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132 - Assembling the Ultimate Avengers Team With An Avengers: Doomsday CHARACTER DRAFT
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What if you had the power to assemble the ultimate Avengers team from the MCU roster? Buckle up as we embark on this thrilling adventure, inspired by a Screen Crush video, and set the stage with all the rules and stipulations to ensure a balanced selection. Court pitches the podcast an idea of an AVENGERS DRAFT. Using predetermined archetypes, we take all the current characters of the MCU and attempt to draft our best Avengers roster to take on the multiversal threat of Robert Downey Jr’s Doctor Doom. Find out which one of us puts together the best roster. Before that we talk the amazing Sonic 3 trailer and do a post mortem on The Acolyte.
From powerhouse heroes like Scarlet Witch and The Sentry to intriguing choices like Moon Knight and Elsa Bloodstone, our selections promise dynamic team rosters. We won't leave you hanging—envision thrilling scenarios where these heroes face off against Doctor Doom. This episode is packed with lively debates, imaginative team-building, and the engaging character dynamics you've been craving. Tune in for a fun-filled ride through the Marvel Universe! Timecodes are provided if you want to skip around to your topic of choice! Thank you to everyone who continues to support and don’t forget to subscribe to download new episodes as they become available and don’t be afraid to share a rating!
0:00 Intro
02:06 Sonic 3 Trailer!
06:40 James Spader to Return as Ultron
10:30 An Acolyte Post Mortem
18:37 The MCU Avengers Draft to take on Doctor Doom
01:04:07 Court Decides to Let Us Draft a VILLAIN
01:15:55 Signing Off & Rob Talks About FanExpo Canada!
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Speaker 2:It's the Infinite Podcast with Robin Kork the Cube. Yeah, hello everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Project Infinite Podcast. I threw the back in there. It threw me off the podcast where we talk about movies, comics, tv shows the movies that talk about the podcast. Alright, man, you know what. I've done this perfectly for 130 episodes. I'm allowed to flub one. It's fine. You know what the deal is.
Speaker 1:You know where you are, you know what this is, you know what you're here for, but we're having fun this week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a fun episode this week. I'm here. The voice you heard, obviously, is Court and Court. Like you said, we're going to have a little fun this week.
Speaker 1:I'm excited Basically. So I was on YouTube, as I am a lot, and came. Screen crush is one of their latest videos where they essentially were talking avengers, doomsday and they kind of were talking about who they think the avengers would be during that time. So shout out, screen crush always doing great stuff. Ryan airy is great, colton ogborn, all their, all, the, all the gals down there are amazing. So I said let me remix that a little bit. So shout out to them. They get full credit for this if they want.
Speaker 1:Um, but I decided to remix it a little bit and we're gonna kind of do a draft like a, like a proper nba nfl draft. Um, there's rules and stipulations which we'll get to after the news, um, but we kind of just wanted to build an avengers team with everybody in the mcu right now. Anybody that can possibly anybody that's been either hero, hero adjacent, anti-hero, adjacent could be drafted to our teams. There's stipulations, there's certain pieces you need to hit. We're not all going to be like you get Thor, captain Marvel no, we're not going to do that. So we have certain stipulations with things, but we're going to, first and foremost, have a lot of fun with this. Yeah. But first and foremost, here's some news.
Speaker 2:Yeah, only a couple bits of news this week Starting. First and foremost, we got to talk about the Sonic trailer. Why did it cook like that? Oh, it's incredible. So Sonic 3, obviously I want to say the finale of the trilogy, but I actually don't know.
Speaker 1:No, I feel like something like that's going to go way farther, past three movies. Just the way that they operate, especially with the backing of Paramount, they're going to get more out of that.
Speaker 2:I mean, if they keep making movies that look like this, they can probably just keep making movies forever, because this trailer was amazing, obviously with the debut of Keanu Reeves voicing Shadow, and this movie looks like it's going to be a lot of freaking fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah and dude, I told you right before we hopped on. I love when these universes get these properties and they're not either overtly serious or overtly jokey, or they this really nailed, they figured it out. They figured it out, they know exactly what the tone of this is going to be, and that's have a little fun and embrace how nonsensical it is that these CGI characters are in military bases with, like these Juilliard actors from years ago, Like that's where you're at have some fun.
Speaker 2:They're doing this the best way possible in terms of, like, the mixture of Sonic with the real world, because I think the first movie they were still trying to work that out and I don't think the movie was good, like there was elements of it that just didn't quite work. Obviously, sonic was by himself. You didn't have, like he didn't have, other CGI characters to bounce off. But now, like, obviously Sonic two gave us tails and knuckles and I think Sonic two was really, really great. And then obviously, bringing in shadow is like one of the last pieces, like they saw him and they saw him and introduced Amy. Yet, um, they still haven't introduced Amy yet, which I imagine they'll do probably after this movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean Shadow obviously was the big ticket item to make sure you got into that universe. I mean that was like making sure you get Thanos in the Infinity Saga. You need to make sure he's there.
Speaker 2:Again. Shadow's a product of this radical 90s early 2000s era.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 2:That gave us. You know comics did this. We talk about Venom all the time. Venom was a product of this Spawn. Yeah, like Batman had. Azazel, yeah, azrael, yeah.
Speaker 1:Or Azrael yeah.
Speaker 2:Like in the 90s, like people were like what if the hero but a little darker? And Sonic was no stranger to this. So they introduce Shadow. He has a gun, no gun in the trailer.
Speaker 1:I need a gun. And you know why I say I need a gun? Because he's being voiced by Keanu Reeves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's got Shadow typically packing heat Shadow, he's got slightly different powers than Sonic. I like the way that the trailer did his chaos control in this, because in the games he uses the chaos control to slow down time to make it seem like he's as fast as sonic, whereas this they use the chaos control to make him essentially teleport right, which is sick. It's a sick visual. Like it's very obviously it's very nightcrawler, um, which is super sick. Uh, shadow's motorcycle arrives in this trailer. He does an akira slide. Yeah, um, he got his jet boots. Um, it's just super cool. Like, again, it's just. You know, what I loved about the second sonic movie was like they were not afraid to just reach in the bag and just do sonic stuff right, which is you know we talked about borderlands last week. Like borderlands fell into like the regular video game movie trope of like let's try to make like a movie with kind of this video game, whereas, like, the sonic team understands what they're doing.
Speaker 1:And what they're making and they understand what the character is. It's like Fallout is not the same. They're both video games, but Fallout is not Sonic. They're two very tonally different products. So they understand what they're making and that's the biggest compliment I can give them. You took this character and you had two routes. I mean the wherewithal to change the character design after the dang product was already made is just absurd.
Speaker 2:Saved the entire franchise 100%. It did, yeah. And then obviously Jim Carrey's back as Robotnik Again. I say this all the time it's the only time he's ever done a sequel has been these Sonic movies Right, so it's kind of crazy. Obviously, idris Elba's back as Knuckles, which is great.
Speaker 1:He was having a lot of fun in that trailer. He got a lot of play in that trailer too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're bringing, you know, and inevitably this movie ends probably the same way that Sonic 2 ended, with Shadow kind of being not an ally, because Shadow's never been a full-on ally of Sonic, but he'll be ally adjacent, by the end of the movie. Right, you know? Because that's ultimately his destiny. And I'm super, I would keep watching these forever. Yeah, as long as they keep making them. Got some Marvel news, so it was announced over the weekend that James Spader will be officially. This is from Hollywood Reporter reported this James Spader will be returning as Ultron in the Vision series, which we also learned is going to be the finale of the trilogy of the Scarlet Witch and Vision essentially, which contains WandaVision, agatha all along, and this Vision show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think about this on a two-pronged front.
Speaker 1:Number one is I think they probably were never even remotely think about this on a two-pronged front. Number one is I think they probably were never even remotely thinking about this being a trilogy, and I think what happened is they needed a cell to get james spader back. So they were like what, if we have this grandiose finale and vision, which is going to garner my second point of now, they're going to have to put more into this vision project than I think they they were and I I even in my head was like I wasn't really particularly over the moon about a vision product project after, after Wanda vision. I you know he had, yeah, he had solid finality for vision himself, like I mean post-mortem finality, which is really interesting concept. But now I was really interesting concept. But now I was as soon as I saw james gray, I was like okay, now I'm now, and these are the conscious decisions they were making in the infinity saga. I'm like now I'm actually thinking about this is credible, like you know what this also makes me think?
Speaker 2:it makes me think that they're really confident in this agatha show yeah, yep 100.
Speaker 1:and we kind of sang the praises of the trailer from the agatha show where we were like, hey, this looks pretty solid, pretty solid, this looks pretty and it looks contained fun. It looks horror fun, like tonally. It just understands what it is Like. It's gonna be a theme of like. When projects understand what they're trying to do, it helps. It helps when you're not. It helps when you're not lying to yourself or trying to appease something else from an outside force in your universe.
Speaker 1:And I think also like retroactively making these three shows a trilogy just strengthens my belief that they're, they're team um wanda to come back as as like the alpha, yeah, marvel character there's a very good chance that and oh, feige's a genius for this too, because we keep talking about it like the anchor being, who's going to be the anchor being in the mcu. I think he wants this dialogue between fans of like. Who should it be? Like you know? Naturally you could say that it's iron man, but why couldn't it be the scarlet witch? Like you know? You see how other universes saw like, thought about why it could it not be dr strange, like we see how afraid the illuminati was of dr strange like it very much could be. It could be peter parker, like of you know of how many spider-men and like the web of spiders and after across the spider verse, we know that everything's canon, so it could be Nick Fury. It could be Nick.
