there's your x-force, and then the mission of the movie is the kill. Should we kill baby hitler? It's the opening arc in that rick remender run is incredible. It's basically they all go on a mission they go to, they go to the moon and they're like, oh, shoot, is that baby apocalypse. We should murder them right, and they're like, they passed the fantastic four on the way, right, right they were like hey guys, and then is that a fantastic car, that's cool.
Speaker 1:And basically it's like okay, we have two options. Right, we should kill. We should kill apocalypse because he's gonna murder all of us, right, oh dear. And then, of all people, deadpool's like this isn't a, this isn't a good thing to do, right? And everybody turns around. They're like wait a second, when have you been? And there's such a good scene after it happens where deadpool's like kind of sitting down, he's just like we shouldn't have done that. And wolverine's like the heck, you mean we shouldn't have done that. This is exact, this is what we're here for. We're to the things that the x-men can't do. That's the exact reason that we're here. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I think you bottleneck that into one movie and like again, the whole thing is you kill. That's the whole mission. Should you kill kid apocalypse or no? Should you keep him alive because he's a kid?
Speaker 1:he hasn't done anything yet except be blue it's very Deadpool 2 right and again, what this could do for Ryan Reynolds is like this is a side of the character we haven't seen yet, like again he kind of talks about it in Deadpool, three of like or Deadpool and Wolverine, where he's just like you know, you know I can't sell my soul if I wanted to like take that away. Like that's the whole point about his character in the Rick Remender run is like he's the emotional core, should be Archangel. I think Colossus joins at some point, but it's Deadpool. Deadpool's like the moral compass of that team, of all the characters. I think that would be such an interesting dynamic.
Speaker 1:And, like I said, big thing you do James McAvoy. You got to put him in that movie, make him Phantom X, make him barely talk, and then you put Psylocke in that movie. I think that would bring Olivia Munn back. I think that would be like a fun little five to have. Maybe you throw Channing Tatum as Gambit in that movie. I just don't know how he plays for like an X-Force, like a covert op team he's been doing a lot of press.
Speaker 1:I have an idea. Yeah, just a Marvel, one shot on Disney, plus it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. You think they're gonna give him his own movie?
Speaker 2:I don't think. I don't think it's gonna be a movie. Just give him the hour. But they're gonna give him something he's doing. He's doing a conspicuous amount of press for Gambit.
Speaker 1:Our special on Disney+. Just like Werewolf by Night in the Guardian special, here's your Gambit movie, yeah that'd be sick, that'd be super sick. Put Rogue in there. Yes, Put Kiki Palmer's Rogue, because once she did that I was like oh yeah, that should be the one, yeah.
Speaker 2:Have fun. It just makes me think they're going to do something with Gambit, because like I said nobody else from that movie is doing press besides Jane Tatum, so like I don't know. It's weird to me, but that was it I just wanted to talk about. But yeah, deadpool man, just like you've unlocked this thing where Deadpool dude, we talked about this do Deadpool and Spider-Man and make an Andrew Garfield Spider-Man. That movie makes a trillion dollars, oh my especially after no Way Home.
Speaker 1:Are you kidding me? Cause? You do Deadpool and Andrew Garfield, spider-man. You still let Tom be one of the main characters for Secret, for Doomsday and Secret Wars, and then in Secret Wars, you do Secret Wars. They're going to do the thing. It's going to be Tobey and Hugh Jackman together at the same time and people are going to lose their minds, including me. I will be there, I am. People Throw Yoan Griffin in there as Mr Fantastic. On top of that, do the whole childhood thing if you're going to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, so yeah, deadpool is insane. It's already made a billion dollars. I saw a thing that Hugh Jackman apparently might be playing Wolverine past Secret Wars.
Speaker 1:We'll see. See, this is me being an adult now and not a kid. I was watching these prime movies of, like I'm not naive and I know money's money, and I know that's what they want to do, because there's no shot. You just bring Robert Downey Jr back and you're like we don't care about the money, we care. No, you cared about the money. Yeah, so, like I'm not naive, we just saw in real time how much money that guy can pull in by himself, especially with somebody else. Yeah, so you're telling me you Maguire and Wolverine at the same time would make you a zillion dollars, and he's also really freaking good.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. Yeah, I would just keep casting that guy until someone else comes along that you are just floored by. He is Wolverine. He's the best at what he does. Man, it's as simple as that. Until you can get someone in that room that you get the same feeling from and he wants to keep doing it, just keep making him Wolverine, I would see it. I don't know if that's in the zeitgeist.
Speaker 1:I think it's too perfect in a weird way at this point, especially after deadpool and wolverine, after the cameo I don't know if it's like if they john krasinski themselves. You know what I mean of like yeah now you can't touch it. Yeah, they could touch it in secret wars, but after that then it has to be like all right, we're done with this.
Speaker 2:Now I don't want to play with you, no more, right um, so disney, disney, proper is what I is what I titled this, and man talking about daredevil. No, we're gonna talk about that at the end. Oh yeah, I got the tv sub at the end oh, okay, my goat, I'm doing it in order.
Speaker 2:Um, so yeah, this is disney, disney proper, and man did, they, did they do some stuff that I was just like holy smokes, like, um, so the rock came out there was like that little time where, like you would have said the same thing the rock came out.
Speaker 1:I was like oh, I'm like. So I mean he showed off molana too good, good, good, good, good, good, and then we thought he was gonna just be gone no man.
Speaker 2:The hierarchy of the monster truck universe is about to change. What's going on here? What is this?
Speaker 1:I think he's so physically intimidating is that like he walks into bob eiger's office, he's like I'm doing this and bob eiger's like okay, I think that's just the story of every movie he's ever made, right like who's gonna tell this guy to get out your? Your head is gonna be through the wall. What are you talking about? Say he's doing that's up to your van diesel? Yeah, true, but he that he came back around, he's your head is going to be through the wall. What?
Speaker 2:are you talking about, except if you're Vin Diesel? Yeah true, he came back around. He's coming back. I ain't hard to find you, sumbitch.
Speaker 1:I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Remember, when we watched it I was like that silhouette doesn't look like the rock, does it? And then it was just the rock and I was like holy crap um, so we got moana.
Speaker 2:Moana 2 is coming more, more moaning. She's got a sister in this one and a new song, and a new, of course, of course is a new song. Um, we got. So what else? I'm just gonna go all over the place with this avatar. We have to talk to talk about Avatar. We got a logo, avatar, fire and ash. It's the fire people this time. What do you mean by the fire people? What do you mean by that? You're going to get canceled on another planet. This episode.