Speaker 2:It could be Gaia no, it's not. No, it's not, it's actually not, it's not. It could be Talos no, he's well, he's dead already. Yeah, and the universe is going to end. No, not Ben Mendelsohn. You're not talking to the cops, are you, mate? But, um, no, I think it's cool. I mean, the first thing I said to you was like isn't it wild that James Spader's literally done nothing in the last ten years for being such an incredible actor? It's been Blacklist and it's been Ultron, that's all he's done, um, but it's cool that he's coming back. I think there's a lot of interesting things that you can do with Ultron and Vision. One of the best parts, honestly, of Age of Ultron is that last little back and forth that Ultron and Vision have. So I think it would be cool to revisit that, as Vision has all these lived experiences now in Ultron. We don't know what Ultron's been up to Surfing the web.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's got to stay off the web. The last time he surfed the web, he wanted to end the human race.
Speaker 2:No good, no, don't say it, don't say it. So I'm super excited. And then, yeah, I mean we're getting Agatha in a little over two weeks, yeah, which is a lot of fun. I'm really excited for that Same. I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:Me too, I wasn't. And then that second trailer hit and I'm like wait a second. This looks interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. And then I mean, the only other thing I wanted to talk about was like kind of just like a post-mortem on the Acolyte, because that kind of like just came across. We talked about it briefly last week, but there's been this groundswell of like hashtag renew the Acolyte. Where were all you guys when the show came out?
Speaker 1:Right, first of all, and I mean it's both sides of the coin, because there was people that wanted that show canceled before the show came out, and now there's people coming out of the woodwork. And this goes to one of the points I always make about. And we do what we do. Right now we still review these things, but at the end of the day, this doesn't matter. What we do doesn't matter view these things, but you know, at the end of the day, like this doesn't matter, like what we do doesn't matter, we're just having fun talking about things that we like don't like whatever it may be, at the end of the day, we need to start taking things for what they are instead of what they should have been.
Speaker 1:If we start approaching more like that, like everybody would be a little bit more happy in their lives, yeah, and not want things canceled instead of, like I don't know, going and sitting on like your porch and just enjoying life a little bit more. Like yeah, that's probably a better approach to life. But you know it's unfortunate what the show and the creators have gone through. Like it, it is unfortunate. Like you know, perhaps I treated you too harshly, possibly like we don't agree with show choices, but we talked about it last week. Like technically that show is sound like, oh, there's a lot of great stuff. Like that show had potential for days. Like that show had a lot of potential to do a lot of things too and it still could you know if it got more seasons, but we'll never know, unfortunately yeah, and I know there's that.
Speaker 2:uh, there's that rolling stone opinion piece about essentially like star wars, like is never going to evolve if the fans don't evolve, and I think there's definitely something to that because there's such vicious backlash to anything. That's not what was um, and I think you know that's kind of hamstringing the, the creative teams over there, like, yeah, you know, every time we try to do something new, like the fans are just so vicious toward it, right? You know what I mean. I mean even you know even the mandalorians kind of suffering from this now, um, in some respect, and you know, I mean the only thing that people were remotely kind of suffering from this now in some respect, and you know, I mean the only thing that people were remotely kind of okay with was probably Ahsoka, and even people had issues with that until the Hayden Christensen happened and then people were like alright, this is awesome again.
Speaker 1:And then, as soon as the last couple episodes got there and you know I still had problems with the last few episodes I kind of said there felt like there was this artificial touch to those last few episodes though to those last few episodes specifically like it didn't like andor has a filmic finish to it, like there's a filmic understanding of andor versus ahsoka, felt like and to the point. And this is and marvel uses this point a lot like you know why we're not shooting in like Texas? Because you guys can't keep anything off of the internet. That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean it was an expensive show and you know, obviously it just never caught on. It just never caught on, but at the same time, just everyone chill it on, um, but at the same time just everyone chill. It's basically it's basically, you know, especially star wars like chill, everyone needs to chill and just let let things blossom and let things.
Speaker 1:you know, stop stop being mean to actors, stop being mean to like creative folks, like, yeah, they're doing their best and you know how tough, you know how much of a miracle it is that a project gets made, yeah, like a mirror, and all these people that are, you know, like saying, like there's people online that are like death to Kathleen Kennedy works, like you actually have a problem, like you actually there's something genuinely wrong with you. Like the fact that any of this is even made is just absurd. And I mean I talked about it whenever. I can't remember what we were talking about. Um, it was something star, where we did a Star Wars episode and I, I talked about that guy I met, where he, you know he's part of this kind of like group and they go to children's hospitals, and I'll never forget the words he said and I think about that so often now.
Speaker 1:Where he's like sometimes I just stay off the internet and he's like I'm a I'm, I mean I, I, I do this kind of, you know, as like a side gig of like I'll go to these hospitals and dress up like a Jedi and like we'll perform for the kids and like he said, too much of Star Wars is like I wish people I. I asked him. I said what's your favorite Star Wars movie? He said I don't have anything because I love everything. And I said you love everything. He's like yes, why can't we just love the thing instead of trying to criticize every piece of it?
Speaker 2:and you know what is interesting about that too and and you know, kind of is a great kind of counter not counterpoint, but a great kind of alongside to that. So I talked last week that I went to fan expo in toronto and cameron ham is there and he had a panel and he said, you know, the reason he's so in love with what he's doing now with star wars is because now he um, um, basically. He basically said, like it's the most humbling feeling in the world now because he feels like he gave something new. And now he has, like kids that are growing up saying that Cal Casas is their favorite Jedi, and that made me like, take a step back and be like. This is why, like, the new stuff is so important, because man, it's the.
Speaker 1:It's the Freddie Prince, the freddie prince jr thing that he talked about in that interview. Where he started. He started going in where he said like you know, none of this is real like they. I watched the. I watched the screen crush video too, where colton augurn was talking about it, because I'm not going to name the youtuber, but there's one specific star wars youtuber that is on the other end of the spectrum, that everything is bad unless Hayden Christensen's in it. So you know all that he was talking about.
Speaker 1:Like the canon doesn't exist. It doesn't matter that it doesn't that it exists, none of this matters. It doesn't really like your logic. And why was kind uh coyote moody there at this time? And it doesn't matter who cares, who gives a flying f, it does not matter like, at the end of the day, the thing itself is absurd.
Speaker 1:We're talking about space wizards with lightsabers. It's stupid, it's dumb, but what you should take of it is the love that people got from it from 77. And kids, like you said, you know why Star Wars isn't growing up with you. It's because it's for kids. That's why it's not growing up with you per se. And we try to give stuff like Andor, and that's great and, like you know, we start to do a little bit more mature things, but you're trying to take your child's brain to put it on the new thing. That's not how it works Like this isn't, unfortunately, like it's for everybody, and I'm sorry that you're cynical about the world and your child you know, when I was up there and and he said that during the panel, like it, like the like like the light bulb like the light bulb flipped my head, I was like man, like even me, who I feel like how I have a pretty rational kind of like thought process behind, like anything that's like fandom related.
Speaker 2:like even me, like I never thought to myself like yeah, there's probably some like 12 or 13, like 12 or 13-year-old kid playing Jedi Fallen Order and like Cal Kestis is the coolest Jedi I've ever seen. Like I've never even thought about that you know what. I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's why I keep saying, like the one thing I wish I hope Star Wars does is like give us a prime brand spanking new Jedi for the kids now. Like, yeah, jedi for the kids now, start over, just give us a brand new Jedi. Get freaking Jacob Elordi.
Speaker 2:I don't know, just get somebody, not for nothing. Not everyone plays video games. You could make that. You could make it, cal Kestis.
Speaker 1:Cameron Monaghan what he just turned 30 or he's 29? He's young, he's pretty freaking young.
Speaker 1:You could absolutely make Cameron Monaghan Maybe end the third game and then, hey, even he's pretty freaking young, like it's like you could absolutely, absolutely, yeah, maybe end the third game and then like hey, like here's your deal, like you're now like you see how people received him as as jerome and gotham, like yeah, he is people like that guy, people really like him, so he said he uh, up there in the panel he said he did, he, he, he did so many like previous star wars auditions that he got like turned down for that.
Speaker 2:He just thought it was never going to happen. And then Respawn came to him with the Fallen Order thing, I think. He said he auditioned for Han Solo for the Solo film, didn't get it. He auditioned for minor parts in the new trilogy Didn't get any of them. So he thought that the Star Wars thing was never going to happen until Fallen Order. And then, lo and behold, that literally launches him into the Star Wars universe.
Speaker 1:And helps Star Wars overall.
Speaker 2:Yeah 100%, but that was it. I just talked about the Acolyte a little bit. Now let's move on to some Avengers drafting. Yes, this is your brainchild, so I'll let you explain the rules.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, we are going to basically do a draft where we are going to talk about I'm going to flip a coin. Yeah, we are going to flip a coin. I was going to have Siri do it over the airways, but I think a proper coin is really retro. I like that.
Speaker 2:Are we doing a snake-style draft If?
Speaker 1:you want to. We could Maybe not just because it's two of us If we had more people, the snake draft applies a little bit better, so we can just go back and forth. We can do every other. I will let you get the first pick, though. So I don't have to flip a coin, you do not have to flip a coin, because this was my idea, so I will let you get the first pick.
Speaker 2:Explain the rules.
Speaker 1:Give us the rules, the structure of this team you will get. I just added something in here too, there's a little bit of a curveball for you. So you get seven core picks. These are your seven Avengers. You have a leader. You have a powerhouse, you have a genius, you have a god magic, mystic monster. The Eternals are included in there. They're allowed to be included in there Technically to everybody on Earth. They were gods.
Speaker 1:You have a specialist. This specialist can be somebody like Gamora, your Hawkeyes, somebody like that which is Shang-Chi too. Maybe Marvel should make Shang-Chi too. Shang-chi also the best at what you should do. And then you have your super soldiers. So any augmentation of any type to you. And then your street level. So, even though Luke Cage has power, he operates in the streets You're going to have three reserve picks after that. So your reserve picks are going to be one more powerhouse, one more specialist and one more god magic, mystic monster. You're going to get a multiversal wild card. That's not in the 616. So your X-Men, your OG, fantastic Four, your Blades, your Daredevils, things like that. I just added another one.
Speaker 2:Okay, I see.
Speaker 1:You're going to get an anchor being in there, too that was not previously picked. So as long as this person was not picked, this is the anchor being for your universe, and then you're going to get a manager.
Speaker 1:So, your Nick Fury's your Val's, your Thunderbolt Ross's. I even threw Hank Penn, janet Van Dyne like people who would have led the Avengers if they were, you know, of age at that time. My girl, elsa Fallsworth, I love, oh man, I love Olivia Colton. She's the best. Here are your rules and restrictions 10 picks, one multiversal pick, one anchor being one manager.
Speaker 1:Multiversal pick cannot be a 6-1-6 variant. So if you already picked Peter Parker, Tom Holland, you can't pick Tobey Maguire, peter Parker, you can only have two OG Avengers. So from the original six, you can only have two of them on that team, which you only need to worry about. Three of them anyway. Yeah, okay, like I said, you get one powerhouse powerhouse, one specialist, one. God is your last three picks? Um, all of them must currently be alive. They all must be. So you can't take iron man or steve rogers, they need to be alive. Like as of this second um, your specialist and your super soldier can overlap, and I'm thinking of the thunderbolts for this, because I can probably look at bucky as a as a specialist, but he is a super soldier, so you could have possibly have Taskmaster and Red Guardian on the same team if you want. Yeah, I would, if the project is officially announced. Come on, man. If the project is officially announced, they are on the board.
Speaker 1:And my example is like Wonder man. Wonder man we all we know is that channel favorite. We didn't even talk about Watchmen. We have to talk about Watchmen one week. That show is phenomenal. But like Yahya Abdul-Mateen as Wonder man, blade, what's up? Blade? Yeah, unfortunately. Yes, no all-powerful character can be the leader of your team, because the argument can be made why do they need anybody else? So current Loki can't be the leader of your team. It's just, it's not fair, it's not fair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then whatever manager that you pick, you can't, they cannot also be in the fight, they're like quarterbacking.
Speaker 2:Right, or they're coaching. Essentially they're Nick Fury. They're Nick Fury from the Avengers. They're Nick Fury from the Avengers. They're getting the team together, exactly. Okay, I'm on board. I'm ready. Yes.
Speaker 1:Am I going first? Yes, go first. Give me your leader.
Speaker 2:The leader. The leader. I thought a lot about this. There were probably like three-ish characters. I was circling for this and I settled on Captain Marvel.
Speaker 1:That's good, that's great. That's great to amazing.
Speaker 2:I think she progressed a lot as a leader in the Marvels. She put aside a lot of her arrogance and a lot of her. That movie's pretty good man. That movie does a lot for Carol. I feel like that doesn't get talked about enough. I feel like at this point where she's at comes from a military background tactician, she's at comes from a military background tactician, she's learned not to just punch things. And I'll see who you pick. But I can tell you after the other characters that I was kind of thinking between. But I settled on Captain Marvel as my team leader.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good pick. I'm going to go with Star-Lord as my leader.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:To your point about the progression. I love how far he's come and I mean we've we've talked about it like how, how incredible and special guardians 3 was just on an acting level purely, and just his resonation with like having a team and like a big part of a leader is like not only you picking people up, but like you being so far along as a leader that people are willing to pick you up, and that's what they did a lot of the times in that movie, especially in the beginning part where he was just so distraught about Gamora Like they still willingly will go make sure he's okay, which I think that's special. I think he's smart enough and like the thing he kind of reversed Scott Lang in the universe where he started as that bumbling idiot but now he's super credible. That's a great pick and super self-sacrificial.
Speaker 2:And he is a good tactician.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a great tactician. Hey, I was doing those huddles in the Guardians of the Galaxy game.
Speaker 2:Well, and I mean one of the things that you know, one of the kind of throwaway lines in Infinity War was my plan. Yeah, you know, that was his plan to get the glove off of Thanos, right? I mean, he undid it himself, right?
Speaker 1:I mean again, it's the simplicity of movies. But what was the plan from Guardians 3? Save Rocket. That's the only plan that we have.
Speaker 2:Whatever it means, he was ultimately committed to it, right. And he was To.
Speaker 1:That's a great pick, so Star-Lord will be the leader of my team.
Speaker 2:That's a great pick, man. I really like that one. Do you want to go Snake? If you want, we can go Snake, we can go. That can mix some things up, sure.
Speaker 1:All right, my powerhouse will be the first of the OG Avengers off the board. That'll be Thor. I just think it's too simple. It's one of those things where it's right in your face. I mean, I'm taking somebody that's been alive for 2,000 years, somebody that's been ready to fight any conflict. You call Thor, everything will be good, dandy and fine. It's one of those no-brainers for me and I think it equates for your Captain Marvel pick for your powerhouse of like. I kind of took a hit straight up power-wise with having it be Star-Lord, but then I make up for a lot of it by having Thor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean he's a little soft now. He's got a kid now. No, he's still Thor. He's got the axe and the hammer. Does have the axe and the hammer. That's a great point. I was circling Thor for obviously another one.
Speaker 1:And he keeps getting more powerful and more powerful and more powerful as time goes on.
Speaker 2:I need that. That yeah, um, powerhouse. This one I didn't put as much thought into as as some others. Um man, man, that thorpe egg is great. Um, powerhouse, powerhouse. You know what I'm gonna stick? I think I'm gonna stick girl power here and I'm gonna pick she hulk. That's good, I'll do. I'll do respect to my, to my guy bruce, but he's just not in a position right now where I feel like he's as formidable I think She-Hulk. Obviously you get her incredible strength and durability and a bunch of other things, but she can also be Jen and she can also be wicked smart.
Speaker 1:Wicked smart, my boy's wicked smart.
Speaker 2:Hopefully by this point in her career, by the time we're fighting Doctor Doom, she's a seasoned hero. She's done some punching with some various characters.
Speaker 1:She's going to be in Cat 4, right? I hope so.
Speaker 2:This is like a Batman.
Speaker 1:Hulk movie. I think they're all just put them all in the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm going to stick with She-Hulk. I'm going to go. That's going to be my pick for my powerhouse. I like it. So, moving on to Genius, eh, I am going to pick. Can I do this? Can I pick Doctor Strange?
Speaker 1:Sure, because that was my pick. Go ahead Snake Draft. Snake Draft is nice, but that's why I always have a backup for my pick. Why'd you pick Doctor Strange?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, on top of his vast magical prowess as the sort of not the Sorcerer Supreme, but I mean obviously, just incredibly. You know, yeah, he's a genius Right, it belies the word genius you know, able to go toe to toe with Tony Stark and Infinity War in terms of their brain power. Has seen, has seen the universe, has traveled the multiverse as well. One of the few characters in the MCU at this point that has traveled the multiverse, it might just be him and America Chavez and Scarlet Witch and Peter Parker is brushed with it, but he has not traveled the multiverse yet. He knows what he's getting. He knows what he's in for when Doctor Doom eventually shows up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going with Doctor Strange. That was my first pick, but I'm going to remix my pick. There also is a genius and who said I couldn't have two Thors on my team Because I'm going to pick Jane Foster. Especially in a multiversal setting, I'd like an astrophysicist with me and also possibly somebody that has the power of Thor. Now you're probably asking didn't she just die? No, she's in Valhalla. She didn't. Technically, she's not dead. She's in Valhalla, and I believe the end of the movie did say Jane Foster will return, if I'm not mistaken. Well, they said that about Kang too. It's different. She didn't do anything, Not that we know of For sure. That's just Natalie Portman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's great. That's a great pick. It's a tremendous pick. I love it. Okay, while you do your next pick, I'm going to write ours into this little note.
Speaker 1:I have my team written in my notes. Alright, I'm just going to put it in here. Okay, sounds good. Yeah, this is a fun thing that we might post at one point. This is a fun. These are who the Avengers should be. Now we're going to go to the gods. So your gods, your god, magic, mystic, monster For this. I'm always going to scream this to the end of the day because of how much I love Flash. You always should make sure that you have a speedster with you and I'm going to pick Makari.
Speaker 1:I mean one of the most powerful Marvel characters in Icarus. She was handling quite well and it was to the point in that movie multiple times where people said it's Icarus, we don't have a chance, and she was holding her own with Icarus.
Speaker 2:So that will be my pick. Uh, get a speedster on my team. It's good. It's a good pick. Um, I was, I was praying and hoping you weren't gonna go the route that I'm going, and I'm glad that you left her on the board and I'm picking the Scarlet Witch. Yeah, it's great, it's phenomenal. Um, um, I mean, I well, so I need to say about this character she's she's incredible.
Speaker 2:she is gonna hopefully you know we've been seeing these praises, um, since multiverse of madness that it felt like they were serving her up to be kind of like the main character of this next phase of marvel movies. Um, and we'll see if we get her in this Agatha show. I don't know, I would assume she's going to show up in this Vision show. I have a feeling too, if the plan is to make this a trilogy, she has to show up.
Speaker 1:I think before, like I said, both Agatha and the Vision show were going to be just very much fun one-shots, but now I think they're going to be like they're going to they're going to fast track Wanda back into the MCU with these two shows.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. Um, and now I just have Dr Strange and Wanda on the same side, captain Marvel on top of that. Dr Doom, you're in trouble, pal. Um. So yeah, I'm, I'm picking the Scarlet Witch, that's good. And now I move on to my specialist, and this is tough.
Speaker 1:I am. I'm a counter for who I think you're going to pick for this.
Speaker 2:I don't even know who I'm going to pick. So if you have an idea I sure don't I am. There's a couple on here that I kind of want to flirt with, but I don't you know what I'm going to. I'm going to do, I'm going to do a fun one for this, because I feel I feel pretty happy with my roster right now, that this person might just be able to chill, and I don't know how she necessarily fits into a fight with Dr Noon, but I'm going to pick Elsa Bloodstone.