Speaker 1:James Cameron said that this movie is going to contain things that you might not expect from an Avatar movie, and he said it's going to be much more emotionally driven than the first two because jake's gonna die and I thought the first two, I thought the second one was pretty dang emotionally driven when his oldest son spoiler alert for avid, sorry when his oldest son dies in the in that movie. Who's cutting onions in the theater bro?
Speaker 2:I look. The only thing I can't wait for with avatar is this movie's gonna come out obviously next year in december and probably right around, like the first trailer. People will be like nobody cares about avatar and it's not culturally relevant, and then this movie's gonna make two billion dollars again because people don't know.
Speaker 1:He even said it himself. He's like you guys don't even know what you want, but I know what you want. Remember we were watching avatar 2 and we're like this is gonna be great and then we watched. It was like wait, this is actually like better than great, like there's just no way. They did this twice and they're gonna do it five times. Yes, and it's gonna be great this movie's gonna be great.
Speaker 2:We're going to the fire nation this time. No, everything was good until the fire nation attacked. I can't wait. They're gonna be red. It's gonna be awesome. Wow, they're gonna Wow.
Speaker 1:They're going to be red, right, they're going to be red. I think they're going to kill. Like I said, I think they're going to kill. They're going to kill Jake, oh no, and they're going to make Loak the main character of this thing, which I said in my I think I said it in the review that should be on what Jake was when he first started. It's such a good comparison to the two of them.
Speaker 2:You're the only person in the world who knows any of these characters' names.
Speaker 1:You mean Loac and Natam and Sute, who also was Mother's Milk.
Speaker 2:We're gonna get. We're gonna get the Jake, sully and Korich team-up. There's no shot that we don't. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1:Oh, I still want my theory to come true. Where it's Jake and Quaritch, but they have to fight Neytiri, I think.
Speaker 2:Ooh man, because Neytiri's going to go on a little Bigger, jake. Sully, they have to fight. What if they kill Fire, jake.
Speaker 1:Sully Fire, Jake, Sully Evil. Oh wait, wait, wait. What if his twin brother never died and he went to space, but he landed on the Fire Nation part of the planet and became Fire. Jake Sully, he's me, I'm you, I'm me. He says Sick twist.
Speaker 2:Oh man, and just the imagery, just a red Jake Sully fighting a blue Jake Sully oh my God, the Fire Jake Sully. Can a blue Jake Sully oh my god, the fire Jake Sully can shoot fire out of his hands for some reason.
Speaker 1:The blue Jake Sully can swim now for long periods of time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to be great. They're going to fight on top of a volcano.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, it's going to be sick. You were the chosen one Jake Sully. You were supposed to bring balance to Pandora, not turn it to ash.
Speaker 2:Fire and ash. Oh man, fire and ash, they're going to be red.
Speaker 1:They have to be red. This movie might cook. This movie might.
Speaker 2:There's no way you have a red avatar, part of Pandora, and the freaking people aren't red.
Speaker 1:Right, we got a fisherman part with like.
Speaker 2:And I get it. They were still blue, but they were like aquamarine blue. They were a different color. Blue, the Fire Nation, pandora people have to be red.
Speaker 1:You're talking about a lot of different types of colors of people. You've got to be real careful here, Fury.
Speaker 2:It's going to be great. That's all I know. James Cameron, this guy, this guy man.
Speaker 1:What did he say? Didn't he say he woke up one day or he had a dream about Pandora and that's why this whole universe exists? Probably? What a psycho. What a psychopath thing to do. He had a dream about this fictional place with blue people, and now I'm a trillionaire from it.
Speaker 2:And now there's going to be man. I can't wait. What's the next one? What's after fire Wind?
Speaker 1:after the what's after fire, wind, are they gonna be green? Oh, they're gonna be like one with the earth. Aren't they already one with the? Earth kinda, oh, space, oh no, no cosmic they're silver or they're like there's, like they're like pearlescent or something or like oh no, the cosmic navi is gonna go crazy. Cosmic navi james, let us write on one of the movies.
Speaker 2:We'll have fun you're not in kansas anymore. You think they're gonna work that speech into? No, they're gonna go back to earth.
Speaker 1:They have to go back. They're gonna go back to earth. It's gonna be like the whole tron thing that we're gonna talk about in a little bit, where they're gonna go to go back to Earth.
Speaker 2:And then Quartz is going to land there and he's going to go. We actually are in.
Speaker 1:Kansas. He said where did we land, sergeant? He said we're in Topeka, kansas. Sir, we're in Kansas. Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2:Pixar came out swangin' during this presentation. They were like Get up, michael.
Speaker 1:Giacchino. We need another score for the Incredibles 3.
Speaker 2:Yes, they announced the Incredibles 3. Brad Bird is back.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was so happy. I was so frickin' happy. That's a great move. That's my favorite Pixar movie of all time by far is the Incredibles.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of numbers in this Pixar presentation.
Speaker 1:By numbers you mean dollars.
Speaker 2:Oh man, they were like how much money do we want to make in 2025?
Speaker 1:and 2026? We gotta pay Robert Downey Jr, james get up. Get up, james. Brad Bird get up. They called the Avengers of Disney. Yeah, olaf, get up. We need money.
Speaker 2:Frozen 3 got announced as well and they're like who's going to see Frozen 3?
Speaker 1:Literally everybody, right right, I might see it.
Speaker 2:The first two movies are in the top five grossing movies of all time Right.
Speaker 1:It's an insane figure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, Frozen 3 is going to make a movie.
Speaker 1:All three of these movies have a potential to make a billion dollars, which is just nuts, you're talking about what Incredibles, Incredibles, Toy Story and Frozen. Yes, all three of them have a potential to make a billion dollars. Yes, toy Story 5 also and Avatar has a potential.
Speaker 2:It probably will make a billion dollars. Avatar's going to make two billion dollars. Right, that's the ceiling for Avatar. Bored yeah. Toy Story 5, toys versus iPads.
Speaker 1:Is the premise of this. It's brilliant. What a great way to do it. Oh, it's perfect. Wait, is the technology going to be sentient? This is James Cameron's Terminator movie. I knew it. Who should play the iPad? Arnold Schwarzenegger? No, no.
Speaker 2:Who played the T-1000 and T-2? Patrick Wilson, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm looking for John Connor.
Speaker 2:He's not here anymore, that was my impression, that was your Tom Hanks.
Speaker 1:No, no no, no, no, that was my impression of the kid that played John Connor.
Speaker 2:Oh Was that your Woody? Was that your Woody impression? Move on. Go to the next thing. Tom Hanks in the Terminator movie. That would be insane.
Speaker 1:He's like the nicest Terminator ever.
Speaker 2:But yeah, Toy Story 5, toys versus technology.