Speaker 1:That's fun. From the Elsa Bloodstone bloodline, that's a good thing to pick. I mean, she's a specialist, she's a specialist yeah.
Speaker 2:She's a monster hunter. Yeah, master, monster hunter. How does this fit in with a Doctor Doom fight?
Speaker 1:I don't know, but who knows, who knows, I mean, what is what business does? Like black widow have against loki, you know what I mean. Like yeah, true, right so say I'm picking out some bloodstones. That's good. Um, my specialist that I'm gonna pick is moon knight mark specter nice, we both went spooky with our specialist. Yeah I just think, in terms of military background, um, he's the best at having multiple personalities. So, and this guy is powerful, he's real, real, dang powerful.
Speaker 2:You just got to be careful that he doesn't flip switch into the. I want the fun.
Speaker 1:I want the fun I just think him and thor and star lord on, because, and when I get into like into my bench a little bit, I think it's going to be fun, and that's specifically why I have star lord, because star lord's like one of his best feats is like being able to control like people that shouldn't be able to be controlled Not controlled, but like leading people that shouldn't be able to be led in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2:Also, you got the Thor Star-Lord thing back, which is quite fun. I enjoy that.
Speaker 1:I'm also imagining we're thinking marketing too.
Speaker 2:I think we're not just thinking like I'm also like just picturing how Makari fits into all this, I think it would be oh, you know what would be hilarious If one of Mark's personalities fall in love with Makari.
Speaker 1:I feel like that would be just absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 2:I like that we both went like spooky, like Midnight Suns-ish, with our specialist pick.
Speaker 1:And then I would move on to my street level Super Soldier.
Speaker 2:Super Soldier.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, level no, super soldier, super soldier. Oh yeah, I forgot about my super soldier. Come on, man, my super soldier. I will keep very simple. Hmm, will I keep it simple though? Ooh, this just got a little interesting, he said will I keep it simple? I probably won't. For my super soldier I'm going to pick Robert Reynolds of the Century, because, technically, using the Thunderbolts rules he is technically a super soldier, he's just the super soldier.
Speaker 1:Wow, I hate that I had to do that one to you, but your team is looking kind of strong so I needed an absolute tank on my team.
Speaker 2:That's a great and.
Speaker 1:Robert Reynolds is the definition of a tank.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean there's a lot of issues that arise with this injury.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of issues that arrive with my team as a whole. My team has issues. One of my teammates is dead. Your team is very volatile.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is I love it.
Speaker 1:I love the chaos energy.
Speaker 2:It's fun. My team is much more controlled.
Speaker 1:And the Scarlet Witch. She's controlled now she's reformed. Well, you have Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch on the same team, remember what happened last time. They got along. At the end she killed herself Out of heroism, and the multiverse is still in trouble. It's fine. What's my team's big thing? Relationships, I don't know. Yeah, there's a lot. The Thor and Jane thing is going to be. They're cool, they love each other. They would have been together if she didn't pass away or go to Valhalla.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So my super soldier, she didn't pass away, yeah, or go to Valhalla, yeah. Um. So my super soldier, I'm I didn't overthink this and I'm taking Bucky. Um, I need, I need a little bit. I need a steady hand in this group and you have a.
Speaker 1:You have, you have a technical vet now like not like a mystical vet. And how much of a vet is Dr Strange? He's been doing this for like eight years. It's not like he's been doing this for like 50 years yeah, I'm relying, I'm relying a lot on captain marvel.
Speaker 2:Like, I feel like captain marvel and bucky can kind of co-captain this, sure, like, keep things, keep things level, keep everyone in line. You know he can, him and elsa bloodstone can hang out on the sideline while they're fighting dr doom. They can have a drink. That's fair, um. So, yeah, I'm picking, I'm picking bucky for my super soldier. Very fair, um, street level, a street level. I'm not, I'm not gonna do it. I know who you want to do. Yeah, I know, but I'm not, I'm not gonna. Um, I am going to pick the k bishops to green for this particular battle, um, street level. All right, let me. Let me ask you this before I make this pick would you consider sam street level? That's disrespectful to sam, okay? Um, in that case I am. You know what? Screw it. I'm gonna take the punisher. That's fine. That's fine. I need a maniac with a machine gun yeah.
Speaker 1:To just. He would have fit my team so much better too, which I think is hilarious.
Speaker 2:He would have, but I need someone to mow down heaps of Doom bots. Yeah, and I feel like the Punisher is well-equipped. Right, he's going to get machine guns, probably a bazooka. He'll get his hand on some grenades. He'll get a Dr Doom Doombot arm chopped off that he'll retrofit into a weapon. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1:That's fun and fair. Yeah, I'm picking the Punisher. Okay, last pick of the first round, I guess Mine would be. It's contractual obligation. I have to take Daredevil. I can't not. I was going to take Luke Cage, but I promise you I'm going to make up for all this, oh. I guess it's your go again let's just run through our team real quick ok, yeah, so on your team, star-lord is your leader, which is tremendous.
Speaker 2:Thor is also on your team. Two Thors are on your team. You have Thor and you have Jane Foster. So I guess Thor doesn't get the hammer and the axe, he just gets the axe.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's more than enough, and the more time passes, he gets more powerful.
Speaker 2:And she gets, I guess, reforged Mjolnir that she can split into fragments and whatever the hell she was doing in that movie. So you get two Thors, you get Makkari, which is fun. You get Moon Knight, which is also fun. You get the Sentry, which is spooky, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's actually the spooky pick is getting the Sentry, because I don't know what that guy's about. Yeah, what if the Void shows up? He doesn't even know what he's about.
Speaker 2:What if the Void? And then what if Moon Knight goes schizophrenic and he joins Dr Doom? And then you have the Daredevil, the Daredevils, the Daredevils, which is great. And then my team, so my team, is led by Captain Marvel, carol Danvers. She-hulk is my powerhouse, just the, you know, just the powerhouse, the running back y'all to go remember the titans. Doctor Strange is my genius. Scarlet Witch is my mystic slash magic user. Elsa Bloodstone is my specialist Master. Monster Hunter.
Speaker 1:I wanted to make sure I'm going to try to get one of these randos. There's a specific one. I need to make sure, like I'm going to try to get one of these like Randos. Yeah, randos on the team, there's a specific one I need to get on here.
Speaker 2:Bucky as my super soldier and Frank Castle, the Punisher, as my street level the Punisher. Well, we did do that with our street level picks the Sand Devils, the Punisher, the Punisher. Again, I'm just imagining just.
Speaker 1:Is Wanda a super soldier?
Speaker 2:In a manner of speaking, I suppose she would be. But yeah, the Punisher. I'm just imagining just hordes of Doom bots. I'm imagining just the game Doom.
Speaker 1:But it's the Punisher.
Speaker 2:That's right. Or like Gears of War, like Gears of War horde mode, but it's the Punisher versus Doom bots and everyone else on the team is like why is the Punisher fighting all the Doom bots?
Speaker 1:Why is the Punisher fighting the Doom bots?
Speaker 2:Because he's a lunatic he is a lunatic Jesus. Is he going to try and fight Doctor Doom? No, he's just fighting Doom bots.
Speaker 1:That's fair. Yeah, those are 2. Thor is like. That's like the Spurs in the late 90s when they had David Robinson and Tim Duncan on the team. Dang.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's pretty good. All right, I guess it's your go again for our reserves.
Speaker 1:So our reserves. So you get one powerhouse, one specialist and one god magic mystic monster. You get one powerhouse, one specialist and one god magic mystic monster. My powerhouse pick that I will go with will be I am going to. I need some actual power on this team Because we're solid, we're a good roster, but I need a unit on this team. I'm going to go with for this. I'm going to go with Monica Rambeau.
Speaker 2:I was circling that with my other power up Like my.
Speaker 1:Instead of She-Hulk, I was thinking about Monica, I think two, thors, monica and Century, plus Makari on top of that is running around. Yeah, and then Moon Knight Daredevil, star Lord, on the ground, crawl around, crawl around that. And then Moon Knight Daredevil, star-lord on the ground, crawl around, crawl around.
Speaker 2:That's a great one. I like that a lot.
Speaker 1:We'll just go back and forth for the second round.
Speaker 2:Okay, so my go on the powerhouse man. I was really banking on getting Spectrum in the second round here.
Speaker 1:Now you threw me for a loop and she's like Jokic, she's going to turn out to be an MVP.
Speaker 2:Man. I don't know how I ended up. I ended up with a female heavy roster and it's going to continue here Because I'm going to pick Quake Dang it dude.
Speaker 1:Yes, I sniped one from him, oh man that hurts in ways you couldn't even understand.
Speaker 2:I from him. Oh man, that hurts in ways you just you couldn't even understand. I'm gonna take daisy here.
Speaker 1:That's so good with my power. She literally no. She didn't do it. She didn't break the earth, but she was going to, she was going to and she has the power to do it yeah, so I think she definitely qualifies as a powerhouse, um, so yeah, I should have just taken gaia. Come on, man, we should have left guy off here, just because the absurdity of it, because she has all the powers. Yeah, it's not fair.
Speaker 2:What is Cole Obsidian's powers doing for her? Nothing, but why do?
Speaker 1:you need the arm. I don't know, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2:So I guess, yeah, we're going to go back to what you said. So is your go for a specialist?
Speaker 1:Yes, we'll switch this up a little bit. We'll do specialist slash, super soldier, we'll kind of make it. Even so, it's like you can take either here for this one, what I'm going to do, because I need a specialist, I need a specialist, right or a super soldier.
Speaker 1:I am going to take specialist or super soldier now. I'm just thinking about I need issues. I need people that are going to be like you're an issue. Yeah, on this one. Hmm, I'm going to take Ghost, oh, because her power set can wreak so much havoc. I feel like that's going to be pretty solid.
Speaker 2:What's going on out there? I don't know. I don't like it. Ghost is a great pick. I like that pick. I'm picking Captain America. I'm picking Sam.