Speaker 1:John, I'm here to save you from the future.
Speaker 2:That should actually be the tagline of Toy Story 5, toys versus technology.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm here to save you from the future man. It's going to be great. I'm still trying to think of who should play the iPad, because it should be like a Siri voice, but it should be like Tilda Swinton as the iPad.
Speaker 2:You don't know what's coming there's gonna yeah, there's gonna have to be a moment where the iPad or whatever comes to life and was like you're obsolete toys and Woody's gonna be like yeah, you know what's not obsolete?
Speaker 1:these blickies on my side.
Speaker 2:Buzz Lightyear comes in, flies in flies in you looking for this anyway, it's gonna make a billion dollars. Yes, um, inside out it's getting a spinoff show. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that movie, quietly, was just like can we be the highest grossing?
Speaker 1:movie of the year. Yeah, um, you know how nuts it is that deadpool and wolverine made a billion off of our rating. That is pretty crazy, it's wild um.
Speaker 2:I have written here ai beaver question mark oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So they were like you guys got any new stuff, and then somebody said shut up, and then iger's like all right, relax, we got one new thing it's an ai beaver.
Speaker 2:It's called hoppers, apparently. Yeah, and it's what if a girl put her mind into an AI beaver? Isn't that just Avatar?
Speaker 1:Relax, relax. I know exactly what you mean, but chill out. Is that not the same premise? Can you say that tagline one more time? Which one?
Speaker 2:The beaver thing oh, a girl takes her mind and puts it into an AI beaver.
Speaker 1:That was the most AI-generated tagline that I think that they went into chat GBT and said can you make us a Pixar movie?
Speaker 2:And that's what it came out with, and somehow the beaver's going to have feelings at the end.
Speaker 1:No, Just like the iPad and twist, they're going to realize the iPad's supposed to work with them, not against them, right?
Speaker 2:They're going to work together, mm-hmm and create a sentient stylus Mm-hmm, mm, mm, uh-huh, uh-huh. What's he cooking? We got a Mufasa trailer, the most unnecessary prequel movie maybe ever See.
Speaker 1:I'd say that if Barry Jenkins wasn't directing it. That's fair. Now I care, that's all I'll leave it at Remember. When I watched the first trailer and we watched it together and I was just like there was that shot of Mufasa and it was up his ear and it was just like the wind sweeping in his ear. I was like wait a minute, Is that cinema?
Speaker 2:Sometimes you don't have to make the villain a tragic villain, you just make him a Nazi.
Speaker 1:That was Scar's biggest appeal was that he was just evil.
Speaker 2:Now you're going to make me feel bad for Scar. Nah, not interested. Who's playing Scar in this movie? Is it not Chimacel Legefort?
Speaker 1:I think you're right. Yep Should have been Jeremy Irons.
Speaker 2:Bring him back, should have been Jeremy Irons. Bring him back, should have been.
Speaker 1:Jeremy Irons, but I want a kid version of but it's still Jeremy Irons' voice. As a kid they get a young Mufasa. Everybody else is young, but it's still Jeremy Irons as a 12-year-old Scar.
Speaker 2:I'm still holding out hope that Chiwetel Ejiofor is going to end up being Nolan the Venom.
Speaker 1:I would you don't understand how incredible that would be um, uh, what else did we get from from disney?
Speaker 2:percy jackson. Percy jackson, walter scobell is officially at puberty. Question mark is what I think we can say. Um, for this. I was very disarmed by this, by this lad's voice. Um, when the trailer started for percy jackson, I was like wait a minute, he's. He's tough now, which you know to to your point. You know, when the show first came out, like we both kind of agreed like this is gonna go great because he's like at a certain age and then like, as the story matures and escalates, he's also gonna mature right, and it's already happening right.
Speaker 1:So this is great. Like it's a charismatic cast too. I know like like social media looking like a lot of people love these kids too. They're really into this. I know it's not going to be as big as Harry Potter. I don't think anything can, especially on Disney+. If these were movies maybe this could be a different conversation, but on Disney+ it won't get there. But I just like how the show is just very. It's nothing insane. Like the show's not crazy. Like this show is just very. It's nothing insane. Like this show's not crazy. Like just do the book, do the book? Have the creator be one of the executive producers on the thing. Keep it simple. And have walker scoble be like all right, we know he's probably going to be a movie star when he gets older, so like let's have him now. Like let's have this be his thing and let's have him own the show. And I think they're doing a good job. Obviously it's going to be sea of monsters for season two. As book two was, I did cast tyson as well as half brother.
Speaker 2:Spoiler alert um, did they say whether or not they were gonna uh recast?
Speaker 1:zeus. I don't know, I don't. I I do think they will at some point, or maybe you don't have to worry about it now. Like, why worry about it? I think he necessarily needs to be in the season for anything, especially sea of monsters. He doesn't needs to be in the season for anything, especially seeing monsters. He doesn't need to be there.
Speaker 2:So man he lance riddick was so good just in that little bit that he was in and I love the fact, because they could have been like.
Speaker 1:He's wearing, like you know, greek clothing. No, he, they just put him in a three-piece suit. Yes, and let his voice just be the greatest voice of all time. Rip lance, riddick man. He was cooking in John Wick 4 as well, too. Yes, man.
Speaker 2:Yes, he was, ah, such a shame man, but that looked super good. And then, yeah, tron, we touched upon it earlier Tron Ares apparently got a look. Nine Inch Nails is back. We're bringing Nine Inch Nails back to do the music, which is great. Everything about this movie feels great, besides the fact that Jared Leto's in it.
Speaker 1:I just there's like a lot of actors right On planet Earth. No, I just don't know how they circled back to. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:But like I don't know he did that, you know he did Blade, blade runner and he was great in that oh, I mean blade blade runner and dallas byers-clover, his two best performances.
Speaker 1:Like it's in there, I just we haven't seen that? Well, that's what I'm saying I just don't know why. I don't know why he was the first choice for something like that, especially in like a modern. Well, maybe that's actually a good point. Maybe they did look at blade runner and they're like we kind of want that same feel that you gave to wallace and that like we want that same type of same type of feel can you do it without being a wacko?
Speaker 2:I don't know, man, we don't know, we don't know, we're never gonna know also.
Speaker 1:Can everybody relax, because I saw people were like nine inch nails to do is what's this rock band from? The Guys? It's Atticus Ross and Trent Rensard. Yeah, it's them.
Speaker 2:That's super cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think. Oh, they just do the Challenger score again, put it in the movie. What if they worked the social network? They did. They did the Killer. That movie was an underrated gem from this year so far. Why is michael fassbender not more stuff?
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's a great question. Can he act?
Speaker 1:yeah, yes, yes, he can, yes, he can. I don't even have to think about that one he can act, so what's going on to? Do one of those this week. It'd be funny if not this week. I still think it would be funny if we did Not this week. I still think it would be funny if we found a way. Could Woody act? I?
Speaker 2:mean yeah Could.
Speaker 1:Tom Hanks act yes.
Speaker 2:Come on man. Yes, Don't do this.
Speaker 1:But can he act in Training Day?
Speaker 2:That episode's still in the can.
Speaker 1:It's still waiting Could.
Speaker 2:Denzel be Forrest Gump. I guess we need to wait until they're both like officially properly retired because they keep making movies. Like they keep making movies because now I have to be like can Tom Hanks do Gladiator 2?
Speaker 1:it would be funny but then could what's his name? Can Denzel turn around and do that like slice of life movie that he's about to?
Speaker 2:make. That's what I mean. Like they keep, they keep making movies. So like they keep making movies. So we have to wait until they're both properly retired, until we're out of movies, to body swap them in Sure, I think that was it for the Disney stuff, pretty much. Star Wars, not much. Not a ton of Star Wars stuff. We got a trailer for Skeleton Crew what if Star Wars? But it was the Breakfast Club? No, they're too young for that. What if Star star wars, but it was the breakfast club? No, they're too young for that.
Speaker 1:What if star wars, but it was stranger things? No, what if star wars, but it was stand by me, um, and jude law was also in it look man, jude law as a jedi is rad I think it's cool because I know he's gonna be some sort of sort of scoundrel type of jedi, which I think is fun. I just have a feeling he's not gonna be like a noble Jedi. No, probably not. Yeah, he's like just openly using the Force. Buddy put that away.
Speaker 2:He has a weird looking elephant creature. Who's gonna be?
Speaker 1:adorable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm in. It checks all the Star Wars modern Star Wars boxes. Yeah yeah, Star Wars has suburbs. Who knew?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like in like. They're like in like I don't know. They're in like I don't know. They're in like just like a town in like Illinois, like that's just like a normal street.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like what is what? What is happening?
Speaker 1:This is not Star Wars, but it is but it's also the most Star people mad the. I saw this one comment I knew this trailer was gonna piss people off yeah, I saw, and they were just like if I wanted to watch the goonies, I'd watch the goonie. Somebody's like I'm looking forward to this. Somebody commented if you ever wanted to watch the goonies, I watched the goonies. This is not sorry. Somebody said you know what? I'll just shut up and jump off a bridge. Why would I ever enjoy something?
Speaker 2:what wasn't star wars about it? Right, it had jedi and a jedi. It had a spaceship right it had the little speeders it had the little speeders. It had weird looking alien creature.
Speaker 1:People, right, it checks all the boxes right like what's what's left.
Speaker 2:This seems like a you problem, honestly in this movie, this, this show didn't even have jedi confirmed in it. No, no, we didn't know who jude law was playing yeah, now we know he's playing a jedi, he's playing the jedi, he's playing john star wars come on man. He's playing jude star wars jude, star, jude, star wars I just think it looks fun.
Speaker 1:It looks like it's gonna be endearing. You don't have to do a lot with this show, just make sure it's fun. It's gonna reach a lot more, a lot more audiences too. I think that's also a ploy from them to be like let's get kids into this too.
Speaker 2:Yes, I hope and I hope again. It's the Acolyte thing like I hope that these characters are good and I can invest in them Right, which I did not do for the Acolyte Andor. Andor season 2 details and things were announced. Diego Luna's got a. He's got a suave kind of undercover getup going on in one of these pictures. So we do know that it's going to take place over four years. Every three episodes will be a one-year time jump. So they're doing what Andor Season 1 did, but just on a bigger scale.
Speaker 1:You can tell me anything that was going to happen in the season, I would just shake my head and be like, yep, I'm in it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Ben Mendelsohn's back as Krennic yeah, that's the only thing I needed to hear.
Speaker 1:Forrest Whitaker's back as Saw Gerrera it was incredible.
Speaker 2:Is he going to do a weird voice? Probably, probably, probably.
Speaker 1:Paul Kallick knows the truth.
Speaker 2:I can't wait, I can't wait. He's going to do a weird voice.
Speaker 1:Remember when you first watched Andor and there was that scene that looked like it was out of Tron Legacy, I was like wait a second. And then episode 3 hit and you were like wait, what's happening?
Speaker 2:What is this? Never has the collective populace been more wrong than they were about Andor and they were like who needs this? We saw Rogue One were about Andor and they were like who needs this? We saw Rogue One like Cassian Andor sucks. And then it came out and we were like wait a second.
Speaker 1:Is this the greatest show of all time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly, or that show was good. Yep, and then, of course, Rogue One just what's his name? Just showed up and delivered one of the greatest monologues, and then Stellan Skarsgård's. Like, I'm also going to deliver an incredible monologue.
Speaker 2:Hold my monologue. Hold my monologue and Alan Tudyk's coming back as K2SO. We're going to see the genesis of that relationship.
Speaker 1:You know why he came back Because Cassian said I had to.
Speaker 2:It's going to be great. That character is amazing in Rogue One, so I'm looking forward to the birth of that friendship and seeing how it evolves.
Speaker 1:Alan Tudyk is great and I can't wait for this show man Nicholas Patel's back to do the score. They're good. They got everything that they could ever want.
Speaker 2:It's going to be tremendous, and this is the last season. Right yeah, just two seasons, because this is going to be tremendous and this is the last season, right yeah, just two seasons, because this is going to bleed directly into Rogue.
Speaker 1:One. They should just remake Rogue One. Have everybody be the same. Just redo the movie Too soon, too soon.
Speaker 2:Am I too soon? The Mandalorian? What's going on here?
Speaker 1:Okay, I thought we had a pretty definitive ending after season three, right, definitive-ish, definitive-ish. They just put him in a spot. Like you know, anything can happen.
Speaker 2:Well they Marvelified him Sure sure Okay.
Speaker 1:So to that point they Marvelified him right.
Speaker 2:Because that was part of the bigger thing.
Speaker 1:Here's my thing, what pitch meeting happened where they went into the room and they were like you know, this disney plus flagship show that's helping run the network, what if we'd made a movie out of that? And then I was just like, huh, show me the money, show me the money. But my, my big question is somebody made a point that I'm so mad that I kind of a little bit agree with on a television show it works. On a disney plus show, where your fan base is your fan base and people can get more invested, more invested as it goes on a big screen where mom and pop are out at the, out at the ticket stub place and they're like what movies are showing? The mandalorius and gragas are showing that's.