Speaker 1:That's good, you get another.
Speaker 2:You get a bet off the bench, I get.
Speaker 1:Sam and Bucky. Sam and Bucky Yep back to the other Good dynamic.
Speaker 2:I'm reuniting a lot of characters that familiar with each other um, doctor strange, sam bucky, wanda all these characters know each other um, captain marvel, um, and I, just, I, just I just feel like sam sam is a good good. He was great in that infinity war fight and now he's now, he's got more tools in the tool belt. He's captain america now, um, so he's got the shield, he's got the new suit, new wings, um, just heaps of stuff. So I feel like, like I said, he was great in that Infinity War machine where Loki carried that Infinity War button.
Speaker 1:So I'm picking Sam, my god is the simplest, because I needed something to counter the Scarlet Witch and it's Loki.
Speaker 2:Oh shoot.
Speaker 1:I need the god of stories.
Speaker 2:That's a great pick. We're dealing with someone's mowing their lawn out there. If you hear the noise in the background, that's what that is. So you picked Loki huh.
Speaker 1:That was my biggest concern is I needed somebody, because I think everybody here. The only other concern that I have would be Doctor Strange on that level, but I feel like Loki can kind of control the both of them at that point.
Speaker 2:So I feel like at this point, in terms of those power level type characters, I think I'm down to just Eternals Kind of on that stretch, that's on that kind of plane God Monster.
Speaker 1:Well, it could be God monster. There's another one in there that I think you're over.
Speaker 2:There's two in there I think you're overlooking I was thinking about Man-Thing just to pair him up with Elsa. But I'm not going to do that and if I need someone, that I know Is Dane Whitman, busy. That I know is just going to, like I said, just like that level of character that is just all around well-rounded, maybe a little bit of a mental instability issue. But I'm picking Athena. That's good, Like she can. Just, I mean she's like the goddess of war, essentially Right, Like she's basically, you know, she was named for Athena the goddess of war.
Speaker 1:Oh, I messed up on a powerhouse pick. I messed up on the powerhouse pick, oh.
Speaker 2:I, I messed up on a powerhouse pick. I messed up on the powerhouse pick. Oh, I mean, you can still use them as your anchor being if you want. Yeah, I don't though.
Speaker 1:I just don't.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I'm picking Athena because, yeah, just because, again, like mistress of war, mastery of all weapons, yeah, again, somehow I ended up with this incredibly female heavy roster, but I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 1:You're multi. This is where the this is where the fun begins. You can't pick Anakin, but you're multiversal wildcard. This is going to be a fun one.
Speaker 2:It's your go, right you go.
Speaker 1:Cause I I started the last one.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't, oh, I'm, I'm, I'm picking Andrew Garfield, spider-man, spider-man. I'm bringing Spider-Man in and I'm bringing the Andrew Garfield. Am I picking with my heart more than my head? Probably, but he's the best, that's fair I don't know what else to say. Yeah, that's fair, he's just. I mean, he's got a lot going on for him.
Speaker 1:I'm going to take Magneto. Which Magneto? Eric Fassbender, eric Fassbender, michael Fassbender, eric Lencher. It's all the same. It's all the same in my head. No, I'm going to pick the X-Men 97, eric Lencher.
Speaker 2:Is he?
Speaker 1:still animated. It's great. We just talked about Sonic.
Speaker 2:Yes, he's still animated, nice it's great, we just talked about Sonic. Yes, he's still animated. Nice, he's Magnus. I'm thinking Magnus, please. I have wanted to say this to you many years. Shut up.
Speaker 1:Also that Magneto, probably familiar with Dr Doom yeah, yeah, yep, I definitely probably had conflict at some point. I like that when Dr Doom was like oh, genocide, yeah, yeah, dr doom's like I'm out. I'm actually out. Yeah, not great particularly great.
Speaker 2:Dr doom does not condone this. That's a great x-men 97 variant, magneto animated. I should have picked beast, oh dear, maybe I'll make him my anchor, being no you, you can.
Speaker 1:It has to be 616.
Speaker 2:Oh dear, oh dear, he can just be there. Beasts can just be there in every universe and the 97 Beasts is just there. Yeah, so, anchor being, you want to go first? Oh, go ahead. My anchor being eh, I already burned Spider. Spider-man can't do that. It's got to be someone like that's like, with some some gravitas, you know, like war machine. Why doesn't he have gravitas? He just doesn't boom. You looking for this. That's pretty cool. Man. My anchor, this is tough. Oh, I actually know who I'm gonna pick ant-man. No, can't be ant-man.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know who I'm picking, I'm picking america java's because you're anchor being yeah, that's fun deals in the multiverse already she's already kind of ah, do I want to put her and scarlet witch on the same team. It's scarlet which passed the.
Speaker 1:She passed the vendetta I mean, it makes for good see, we keep thinking about this as like studio heads Am. I just making Multiverse of Madness again. Yeah, this is Multiverse of Madness, and if you would have picked Man-Thing, it also would have somehow been Werewolf by Night. Which I think is the funniest way you could have went about this.
Speaker 2:Do I want to lock that in? Do I want to lock in America? Chavez, kinda, I think out of everyone that's left, I think that's she's the most anchor being. She already kind of was an anchor being. Mm-hmm, you know, sure, I just Look at this list I think, yeah, I think I want to lock that in. It's between her and Shuri, to be honest, mm-hmm, I was gonna Part of me wanted to also pick Shuri for this. Mm-hmm, I think I'm going to Mega Chavez. I think I'm going to stick with that.
Speaker 1:My anchor being will be the son of two worlds, and that'll be Shang-Chi.
Speaker 2:Nice and the Legend of the Ten Rings.
Speaker 1:I love that. Like I said, he's a child of two worlds. On top of that, which makes sense, I think Simu Liu, who you just met, which is awesome I did.
Speaker 2:We had a hostile meet and greet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you guys fought and, like I said, pray for Simu Liu. We squared up. Yeah, if Simu Liu and Rob walk into a bar pray for Simu Liu.
Speaker 2:If anyone's friends with me on Facebook or follows me on Instagram, that's my profile picture now Me and Simu Liu squaring off, that's awesome. Great guy, that's all types of awesome.
Speaker 1:He was super nice. I want you to talk about the Expo when we're done. Yeah, I will, but yeah, Shang-Chi like I said, son of two worlds, he's the master of Kung Fu. I think to an extent, he's going to grow as a character. We just need him to get the second movie, please, and thank you. Yes, yes, dude, and I think there's so much potential. Somebody made a good point too, like does he have the best?
Speaker 2:origin story. He has the best origin movie post post endgame it's shang chi. And who has a better story than brand the broken kidding? Come on, man, um no, I, I think I agree. I forget who I was telling about shang chi the other day, but I mentioned how it's like one of the best marvel movies post endgame.
Speaker 1:Full of like, full stop it just is so fun, that movie's so much fun.
Speaker 2:And I just want to see him do more stuff, do more karate. He's like him She-Hulk.
Speaker 1:Captain America, you should have been full send on those characters post -Endgame. It should have not even been a thought. But I digress because hopefully we'll make back up for it. Who's leading your team? Who's the manager?
Speaker 2:I mean, this is, if you know anything about this podcast, you know who I'm going to pick for this.
Speaker 1:Who are you picking?
Speaker 2:No, I'm picking Wong. Oh yeah, you beat me by one second. I'm picking Wong. I get the fun Again. Apparently I just drafted Multiverse of Madness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you kind of did.
Speaker 2:I got the Multiverse of Madness crew Wong, scarlet, witch, doctor Strange, america Chavez. They're all here, they're all getting along. Now I don't want to know. I don't want to know. But no, I feel like I'm very mystic, power heavy, and I feel like Wong is the one best equipped for this, yeah, for this mission To get these groups together. How is he recruiting the Punisher? I have no clue.
Speaker 1:They just walk into the same deli at the same time.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean. I feel like Wong could get to all these guys. You should have put Madison on the team. There's still time. There's still time.
Speaker 1:Anchorpeeing. How come she wasn't on the list? It should have been managed. I was trying to get funny, but also I was tired, so I should have gotten real funny and real weird with this. I should have put Trisha's bomb from Jessica Jones. She's actually the leader of this team, if she could market her like that.
Speaker 2:But I think of the funny enough. I think of the scene from Shang-Chi where he just walked into the bar out of the portal. I feel like he could do that with anybody and they'll just go with it. The Punisher might give him a couple looks. The Punisher would be like what the hell? But then Wong would eventually get on his level and be like I don't know. He would say some fun stuff to him. Can I see that machine gun? Wong would say, and then he'll be like come with me, frank Castle. So I'm picking Wong, I'm picking Blade, just kidding. And it's also like Wong. Like you said, the manager doesn't take part in the fight. I feel like that's where Wong wants to be, I don't want to know.
Speaker 2:He doesn't want to be on the action. He doesn't want to know. He got dragged to Wonder Gore with the Scarlet Witch. Yeah, he was mad, he did not want that, he didn't like that. He did not like that. He was like, oh yeah, and she just flung him up there and then she threw him off the mountain after the fact she did. You thought Wong was going to die in Multiverse of Madness.
Speaker 2:I did, I was full stop that he was cooked. And now he's leading the Avengers. He's leading my Avengers Also might be leading the actual.
Speaker 1:Avengers. That's what a lot of people think. That's what a lot of people think I'm going, nick fury, let's just let's see. Let's keep this real simple. Nope, just kidding, I'm gonna pick elsa fallsworth. No, you can't. Don't do this to be. You can't tell me that that that olivia coleman wasn't one of the best parts of secret invasion. She was. She was so much fun. She would just walk into the room and be overtly british and it was the greatest thing ever. It was pretty great. That was her role and she would just tell a british story and then nick fury would tell a louisiana story and then they would be like something's going on here.