Speaker 1:That's like who the heck is going there? That doesn't have any prior knowledge or only, like you know, your base level star wars stuff, and looking at the, looking at the screen with all the movies, just like, yeah, I want to see that. Like I don't know if you just should have named this movie the mandalorian and just kept it simple. I don't think I it's weird. Like I think it's really weird, like I'm not, I'm not disagreeing. Then I feel like, and grogu just killed that title a bit like because who the heck is?
Speaker 2:Groku, yeah, nobody calls him that. They should have called it the Mandalorian Baby Yoda that could have sold him, Sold some seconds.
Speaker 1:I just why is this?
Speaker 2:a movie I don't know. This feels like.
Speaker 1:Even the trailer itself that they showed looks like the TV show, so why just not do it?
Speaker 2:This feels like I'm an acknowledgement of we do not possess enough steam to do a fourth season and we don't want a Game of Thrones it, so we're just going to do a movie.
Speaker 1:And also maybe they're capitalizing off the star power of Pedro Pascual, but that's going to involve him taking off the mask and he's great when the mask is on. Or is it, I don't know. I just why is this a movie?
Speaker 2:I don't know, it's crazy, and somehow the Razorcrest returned.
Speaker 1:Right, I thought they blew the heck out of that thing up the ship's back. I don't get it.
Speaker 2:When they first announced it, I was like wait, huh, they're doing a Mandalorian movie. This is interesting, this is crazy that they're doing this. But I mean, you know, the all the main players are still are still there, zeb's there again.
Speaker 1:The mandalosius and gregarious are meeting zaboo at this planet, and then my grandmother's just gonna have an aneurysm trying to say that time.
Speaker 2:I just I don't know. I I mean, like I said, they marvelified him like they, they, they took, they took everything out of him. That was what made season one so great that he was like detached from, like everything else. And then season two, they kind of brought him in a little bit, but it was still tasteful in season two yeah, and then season three. They were like just like, you're the most important mandalorian who's ever lived he's like I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1:Wow, this is crazy. And pedro pascal's just not on set anymore. Right like he just doesn't sit on that set he's gonna whip.
Speaker 2:He's gonna whip a lightsaber out in this movie, isn't he? Oh god?
Speaker 1:he's gonna do it. Where's the darksaber is? What's your name gonna be in this movie? Bo katan? Yeah, probably. Yeah, get katie sack off in there. Why would why not?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, he's gonna, he's, he's going to wield a lightsaber at some point. It's going to happen in this movie, I guarantee it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I just don't know why this just isn't the fourth and final season on Disney Plus. Call of the Day.
Speaker 2:He's going to look at Grogu pull out a lightsaber and he's going to go. I've got to get me one of those and then he's gonna. It's gonna be him hunting someone. He's gonna go. I can bring in warm, I can bring in cold and everyone's gonna go yeah that's in the contract negotiation for making these.
Speaker 1:I have an idea. What if they just made a new star wars thing that takes place after rise of skywalker, with some new characters? Isn't that crazy? Why would you? I don't know. Does it make sense? I don't know. Um, get a. Get a big actor that people love, that shows their face jared leto, nope jared.
Speaker 2:Leto is jared leto jim star wars jim star wars, jared star wars, jared star wars, he's morbius star wars jared let oh man, jared leto as jared leto in the star wars universe set after rise of skywalker that would be wild.
Speaker 1:James man gold's getting his movie, which is set whenever. Who cares? 100 years, 200 years, it's before, or it's the dawn, never mind, it's like thousands of years before.
Speaker 2:Cool daisy ridley's getting her movie. Great, there you go. There's your movie. That's taking place after rise of sky.
Speaker 1:What I'm saying like why can't I just get a new guy or girl or somebody or them. Why can't I get somebody new? Because last time we did that what's hunter shaffer doing. Make hunter shaffer a jedi. That'd be fun. That's a great pitch for any star wars movie. Well, she's in what's it called? She's in the new blade runner show with.
Speaker 2:With uh, michelle yo which I think just grab any actor and be like, just make them a jedi and that's your movie. Yeah, get gareth edwards. Make tom hanks a jedi. Who?
Speaker 1:make him a dark jedi who?
Speaker 2:playing against type. Oh, put him against denzel. That's the movie they finally get together and is a star wars movie.
Speaker 1:And you know, denzel's not doing an accent, he's just doing denzel yeah, it's gonna be on the craziest of planets that everybody else has a weird space accent. He's gonna be like my jedi. Everybody else has a weird space accent. He's going to be like my Jedi.
Speaker 2:He's going to go.
Speaker 1:He's going to look at a Padawan. I'm going to use you as my instrument. That's what I'm going to do. That gladiator movie is going to cook. I can't wait. How do they get Pedro Pascal, Denzel Washington in the same movie with Paul Mescal, with Joseph?
Speaker 2:Quinn Cause, pedro Pascal would just be saying yes to anything yeah, pedro pascal's whole thing of den.
Speaker 1:It's the denzel piece, but his thing is just being like the coolest guy. He just walks in, he's just, he's still him and everything. I love that guy me too.
Speaker 2:Um, and then marvel tv was the last thing. That was a weird order to these things, like I was waiting for like all the marvel stuff at one time and then, like they didn't do, any tv it wasn't a weird thing because they ended with the greatest thing oh yeah, but it was like wait, they're doing marvel studios and then disney and then star wars and then we're going back to marvel.
Speaker 2:That seems weird. Um, but we did so marvel television, so, um, you talked about the spider-man show that we're getting. Um, did a little bit of x-Men kind of upkeep, like X-Men's still happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, x-men 97, Bo DeMaio's still making this thing until he's gone.
Speaker 2:We still don't know what he did. Who knows, he also didn't get invited to the Emmy thing for X-Men, Like they're a little group that's going to represent the show, and he was like Like my representation reached out to Marvel and we haven't heard back. What did he do?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I just don't, I don't get it. Someone make a documentary. Yeah, because he made the greatest thing ever and I just don't know, like I don't know how they look at him and they're just like, yeah, you made the most compelling Marvel that we've ever gotten, some of the best characters that we've ever gotten. We have this X-Men that's literally about to come up next in this universe, that is going to be so important, so crucial, that it works and we're not going to use you for it. Nuts Wild.
Speaker 2:So crazy. But we got a new trailer that was officially released for Agatha all along and this show continues to surprise me. Apparently, the showrunner spoke on the fact that they're kind of taking a WandaVision approach, in the sense of how WandaVision was an homage to different eras of sitcom television. This is going to be an homage to different types of horror movies and TV and stuff, and I think that's a really great idea. It's fun.
Speaker 1:This trailer. It looks fun, the Wicked.
Speaker 2:Witch showed up, right? I was like is the Wicked Witch showed up, right? I was like is that the Wicked? You're the Wicked Witch from Wizard of.
Speaker 1:Oz. They even open on like a true detective vest. Yes, like I was like what's happening and why am I invested? Why am I interested?
Speaker 2:We're taking some swings and I like that but also like I hope, like if you're gonna do this, like with the homages, like the horror stuff, really you gotta lean into it like you can't especially yeah, full send that thing, full send especially since, like, we already got like a marvel horror thing, like we got where we'll fight night, and that was like proper horror like 50s, like 60s, like black and white horror, like.
Speaker 1:So if you're gonna do this like, you gotta like do it, yeah, do the slashes of the 70s and 80s, um and 90s, and then get into your like your true demonic horror that started to arise after that in like the 2000s, 2010s like exorcist, like you gotta.
Speaker 2:Well, this, I mean this character in that show, is like teed up for that type of stuff there's like demons in the show and stuff like aubrey plaza's here yep, yeah, I mean it continues to pique my interest. Um, we get there's, she's not coming, she's not in this show.
Speaker 1:Right, we get scarlet witch. No, there's.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so um, we got about a month till the show comes out, september 18th.
Speaker 1:They're doing the two episode thing yeah, two episode thing and then apparently one of these, the season finale, should come out like on halloween or like close to Halloween, it better.
Speaker 2:Like your whole show is built on that, so you have to Right. So, yeah, I mean I can't wait, yeah, I don't have much to say Now.
Speaker 1:I'm like this is a great example of like.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to it now.
Speaker 1:Just be dialed on your on theme and what you want and like kind of what the tone of this show should be and you're.
Speaker 2:And again, most important thing is character, like just make sure katherine han is like just fully fleshed out, fully dealt, like everything's good, you're good, and it feels like that they're gonna do, and also it also doesn't seem like they're gonna go like the anti-hero redeemable character route full send, like it just feels like she's just in this to get her powers back and she's just gonna keep being evil.
Speaker 1:Which is fine, and this could be like a backdoor, make sure Wiccan gets propped up for something else that's coming, most likely the Young Avengers.
Speaker 2:Or you tee her up for Midnight Suns.
Speaker 1:That's true, yeah, and put her on the team Now. It's like we can't trust her, could we? And then Blade's, like you, ready for that, mr Whitman.
Speaker 2:That's all he says, right, even if Dane Whitman's not there, right? It's just stock audio. Yeah, everybody's looking. What the heck who's he talking to? Who's he talking to Iron Heart? We got a couple more looks at that and this show feels like it's starting to round into shape. Yeah, yeah, I still don't know how the hood fits into this. Yeah me neither.
Speaker 1:And I know that like.
Speaker 2:The hood should fit into the other show, right, I mean thematically-wise.
Speaker 1:I guess the whole thing is supposed to be like technology versus magic, and where those two things? Ah, toy Story 5. Yeah yeah, what's the magic?
Speaker 2:The toys come to life.
Speaker 1:Eh, it's probably a Tuesday afternoon for Andy. That's not too cool. Yeah, I mean, technically-wise, this show looks pretty good. I mean, ryan Coogler is one of the best technical directors in Hollywood in my opinion, and he obviously I don't. He's probably going to take an episode or two. I think He'll probably direct.
Speaker 1:He might take one. He might take maybe the, either the premiere, the finale he might take himself. But I mean I will say ironheart herself, she looks good, I think she's gonna. It's more fun and I mean it's gonna give me a reason to re-watch. I I have so much trouble watching wakanda forever and it's not because I think that, like I think that's, I still think that's one of the best mcu movies that we've ever gotten Well, I mean, the movie is just incredibly sad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just have trouble, but there's so many cool bits in that movie. Yes, there's so much great stuff in that movie, but and I think that's a good point Like, where does the hood fit into all of this? My main concern is what's Riri's whole thing? Because I know she's like she gets kicked out of MIT for reasons Because she built an Iron man suit.
Speaker 2:I guess Shouldn't that just make them impressed. I think Tony Stark went there and he built Iron man, Right, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Who knows? Yeah, because I think what does she go? She goes and works with the Hood or whatever. I just don't see the tunnel through to be like the Hood's a bad person. I was like you should have known that. His name's the hood. His back has tattoos that are moving. That's the bad guy. There's never been a more. Yeah, that guy.
Speaker 2:That's the bad guy. They should bring paul blackthorne back. Oh, have you seen the man in this picture? He just travels the multiverse, yeah, looking for the hood. Any hood, any hood he can get his hands on, oh, my god, oh.
Speaker 1:And then he gets to the arrow verse have you seen the man in this picture?
Speaker 2:they call him the hood captain lance is there.
Speaker 1:He's just like good if he thinks he can get to my daughter. He, he's got another thing coming.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean it's going to be interesting. At the very least I do. Like I said, I think they might tie some of the Armor Wars stuff into the show at some point. Maybe you throw.
Speaker 1:Don Cheadle in this show to give him a little bit of something, are you?
Speaker 2:a Skrull in this one.
Speaker 1:No, oh, I forgot about that whole. Oh man, you made me think about Secret Invasion again. My head hurts. Oh my God, what did they do?
Speaker 2:One.
Speaker 1:Million Scrolls. It's the only good thing in that show. One Million Scrolls Taylor, oh him and Kingsley Ben-Adir that's the only two good things in that show. Kingsley Ben-Adir was acting way too well for what that show gave us. He really was. He was actually like I'm going to make a name for myself here and he did.
Speaker 2:And then he got killed by a million. Clark, speaking of characters we're never going to see again.
Speaker 1:What a waste, what an absolute waste. I know why just not make her Jessica Drew or something like that you can't do something fun.
Speaker 2:She's Emilia Clarke. She's Talos' daughter. Marvel somehow fumbled five Game of Thrones actors.
Speaker 1:Is there a Game of Thrones actor? That's not properly okay. What do you mean? Like that's in the MCU, that's fine, that's safe let's see.
Speaker 2:Maisie Williams was in New Mutants. What do you mean? Like that's in the MCU? That's fine, that's safe, let's see. So you have. Maisie Williams was in New Mutants. No good, cooked What's-her-name. Played Jean Grey. Sophie Turney played Jean Grey. Cooked, cooked Kit Harington I mean Richard Madden was fine as Icarus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a solid villain to throw in that movie. Now they're cooked. Now we're going to see them again. It's because of Harry Styles, wasn't it? Marvel looked at the post-credits scene and they're like nope.