Speaker 2:I can't believe you, you kicked fury out. He's like fury, even when he's out he's in. I just don't know who he is. He actually? He actually fury just came in and replaced fallsworth on your roster.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm keeping nick fury I will make the you know to keep Nick Fury. How about that? Even when he's out, he's in, he's back in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're keeping Nick Fury. Can I have them as a pair? Can I have co-managers?
Speaker 2:I might allow that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:The two of them together, I think would be fun, because Nick Fury's a Elsa is like the worst, but she's not a jerk, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:I think it's fun that we both ended up with someone named Elsa on our team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of Elsas running around in the MCU, but no Shang-Chi too, apparently, which is crazy. Not Elsa from Frozen, no, wow, she might be. See, here's the thing. If my team were to go against the Doom bots, I think my team is great. Yeah, if your team needed to go against God, emperor Doom, your team is great. You know what I mean Because I have the Punisher.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, right and I have Ghost. I wanted to pick US Agent, so I had a Captain America on my team. I'm just imagining a world. Brody murdered that guy.
Speaker 2:That sucks. I'm just imagining a world where, like doom has, like my team, dead to rights and then, like the punisher just stabs him in the back with like a knife or something like a, like a, like a magic infused knife that somebody handed him.
Speaker 1:That shit's like. Here he does his grunt before and just right in the back somehow the punisher ends up killing.
Speaker 2:Doom in my universe.
Speaker 1:Wearing the War Machine armor on top of that. This is the cinema they'd be talking about, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe that's what we do. Maybe we just give our versus Doom scenario for our team Go ahead. I mean, for some reason, like I said, for some weird reason, I feel like the Punisher kills Doom in my timeline. Yeah, I'm going to get mad Just because of his relentlessness, right, I think that's fun. He's bloodied, he's battered, but then Doom he's about to blast Captain Marvel to smithereens. It's like anime reaction frame Doom's close up on Doom and then his eyes just go wide and you just see the Punisher behind him with a spear or something.
Speaker 1:I messed up on my powerhouse reserve. It should have been Adam Warlock. That's where I misstepped. Dopey Rash, dopey Rash. Oh, I could have also picked Clea as well too, because Charlize Theron's in the MCU. If you know, she was going to be Captain Marvel. That's what a lot of people don't know, always what.
Speaker 2:Many people are saying this.
Speaker 1:Emily Blunt almost was Captain tomorrow. She was closer, though she was closer to actually, but I digress. I feel like my team is going to be fun because I feel, like in the first movie that they're all going to be like I think there's a. There's a if this makes sense. I think my team has a slight naivete for how much of a hero that they actually are, until they realize what a hero actually is, If that makes sense.
Speaker 2:I think that's a good track record for a lot.
Speaker 1:You got a very you got a very plucky team right, which I think is fun and I Right, which I think is fun, and again, that's Dude, don't just call us fuckers Right and funny enough, like that's why I was very deliberate, like the most important pick on my team was Star-Lord to be the leader of this team, like I feel like he's. Your team has a lot of heart and that's what I wanted. I wanted a team that's like we are relentless in this, like we've been through a Nito, moon Knight, jane.
Speaker 2:Foster had cancer, jane.
Speaker 1:Foster had cancer, daredevil almost died, monica's in another universe. Ghost watched her parents die in front of her. Loki, loki, I don't even need to say anything. Shang-chi, shang-chi, yep, you do have like the tragedy Macari's whole. Like she found out, she's an android, sentry's a drunk.
Speaker 2:Kind of kind of um thor, obviously right. Yeah, you do really have like the tragedy all stars. My team was like minor tragedies but like, aside from like scarlet witch and puncher, obviously right, but like everyone else on my team is relatively well adjusted, like yeah, my team is like captain marvel didn't really lose a lot, right, she didn't really lose anything.
Speaker 2:No, dr strange lost his hands, right, but but he got them back Right. Scarlet Witch I already talked about Elsa Bloodstone hasn't really lost anything. We don't know enough yet. Bucky I mean yeah, he's been tortured. Right Punisher obviously had the worst of it, daisy I mean, oh, she's been.
Speaker 1:She's been through it. Yeah, she's been through it, but nothing.
Speaker 2:Sam, I mean racism, Right. Yeah, that's pretty rough, Thayna. I mean she had like PTSD.
Speaker 1:And again she found out she was an android and she can't remember half the stuff.
Speaker 2:America Chavez. I mean, she got hunted by the Scarlet Witch. Her mothers are gone. Yep, andrew Garfield's Spider-Man, obviously. Obviously we've seen what he's gone through. Wong hasn't really lost anything that we know of. He lost that one woman in Multiverse of Madness that he kind of had a thing for which one? The one woman who, like, got vaporized trying to destroy the Darkhold. They didn't have a thing, they kind of had a thing. It's not like a Hammond Madison thing. Yeah, they have a thing. So, yeah, you have the tragedy, all-stars, and I have people that were a bit upended by life at some point, besides wanda and punisher. Right, wanda and punisher have been through the worst, right, but you, you have the tragedy all-stars.
Speaker 1:I think we're gonna use that to our, to our advantage. I like the two thors. I like the two thors plus century. I wish I would have added adam. Like I said in a physical like, if your team were, like your team were to come in and be like, you know, we'll magic them up and like now it's good, now all bets are off. Like. Step aside five's a ten in stock Right like now we're punching Like my team will out-punch anybody in the entire multi-match. Your team is gritty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my team is like these hands. Enough beatings for everybody. Right, he's Catholic. He's a really good lawyer.
Speaker 1:We both have lawyers on our team too. We do, we do, which is important.
Speaker 2:Our teams like mesh well together, like if they were ever in a cross paths, like our teams would have fun, right, except for, I mean, scarlet Witch probably wouldn't have that much fun. If Loki Maybe it would be interesting, it would be interesting. But like I feel, yeah, I feel like we picked like a lot of like same side of the like, different sides of the same coin. People Like I mean, yeah, like Captain Marvel, you know Doctor Strange, I like the Moon Knight, elsa Blood Zone, yeah, Combination.
Speaker 1:I was very deliberate with the Moon Knight one too, because I wanted to use the logic of the specialist to my advantage. Moon knight one too, because and I wanted to use the logic of the specialist to my advantage of like he is a, he is a guy that's like ex-military guy but like even as moon knight, when he's mark specter is like a specialist thinking I'm not thinking like a god, mystic, anything, like I'm thinking an actual like he still is, like he's still fighting very hand-to-hand heavy when he's mark specter, which I think is great you had you, you would have had to push me off a cliff.
Speaker 2:I almost picked M'Baku as my leader.
Speaker 1:I had a couple leaders in my head. M'baku was something I was. I also was circling Rocket as one of my leaders. I also was going to genuinely pick Rocket as my anchor, being Dang. That's deep, because if anybody can change, you're very Guardians-filled. I mean, obviously you know how. It's funny how much we're informed by what we like. So, obviously it was a point. I knew this morning that Makari was always going to be on my team. I was never budging and there's more powerful characters. I was never budging from her as my pick.
Speaker 2:I think Scarlet Witch was that person for me.
Speaker 2:As soon as you pitched this, I was just like yeah, like just, I think you're right, I think there's an element of like the characters that we enjoy the most from this MCU, like kind of like informed our decisions Because, like I think I've gone on record saying like Scarlet Witch is like one of my favorite characters in the MCU, like just her arc and just obviously you know, yeah, I mean even from like a, because we talked like, now we talk teams like, even from like a.
Speaker 1:I think this is a great piece of and kind of surmises like who we are too, because, like we were also thinking like as like a studio exec, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because we were like how's this person going to interact with this person? Well, the nerds, the nerds aren't going to like my team.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to like my team. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the incels are going to be upset. I have the Punisher though the Punisher can win some of the back, but does the Punisher outweigh hate for women? Lady, punisher, lady, oh, like Lady Deadpool, I'm surprised neither of us picked Wolverine for our. I'm just Andrew Garfield. Maybe, I should have done two multiversal wildcards, but I don't want the team to be like massive like I don't want this team to be like 50 people.
Speaker 1:I'm just andrew garfield build and that was my street level thing. Like I probably could have taken iron fist or what I was gonna do. Iron fist I was. Oh, I was gonna pick daisy for my, for my, yeah I sniped that. I sniped him a gun, and I think you knew too, because why would she be on there as the last person?
Speaker 2:I was just scrolling the name and then I was just like quick's kind of a powerhouse.
Speaker 1:Then I was like yeah, man, I love one day we got to talk about agents of shield and like, oh, we will. The definite, that's the definition of like, don't give up, like don't, don't give up on what you not only don't give up, but don't care about everything else, just get what you need to get after yeah, I mean I'm glad, I'm glad that you picked x-men 97 magneto and again to my point about my team being you're getting a hell of a speech.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you that, and that's what all my thought process was of, like who gives the best speech? And that's why I said, like er or michael fassbender, magneto 2 I could easily pick.
Speaker 2:Because, like I wanted, I still wanted that animosity in there too that's kind of why I picked sam, picked Sam, like I don't have any yappers on my team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do need a yapper, but is it Anthony Mackie or is it Sam Sam's?
Speaker 2:kind of a yapper, but like nothing crazy.
Speaker 1:I mean, you got to do better Senator. Yeah, he was, but they made him yapper at the end of that the only yapper I have on my team like I got daredevil's kind of a yapper?
Speaker 2:yeah, he does. He do be talking a lot.
Speaker 1:He was like screaming, like just punch fists in the face and then season four love and thunder thor is kind of a yapper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, shang chi a bit of a yapper. Wow, yeah, I don't really have. Yeah, that's why I think that it's subconsciously why I kind of picked Sam. Everyone else on my team, none of these people. She-hulk's kind of a yapper, but Captain Marvel definitely not a yapper. Straight business. Doctor Strange is a bit of a yapper. Sure, sure, carl.