Speaker 2:Yeah, emilia Clarke, and then the rest of them just haven't been in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until Bella Ramsey to get something.
Speaker 2:Make her Kitty Pryde. Oh, I mean Pedro Pascal is going to be in Fantastic Four.
Speaker 1:That doesn't count. He was pedro pascal before, right. Right, it's not that he was the character in game of thrones, he was pedro pascal before that, so now it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think of, like other thrones actors that like I would want to see in the mcu I feel like.
Speaker 1:And joseph quinn? We forgot about him. I mean, he was in game of thr.
Speaker 2:Right, right, I know Sort of I know, I still think your question about Kit Harington like what did he do? What about my guy? I can't pronounce his name, but the guy who played Jamie Lanser, what's going on there? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Who is he? What was the thing? Oh, we Well, I think even uh, what's his name that's going to do that Directed that movie. He even said that that's, that was supposed to be reverse flash and it just never, never came to fruition.
Speaker 2:Is he really? Is he just paying the penance for gods of Egypt? Is that what happened?
Speaker 1:No, we keep going. Somehow we talked about that movie got.
Speaker 2:He was in that movie and then, all of a sudden, his career was over. Yeah, what did?
Speaker 1:Gods of Egypt do to anybody. I mean it's not great, but I don't think it's his fault. No, no, that movie had a lot of bad things. Wasn't Chadwick Boseman in that movie?
Speaker 2:Yes, God, I feel like. I feel like he could be in some type of Marvel thing. I don't know what, though. Ooh, I don't know what, though?
Speaker 1:Ooh, you know who he could play. He'd probably make a pretty decent Mr Sinister, as like a cunning, conniving guy Like Jamie Lannister, like Jamie.
Speaker 2:Lannister, that would be pretty good. Actually, I would like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, or maybe as like Guy Rick or Trask or somebody like that.
Speaker 2:It would be funny if you cast them as Trask, because peter dinklage also played yeah, they should be in the multiverse, be like brother can we talk about my boy? Yeah, it's time. Um daredevil, we saved it. We saved it for the end. Um five suits. It's the new 18 episodes. A bit, that's a lot of suits, man. It's a lot of suits Not even counting his lawyer suit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on, man Six suits.
Speaker 2:Come on, man. Um yeah, so we got the daredevil.
Speaker 1:This is out of all the ones when they were like just put the trailer on the internet. This is the one Put the trailer on. This movie comes out or this show comes out in March.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just put the trailer Right. Just put the trailer. Let us watch the trailer 700 times. That would have had oof, Because Dog it looks so good.
Speaker 1:It looks like the perfect mesh between the MCU and then between the OG show.
Speaker 2:According to Vincent D'Onofrio, this show is going to be more violent than the Netflix show, which is just which Vincent D'Onofrio.
Speaker 1:This show is going to be more violent than the Netflix show, which is just which I'm like. In the first two episodes of that show, he bashed a man's head in with a car door and somehow this is going to be more violent.
Speaker 2:I mean this trailer played all the hits. I mean there's really no way to, other than that Matt's got the glasses.
Speaker 1:Check, yes, kingpin's being a evil guy. Check punisher. Check nelson and or foggy and karen check. Foggy's got a beard. Good stuff, because he's cool. Now he works for lamin and zach, so now he's in um, he's got his little zippy sticks.
Speaker 2:Yep, his suit looks incredible, great, incredible.
Speaker 1:Five of them. Five suits Tailos. Well, put the guy from She-Hulk back in that show. His tone doesn't even fit the Daredevil. Just put him in the show, though. Bring Turk Bennett back. Yeah, oh, there's no way that he can't. He has to be. He's the anchor being of the MCU actually. No, he's the anchor being of the netflix universe, right, somebody's like it's the same universe. Yep, he's still the anchor. But if he goes, the whole, you know, actually, if he goes, the universe goes immediately. There's no like thousand year gap immediate death come on d come on, you gonna do me like that.
Speaker 1:I'm on parole incredible no, we gotta talk about how luke cage really did my man dirty. Luke Cage was doing that on purpose. Come on man.
Speaker 2:Ditto threw his keys into the Long Island Sound.
Speaker 1:Right, like Luke Cage got him arrested again. Come on, man, didn't Iron Fish just knock him out?
Speaker 2:I can't even remember you gonna do me like that D. Come on the fact that he calls him D is hilarious.
Speaker 1:Oh, this trailer looks so good. It looks so good, it looks so good. It's great. New characters we got confirmation that Muse is going to be in this and Muse kind of messes with Daredevil's senses. He makes him see oh, that should be Muse's powers. He heals his eyes. Now he's not even Daredevil anymore.
Speaker 2:We got Bullseye in this also Proper Bullseye.
Speaker 1:Well, he anymore. We got bullseye in this also, and the proper bulls. Well, he's in a prison costume. You think they're gonna do the thing where he gets the adamantium skeleton? Be pretty cool, I'd be pretty cool, pretty cool man. And it comes out a month after, after brave new world. So antimanium, that adamantium is running rampant. Antimanium, antimanium. That's what defeated Cam. Unobtainium, no.
Speaker 2:No, no. How did James Cameron get away with that? No.
Speaker 1:Wait, who played the corporate guy in the first one? I don't even remember that guy was incredibly cast.
Speaker 2:You're telling me a movie that made $2 billion had the word unobtainium in it, james Cameron's bulletproof.
Speaker 1:I remember when people were making the argument. I can't remember any of the names. The movie made $2 billion. Shut up it made every single dollar.
Speaker 2:We got.
Speaker 1:White Tiger.
Speaker 2:White Tiger who unfortunately the actor passed away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's insane, that's nuts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know, I'm looking forward to seeing that character, though, in live action. That's gonna be super cool. Um, what's the punisher's deal in this? He's john berthold. What other deal would you need? Because he? He looks like he's about to take daredevil's head off. Oh well, do you think? You think he got snapped?
Speaker 1:punisher? Oh, that would be interesting, that would be kind of cool.
Speaker 2:And he just wants to murder thanos because like he's, he looks very disheveled yeah yeah, not from like, because we saw the set photos where he's like yeah, he's back, he's like short hair, yeah, but in the trailer we see him and he's. He looks like he's seen some things oh I didn't wait.
Speaker 1:Isn't that a thing? Wasn't that a rumor that a piece of the show takes place during the like during the snap after it happened? It makes sense rumor that a piece of the show takes place during the snap After it happened. It makes sense, like a little part of the show takes place while everything happened, and then he comes back and he's like Whoa.