Speaker 1:He was just talking through the whole thing. Let the multiverse talk, god.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was yapping to the Illuminati big time, but that's because he's got that air of superiority. He comes from that school of yapping, whereas Sam is like a shit talker. Yeah, sure, that's fun Punisher, he just yells, he doesn't yap. Bucky definitely not a yapper, elsa's definitely not a yapper, dana is just hands. So yeah, spider-man, I have Andrew Garfield. Andrew garfield spider-man is is deaf, him, and between him and sam, we're gonna, they're, they're gonna be yapping up a storm. He's gonna be making terminator quips like this is gonna, he's gonna be, he's gonna be talking a lot. Andrew garfield spider-man will be, will indeed be, talking a lot multiversal perspective.
Speaker 1:I think is. I think is great, all right. Um, you want to add one more pick? That should be fun. I have an idea. Okay, you get one villain to put on this team.
Speaker 2:Ooh, any villain, any villain.
Speaker 1:But like same rules, apply Same rules Like they have to be alive.
Speaker 2:They have to be alive. Okay, same villain. Do you have one? Because I don't have one yet yet.
Speaker 1:One villain that has to be alive.
Speaker 2:This is tough because a lot of them are dead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of them are dead, but this is where I can start to dip into different parts of the universe a little bit. Um, ooh, this is this gets super, super, super, super fun. One villain, ooh. You know who I would have picked? I would have picked Gravik if I could have, but he's gone because he got a hand through his chest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, marvel has a villain killing problem, so this is tough. I heard of all of them. Man Bastion would have been fun if he was in the 616. Bastion would have been a fun one too. Who else do I got From a villain perspective from the entire MCU? I mean I can't pick Ross because I feel like he's too. He's not like a straight-up bad guy. He's done bad things but he's not the bad guy. Oh wow, that's a fun one.
Speaker 2:I'm glad I said it now. I just don't have an answer.
Speaker 1:I don't really have an answer either because, like, like I said, like a lot of them die wow, um, I I was thinking icarus to add to the team of like reshape icarus, because the conceit is like when they join your team, it would be like he flew into the sun. He did. It's almost like he's Icarus.
Speaker 2:Wow, he flew into the sun at the end.
Speaker 1:That was crazy man. I wish Apocalypse was in the MCU now. Doctor Doom.
Speaker 2:No, you can't do that, kang what.
Speaker 1:What an insane pick to have. He's not technically dead. I guess he's not technically dead. There's a bunch of them around. That would be crazy, that would be nuts. What a return. It's the return.
Speaker 2:Imagine he comes out on your side. That would be wild.
Speaker 1:Nah.
Speaker 2:Namor doesn't count. I was thinking Namor, but he doesn't count. Who From She-Hulk?
Speaker 1:Come on, man Sorry Hmm.
Speaker 2:I'm going for this. It's just tough, because do we have to stick to the dead thing? Because they're all dead? No, they're not all dead.
Speaker 1:They're either dead or reformed, can't say Agatha Harkness, because I think a conceit that we have to follow is like I think I can see that we have to follow. It's like you're getting your show so like you shouldn't count.
Speaker 2:I mean based on what Catherine Han said at the panel that I was at. She said that she's still pretty villainous, interesting.
Speaker 1:I'm whoo, that dude. This is really tough Because everybody I'm literally screwing everybody is dead. Ha, this is wild. Am I going to stick with man? Do I do Vulture?
Speaker 2:I know who I'm picking for mine.
Speaker 1:Oh, never mind. Never mind, I'm picking Kingpin. Speaking of yappers, oh yeah, him and Magneto on the same team. You're going to put him and Daredevil on the same team. They're teaming up in the show. That's the rumor, I guess. Shield, but like evil shield.
Speaker 2:Hydra, that's like a concept. No, you can't do Hydra, they're Nazis. Oh yeah, my bad. Can I pick the Red Skull Speaking of Nazis?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, I can't pick the Nazi, but I'm gonna pick King Nazi. He's a reformed Nazi. No, he's not. You don't know that. No, he's different.
Speaker 2:Yes we do. What are you talking about? I'm picking for mine, and it's a dangerous pick. Who is it? It's Ultron.
Speaker 1:Oh, lord. Speaking of yappers, lord, have mercy. That's actually the Him and Doom would have a yap off they would. I wish Shang-Chi's dad was still alive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would've been. I mean Thanos would've been the obvious pick, Right.
Speaker 1:Ultron is really good, though. Loki man, that's good. The High Evolution man, that's good. The high evolutionary is dead. Right, he got his face ripped off. But there was that deleted scene where he got back to nowhere. But he got his face ripped off.
Speaker 2:That doesn't mean anything neither one of us pick gambit for our multiversal person I know I was thinking about it.
Speaker 1:That's what I was saying. Maybe I should have done two for the multiversal pick. Oh, about a name for myself?
Speaker 2:yeah should I just add the multiversal pick? Ooh about a name for Mazda.
Speaker 1:Should I just add another multiversal pick, because I feel like one's not enough. Yeah, you're getting two multiversal picks, go ahead. So we said your villain you're picking is Ultron, villain is Ultron.
Speaker 2:I also get like, because obviously it's Robert Downey Jr in Doom, so we get the payoff of him fighting Ultron again. That's good Suit of armor around the world, eh.
Speaker 1:Wow, I can't believe this. All right, so the villain you're picking Ultron. Oh, that's so good. I think I'm going to stick with my. What did I just say? That wasn't Kingpin. Yeah, you said Kingpin or Vulture was my other option. V or Vulture was my other option, vulture. Yeah, I'm going to stick with Vulture. What Over Kingpin? Because, like, what can Kingpin do, like in a face against?
Speaker 2:Doctor Doom, what is he doing? Yo, he might figure it out. He's shipped. You embarrass me. He's a money. You embarrass me in front of Vanessa.
Speaker 1:He just starts boxing Doom hand to hand. I should have picked Vanessa. You embarrassed me in front of Daredevil and he can't even see. No, he can't. Alright, who's your other multiverse to pick? I actually have one that actually makes sense that's gonna really round my team out.
Speaker 2:I'm picking.
Speaker 1:Daredevil that's fine, that's solid, it's not gonna outdo my pick, but it's good.
Speaker 2:I get him and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man, my yapping is covered.
Speaker 1:A project that genuinely could actually happen in the Right, my yapping is covered now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have sufficiently yapped. Him and She-Hulk can both break the fourth wall.
Speaker 1:The proposal, the proposal, Like that'll be fun. The proposal this guy's kind of doing it for me.
Speaker 2:It's like the three of them together would just be She-Hulk and Deadpool both breaking the fourth wall. Andrew Garfield not knowing what's happening. He's like what? The? I just thought he was going to be black.
Speaker 1:Oh, I should have done that for Alice Frick. God damn it. I'm going to pick Silver Surfer. Whoa, yeah, he exploded. The planet destroyer Galactus, which is a feat in itself. If you're nothing without the board, then you shouldn't have it. I mean, he is nothing without the board. That was the whole plot point of the movie. He was nothing without the board. He was just the backstory guy without the board.
Speaker 2:I should have picked Miles Morales, but I picked Deadpool instead.
Speaker 1:Oh my, God, I didn't even think to even dip down that route.
Speaker 2:You already picked an animated guy.
Speaker 1:Can't I just say Magneto as a whole, multiple Magnetos, all the Magnetos, all the Magnetos.
Speaker 2:No, I think X-Men 97 and Magneto is the best Magneto ever.
Speaker 1:And the most powerful. I mean he shut the world down.
Speaker 2:A he's animated, which is just hilarious.
Speaker 1:B best hair. Yeah, that guy's. Well, maybe I should think about an actor that should play him. No, no, no, it's an animated Magneto. Well, that's, we're still holding the theory. We're still holding the theory, right, that what's it called, that Beast from the Marvels is. That's the In the present day. Oh dear, oh dear, monica Rambeau, is this your daughter, maria Rambeau, from a different universe? Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Speaker 2:That's a great head of hair on that guy. What actor would play him?
Speaker 1:Someone with a great head of hair, stephen Lang, but put a wig on him.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. I don't know who would play x-men 97 magneto. That is a tough one trying to think of someone with like long, luscious, gray hair. Henry cavill nope from the witcher.
Speaker 1:From the witcher, specifically liam hemsworth from the witcher enzo washington. Oh uh, jeremy irons, I didn't know that. Yeah, oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:Yep, oh yeah, like ozimandias kind of.
Speaker 1:Either like because I'm looking Viggo Mortensen would be fun. Oh yes, some people said an older Daniel Craig would be interesting. He's too stocky, I think so too.
Speaker 2:It's just dumb.
Speaker 1:No, I do like. I really do like the. I'm going to stick with the. What's it called? What I just said, jeremy Irons playing Cause he would. The yapping would be. That was fun. That was fun. I had a lot of fun with that. That was great. These teams are. This crew is good. Michael Mann's going to. Who's directing this movie for you?
Speaker 2:Uh, Ryan Coogler.
Speaker 1:That's fun, that's good.
Speaker 2:James gunn yeah, yeah, because if I'm gonna have a, a team like this. Um, I guess we can talk about some notable undrafteds. Um the hulk didn't get drafted. Hulk's not hulk didn't get drafted. Black panther sure he did not get drafted. Um, war machine did not get drafted. I don't know why I said that. Um, uh, rocket, obviously you said yeah no hawkeye.
Speaker 1:Either that's fine ant-man, or wasp, that's also fine.
Speaker 2:Like I don't, I don't, like I guess shuri shuri. I feel kind of bad leaving off yeah, namor is an interest is hulk, I feel kind of bad leaving off a lot, lot of these other ones, though I don't. I feel like we did a pretty nice job of getting like.
Speaker 1:I'm still mad about, and also I could have picked Agatha Harkness too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, agatha's a pretty big omission Blade. I think being omitted is kind of rough you know what I was thinking about too.
Speaker 1:I was genuinely thinking about getting Ms Marvel as my anchor being too.