Speaker 2:Where's my guns? So I can see either Punisher A being snapped and coming back or everyone around Punisher getting snapped and he just goes off the reservation. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So if you want to read the comics, I think what this is going to pull from is chip sadarsky's run a. It's a, it's the most modern run and I think it's very smart for b like. Here's this modern comic that also is incredible to kind of go off of and play off of, which leads right into devil's reign. Muses in that comic. Punisher plays a big role in that comic, like play the hits Kingpin. By the time Devil's Reign gets to there, he's the mayor of New York, like all pieces that this show is doing. So, I think, very smart, keep it simple.
Speaker 1:What I think you're gonna do in this show too is, like I said, right from that Chip Zdarsky run, you have Matt accidentally kill a guy, go into prison and kill a guy, go into prison and be like I can't murder anybody because I'm Daredevil, but I'm going to beat every single one of you within an inch of your life. Punisher runs rampant out in the streets. Muse is obviously pulling the strings, kind of, and he uses Bullseye to his advantage with Fisk, and then do you bring the Elektra actress back and have her do the Daredevil thing. Where she's Daredevil, I'm like who the heck is that wearing my costume? Yeah, I mean, who the heck is this, who's this punk and what is she doing here?
Speaker 2:God dang business.
Speaker 1:They've been very noncommittal about Electra, which I think is odd, or maybe not too odd for confusion because of Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just feels like they've been very like.
Speaker 1:Everybody came back, except for her, everybody.
Speaker 2:Not just the actress, but like the character of Elektra just hasn't been mentioned at all, which is which I think is weird. It's so integral to him.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, he's got a new love interest. But I think again like same thing that happened with Karen, like throw it off, he's got.
Speaker 2:He's got. It's incredible.
Speaker 1:I've never seen. Just like Foggy said I gotta get the blind thing going for me, he said you shouldn't say that.
Speaker 2:But I mean this show just looks incredible. There's really no other. If there's any concern that they're not gonna be able to capture the Netflix thing, I think that was put to rest.
Speaker 1:I mean there was concern, obviously, when the original synopsis came out and they were like what if he didn't suit up for four episodes? And what if we killed nelson?
Speaker 2:yeah, what if none of the?
Speaker 1:returning cast were in it right what if punisher wasn't in this thing? What if it were 18 episodes long?
Speaker 2:so maybe it should have been 18.
Speaker 1:So we uh, and they confirmed it's going to be at least two seasons yeah, yeah, I think they know that this it can run for as long as they need it to, are as short as they need to, but you do have to.
Speaker 2:If you're going to do a second season, you have to do a different title. No, you can't do born again, a second season.
Speaker 1:Well, just just call the show daredevil again. I'm thing daredevil again to dare to devil. It never doesn't work.
Speaker 2:It's always good daredevil again. When he's pretty good, daredevil again, good stuff. Daredevil resurrections no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Daredevil reloaded no, no, no, that's what they should name. The punisher, the punisher show when that comes out. Yes, the punisher reloaded, heck. Yeah, daredevil gods of egypt.
Speaker 2:No, what's the tradition name of the Punisher show when that comes out. Yes, punisher Reloaded, heck. Yeah, daredevil. Gods of Egypt. No, what the heck man Moon Knight. Gods of Egypt.
Speaker 1:They're doing the Marvel Zombies thing. It's Shang-Chi, katie and Jimmy War, the main characters. I think they said oh, that's the Shang-Chi sequel. Huh, I guess Shang-Chi gets bit and then his dad gives him the rings to stop it. How?
Speaker 2:does that?
Speaker 1:work, I don't know man.
Speaker 2:It's also four episodes right Four episodes, though that's a miniseries.
Speaker 1:That is a miniseries. They're trying to win an Emmy.
Speaker 2:That's a mini miniseries. Right and rated well, yeah, I'd hope so d23.
Speaker 1:It was good, it was real good I was.
Speaker 2:I just wish they would have just live streamed it live stream it or just put the trailers on the internet right, but also like they put some of the trailers on the internet, but not others only what was the only two?
Speaker 1:it was just.
Speaker 2:It was skeleton, crew and skeleton crew agatha percy jackson percy jackson uh, mufasa, um, and I think that was it, like they didn't do any of the like the movie stuff.
Speaker 1:Right put that thunderbolts trailer on because that thunderbolts trailer looks good. Man, I think they're gonna wait a little bit because it doesn't come out until what. True, it's for a while. But and brave new world just had a trailer, so it's. I guess that's fine. But why not do the Daredevil one was my big one that should have been the one that you should have put online. Maybe it'll be next week, who knows?
Speaker 2:that's it. That was a good time. You can follow us on Twitter at Project INF underscore pod. You can follow us on Facebook. You can follow us on YouTube at the Project Infinite Podcast. You can follow us on Instagram at Project INF underscore pod. You can follow us on Facebook. You can follow us on YouTube at the Project Infinite Podcast. You can follow us on Instagram At the Project Infinite Pod. Next week, maybe the girls yeah, we'll probably just do the boys next week, yeah, and finally get around to that Especially you know, with all the Anthony Starr was cooking, Especially with all the spinoff stuff that's coming with that show too we're not going to talk about the Acolyte Not yet, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 2:And then I don't know. There's stuff. We're in a lull now.
Speaker 1:Finally, after all the stuff, Knock on wood, because last time you said something like that here's 81 trailers in two weeks. I'll never forget that there was time you said something like that here's 81 trailers in like two weeks.
Speaker 2:I'll never forget that there was a time where you're like we don't got a lot to talk about. They were like what if every trailer came out in the next month? Yeah, um, yeah, so that's. We'll talk about the boys next week um season four and that's it. So I think that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't have anything else to talk about um, we already talked about Tom Hanks this week and Gods of Egypt.
Speaker 2:Gods of Egypt. Next week's Gods of Egypt retrospective. Yeah, it needs to be done. I don't know anything about that movie me neither maybe we should review it a movie that neither of us have any recollection of just watch it.
Speaker 1:No emotional connection what was that?
Speaker 2:no one knows. Um, yeah, so for me, from the man, let's pull from this week, let's pull from. Um man, man, I don't even know where to go with this. Um, jesus, from the, from the mr incredible the podcast, I'll take it, that's my guy yeah. Yeah, that was a pull I had to pull for that one. There were so many things I could have pulled from.
Speaker 1:I love that first Incredibles movie, like you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 2:They're super good. For the longest time they were the best Fantastic Four movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were and they might still be yeah.
Speaker 2:This guy hasn't seen Fantastic Four with Michael B Jordan before yeah, I have flame on cuz what are we? Some type of Fantastic Four? No, say that again. We gotta go, man, we do gotta go. Alright, guys, we'll see you next week for the boys, season 4. Until then, goodbye peace.