Speaker 2:I thought that's what you were going to pick. To be honest, that would have been a solid one. I just feel like we did a pretty nice job of I should have put a funny guy as one of the team members. I think Black Panther, I think Shuri and probably Hulk are probably the two biggest omissions, especially from the genius category. I was thinking about Cherry as my genius pick.
Speaker 1:I just needed power, because who did you pick Doctor Strange? I was like, ah shoot, I need a tank if we're going to do this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me getting Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch is kind of a coup.
Speaker 1:But like I said on the other side of the cord, me getting two Thors is nuts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, good stuff. You just gotta worry about them bickering, but they'll be fine, or?
Speaker 1:the other thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that too. I mean I have that. I'm worried about that. Up and down the list here. I mean I don't know what She-Hulk's gonna do. Oh yeah, she sees.
Speaker 1:Punisher. This guy's kinda doing it for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, punisher, I mean Bucky.
Speaker 1:I mean Bucky, uh, punisher-bucky dynamic is interesting. Yeah, right, because that's the thing about the Punisher.
Speaker 2:They're both killers.
Speaker 1:But like, if Punisher doesn't like you, you're cooked Like. You know what I mean. Like what if he just doesn't like Bucky? Like Bucky's the kind of guy that can be like alright, also like Sam's, kind of likeica. You got to deal with the punisher like I feel like I said, like I feel like my team like would mesh after, like after like a loss. They would mesh because they they'd have like a rallying cry and they have so many contention points to get a rallying cry from yeah, I feel like ultimately that's why I picked captain marvel, because I feel like she can kind of just keep everyone in line.
Speaker 2:At the end of the day she'll just supernova and everyone will be like, alright, I feel like Punisher would respect Captain Marvel, military, both ex-military.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it. Oh well, that's the point for Sam too. That's a good point for Sam.
Speaker 2:I do have a lot of ex-military on here.
Speaker 1:That's a good thing. They might all be like hey look, look y'all, we all did the military thing. Who's your manager? That's why you should have picked Thunderbolt.
Speaker 2:Ross for your manager. No, no, no. All military guys, it's fine, wong can handle it, but he's going to leave. Yeah, that's why he's my manager. Let the inmates run the prison. He's going to get there, set everyone up and then he's gonna be like see you later, is he Steve Kerr?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he's a former player manager. He is Steve Kerr.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see you later. I'm out of here. God, that's fun, Fun teams. Yeah, I really like this. This was a lot of fun. Yeah, so that's. I guess that's it right. That is it. I guess I can talk about Toronto a little bit, yeah, yeah, talk to us about Toronto.
Speaker 1:It was a good time, man.
Speaker 2:It was a really good time. I met some folks. I met Simu Liu, I met Cameron Moynihan. Like I said, I met Giancarlo Esposito. That was a good time, you know, and it's just you know.
Speaker 2:Obviously, bryce Dallas Howard, bryce Dallas Howard, me and Bryce Dallas Howard had a nice couple five-minute chat about Star Wars. Um, it was that was fun. Um, because I was kind of like the angle that I came at her with. I was like, hey, I actually had her sign a, uh, like a mandalorian picture. Um, and she wrote brextel's how to direct her, which I was like you know, that's kind of how like I came at her. I was like I really enjoy your directorial work. Um, yeah, and that was cool.
Speaker 2:Um, obviously the panels, like I get a lot of like a lot of you know people obviously love like meeting people. But cool, um, obviously the panels, like I get a lot of like a lot of you know people obviously love like meeting people. But, like I love going to the panels and listening to listen to these people talk about their, their acting experiences and stuff like that. Dolph Lundgren's panel was really great. Um, dolph Lundgren was there, arizona. Dolph Lundgren talking about just being an action star in the 80s and what that was like. Really really interesting to hear them all speak about you, because people get up there and they ask, oh, what was your favorite project? And people always say the next one is pretty much across the board what they all said, which was kind of cool.
Speaker 1:It's tough. They're trained, they know what they're doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Marina Baccarin and Ben McKenzie both did a panel One of the interesting things about that. Two interesting things came out of that panel. Marina Baccarin said that she A would love to play Catwoman, which I could absolutely see, and B she said she wants to do more with Marvel and said she's dying to do Vanessa as copycat. And then Ben McKenzie said he wants to play Jim Gordon again. He said he wants to revisit that character further along and he said he feels like he's got enough time in his life that even if that type of thing happened 20 years from now, he could still play Ben Gordon.
Speaker 2:He could still play Ben. Uh, ben Gordon, he can still play. He can still play Jim Gordon. So I thought that was interesting, that I I guess I didn't expect him to have as much fondness for Gotham as as he ended up having in the panel Like it really sounded like he was really, really fond of that show and filming that show. Um, I mean, they met each other on the Gotham set. Wait, what is when they got married? Wait, they're married. Holy, did you not know that? No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was about to say yeah, so many as my woman anyway but no, it was a really good time.
Speaker 2:Obviously, just seeing all the people there you know the amount of effort that goes into like the cosplaying stuff. I'm always mesmerized by. Like people's devotion to, to whatever their fandom is is like awesome. Like I. Like I'm obviously a fan of stuff, but like that's not really like my bag, like I don't have the the effort to to put into like a costume, like that, but like just seeing the creativity of people is just incredible. Um, and just getting a bunch of bunch of nerds together and doing nerdy stuff Fun times.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Voice acting, obviously, is well represented there. Comics right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had comic writers and artists. One of the people voice acting-wise that I was floored had as much of a following and a fandom as Neil Newbon who voiced Astarion in Baldur's Gate 3. That guy's line for four days just would not go away. That's awesome. That's amazing. He got a solo panel in the main theater there which was like who got main theater panels?
Speaker 2:Dolph Lundgren, ben McKenzie and Miranda Baccarin, marissa Tomei got main hall panels and Neil Newbon who's really just coming to his own as a voice actor and I think that was one of the longer lines to wait to get into was his panel, which was awesome for him. It was insane the amount of kind of just. And he talked about his Game Awards. Performer of the Year Award that he said he was flabbergasted by when he won it. Performer of the year award that he said he was flabbergasted by when he won it. He said he thought he thought truthfully that either Ben Starr from Final Fantasy 16 or Yuri Lowenthal would win performance of the year. So he said when it was him, when it was announced that it was him, he said it was like the biggest honor of his life and he said it's the only time in his life he'll ever get to beat out Idris Elba for an acting award, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 2:That's fun. Hey, it was a great time. It's one of those things that I've done it two years in a row now and I'm already looking forward to going back next year Amazing.
Speaker 1:Good stuff. That's it, y'all. Yeah, we formed the Avengers. You're welcome, marvel. We formed the Avengers.
Speaker 2:I think our Avengers teams are more fun. They're way more fun.
Speaker 1:You got quaked man, I did that one hurt because I put her there just for me to take her. I could have sniped you twice and done Daredevil sense, but that was a contract, that's contractual. I had to put him on my team.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, it's a good pick. He'll throw some hands with some Doom Bots. Yeah, yeah, he'll do some flips.
Speaker 1:He'll do a lot of flips, yeah, which one am I getting? Am I getting She-Hulk or Netflix Daredevil? That's the question, because I kind of need She-Hulk Daredevil at that point.
Speaker 2:I guess we'll see what happens with Born Again, but I'm imagining you're going to get a hybrid Right in the middle. You're going to get a hybrid, not quite as comic book cartoony as the She-Hulk version, but a little more elevated than the Netflix version. Is where I think the Born Again version is going to end up. Right, that's it, man. Read the socials. Yeah, man, you can follow us on Twitter at ProjectINF underscore pod. We also have our own Twitter, personal Twitter accounts which are linked with every episode. You can follow us on Facebook. You can follow us on YouTube at the Project Infinite Podcast. All the podcast episodes go up on YouTube the minute they hit all the other podcast platforms. You know it's just a YouTube video, but it's just our logo and then the video plays. So, yeah, and you can follow us on Instagram At the Project Infinite Pod. And next week is more fun yeah, labor Day weekend next week, I don't know, we'll think of something. Yeah, we thought of something this week. We did think of something. You thought of something this week.
Speaker 1:I stole something from this right. It's the screen crush.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we'll figure something out for next week, I'm sure. Maybe I don't know. Let's see, it's the 3rd 10th. Eh, we could do Maybe not next week, but we can do a WandaVision thing in the next couple weeks.
Speaker 1:To get ready for Agatha, especially since now it's a trilogy. Yeah, we never properly reviewed that. We started Agatha. Yeah, maybe we just, especially since now it's a trilogy. Yeah, we never properly reviewed that. No, yeah, we started after.
Speaker 2:WandaVision. Yeah, our first episode was, our first review was the Suicide Squad.
Speaker 1:Right, the Suicide Squad. Yeah, sorry, david Ayer.
Speaker 2:That was our first proper review. So, yeah, maybe we'll. Maybe not next week, apparently, like I said, we now know it's a trilogy, right? So, um, wandavision will obviously be prescient in Agatha. Um, so, yeah, yeah, because it was all along Agatha, all along man, um, but that's it, um, from me, from the wow. Yeah, from the Kevin Foggy of the podcast. Yeah, that was very producer-esque of me. This guy put together a topic, he put together rules, put together a universe for us to play in and I had a lot of fun with this.
Speaker 1:And yeah, the goal is we're going to remix this for DC, probably as the preview for Superman in July of next year, which one of us gets Oliver Queen is the question. Yeah, we already started kicking around some ideas. One of the ideas is that, instead of this needing to be 616, it's kind of the reverse, where nope, don't do it when your team has to be from, like the, I mean since the 40s.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be a DC episode without a convoluted multiverse. A crisis is imminent. Right, a crisis is imminent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a crisis is imminent, Imminent, imminent, imminent.
Speaker 2:Imminent there it is. Whatever?
Speaker 1:Eminem was rapping about.
Speaker 2:All right, guys. Yeah, that's it, and we'll see you next week for something. Until then, goodbye Peace.
